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Post by royalpauper on Aug 3, 2011 22:38:39 GMT -5
I am sorry, but I just can't get over how stupid Albert is to come up with this moronic excuse...and to actually say it to the media. Does he really think that ANYONE would buy that stupidity? EVERYONE who knows WC had said that she has a very sharp tongue and doesn't let anyone push her around. Now Albert wants us to believe that when the captain of his friend's yacht didn't recognize WC and refused her to get on the yacht, WC just turned around AND LEFT?! Lets say that it was extremely dark that night AND there were no lights around the yacht AND the captain couldn't see well AND he couldn't recognize her ....wouldn't be normal (actually expected) that WC would have politely just said something like; "Pardon me Sir, but I am Charlene Wittstock the future Princess of Monaco and my fiancee the Prince Albert of Monaco is already on the yacht waiting for me to join him." Instead Albert wants us to believe that when the captain told her that he don't recognize her and that yacht is ALREADY full , WC just said OK, turned around and left? ;D ;D ;D Yeah, right! IMO, the captain was ordered not to let her on the yacht in case she has guts to show up and tries to crash Albert's bachelor party. She is so gutsy, I could easily see her doing that!
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Post by paca on Aug 4, 2011 5:05:39 GMT -5
Maybe those 30,000 people who bombarded the wedding exhibit stole it?? ;D actually MC doesget every year money from France. It is TVA that MC spent supposedly in France, by hiring French companies etc. There is some strange algorithm they are using to get to this number and each year there are negotiations about it. My believe is that they tried to camouflage some of the wedding costs by claiming they received less from France then in previous years. But even deducting the TVA from the companies which left MC they still have a hole of 30 mill. What bothers me is that the government is claiming TVA which should actually go to the companies who spent it. As a non EU resident you can claim your TVA at the airport. Companies in MC should be doing it for themselves as it is their money that has been spent and it is per law their right to claim that money. MC would be bankrupt if it had to rely on the TVA that they receive. Also normally tourist staying in MC would be allowed to claim their TVA as well As the TVA is the main income of MC and this comes mostly from French government coffers, you cannot say that MC is an independent state. In any case my personal opinion is that the 50 Mill they can not account for is money they took to pay for the wedding and they are trying to hide this fact from the Monegasques. Hence they do not answer to questions of the opposition. I bet they come up with some obscure maths to explain the stolen money. In any case France should really review if they want to continue to pay for MC., especially since now French children are no longer admitted in MC schools if they do not reside in MC. And also: why is France paying MC? what is the interest?
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Post by paca on Aug 4, 2011 5:30:46 GMT -5
I am sorry, but I just can't get over how stupid Albert is to come up with this moronic excuse...and to actually say it to the media. Does he really think that ANYONE would buy that stupidity? EVERYONE who knows WC had said that she has a very sharp tongue and doesn't let anyone push her around. Now Albert wants us to believe that when the captain of his friend's yacht didn't recognize WC and refused her to get on the yacht, WC just turned around AND LEFT?! Lets say that it was extremely dark that night AND there were no lights around the yacht AND the captain couldn't see well AND he couldn't recognize her ....wouldn't be normal (actually expected) that WC would have politely just said something like; "Pardon me Sir, but I am Charlene Wittstock the future Princess of Monaco and my fiancee the Prince Albert of Monaco is already on the yacht waiting for me to join him." Instead Albert wants us to believe that when the captain told her that he don't recognize her and that yacht is ALREADY full , WC just said OK, turned around and left? ;D ;D ;D Yeah, right! IMO, the captain was ordered not to let her on the yacht in case she has guts to show up and tries to crash Albert's bachelor party. She is so gutsy, I could easily see her doing that! not mentioning that she doesn't go alone to these things but with bodyguards, and if they did not recognize her, everyone recognizes the guard rapprocher du prince in MC and if not, then they have ID to show. He is trying to make out that trashy was refused entrance and that she was too well bred to cause a stir and use her privileges. If that was the case, then how did it get noticed by anyone to begin with and why would anyone think that she made a run to the airport after this? A row yes, but beyond that? Rumours only work if they are credible. If they are not credible, they are not going very far. I also think that the captain was told to not let her in. He would risk to lose his job, offending VIPs. They probably had a row before about sth, ALbert went ahead and she came after him. And when she wasn't allowed on board, she made sure to get her picture out on her own. We did notice that at the GP.
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Post by paca on Aug 4, 2011 5:38:56 GMT -5
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Post by royalpauper on Aug 4, 2011 10:39:10 GMT -5
It really doesn't matter to me what kind of party Albert attended that night on his friend's yacht. The fact is that WC was not let in/on, which was confirmed by idiot Albert. It seems like he wanted to have some good time for a change and that meant no WC around. That might be a reason why WC was so upset and moody during the GP. The fact that Albert showed her he has no intention to change his lifestyle and/or his habits just a couple of weeks before the wedding could have been a good reason for her to trow a tantrum and try to give him a lesson by faking to run back to SA.
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Post by paca on Aug 4, 2011 11:06:12 GMT -5
LOL sounds a bit like Charles doesn't it? So when will trashy start throwing herself down stairs and the likes? It didn't work then and it won't work now. At least her family understood that and decided to take as much of his money as they can get their hands on, plus having one of them always close by to make sure that trashy sticks around to keep the cash coming in. Gosh, one would think that rainier was clairvoyant when he changed the constitution and his property to protect it from greedy grubby fingers. I wonder though if he ever imagined that ALbert would not only get a gold digging wife but also gold digging inlaws and half a country to go with that....
And yes you are right it is not relevant which party he went to. I just wanted to point to whatever incident he was alluding. Even if it is completely fabricated.
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Post by Elektra on Aug 4, 2011 11:26:57 GMT -5
Re: WC not let in/on an event.
The more PA talks and reveals the more I wonder what kind of communication is between the two of them. If he did not want her around at that time he should have made that clear to her and if he wanted her around he should have made that clear to the boat people - that she is coming later - to let her on.
Unless of course WC knew she wasn't wanted and showed up anyway just to annoy PA.
Those people are so strange. I hope they keep on telling bits and pieces about their weird ways of living. It is hilarious for outsiders like us. Slapstick and telenovela!
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Post by paca on Aug 4, 2011 11:55:29 GMT -5
I really would love to have their problems for 10 minutes. Just to be able to relax a bit...
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Post by lilae on Aug 4, 2011 13:41:00 GMT -5
[not mentioning that she doesn't go alone to these things but with bodyguards, and if they did not recognize her, everyone recognizes the guard rapprocher du prince in MC and if not, then they have ID to show. He is trying to make out that trashy was refused entrance and that she was too well bred to cause a stir and use her privileges. If that was the case, then how did it get noticed by anyone to begin with and why would anyone think that she made a run to the airport after this? A row yes, but beyond that? Rumours only work if they are credible. If they are not credible, they are not going very far. . paca, you're right. A lot of people recognize bodyguards here. They "play" to be bodyguards. I don't beleive any word of this story about refused entrance.
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Post by scout on Aug 4, 2011 17:36:46 GMT -5
Albert is trying to prove a 'negative', i.e., that Charlene did NOT try to flee Europe and the wedding and head home to South Africa. It is normally very hard to prove a negative, especially when he doesn't even know the date and time that l'Express is talking about. They were very careful in what they put in their article. Most strategically thinking people would not have tried to prove that Charlene did not do something; they would just deny it quickly and then let the whole thing drop. Albert in trying to prove a 'negative' is telling more than he should. For instance, my husband would not go to an event without me and then tell me to get there on my own and find him somewhere in the party. He might go ahead, but I would text him when I arrived and he would come out to the parking lot and get me. Either he told the captain to not let her on or he really didn't care if she showed up which shows how little respect he has for his wife. Further, it is telling that we have this big interview about l'Express and Eringer and then Albert does not want to explain in detail about the missing funds? Something that directly affects his citizens. This tells us where his priorities are as head of state; and it's certainly not with improving the citizen's lives, but in not looking a fool because he married a con artist. How reassuring he is. MyaDia, you asked earlier why Charlene choose to say nothing during the interview when something had been prepared for her to say. Maybe she has been reading our forum and took our advice to just shut up.
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Post by hibou on Aug 4, 2011 18:29:33 GMT -5
Albert is trying to prove a 'negative', i.e., that Charlene did NOT try to flee Europe and the wedding and head home to South Africa. It is normally very hard to prove a negative, especially when he doesn't even know the date and time that l'Express is talking about. They were very careful in what they put in their article. Most strategically thinking people would not have tried to prove that Charlene did not do something; they would just deny it quickly and then let the whole thing drop. Albert in trying to prove a 'negative' is telling more than he should. For instance, my husband would not go to an event without me and then tell me to get there on my own and find him somewhere in the party. He might go ahead, but I would text him when I arrived and he would come out to the parking lot and get me. Either he told the captain to not let her on or he really didn't care if she showed up which shows how little respect he has for his wife. Further, it is telling that we have this big interview about l'Express and Eringer and then Albert does not want to explain in detail about the missing funds? Something that directly affects his citizens. This tells us where his priorities are as head of state; and it's certainly not with improving the citizen's lives, but in not looking a fool because he married a con artist. How reassuring he is. MyaDia, you asked earlier why Charlene choose to say nothing during the interview when something had been prepared for her to say. Maybe she has been reading our forum and took our advice to just shut up. Good post! You are right, most husbands at a party like that would go to meet their wives. Mine would too. If his PR had half a pea for a brain they would have done this interview right after the L'Express article came out and that would have pretty much ended it. The rest of the press ran with the story because they know L'Express does it's homework before they publish anything. Charlene not saying a word sounds like she pretty much hung Albert by his own words. She is very very street smart, as is the rest of her family. Albert is in over his head with this family. JMO
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Post by paca on Aug 5, 2011 5:15:06 GMT -5
The rest of the press ran with it because there was an official dementi. Before it was only tidbits on agencies and only quoting the l'express article which didn't even give them much to run with. The dementi started the avalanche of press. The first articles posted here, apart from links to Eringer, were links that reported the dementi of the palace royalopinions.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=couple&action=display&thread=312&page=2 The article did not give food to the wildfire, the palace did. I have said from the beginning that a dementi was the silliest thing to do. They have done it before and it backfired, they didn't learn and the same thing happened all over. Albert and his staff are incapable of learning from past mistakes. That as well is reason enough that none of them ought to be in charge of any power in Monaco. As to trashy not speaking, she did not say anything IMO because she was not supposed to say anything. Albert was to come off as a white knight rescuing and defending his new wife. He points out that he is used to it, but she isn't and he wanted to protect her. He didn't want to dry her tears though at the wedding. He has been called cold and heartless. That's not how he wants to be seen. Also if she would have said anything, she might have been confronted with questions. I don't think they wanted that. I believe whatever statement she had prepared, was never intended to be used.
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Post by cm7007 on Aug 5, 2011 5:51:13 GMT -5
He's always hiding behind the excuse of "Protecting them from the press!" etc. He uses that excuse to explain why he doesn't include his children, his "serious" girlfriends - when he was single - whenever he needs a good excuse! And it was a good excuse to use on girls - he kept them hidden with his excuse that he was protecting them. This way he was able to "get away" with so much more crap! Please. It's so old. That and his "Protocol" excuse. He uses that one to intimidate people who really don't know what is or is not considered proper protocol - he used it on Charlene when they were dating - he uses it on her family to keep them in line. Sooner or later everyone figures it out. Rainier used it on Grace when they were first married and she didn't really know Monaco or what to expect. It can be intimidating if you don't know any better. It's BS.
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Post by paca on Aug 5, 2011 6:50:11 GMT -5
LOL of course it is, but that's why he only ever got to go out with bimbos. A smart woman would say show me the protocol. ANd then show me when you ever behaved according to it. I once had a Turkish bf who did not want his parents to know that he was dating without being married. So when we were out in public he would suddenly disappear when he thought he saw his parents or someone who knew them. It was really annoying and it does get to you, when you are being hidden. Once we did get into a fight and he decided to simply disappear. So I went to his parents place, introduced myself as his gf and asked to talk to him. His mother was really nice to me. I don't know what he had expected to happen, but his mother was actually relieved to know that her son was not gay ;D IMO a lot of these things are more in the mind of people then anything else. We know how many paparazzi are running after trashy. And those only when she calls and pays in advance. I do think though that Albert would love to be seen by others as a knight in shining armor. The savior of Monaco and all those in need of help. He just doesn't want to do anything for it.
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Post by countess on Aug 5, 2011 9:17:35 GMT -5
Albert is in over his head with this familyFAtAl is so stupid he's over his head with my 9 year old niece. raking up rumors, trying to prove a negative, lie after lie after lie, he's got some payback coming and i hope it's ugly as trashlenes face. to be honest i log on every morning now to see is HUBRIS has caught up with them yet. no really, it used to be about amusement and what antics they'd come up with at events, now it's more "have they got what's coming yet". Terrible i know but it's how i feel, it's a fine balance between hate and loathing and just pure D boredom.
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Post by cm7007 on Aug 5, 2011 14:11:30 GMT -5
Albert is in over his head with this familyFAtAl is so stupid he's over his head with my 9 year old niece. raking up rumors, trying to prove a negative, lie after lie after lie, he's got some payback coming and i hope it's ugly as trashlenes face. to be honest i log on every morning now to see is HUBRIS has caught up with them yet. no really, it used to be about amusement and what antics they'd come up with at events, now it's more "have they got what's coming yet". Terrible i know but it's how i feel, it's a fine balance between hate and loathing and just pure D boredom. My sentiments exactly. It's getting harder and harder to read all of this drivel that's pouring out of them! And drivel it is! Just horrendous!
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Post by blue j on Aug 6, 2011 21:40:53 GMT -5
When I logged in to RO yesterday I saw a heading on the top of the board announcing something about the boat accident that Albert was denying. I can't find where it is discussed in RO. Guys, could to direct me where it is discussed?
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Post by mrszinck on Aug 7, 2011 1:25:37 GMT -5
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Post by paca on Aug 7, 2011 5:41:06 GMT -5
I think this really is an entertaining article. It actually states that the topic of the red cross was indeed the marriage and the press service has actually placed the gossip columinists as far away from the princely table as they possibly could....and they also say that they were not amused. Apparently they were also excluded from the raffle. I don't know if that has always been the case, but MC matin finds it important to note. This article underlines IMO though that the entire Red Cross was staged and everyone had gotten their role. www.monacomatin.mc/article/derniere-minute-monaco/gala-de-la-croix-rouge-a-monaco-la-mariee-etait-en-roseThe other article in MC matin is still not accessible. Makes you wonder why. Guess it didn't pass the palace censorship
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Post by mrszinck on Aug 7, 2011 9:53:30 GMT -5
Thanks paca, I've found it in the Red Cross section...
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