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Post by paca on Jul 5, 2011 7:29:20 GMT -5
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Post by margarita on Jul 5, 2011 7:35:25 GMT -5
Thanks for posting this! I don't know French (uuups - I have something in common with CW ) ..... could you please translate only the reasons?? very short would be enough! Thanks Is the contract which was -according to some sources closed or modified to make her go through the ceremonies for money and stay married 5 years (again for money) - are already mentioned?
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Post by MyAdia on Jul 5, 2011 7:41:44 GMT -5
Thanks for all the articles - gain Margarita. I really thought the Germans just loved Charlene - clearly not. Oh, Bunte is still singing her praises. It will be interesting to read Patricia Riekel's - the editor- editorial this week. Her editorial after the engagement announcement (the first one she wrote about them) was very critical - calling them an unhappy not in love wax couple. OMG, didn't we say soon after he wedding the Charlene love fest and this fairy tale love story will cease. Little did we know how soon. The irony (more like due justice) all happened because of Conlene's insatiable appetite for attention and to always show Albert that she is not a gold digger and she is willing to give up everything that she had - hence her one way ticket and trip to the Nice airport. I would have loved to see her performance with Albert when she had her tantrum tantrum and fake surprise of knowing he fooled around and then the packing of the bags - which she probably did in a dramatic way also.
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Post by hibou on Jul 5, 2011 7:47:11 GMT -5
Thanks for all the articles - gain Margarita. I really thought the Germans just loved Charlene - clearly not. Oh, Bunte is still singing her praises. It will be interesting to read Patricia Riekel's - the editor- editorial this week. Her editorial after the engagement announcement (the first one she wrote about them) was very critical - calling them an unhappy not in love wax couple. OMG, didn't we say soon after he wedding the Charlene love fest and this fairy tale love story will cease. Little did we know how soon. The irony (more like due justice) all happened because of Conlene's insatiable appetite for attention and to always show Albert that she is not a gold digger and she is willing to give up everything that she had - hence her one way ticket and trip to the Nice airport. I would have loved to see her performance with Albert when she had her tantrum tantrum and fake surprise of knowing he fooled around and then the packing of the bags - which she probably did in a dramatic way also. The press picked up on her one-way ticket and are making her into a victim. Just what she wanted - get their sympathy and get their attention and Albert paid how many millions of Euros. She's trashing his reputation now that she has the title and some cash. He truly is the village idiot. He needs to step down and take her with him. Monaco has to do something to get rid of these two. JMO
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Post by MyAdia on Jul 5, 2011 8:22:04 GMT -5
Wow and this is published in Paris Match - even better since they are still praising this as a fairy tale romance. There must be a fairy tale that describes a cheating husband and a gold digger wife. For now, here's a Google translation. Was Grace's first visit with the Pope right before or right after they married? Here's an excerpt fro the article: If some twenty Catholic priests, including four bishops, together with Mgr Barsi, Archbishop of Monaco, concelebrated high mass wedding, no member of the Sacred College only joined at the ceremony, while several cardinals were collected alongside Kate Middleton and Prince William in the royal abbey of Westminster.
The Holy See did, whispers it to the Vatican, only moderately enjoyed the absence of Albert of Monaco at the beatification of John Paul II, on May 1, Rome, waited for the prince two days before announcing he would be represented by its Minister of State Michel Roger. If they have promised to God's eternal love, Charlene Wittstock and Protestant, has naturally converted to Catholicism the state religion of the Rock which is the patron Saint Devote, the couple have nevertheless almost did not receive a papal blessing.
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Post by taz on Jul 5, 2011 8:27:31 GMT -5
Marriage Monaco: the reluctance of the Pope
Some twenty Catholic priests, including four bishops, together with Mgr Barsi, Archbishop of Monaco, celebrated wedding mass but no member of the Sacred College joined the ceremony, while several cardinals were alongside Kate Middleton and Prince William in the royal abbey of Westminster.
The Holy See, one whispers at the Vatican, did only moderately enjoyed the absence of Albert of Monaco at the beatification of John Paul II in Rome on May 1st. The prince had announced two days before that he would be represented by his Minister of State, Michel Roger. Although they have promised to God's eternal love, Charlene Wittstock and Protestant, has naturally converted to Catholicism the state religion of the Rock with it's patron Saint Devote, nevertheless the couple almost did not receive a papal blessing.
Pope Benedict XVI couldn't refuse to send his apostolic blessing
In fact, beyond the misunderstandings between Monaco and the Holy See at the recent ceremony at St. Peter's Square in memory of the late Pope, Rome was reluctant to publicly bless a union after many years of concubinage and official recognition of the two children of the prince as this will be a precedent. In addition, the flamboyant aspect of the ceremony is not in line with the solemn style of the Vatican. Simple reluctance of principle? Since the twenty-first century, the Holy See needs to be more modern and indulgent, Pope Benedict XVI didn't refuse to send his apostolic blessing and wishes to the newlyweds through a warm message of the Secretariat of State which was read by the local archbishop.
Another source of joy, their Serene Highnesses are supposed to be received on a state visit by His Holiness. Meanwhile, the successor of the prince of the apostles offered the former swimming champion a rare privilege, a chaplet for Catholic queens. It's made of pearls with a gold medal with the papal coat of arms engraved in an elegant green leather case and not nacre as for less aristocratic guests ... between sovereign states, one knows the art of diplomacy!
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Post by margarita on Jul 5, 2011 8:36:39 GMT -5
Thank you all for the translations ps: wonder how the Vatican will react if it comes out that Albert has fathered at least ONE child while being with Charlene and maybe even engaged to her ? pps: Can the Vatican demand to be informed about all pre-nup contracts and its content?
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Post by hibou on Jul 5, 2011 8:40:58 GMT -5
This Pope is weaker than I thought or misinformed about this couple. The Vatican took the cash basically. Albert must have paid out quite a bit to the church in order for Basi to perform the ceremony. Now they are back peddling and doing damage control. May be that's why it wasn't held in the church? I don't know but the Vatican sure blew it, not to mention setting an example for others who have done what Albert did. It's always politics and money in the end. JMO
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Post by margarita on Jul 5, 2011 8:47:22 GMT -5
This Pope is weaker than I thought or misinformed about this couple. The Vatican took the cash basically. Albert must have paid out quite a bit to the church in order for Basi to perform the ceremony. Now they are back peddling and doing damage control. May be that's why it wasn't held in the church? I don't know but the Vatican sure blew it, not to mention setting an example for others who have done what Albert did. It's always politics and money in the end. JMO ... well, the Vatican might have a great occasion if only one of the new paternity tests turns out positive and the child was fathered while Albert "officially" was with CW and/ or even already engaged
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Post by MyAdia on Jul 5, 2011 8:48:33 GMT -5
This Pope is weaker than I thought or misinformed about this couple. The Vatican took the cash basically. Albert must have paid out quite a bit to the church in order for Basi to perform the ceremony. Now they are back peddling and doing damage control. May be that's why it wasn't held in the church? I don't know but the Vatican sure blew it, not to mention setting an example for others who have done what Albert did. It's always politics and money in the end. JMO Hibou, exactly. also, I am thinking that the compromise was that they would not hold the ceremony in the church.
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Post by scout on Jul 5, 2011 8:57:28 GMT -5
^ And doesn't that just confirm that the whole thing is a sham?
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Post by countess on Jul 5, 2011 9:09:50 GMT -5
This Pope is weaker than I thought or misinformed about this couple. The Vatican took the cash basically. Albert must have paid out quite a bit to the church in order for Basi to perform the ceremony. Now they are back peddling and doing damage control. May be that's why it wasn't held in the church? I don't know but the Vatican sure blew it, not to mention setting an example for others who have done what Albert did. It's always politics and money in the end. JMO no offense to anyone intended and as a recovering catholic with harsh feelings toward the institution, i have no doubt FatAl paid them off with a big check....venal and corruption is something both entitities understand (the vatican is made up of child abusing enablers, they have as much moral standard as a cobra, it's still going on, child molesters are protected by the vatican PROVEN>>> saying mass in vatican city as we speak, one was an officiant at the popes coronation, there was a big article in the dallas paper a couple of years ago, tracing the priests convicted of molesting but protected in vatican city) i'm looking forward to that picture op>>> the old nazi youth, the bi-sexual baby breeding FAtAl and the concubine in her white mantilla. the church is just like FatAl, >>>> say one thing and do another......hypocrisy in it's highest form i said in my commentary more than 30 men with dresses on that stage set wasn't enough to make this union holy and IMO, it was a disgusting farce, i'm glad the media is at least paying attention. sorry if i offend, i don't mean to attack the faith only the corrupt institution.
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Post by mrplowfan on Jul 5, 2011 9:11:44 GMT -5
The vatican has to take them at their word. They "say" they are penitent and that she is living at Roc Agel and he at the Palace. They "say" she converted, etc. It was up to Barsi to prove that wrong or inform the Pope otherwise. I suspect his own quest for fame got the better of him. No other Catholic weddings are allowed outdoors. My niece even went to the Bishop here. I feel like writing that same Bishop and asking what the difference is between the Paupers and the Princes.
As for the sacred College, I'm guessing they mean the Cardinal's College. If I'm not mistaken, Barsi ranks as Monaco's Cardinal even though he doesn't hold the title. Therefore it would have been inappropriate for any other Cardinal to attend. Barsi reports directly to the Pope, right?
As a Catholic, I blame Barsi for this "farsi"
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Post by margarita on Jul 5, 2011 9:20:24 GMT -5
OMG, didn't we say soon after he wedding the Charlene love fest and this fairy tale love story will cease. Little did we know how soon. The irony (more like due justice) all happened because of Conlene's insatiable appetite for attention and to always show Albert that she is not a gold digger and she is willing to give up everything that she had - hence her one way ticket and trip to the Nice airport. I would have loved to see her performance with Albert when she had her tantrum tantrum and fake surprise of knowing he fooled around and then the packing of the bags - which she probably did in a dramatic way also. Of course is she playing the victim now -regardless to the tremendous damage she is doing to Albert and Monaco's image (she was supposted to boost ) - BUT it all backfires : there is no reason to be a little proud of any huge amount of money which reportedly was paid her to stay. She revealed herself as the gold digger she is and the business deal behind this marriage ;D So ... her image in the eyes of the world will be much worse than Alberts who "just" fooled around. I don't want to justify Alberts fooling around but in the end of the day many people will be like "he is just a man" . While CW is a woman (if these rumors are true) who negotiated about money when she found it out AND went through the ceremonies. While every woman with dignity who is able to love and not calculate would have packed no matter how much was offered. (Something tells me that eventually CW signed a contract BEFORE Alberts PR-team began to promote her as new Flagship. They have put about 70 Mio. in promoting that person and "Fairy tale wedding"! All that time and effort to prepare the three days "Fairy tale wedding image event" and promote Charlene Wittstock. ... so what if the investment object decides to -simply leave Monaco for whatever reason? IMO it is quite possible the Palace needed some pledge before paying that money - and because Charlene has nothing to offer except of herself she "sold" herself promising to go through the wedding. So the mysterious contract Albert (or the Palace) showed her when she tried to escape via S.A. embassy (if true - why not) ... would make sense to exist.)
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Post by countess on Jul 5, 2011 9:25:25 GMT -5
WHAT no photo op of them walking from the palace to a helicopter to leave on their honeymoon? did he miss that chapter in the willKat handbook?
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Post by margarita on Jul 5, 2011 10:20:43 GMT -5
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Post by countess on Jul 5, 2011 10:30:44 GMT -5
WHOA creepy bunte guy needs to get to work spinning....i thought germans loved her???
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Post by margarita on Jul 5, 2011 10:36:45 GMT -5
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Post by margarita on Jul 5, 2011 10:48:09 GMT -5
WHOA creepy bunte guy needs to get to work spinning....i thought germans loved her??? Among very few articles reporting about the wedding without mentioning the rumors directly is BUNTE redacteur Riekel who praises CW for not showing too many emotions. 85% (and: even BILD!!! which set signs for others to follow ) is just like these links! They smell the business treaty behind the fairy tale fassade and as we predicted ... start to do homeworks and listen to other voices but Palace-PR. Now that international "serious" media catch it up and don't stop ... the gates are open... My guess: Instead of packing she was eager to get the title and more money and didn't think her "escape" attempts might become public and get catched up so much. It was CW who used the media from the very start ... now it went out of control and the wedding-event will be forever linked to the "bought bride" - no matter what Palace PR does now ;D (And ;D so far it was "their" PR-team - now someone might remember that it is more important to do damage control on Alberts and Monaco's image - not Charlene's.)
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Post by smt on Jul 5, 2011 10:48:33 GMT -5
I can't imagine a deal for 5 years ... that would mean that an heir would most likely be born ... technically, you really never get rid of Trampolina. She may be divorced from the child's father but she will ALWAYS be the child's mother.
I suspect (and, of course, hoping) for a six month deal ... that way he could get it annuled in the eyes of the church and hope to find another sucker to marry. She gets tons of $$$ and the ability to "re-claim" some sort of dignity after being victimized by The Cad.
Let's all start a novena that they both go and Caroline ascends to the throne of Monaco!
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