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Post by sandsla on Jun 15, 2011 1:08:06 GMT -5
I went looking to see and only found the crazy sugars commenting that Al's kids were not welcome because it was a "religious" ceremony. *BARF* Charlene's family should just sit on it and rotate at this point. Do they mean that it will be next Tuesday, the announcement, maybe? BTW, I saw an article on another forum a bout how comments on forums are skewed by Public Relations people (and even family members). They spend 'years' on forums trying to make their presence seem real but they are really paid members. A few places (Amazon.com and some other travel companies) are trying to weed them out but not having a lot of luck because they are so good at disguising themselves. They should hire MyAdia. Thank you very much! That is what I have been saying for years! Except I don't believe they are good at disguising themselves. Stupid people don't have the ability to see how stupid they are! I think they couldn't be more obvious! Charlene from her first post made herself and her agenda glaringly obvious. Her first post was meant to sell her and to convince SOMEONE how popular Charlene was, and how everyone in the U.S, had just fell in love with Charlene at the Red Cross ball and how they all wanted Albert to marry her! ::)The media loved her! The six year old mentality threw me off ( I thought it must be a misguided young niece of Charlene's at first)--I never believed Charlene could be that juvenile or ignorant, or anyone over the age of nine . Charlene's problem with being a compulsive liar also was evident, as well as that she was part of a business deal--Charlene made that clear in her post. Watching herself try to sell herself as an American was hilarious! ;D Charlene's posts were indeed meant to influence someone particular that she knew read the forums, someone that she thought had the ability to influence Albert, but them some of he tactics she used were obviously meant for Albert himself, hence her resorting to "emotional" nasty tactics--All you have to do is read her posts to see she couldn't care less about what anyone cares about her on the forums just as long as it didn't influence Albert's decision yo marry her, and it actually must of for awhile, or Esther would not have come on our forum begging us to just let Charlene have her fairy tell wedding that she was OWED--she even said how they would try to rewrite Charlene's history--she even confirmed the cash payments Charlene was getting paid, but she was sure Albert's money could make it all go away....if we would just ease up an let her manipulate Albert in to marrying her--obviously we were a thorn in her side. Anyway, I'm glad someone else has pointed out how obvious it is to everyone that they are using these forums as their personal pr machine, and obviously some people seem complicit and playing along--the ridiculous bias and over the top posts should embarrassed them, but nothing seems to!
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Post by sandsla on Jun 15, 2011 1:24:52 GMT -5
Ditto, Emmeline! Also, even though the article is in a SA paper, would it have killed her and the paper to mention something about the Monegasques who are paying for this whole charade? Yes! Also, i think it's funny that a SA newspaper mention this. It makes think that Charlene is not even liked in her native SA. I have a couple of SA friends they didn't even know who she was and one use to be a diver. If this girl was so popular there she wouldn't be so anxious to escape it--Chelsy didn't? I think only now is she studying abroad.
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Post by mrszinck on Jun 15, 2011 2:06:47 GMT -5
Many people do not know who she is. Only Albert and his sisters are well-known.
(If I don't come on the forum I also do not know who she is. And even then I doubt with all her metamorphosis).
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Post by paca on Jun 15, 2011 4:45:23 GMT -5
I told you his official visit were to make sure that people come to the wedding And such important heads of state like the Libanese, Ireland (bankrupt, so they need the free food to take home) etc. Sweden is sending the junior league, so of course reporters will have plenty to comment on the absence of the seniors Bocelli and Tozzi are paid guests as we know from Hartmann that Bocelli will sing at the eagles concert and Tozzi probably too. The founder of the Cirque du soleil will bethere too, or basically just everyone who has recently been pictured with one of them www.monacomatin.mc/article/monaco/monaco-livre-les-premiers-noms-des-invites-au-mariage
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Post by suite583 on Jun 15, 2011 7:55:24 GMT -5
I told you his official visit were to make sure that people come to the wedding And such important heads of state like the Libanese, Ireland (bankrupt, so they need the free food to take home) etc. Sweden is sending the junior league, so of course reporters will have plenty to comment on the absence of the seniors Bocelli and Tozzi are paid guests as we know from Hartmann that Bocelli will sing at the eagles concert and Tozzi probably too. The founder of the Cirque du soleil will bethere too, or basically just everyone who has recently been pictured with one of them www.monacomatin.mc/article/monaco/monaco-livre-les-premiers-noms-des-invites-au-mariage Sweden is sending the whole family, for they can stay in their house in Saint-Tropez.
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Post by MyAdia on Jun 15, 2011 8:40:31 GMT -5
Sweden is sending the whole family, for they can stay in their house in Saint-Tropez. I know it was reported before that Sweden is sending the entire family, including the king and queen, but the article that Paca posted doesn't say this. Why would Monaco brag about Victoria, Daniel, Madeleine and Carl Philip coming if the King and Queen of Sweden is coming also? I think Albert is only getting junior leagues because this is what the other royals think of him. from the article - here are the guests that they are boasting with such comment: With the royal wedding, Monaco will be hosting the most "world leaders "
Letizia and Felipe of Spain Victoria of Sweden, Daniel, Carl Philip and Madeleine Karl Lagerfeld Heads of State of Lebanon, Ireland and Estonia Singers Andrea Bocelli and Umberto Tozzi Guy Laliberte (founder of Cirque du Soleil) Ines de la Fressange (model and fashion designer) Jacques Rogge (President of the IOC) Jean Todt (President of the International Automobile Federation - FIA)
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Post by paca on Jun 15, 2011 8:48:35 GMT -5
INes de la Fressange and KL are Caros guests, Tozzi and Bocelli are paid guests. I think that says it all about how excited everyone is to go there. Senior Royals came to Rainiers funeral. They didn't say who is coming for GB, just who is not coming. MC matin keeps going on about Kate and WIll not coming as if they really did expect them to come and that it is a real disappointment that they don't. I wonder if some of the PR were hoping for them to come to bring some attention to the wedding. I bet they are currently discussing whether inviting Pippa would be a good idea, even at the risk that UK media would only report on her and her outfit and nothing on MC. But seeing how desperate they are for attention, I would not be surprised a bit.
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Post by suite583 on Jun 15, 2011 8:56:37 GMT -5
What would be so special for the Swedish Royal House being fully represented?
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Post by paca on Jun 15, 2011 9:06:02 GMT -5
It's a difference in rank if you have the King and the Queen instead of the crown prince/princess of a country or another minor ranked member. If the entire family shows, it is underlining the attachment of the families, whereas when only one rep is sent, it is clear that it is a have to show thing. WHen there are blood relations between the families, you tend to see the Royals in full force. With the swede I think it's more out of gratitude. The king and queen were in Monaco when the Madeleine drama unfolded. Hence Madeleine is coming. The brother is her company. Meantime the king and queen probably prefer to keep a low profile. Attending a wedding would draw too much attention to their own marriage. Hence the possible change of plans. I still love to know whom the Brits are sending. I suspect if Royal then Edward and Sophie as they are assigned to minors like Monaco. Could be the Philips though as well. They are young and do not have too many duties.
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Post by MyAdia on Jun 15, 2011 11:10:33 GMT -5
Could it be there really is a Monaco journalist with common sense or integrity or just not afraid to tell the truth about even little things like the guest list. This journalist states the same reason why i think the gusts list wasn't reveal until so late. Recall the media attention given to Bono of U2 and declining the Swiss President - or just the media attention given to the fact that Sarkozy hasd ignored the invitation and just decided to come recently. The palace knows Albert is seen as second-rate and most people of substance and integrity aren't rushing to be seen at this wedding. Notice that they are calling the 900 people sitting in the palace courtyard - guests. So, who are the 3500 who will be sitting in the street palace square - Charlene's flunkies rent-a-crowd? From the Monaco Telecom:
Royal wedding: the names of guests began to filter! June 15, 2011 By B. Ulrich
Not easy for the Palace to communicate on the subject of princely wedding guests. If the wait verging on hysteria in the tabloids,the risk to launch into the wild the name of a prominent figure who eventually retract is real and could be damaging to the image of the feast is being prepared. But within 15 days of the ceremony, some guests have been confirmed to our colleagues in Monaco-Matin.
The list begins with an absence already known, that of Prince William and his brand new wife Kate, a trip to Canada. The princes and princesses heirs of Spain and Sweden will present them well. Heads of states? We can already count on those of Ireland, Estonia and Lebanon, three countries visited by the Sovereign this year. Peole side, Italy is already represented by the singers Andrea Bocelli and Umberto Tozzi.Other personalities, come from well-known fashion and in the Principality: Ines de la Fressange not to mention the inevitable Karl Lagerfeld, a time referred to as a commentator for the event to TF1, a rumor quickly denied by the firm, intimate princely family. The guest list could not forget the sports world: the Prince has invited to his wedding "president", the International Olympic Committee Jacques Rogge, institution member. Other sports brand boss Jean Todt, the FIA president. Finally, the list will include some 900 guests, we expect that the television commentators as countertop material will bavasser for hours!
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Post by scout on Jun 15, 2011 11:32:18 GMT -5
As I said before, Albert was deluded to insist that everyone wanted to attend his wedding and there were so many clamoring to see the wedding that he could not fit them all into the cathedral. This delusion alone and his continued belief in it in the face of truth is grounds for a competency hearing.
Whoever pushed to pr this tragedy as the royal wedding of the century should be fired today and forced to repay all their salary. Now when reality happens, as it will on July 2nd and 3rd, Albert will be seen as more delusional than Mad King Leopold of Bavaria. Of course, it will only be by the few bored people who are following this soap opera.
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Post by paca on Jun 15, 2011 11:37:10 GMT -5
I think a lot of official guests are watching the press and what is reported. You do not want to be associated to an event that might not be viewed as favourable to your image. Politicians don't come if it isn't good for them to be seen. You will probably not see any Greek politician or Portuguese with what is going on in their countries. I'm not sure if it is a good idea for the Spanish crown prince to come, considering the problems of Spain. They might get some bad press for it,but then again they are not politicians so might get a pass. And Monaco is paying. Sarkozy will decide by the moment. He can't be seen at a wedding of a head of state who does not allow freedom of press, while Gaddafi and Assad are slaughtering their people. Same goes for other political VIPS. This whole wedding in the face of what is going on in the world will leave a lot of people with a bad taste. German TV will surely find itself criticized severely for broadcasting and wasting money on Monaco PR.
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Post by scout on Jun 15, 2011 11:43:37 GMT -5
^ Paca, you make very valid points summarizing the logic of why these people will not attend. And all these points were known on June 24, 2010, one day after the engagement was announced. (Except for the Libya situation, but we did know that Albert doesn't believe in freedom of the press.)
I figure the Prince and Princess of Spain are coming because Albert is the godson of Felipe's great-grandmother, Victoria Eugenie and due to past ties with Monaco, i.e. Albert I. Again, Albert is receiving respect that his ancestors earned.
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Post by refia on Jun 15, 2011 13:22:04 GMT -5
The whole Belgian bunch is coming. I just read it at one other forum. But is there an official commitment?
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Post by mrszinck on Jun 16, 2011 1:59:55 GMT -5
No, but they have a villa in Grasseā¦
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Post by paca on Jun 16, 2011 3:37:29 GMT -5
Belgium has enough scandles in their country, they don't have a reputation to lose. Besides generally a wedding is considered good news PR wise, so they might want to connect themselves with some positive headlines. After all they haven't had a government for over a year now. That is a sad world record.
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Post by mrszinck on Jun 16, 2011 4:27:50 GMT -5
For the Belgium people it will never be 'positive headlines'. It will trigger even more the 'sad' situation. The BRF must stay in Belgium. It is not the time to be associate with diamonds and a waste of money.
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Post by paca on Jun 16, 2011 4:41:12 GMT -5
LOL but Royals have the tendency of partying while they still can. Belgium might not have a king for very much longer either. The reason for them to have on in the first place was to unify the country and that is obviously not what he is capable of. must be in the name
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Post by smt on Jun 16, 2011 7:23:10 GMT -5
According to the Danish Crown Prince's website, Frederik and Mary will be attending the religious wedding.
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Post by paca on Jun 16, 2011 8:25:14 GMT -5
fred is IOC member right?
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