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Post by grimnir on May 13, 2011 11:29:08 GMT -5
I think we're having too many topics on media here, it's starting to get confusing. These are possibly pics from the vsd article (or not of course): Note the happy family snapshots: Ernst, Nicole, the brothel palace, the non-photoshopped photoshopped engagement pic. The Germans, minus Bunte, seem to have discovered that negative press is better than positive press. Lagerfeld - under a heading of Albert is too fat - is saying that Albert should lose weight. Something about having send him several dior suits but Albert not fitting into a single one of them. Another mag was wondering why It's parents were never around (dagerous topic, it might give people the wrong ideas) at events or why they were never seen, even though they have been living in the palace for the past 2 months. Grace's parents were at the engagement announcement, but with the current announcement: nothing. Wonder why the mother of the bride to hell is suddenly called by her maiden name? Didn't they marry or something? And yet another mag is going on in length about the wedding: Love drama, is the wedding in danger? Which is simply: arriving after the qeen, grumpy faces at the Wilkat wedding, serious gesticulation in the bus to the abby (with grumpy faces). Observers even suspected an argument. It's face darkened even more when she saw the dress: a Grace Kelly look-alike which was what she had in mind and now Kate has stolen "her" dress. Meet Mr. and Mrs. Grumpy, the lovely princely pair of Monaco. What a wonderful image they are projecting, really a radiating advertisement for Monaco.
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Post by margarita on May 13, 2011 11:41:04 GMT -5
Thanks Grimnir! Yes, the German media (-Bunte) turn against CW.
By end of 2010 I have posted on RD some articles not at all praising CW. In January 2011 we had some "What happened to CW's face" "Is she too instable as personality for her future role/ surgery addicton?"articles. I posted them on RD but ;D still have them and can post here.
And today I have bought four magazines with media turning against CW. I have never bought four tabloids at one day. NEVER. Last year only ONE and only because I needed the pics to post them for us. BUT today FOUR- this is record.
It's like we suggested: After Will & Kates real wedding media turn against the PR faux tale.
CW will only loose. And they only start to get started...
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Post by margarita on May 13, 2011 11:44:24 GMT -5
ps: I have bought these four magazines to post the pics here for us and everyone lurking in.
Will try to post them tomorrow. Wait and see! So far media happened to be a bit suspicious about the wedding (loke: she looks so sad but will surely be a happy bride). But now they question the wedding to take place more and more.
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Post by emmeline on May 13, 2011 11:45:52 GMT -5
^Yep! And if we think about it, it's logic: the press already have their perfect royal couple. Now they need a crappy one. The best that can fill that role: FatAl and Conlene Bitchstock!
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Post by MyAdia on May 13, 2011 11:46:38 GMT -5
I think we're having too many topics on media here, it's starting to get confusing. Thanks for the articles Grimnir! When serious news magazines and newspaper start discussing these problems, the palace gets scared. However, I don't think the major glossies who have promoted Charlene and this wedding from the beginning will follow suit (Point e Vue, Paris Match, Gala, & Bunte), because they want the photos from the weddings. But the media is stupid, Monaco needs them more than they need Monaco. The palace will not turn away the major glossies because the entire purpose behind this made-for-tv-wedding is to garner attention. The several media/PR threads are divided into specific topics. A few, but maybe overlapping threads, is better than starting a new thread for every single link - which is what was being done. Some of these threads are only related to wedding issues and will ceased after that, but the PR Machine is a general one that will continue. This thread is only for any media items about problems with the wedding. The idea that the Sunday Times article would be one of more to come. It's not perfect, but it is a compromise between one general current events threads (with Part I, II, III, etc.) in which everything under the sun is discussed and a thread for eevery article found.
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Post by sandsla on May 13, 2011 17:17:58 GMT -5
Is there anything in those articles that we didn't bring up years ago. They could have saved themselves the embarrassment and the waste of money if someone payed an ounce of attention to what some people who did not have an agenda of their own had to say. When I warned about this on another forum they all replied to me "It's called spin!" (as if that was something good). All I want to say to them is NICE SPIN!
Myadia I too had to laugh at their comment about Nicole and her stalking behavior that Albert doesn't bother to curb, as if he likes this circus around him. The reason I brought Nicole up on the red forum that time was to get their attention about the trouble they have allowed Nicole to be! They should ban Nicole from Monaco and move her ass back to Paris. I also mentioned how these women would try to make a circus out of Albert's wedding and I could just see the headlines! It hasn't even happened yet and it is already there! If there was anything real about the wedding other than a story about one more gold-digger--one after a tiara, they might have been kinder to him if he had at last found love. I can't believe the Palace has been so publicly blatant about the only reason Albert is marrying this girl is to boost his economy, (not as if she cares) like that would really want to make anyone attend and be used as a tool to boost Monaco's economy.
Albert needs to abort this charade while he can, suck up what ever he has to for awhile, and get Charlene as far away from him as possible, including Nicole, and then start working on and rebuilding his image. Which means of course, stop flaunting his private life for a change like some juvenile! Then when or if he ever meets someone he falls in love with, and they keep their relationship quiet like mature adults, maybe people will be happy for him and more interested in attending his marriage and patronizing Monaco. He needs to first focus on his own image and get rid of anyone who ever thought it was a good idea to try to market and peddle his private life.
I didn't know they arrived late after the Queen, too funny!--I always say Charlene isn't happy unless she is the most important person in the room, no doubt she thought she was!
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Post by mrplowfan on May 13, 2011 21:31:08 GMT -5
Albert has to deal with Nicole on some level because of the child. However, his attorney has really done him a disservice by not limiting what she can and can't do. She refused to leave his apartment (reportedly) in Paris. She's moved to Monaco without Albert's approval and supposedly enrolled the boy in school there. She shows up at events uninvited and Albert doesn't have her tossed. Embarrass her a few times and she wouldn't do that again - didn't he do that to Tamara?
I don't understand Albert. He made no bones about not wanting Jazmin in Europe (according to Eringer) even though her Mom was supposedly an abusive alcoholic (I have no knowledge of it, Eringer's words). Yet he can't keep Nicole away? He can't stop her from being a commentator at his wedding? Smells fishy to me.
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Post by margarita on May 14, 2011 2:04:00 GMT -5
Albert has to deal with Nicole on some level because of the child. However, his attorney has really done him a disservice by not limiting what she can and can't do. She refused to leave his apartment (reportedly) in Paris. She's moved to Monaco without Albert's approval and supposedly enrolled the boy in school there. She shows up at events uninvited and Albert doesn't have her tossed. Embarrass her a few times and she wouldn't do that again - didn't he do that to Tamara? I don't understand Albert. He made no bones about not wanting Jazmin in Europe (according to Eringer) even though her Mom was supposedly an abusive alcoholic (I have no knowledge of it, Eringer's words). Yet he can't keep Nicole away? He can't stop her from being a commentator at his wedding? Smells fishy to me. Good point mrplowfan! My guess: Albert feels unconsciously guilty or bad in relation to many people - that's maybe why he ddioesn't have the confidence to stand up and say STOP !!! that's too much !!! He maybe feels that he has done many things that are not right (or not done many things he should have done) - so now he has no "right" to act against anyone actively but must be "a good boy". Maybe he thinks thats why he deserves Charlene? No mentaly healthy man would hook up with her on permanent basis. I guess many peope would forgive him everything if he would send away CW & Clan as far away as possible and set a STOP to this faux tale. South Africa is a perfect place for them. Can you imagine the Wittstocks comming from Spain or Italy or somewhere round the corner ?
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Post by paca on May 14, 2011 5:38:53 GMT -5
Albert has to deal with Nicole on some level because of the child. However, his attorney has really done him a disservice by not limiting what she can and can't do. She refused to leave his apartment (reportedly) in Paris. She's moved to Monaco without Albert's approval and supposedly enrolled the boy in school there. She shows up at events uninvited and Albert doesn't have her tossed. Embarrass her a few times and she wouldn't do that again - didn't he do that to Tamara? I don't understand Albert. He made no bones about not wanting Jazmin in Europe (according to Eringer) even though her Mom was supposedly an abusive alcoholic (I have no knowledge of it, Eringer's words). Yet he can't keep Nicole away? He can't stop her from being a commentator at his wedding? Smells fishy to me. I think you are under a misconception here. Albert has no right by any law to tell Nicole what she can do or not. the only right he has is towards his child and to decide about how he should be raised. And that always with the well being of the child in mind, not his. A sperm donation does not turn Nicole into his possession. He can have security to prevent her from attending certain events, he can decide not to invite her to his wedding or other events that she might want to be. He does not have to invite her into his house or the palace, he does not have to speak to her if he does not wish to (though that usually makes things worse), but he can not tell her where to live etc. Seeing that he got her a house in the region, obviously he wants her here. He could have just given her the money for child support and let her organize herself like normal people would.
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Post by mrplowfan on May 14, 2011 7:35:49 GMT -5
Albert can easily banish her from the French Var. He has the power to do so. He can also exercise his rights to provide only child support and not the lavish lifestyle with body guards, nannies and cooks she has right now. If she wants the extras she'd sign an agreement with his attorney to behave in a certain way. She's also sign a confidentiality clause.
Again, Albert did that with Tamara/Jazmin. What is the issue here that he can't do it with Nicole? Albert is an absolute monarch and he doesn't have to let Nicole anywhere near the country. He obviously chooses to allow her activities. How hard is it to turn her away from events? How difficult to make it known that anyone who entertains her won't be expecting anyone from the family of Monaco at their events. It's not about controlling her. It's about controlling his environment.
I agree he has to deal with her because of the child. I don't agree that she has the rights to do the stalking behaviors she is doing.
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Post by MyAdia on May 14, 2011 8:01:43 GMT -5
I hope that Nicole does commentate for a station for the wedding, that really be the cherry on top for this three ring circus of a wedding! But, as I stated before, I doubt that she will because Nicole is still emotionally attached to Albert and she and her sister (who both participated on these forums) still had hopes that SHE not Charlene would be the Princess of Monaco.
Nicole's house was bought BEFORE she went public with her story and AFTER she showed up at the palace with Alexandre looking for Albert and AFTER she sent photos of Alexandre to Rainier (which Albert's handlers intercepted them). Nicole only got the house near Monaco because she was in effect blackmailing Albert. Nicole stated herself that she wanted a home IN Monaco, but Albert refused. So, Nicole herself found the home in Villefranche-sur-Mer, which Albert bought.
I don't think Albert WANTS Nicole near him, he is just too spineless to keep her away. Plus, Nicole doesn't give a damn because she is obsessed with Albert and having Alexandre being his heir. But, Nicole has been turned away from events in Monaco. I come across photos of her all the time still trying to make herself a celebrity.
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Post by hibou on May 14, 2011 8:23:13 GMT -5
Oh I want Nicole to be a broadcaster at this wedding. Just imagine what she will come out with. Those juicy little "tidbits" that make it oh so personal. JMO
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Post by axelle on May 14, 2011 9:40:42 GMT -5
That would be very entertaining!
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Post by royalpauper on May 14, 2011 10:14:35 GMT -5
Albert: "Darling, why such a long face? I brought you to the wedding of the century as I promised..." Charlene: "I wasn't expecting to be sitted with the servants!"
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Post by paca on May 14, 2011 10:14:55 GMT -5
Albert can easily banish her from the French Var. He has the power to do so. He can also exercise his rights to provide only child support and not the lavish lifestyle with body guards, nannies and cooks she has right now. If she wants the extras she'd sign an agreement with his attorney to behave in a certain way. She's also sign a confidentiality clause. Again, Albert did that with Tamara/Jazmin. What is the issue here that he can't do it with Nicole? Albert is an absolute monarch and he doesn't have to let Nicole anywhere near the country. He obviously chooses to allow her activities. How hard is it to turn her away from events? How difficult to make it known that anyone who entertains her won't be expecting anyone from the family of Monaco at their events. It's not about controlling her. It's about controlling his environment. I agree he has to deal with her because of the child. I don't agree that she has the rights to do the stalking behaviors she is doing. No not in the real world. First of all this not the Var, we are Alpes maritimes. If he would do anything like that, Nicole would be going straight to the human rights court. They already have a problem with human rights seeing how they handled the Monica fristedt case(read the bimcam site) : all you need in Monaco is a crumpled piece of paper and calling it a search warrant to open you the doors to an apartment, taking whatever pleases you and then you get away with it. In any other European state a lot of heads would roll. Not in Monaco. Same goes for the Hobbs Melville case, which was a complete farce. then look at how they covered their butts in the Saffra case....these are just a few prominent cases. A minor one was were an old woman was woken, because they were tearing down her house...with her still inside. So they would want to avoid extra media attention. Remember that they only settled the organist affair due to international pressure. Albert only acts on pressure not on morals. He got away with Tamara, because she let him. I don't consider any of the babymamas particularly smart or educated. yes they had lawyers working for them, but a lawyer is only as good as the info he receives from you and knows what you want to achieve. I see that with my ex who lives with his lawyer in lala land because he doesn't know which papers I have and what the legal consequences are. Also the lawyers arguing depends on what you want to achieve: have money and a privileged lifestyle or someone involved in raising your child. Tamara seems to have wanted the good life, her daughter a father. Seems that the mother already didn't act in the interest of her child. poor kid. Nicole wants recognition, not necessarily the money 5not that she minds it). But she doesn't want recognition for her son but for herself. Another mother who puts herself in front of her child. A mother with primarily her child's interest at heart would have fought a different fight. Albert made out of court arrangements with both mothers. If they aren't happy with it, they can take him to court. these women forget why Albert doesn't want to go to court. Jazmin is now at the age that she can fight her own battles and she should. she has now the chance to fight for her interests and distance herself from her mother. She has to know what she wants, what her rights are and then go for it. then again legal battles take a lot of energy and she might just move on and make the best of her life. With her dad it would most likely turn a mess, so better stay clear from him.
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Post by emmeline on May 14, 2011 12:08:34 GMT -5
I do hope Nicole comments about the street circus!! Please Nicole, go ahead!! Let us have some fun!!
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Post by countess on May 14, 2011 17:20:01 GMT -5
I also mentioned how these women would try to make a circus out of Albert's wedding and I could just see the headlines! It hasn't even happened yet and it is already there i know ISN"T IT GREAT but come on, they're not in the center ring, that's reserved for the non dynamic duo. i heard somewhere on a morning show a snarky remark about his children not invited to the wedding (the View i think) anyway, that would be great if that what turned out to be the story of the day in the US. all the entertainment shows doing stories about the children being neglected and hurt " WHERE were the children" "Children not invited" "evil step-mother forbids the grooms children" OH it could be good, REEALLLLLLLLLLLLLl good. come on ENQUIRer or STAR, we want coverage of those poor, unloved and sad children <<<< HEADLINE
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Post by countess on May 14, 2011 17:27:12 GMT -5
yeee hoooo! less than a month, i got 300 posts THANKS MYAdia!!! we're rolling, rolling, rolling GOOOD JOB!
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Post by emmeline on May 14, 2011 17:42:30 GMT -5
That would be so cool, having more pics of the uninvented children and letting Charlene as the eveil step mother (that she is) I can't wait for this wedding!!
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Post by countess on May 14, 2011 17:54:25 GMT -5
like someone mentioned we now have the "happy couple" > WillKat, the media needs something to temper the suger with>>>DRAMA>>> unhappiness>>> seperations and the non dynamic duo fit that description. OH BOY this is going to BE GREAT www.youtube.com/watch?v=arZdeg_fL-I
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