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Post by refia on Jun 14, 2011 12:34:48 GMT -5
Okay.. It´s really odd.
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Post by emmeline on Jun 14, 2011 12:37:00 GMT -5
Even Stahl is better looking than the trash! God!
This is story is getting sicker and sicker with time... :X
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Post by paca on Jun 14, 2011 12:49:14 GMT -5
but they both have a bad hairdresser.... Stahl looks like she smears egg yolk in her hair and the roots show...two fake blondes.....both frauds in every sense of the word
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Post by mrplowfan on Jun 14, 2011 14:50:58 GMT -5
My daughter thinks that there is a photo of Marie Chantal of Greece with her hair and face exactly like the first photo. It's not an original pose - although none of the reigning royals have "posed" in a swimsuit intentionally for a magazine. That's just trash.
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Post by MyAdia on Jun 14, 2011 15:51:33 GMT -5
I went to the website of Vogue expecting (well, not really) to see some information about the flagship of Monaco, the New Grace, who is featured in the July issue of Vogue. Nothing. Not surprised because Charlene is only this great style icon in the delusional minds of herself, the palace and her paid flunkies. Instead, Charlotte is featured on the frontpage - for good reasons - this woman is a natural beauty and a style icon. Please see my post of Charlotte's feature on Vogue's website in Charlotte's thread.
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Post by duchesscornflower on Jun 14, 2011 23:02:47 GMT -5
Here is my take on the photos, Charlene is (and should be) proud of her athletic career and Olympic pursuits. Charlene is a gifted swimmer and perhaps admires this woman: Dara Torres. Any woman in competitive swimming knows who Dara is and everyone in the swimming world admires her success. Dara is the first swimmer from the United States to compete in five Olympic Games (1984, 1988, 1992, 2000 and 2008), and, at age 41, the oldest swimmer ever to earn a place on the U.S. Olympic team., Ok….enough about Dara. But look at this well known, much published photo of Dara. The body language, legs, arms, hands, expression are so similar to Charlene's. Perhaps this photo of Dara was an inspiration to Charlene. Great for a fellow swim competitor, not the best photo for a princess-to-be. And as for the inspiration for the ball gown photo, well judge for yourself.
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Post by Elektra on Jun 15, 2011 3:00:42 GMT -5
Re: Charlene posing in swimsuit
Isn't that what we observe all the time in advertisement? Whether it is cars or any other product. They use half naked women to get attention in order to sell their products.
I wonder what is the product to be sold? MC or PA?
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Post by hibou on Jun 15, 2011 10:27:13 GMT -5
Here is my take on the photos, Charlene is (and should be) proud of her athletic career and Olympic pursuits. Charlene is a gifted swimmer and perhaps admires this woman: Dara Torres. Any woman in competitive swimming knows who Dara is and everyone in the swimming world admires her success. Dara is the first swimmer from the United States to compete in five Olympic Games (1984, 1988, 1992, 2000 and 2008), and, at age 41, the oldest swimmer ever to earn a place on the U.S. Olympic team., Ok….enough about Dara. But look at this well known, much published photo of Dara. The body language, legs, arms, hands, expression are so similar to Charlene's. also.kottke.org/misc/images/dara-torres.jpgtheroyalcorrespondent.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/charlotte21.jpgPerhaps this photo of Dara was an inspiration to Charlene. Great for a fellow swim competitor, not the best photo for a princess-to-be. And as for the inspiration for the ball gown photo, well judge for yourself. 2.bp.blogspot.com/-4kcWeDvwzVg/TfYD3UP80zI/AAAAAAAAOsg/U0OWxKawgYY/s1600/14604523842_H7VXS.jpgi599.photobucket.com/albums/tt76/agogo61/11.jpgKarma for the photos. You are right, she's trying to align herself with a true Olympian by using the pose. The stance that was chosen for the photo is Greek and harks back to the kouros figures that on the Parthenon. How's that for elevating her to a Goddess!JMO AdminNote: Removed display of photo from quoted text since photo is displayed right above
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Post by grimnir on Jun 15, 2011 14:38:16 GMT -5
The swimsuit is AFAIK totally impropriate for competitive swimming. Just a fancy thing for beside the pool.
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Post by MyAdia on Jun 17, 2011 20:51:20 GMT -5
”I want to make Monaco one of the fashion capitals of the world. It would be wonderful to team up with some of my international fashion friends, like Stella McCartney and Ralph Lauren, and get the place buzzing with energy again,” she says. ”Grace Kelly forged a link between Monaco and the movie world, and I would like to create a strong bond between Monaco and the fashion community.” - Charlene Wittstock The same reporter, Natalie Livingstone, who interviewed Charlene for the Tatler interview also interviewed her for this Vogue interview. The interview was conducted the week that she was in New York for her bridal shower (April 13th). Clearly Charlene is proud of her Tatler interview. This is one cold bitch who does not care what the f*ck people in Monaco think of her! She rags about the people of Monaco again. Albert has fed and fostered this awful monster who will be the biggest bitch Monaco has ever seen.OMG, this woman along with her moronic husband are stark raving mad - big time delusional. i read Charlene's entire Vogue interview and Charlene wants to make Monaco the fashion capital of the world with her as its style icon! I tell you no lie - this woman really belies what all her flunkies have been telling her, including Karl Lagerfeld - she is a style icon. That's why Albert doesn't mind Charlene spending thousand of dollars on each outfit - he really belies that he has not pay dirt with Charlene. OMG, you have to read the interview. You have to read the interview. She really belies that she is a style icon. She really believe this! OMG! Sandsla, Charlene and her flunkies hare protecting her style icon image on The Royal lunatic board - that's why some of them write tons of posts highlighting all of Charlene's outfits and how stylish she looks - even showing comparing photos. My mouth is literally hanging open at this woman's delusions! This article clearly depicts this woman as the biggest gold digging fame-whore who spends all her time spending the Village Idiot of Monaco's money.Royal Correspondent scan in the article.
Fit For a Princess Zimbabwean-born Charlene Wittstock brings and athlete’s drive to her new role as Monaco’s modern bride.
Conducted by Natalie Livingstone in April 2011 Published July 2011
The first time Prince Albert saw Charlene Wittstock, she was in a swimsuit. A former competitive swimmer who won numerous championships and represented South Africa in the 2000 Olympics, Wittstock was taking part in an event in Monaco when she caught the prince’s eye ten years ago. ”It was incredibly flattering,” she recalls. ”After seeing me swim, Albert asked my management for permission to take me out. We spent the whole evening laughing and talking.”
It was not until five years later, in December 2005, that the two reconnected in Cape Town. ”On New Year’s Day, he officially asked me out,” says Charlene. ”Our first public appearance was a the Torino Olympic Games in February 2006.” As unfamiliar as it was to become part of a royal entourage, she says, “Albert put me at ease. It was clear that we shared the same passions; we both became very emotional watching the athletes. Sport is the common denominator of our lives.”
She is retracting the stages of her romance with one of the world’s most eligible bachelor’s — they will marry on July 1 in Monaco — on a spring trip to New York while in a Chelsea studio having her hair and makeup done. Besides squeezing in a Vogue photo shoot, some pre-wedding shopping, and a visit to what she describes as “my favorite beauty spot in the world,” the Warren-Tricomi salon at the Plaza, she is here to attend her bachelorette party. Tonight she will submit to an outfit with a leather-and-lace theme put together by her maids of honor, Danish designer Isabell Kristensen and Prince Albert’s cousin Donatella Knecht de Massy, and join guests including model Karolina Kurkova, Fox 5 reporter Carolyn Gustoff, and nightlife entrepreneur Amy Sacco for dinner at the Lion and dancing at Cipriani Downtown.
After an ankle fracture three years ago, Charlene, now 33, retired from professional swimming, but she still trains at least three times a week, often with her former Olympic coach. In preparation for the perpetual camera readiness expected of her as first lady of Monaco, she had cut out weight training and increased her stretching time to give her body a leaner line. And she’s been stretching in other ways, too, adapting her style from insouciant Bulawayo-born beach babe (the family moved from Zimbabwe to South Africa when Charlene was twelve) to appropriately attired royal consort and poised princess-to-be with an evolving sense of her own style.
“Finding my fashion feet has certainly been the biggest challenge,” she says, remembering her “trial by fire” at Monaco’s 2007 Red Cross Ball. ”I was literally a fish out of water. I thought it was all fun, fun, fun, and didn’t give my outfit any thought. I had been playing beach volleyball all day, painted my nails red, and threw on a green dress. I thought I looked great at the time, but looking back, I realize that my debut into Monaco society should have been better executed!”
At the best of times, her future husband’s tiny, ancient, and exceptionally moneyed principality is not an easy place to find your comfort zone. Though few palace pundits predicted that the relationship would mouth to anything. Albert has silenced skeptics by insisting that Charlene decamp there. It was a testing time. Lacking any official status and unable to speak French, Charlene lived alone in a small apartment with few friends to support her; she was thousands of miles from home, and her vivacious South African wit and no-nonsense attitude were lost in translation among the notoriously frosty Monaco beau mooned. ”It was sometimes overwhelming,” she recalls of the solitude and jealousies she suffered as Prince Albert’s girlfriend. ”I was trying too hard to please too many people and at times was at risk of losing a sense of myself.”
Eventually, Charlene’s unassuming personality and raucous sense of humor began to win her friends — sporty and statuesque, she is the kind of woman who will joke to fellow guests at charity galas that she is the only woman in the room to have devoured her entire dinner plus two bread rolls. Through it all, Albert never wavered in his devotion, presenting her with a pear-shaped Repossi engagement ring a year ago. ”I fell in love with her sense of humor, her simplicity, and the natural way she relates to people,” he says. ”To me Charlene never looks more beautiful than when she is natural — without makeup and her hair pulled back.”
Natural is all very well, but this woman has events to attend. Determined to learn from her mistakes, Charlene was advised by a coterie of place insiders and Monaco stalwarts. “In the early days, I listened to other people about how I should dress, “she admits. ”I was insecure. I felt pressure to err on the side of caution — I was terrified of meeting a head of state in over the top outfit.” Now, although her tastes tend to lean toward simple clothes that flatter her athletic frame, she is far more experimental. ”I’ve reached the point where I know what I like and what works. I’m starting to play with fresher bolder, and more daring looks.” She was helped by Giorgio Armani, who will dress her for the religious part of her wedding and who notes that her casual elegance and slender figure look equally good in suits and evening gowns with necklines “that emphasize the beautiful structure of her shoulders.”
Wittstock has also been taking under the wing of Karl Lagerfeld, who has enjoyed bring out a play between romantic and masculine in her wardrobe, pairing a strictly cut Dior Homme jacket, for example, with a bustier and a floating chiffon skirt. ”She loves clean-cut clothes with a touch of menswear, which looks very feminine on her,” he says. As Charlene explains, “Karl took me to his workshop in Paris. He said, ‘You are going to be a style icon! You bring a breath of fresh air and modern glamour to Monaco.’ Then he asked me if there was one item of clothing that I had always wanted to experiment with, and I replied, “A smoking jacket.’ He went back to his apartment and presented me with his own white shirt and smoking jacket from his closet.” Lagerfeld recently shot the royal couple for the Monaco Palace archives and encouraged her to select the clothes herself. ”He trusts my sense of style, and as a result my confidence has grown.”
Grown to such an extent that Charlene has plans to inaugurate a Monaco Fashion Week. ”I want to make Monaco one of the fashion capitals of the world. It would be wonderful to team up with some of my international fashion friends, like Stella McCartney and Ralph Lauren, and get the place buzzing with energy again,” she says. ”Grace Kelly forged a link between Monaco and the movie world, and I would like to create a strong bond between Monaco and the fashion community.”
Her position as an outsider crashing the bastions of old Europe, just like her late mother-in-law, will only increase the attention of the fashion world. ”I think she could turn out to be very influential to European designers,” says Michael Kors, another Wittstock favorite. ”Young, stylish women in Europe often have a much more decadent point of view in the way they get dressed. Charlene has the opportunity to show that you can be athletic, elegant, and youthful; you don’t have to give one thing up.”
As for the responsibilities that come with her title, Charlene feels that her background will help. ”Sport has given me drive nod discipline,” she says. ”It also taught me to remain humble.” For the past fifteen years she has been involved in charitable endeavors centered on swimming. ”I don’t want to be a princess who sits on the sidelines; I want to be present and actively involved,” she says of her new role. ”It’s a life with a purpose. It was my integrity that Albert fell in love with, and it’s a quality I will never lose.”
Tonight, however, she is off duty for once. Savoring that last days of her single life, she holds court in a black Anne Fontaine leather corset and skintight pants. Kabbalah rabbi Yehuda Berg, a trusted confident, joins her to celebrate with Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher in tow. Harvey Weinstein pops by to say hello, and Charlene, like many a bachelorette before her, sinks some tequila.
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Post by emmeline on Jun 17, 2011 21:40:07 GMT -5
OMG OMG OMG. She really believes she is the Princess of Fashion! It's what we have stated here forever: she only wants to be recognized for being Princess of Fashion. "Grace Kelly forged a link between Monaco and the movie world, and I would like to create a strong bond between Monaco and the fashion community." WTF?!
omg, i think i need to go outside for some fresh air.
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Post by sophia on Jun 18, 2011 0:27:29 GMT -5
Dara has slim shoulders. I assumed swimmers had broad shoulders, so I guess it depends on the body type?
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Post by mrszinck on Jun 18, 2011 2:23:44 GMT -5
Charlene used all the names of the designers that she met or where Albert gives money to. As if they are good friends. Only idiots do something like that.
‘I want to make Monaco one of the fashion capitals of the world.’ She must be living in fantasy world.
She really think she can take over Paris and Milan! And I speak not just about shopping! Please, nobody will go to Monaco for fashion. Only the no-money gold-diggers.
‘Grace Kelly forged a link between Monaco and the movie world’ A disgrace! You don't have to read history books, everyone knows that this is not true.
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Post by paca on Jun 18, 2011 4:58:38 GMT -5
so her coach is leeching as well of Albert. No wonder he sings her praise. She seems to have an SA court bas created around herself.
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Post by paca on Jun 18, 2011 5:23:35 GMT -5
Methinks a bunch of people have lost their marbles. And what about that Kabbalah guy? I thought she was supposed to be catholic now, so she goes and imitates Madonna? These people are all so ridiculous and dumb.If anyone could have brought fashion to Monaco it would have been Caro and now maybe Charlotte. But that is not what will help Monaco. And just asking, how long did it take for Paris to become fashion capital? Yes there are other fashion weeks, but does anyone really care? If you don't make it in Paris, then you are just another designer.
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Post by margarita on Jun 18, 2011 5:34:44 GMT -5
"I don’t want to be a princess who sits on the sidelines; I want to be present and actively involved. (...) It’s a life with a purpose. It was my integrity that Albert fell in love with, and it’s a quality I will never lose.”
WHAT??? Does Charlene Wittstock suffer of borderline disorder? In the interview she gave in S.A. after Midmare swim she had no real plans for her life as Princess and looking fwd for off-time, down-time and alone-time. The only thing she was busy with was learning "the big file for the event, you know..."
Now she suddenly want's to be active ... something she NEVER was during her life with Albert (except busy with posing and fashion = being dressed by a stylist and pose for pics and then see what the glossy journals wrote about her).
She doesn't care for anyone but herself on pics!!! CW didn't even learn French!!! She is dump and lazy and wants to become Princess OMG!!! I really have problems with my stomach when I read this!!!
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Post by paca on Jun 18, 2011 6:03:59 GMT -5
yes it will be hard for her to be active in MC without learning French. No one will take her seriously. Well, they won't even if she did, but it appears to me that she wants to be active outside of MC and I think that is pretty much what she is letting people know. SHe wants the title, but apart from that she wants to be jet setting around the globe, be seen and photographed and seeing that she has nothing to interest people in her then her future title, that's what she needs and wants to get a foot in the door. She has been shown by ALbert that there is no need for him in MC and she thinks that she can do the same. The woman has no idea that people understand to a degree that Albert needs to travel, but she will be expected to be here and raise the kids. Not globetrotting. The good thing about this interview is that things have significantly changed since it was made. In the present context it will make her even more unpopular then she already is. I have noticed that the palace is already holding back on promoting the wedding to the locals. Instead they go for the hospital. Obviously they have realized that they are doing more harm then good and are giving people a break by not publishing much over the weekend,when people have time to read and discuss the paper and get really angry. It will be interesting to see if they continue to try and create a wedding hype next week or if they go with other topics.
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Post by margarita on Jun 18, 2011 7:07:33 GMT -5
Hey ... I always tended to think Christiane Stahl has a hidden agenda and knows what she does and says - consciously lying to Albert. (I mean - common - no mentaly healthy person who is able to put one and one together would ever assume that a person like CW can save Monaco or at least not harm it. It is suicidal for Monaco to identify her with Al+MC and build an image on nothing but an virtual (expensive) fashion and media image. It is sooo silly.) But when I see these eyes I see a person that is captured in a very strong field of imaginations and emotions or ideology. She looks like totally convinced of an ideology and reality that is in her mind - and heaven knows how it got there. But she is spreading this stuff strongly to the persons who have face-to-face contact with her. Just my impression. Any opinions? I know this has been asked before: But do we know anything about Stahl's educational background and career? I know one of her previous bosses didn't end up well. Who and how? Am I getting paranoid or was there a CV of Stahl available in the internet until one year ago or so. I remember to have googled her and found something. But now no sign of background info about Stahl available ... since several month! ...any info?
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Post by paca on Jun 18, 2011 7:24:56 GMT -5
yes we do know a few things about Mme Stahl. There use to be a thread on TRF that I had started. SHe worked for Chirac and his late friend Hariri.
Btw if you notice the organigram of the palace, Stahl has nothing to do with the press office. The chef of the press office is Laetitia Pierrat and the attache de presse is Nadege Basile. Stahl is one of 4 members of the committee for the amelioration of the environment...whatever they are supposed to be doing.
She is also a member of the Foundation Prince Pierre.
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Post by MyAdia on Jun 18, 2011 7:39:25 GMT -5
yes we do know a few things about Mme Stahl. There use to be a thread on TRF that I had started. SHe worked for Chirac and his late friend Hariri. Paca, we have a thread titled: Prince Albert's Advisors and Friends, please feel free to add more info about Stahl there. I am interested to know more about her past professional career and even her personal life. I only know that she worked for Chirac and that she is a single mom.
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