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Post by refia on May 16, 2011 10:26:51 GMT -5
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Post by MyAdia on May 16, 2011 10:32:13 GMT -5
Please, let's not make another theme Charlene photo thread unless it is unique and informative that promotes discussion. We already have so many others - the smirk, the before and after style, who made it, the before and after Albert jewelry, the plastic surgery, the childhood, the happy couple, etc. Perhaps it's better to just have a generic photo thread because almost any photo can be deemed channeling Grace. Actually, I really don't like a general photo threads because the thread just become reposting photos that people already seen in her current events threads. Theme threads are ok and do serve a purpose, if they are informative, unique purpose and promote opinions. It is informative for SOME to have for example a "who made it" thread or a jewelry thread (which I might just re-titled the "before and after Albert jewelry" thread to a general jewelry thread - these threads serve unique purpose, or informative and can promote discussions. This is an opinion board and I don't want to duplicate Charlene's Facebook pages populated with just photos of Charlene, which her friends started to PROMOTE Charlene.
What do others think?
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Post by refia on May 16, 2011 14:07:06 GMT -5
Hm... Channeling Grace is just one point which Charlene uses to be the new icon. But she tries to not make it obviously in saying she finds Graces wedding dress outdated for example. I don´t know. It´s just funny to see.
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Post by refia on Jun 3, 2011 6:51:22 GMT -5
From Bunte: Kate looks better than Charlene, but Grace will never be reached. I read that Kates wedding dress is indeed influenced by Grace. Yes, Diana would be too weird, so they decided for an other icon wedding XD I really had to laugh when I saw the dress for the first time, because of Charlene.
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Post by refia on Jun 3, 2011 9:28:22 GMT -5
I always asked myself why Charlene was at one Bambi awards There you have the answer
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Post by emmeline on Jun 3, 2011 9:43:46 GMT -5
Wow, seeing this last pic is like seeing a transvestite (Charlene) trying to copy Grace. Sad. Well, i've found some interesting things about Charlene and Eva Peron. For example, Evita was 24 years younger than Peron. They've been married for 7 years, until her death. Here a pic of their marriage: Doesn't this look similar? Eva and Peron never have kids. There were rumours that him was impotent. But, some years ago appeared a woman claiming that she was his daughter. The resemblace was pretty uncanny. The woman died like 2 years later after saying she was Peron's daughter. For me, she was killed. Charlene and Albert: kids? well, we'll have to wait and see. I don't think they'll have, but of course i can be wrong. Albert already has two illegitimate children. Peron, btw, never wanted to married. He was like Albert in that aspect, but, times were different, and he needed a wife, because he was a catholic colonel. So he married first Aurelia Tizon in 1929. She would die of uterine cancer 1938. Then came Eva, whom he married in 1945. She died of, surprise surprise, uterine cancer in 1952. Finally, he married Maria Estela Martinez aka Isabelita Peron, in 1960. She would be the first female president in Argentina when her husband died in 1974, she replaced him because she was vice president of him. She was ousted from the government in 1976, that was Argentina's most bloody dictatorship in our history.
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Post by duchesscornflower on Jun 3, 2011 9:47:55 GMT -5
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Post by scout on Jun 3, 2011 9:50:43 GMT -5
^ Those gloves make Charlene the Princess of Fashion Disaster. Whatever possessed her to wear them?
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Post by emmeline on Jun 3, 2011 9:52:47 GMT -5
Well, continue with the similarities: Eva only finished primary school and at the age of 15 she moved to Buenos Aires to pursue her acting career. Another coincidence with Trashy, that is a high school drop out and pursued her "swimming" career.
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Post by emmeline on Jun 3, 2011 9:55:33 GMT -5
And, this is funny, doesn't Evita look like Lynette?
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Post by refia on Jun 3, 2011 10:25:03 GMT -5
OMG Emmeline! Karma!
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Post by margarita on Jun 3, 2011 11:51:41 GMT -5
He, you can say what you want but Eva had passion! And she wasn't given the chance to continue her education - unlike Trash. Before she met Peron she had to work to survive. When she married him (pretty soon!) Evita -at least to my knowledge or is it a myth?- was quite active supporting Peron and worked again! Charlene Lynette Wittstock lived the past five years doing NOTHING but posing and plastic surgeries and is now looking forward for downtime and off-time. To compare CW with Evita is comparing a lightning with a firefly. She has no butt, no energy, no passion, radiates nothing but trash and can't even fake a heart for the country! Without Evita Peron would never have got so far. With CW Albert will soon get down. That's the difference ... JMO ps: Recently I talked to a friend of mine who graduated from the same university (with two degrees!) and she was like OMG - the future Princess of Monaco did not finish school ?!?!?!?!? OMG - she had so much time and access to teachers and mentors learning one or two languages, learn so much about culture, politics, philosophy ... and did waste all that! What a person must that be and who is so dump to pick her? THATS THE NEW IMAGE OF MONACO YOU IDIOTS IN CHARGE!
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Post by emmeline on Jun 3, 2011 12:10:42 GMT -5
I agree Margarita. I was just pointing out the similarities. I'm not pro-Peron, but Evita at least had passion for what she used to do. And she wasn't searching for a sucker to get married to her. That's the big difference.
Charlene is so trash, that she will humilitate herself to have access to all the jewelery and money she can have. She actually has been doing it since her relationship with Albert.
Poor Monaco, everytime i think of Trash, i can't help but shudder. I so hope they can get ridd off them as soon as they can (and want)
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Post by smt on Jun 3, 2011 19:13:46 GMT -5
Say what you want about Eva Peron, but unlike Trampolina, she possessed an intellect and a personality. The only personality exhibited by Trampolina was manufactured in the mind of a plastic surgeon!
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Post by paca on Jun 3, 2011 19:41:56 GMT -5
Eva Peron lived during a different era. For that time she was a rather emancipated woman. She did not stand behind the man, unlike even today a lot of politicians wives do, but beside him. I doubt that Peron would have been staying in power as long as he did without her and her myth. She used her poor background to his advantage and to motivate the masses in his favour. Trashy only wants to be admired for breathing without help. She has never worked, she is not working now and she has no intention of ever doing so in here entire life. The woman believes she is a gift to the world. Personally I think that woman needs treatment.
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Post by MyAdia on Jun 4, 2011 7:56:08 GMT -5
Trashy only wants to be admired for breathing without help. She has never worked, she is not working now and she has no intention of ever doing so in here entire life. The woman believes she is a gift to the world. Personally I think that woman needs treatment. Paca, the above is so true. Trashlene's comments on these message board are testimonies to that. Trashlene really does believe that unlike all the other Princess (except Mathilde) she is the only one that has no BAGGAGE (her favorite word) and being a former Olympian makes her better than anyone else. It was so funny to read her and her flunkies put down Albert and all the Grimaldis for having so much baggage, but at the same time begging Albert to marry her. The only masses that Charlene have for support are the Wittstocks and other South Africans that are riding the Village Idiot Albert of Monaco's gravy train - and expect many more passengers like the Jason Hartmans of the world.
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Post by paca on Jun 4, 2011 8:24:14 GMT -5
they will all have a rude awakening eventually and then they will show the world who they really are and what their real motives were. I don't think that they realize that when porky changes his mind, he does it pretty quick and without notice. I don't think Eringer is particularly smart, but surely smarter then trashy. He didn't see it coming when his time was up and neither will trashy. He was pushing for the extension once they had forced him into it and just before the finishline he cancelled it. They were already down to 3 contestants and millions had been spent. Albert didn't care and to save his butt, Proust came up with the Odeon and got Valery into the government and thus quiet. Albert always has his cleaners and you will see how fast trashy will be out and gone and no longer being heard of. If he decides it's best for him to have her gone, she will be gone. for the moment he thinks she is good for him. He thought so with the land extension too. Or the hospital. Albert will do what is good for Albert in the end. That's the one good thing about this farce, because none of them has emotions or morals involved. It's all about what they think would benefit them the most. If there are no benefits there is no need to continue.
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Post by sandsla on Jun 4, 2011 18:59:51 GMT -5
Trashy only wants to be admired for breathing without help. She has never worked, she is not working now and she has no intention of ever doing so in here entire life. The woman believes she is a gift to the world. Personally I think that woman needs treatment. Paca, the above is so true. Trashlene's comments on these message board are testimonies to that. Trashlene really does believe that unlike all the other Princess (except Mathilde) she is the only one that has no BAGGAGE (her favorite word) and being a former Olympian makes her better than anyone else. It was so funny to read her and her flunkies put down Albert and all the Grimaldis for having so much baggage, but at the same time begging Albert to marry her. The only masses that Charlene have for support are the Wittstocks and other South Africans that are riding the Village Idiot Albert of Monaco's gravy train - and expect many more passengers like the Jason Hartmans of the world. Both of you guys took the words out of my mouth, actually even Emelines quote: "Charlene is so trash, that she will humilitate herself to have access to all the jewelery and money she can have. She actually has been doing it since her relationship with Albert." I have also watched and been sickened by Charlene and her posts on these forums trying to hunt down the family jewels, Grace's personal jewels--she goes through pictures of Grace with her jewels on--especially her tiara's (of course), since for six years, all she has done on these forums, is gone on about how Charlene was going to get the "Tiara" Charlene was the originator of mentioning a Tiara. I always thought she meant it as a figure of speech, which was bad enough, but after seeing all her posts in the last year and a half, it was obvious she meant it quite literally with her six year old mentality and cold calculating character. She was always asking if anyone knew who had Grace's jewels, and then after learning Caroline had them. she expresses that she thinks they should go to Albert's wife! This girl just really turns your stomach--it is hard to believe someone like her can really exist. Then she wants to know why the Grimaldi's don't have a crown! She says Albert is rich enough he could buy one! She is dead serious! ;D She really think he should buy one! ;D Because of course that is exactly what Charlene would do! ;D Paca you are right this is a girl that has some serious issues! Anyway Myadia and Paca you could not have said it better! And MyAdia is exactly right above about reading Charlene's posts--Is that the kind of person anyone would choose to marry! They had to know it was her and her partner in crime. Those posts were ridiculously obvious-- they were meant for the express purpose to send a message to Albert to try to convince him that no one else would ever marry him but Charlene, she was the best he would or could ever do! And that Charlene's image would help him--her "superficial image" of what I don't know?--that she was tall? They went through every tactic they could think of to try to force Albert to marry Charlene, that was just one of them, but that was always the message she was sending if you read her posts-- Charlene was only worthy of marrying Albert by default! Instead of ever trying to improve herself by making any effort, it was easier to rely on Albert's own vulnerabilities and insecurities and convince him that no one better than Charlene was going to come along, she was an obstacle in Albert's way of him ever finding anyone else as long as she was living in Monaco and publicly on his arm. She counted on that Albert never had the balls to send her home and end the relationship, he would eventually give in, even though she knew if he hadn't been hoping for something better--he would have married her years ago! Just like CM said, she heard Charlene say, with her own ears, that she was never leaving Monaco! That girl dug herself in even before she arrived, that is why she talked to the press early on, Albert even recognized what she was doing (that is why he had to grab her arm and tell her to stop it, as she posed for photographs, and then go on the Today show to dial back what she was trying to get out there), but knowing what she was doing and about, he still let her elbow her way in! Charlene never expected that she would have to improve herself in anyway! Albert was a sucker and easily manipulated. Anyway, it was because of these posts of hers that it made me cringe when people would put down Albert in the same way.....it fed right into her agenda, in trying to convince Albert that he was such a big loser that he had no choice but to marry Charlene, that is why I always wanted you guys to dial back attacking his person in that way--Charlene probably wanted to kiss everyone who called him fat, a loser, etc... Anyway that is exactly what Charlene was using herself in her own posts to try to break him down to get that ring on her finger! You think she wanted Albert to lose weight or to ever feel better about himself, or to have any more confidence in himself that would send her packing! No way!Of course not! So why she was licking him like a lollipop to his face (as his supporter), twoface Charlene was ripping him to shreds on the forums trying to keep him vulnerable and insecure. The message had always been, not that there wasn't anyone out there better than Charlene....the message was that Charlene was the best "that Albert" could ever do or ever hope for, so he might as well just marry Charlene, even if they had no real relationship, or love for each other, or that she was a bought and paid for wh!@#! As Esther (Charlene or one of her relatives) said, they were counting on Albert's money to make her past and money payments go away!
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Post by paca on Jun 4, 2011 19:38:25 GMT -5
I think Albert knew what she was about and did not like it. But he did not think at that time that it would do him any harm. The problem was though that he is incapable of ruling and things turned from bad to worse. And the more he tried to get out of it, the worse things got. He took the wrong turn whenever he could. Then he ended up in such a bad position politically that he saw himself cornered. Proust was gone too. He was lucky that some of Prousts decisions covered his back. I don't think that his successor is able or willing to do the same. So trashy was still around and porky was like Kafkas mouse in front of the trap and the cat right behind him. He did not really have a choice from his point of view. The obvious to fire some people and send trashy home never seemed to occur to him. He had fired so many people already and nothing got better. He just has to look at the round about that goes up to the rock to see how inefficient his people are. They built an entire new bus stop just to find out that it's not working. now it's back where it was and they have sth in the middle of the road that serves no purpose. So to admit that all these years he has been waiting for a job he is not qualified for must be rather painful. Less painful seems to him to marry a dumb woman in the hope of distracting people to actually see him for what he is. For now that is, because soon he will realize that it would have been better to get some smart people in to help him instead of wasting money on a plastic doll. And on a personal level I believe he will be experiencing a tough time too.
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Post by refia on Jun 5, 2011 4:39:08 GMT -5
I feel now almost guilty because I wrote often that Albert is an idiot and fat When I saw the website of the Place and the monogram of them, I thought: she is not yet a Princess, so why put the monogram of them?
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