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Post by dolcevita on Aug 12, 2011 20:06:31 GMT -5
I agree scout! Albert is only playing the part for now... a leopard can't change his spots! I think now it's all about cleanup time. She probably thought once she got the ring and press attention that she was his only one... his princess. BUT he did the ultimate... not only cheated, but got another woman pregnant (i'm pretty sure those tests came back positive and he had to write a big old check for silence)... Now, she realizes that she won and has gotten the keys by looking like poor, poor Princess Charles... everyone is pitying her. She's using that power and attention to make her demands... no baby mamas... probably no babies either. Albert has to go see them in secret... She'll pop out a couple of kids and the two will lead very separate lives. The only thing she hasn't been able to do is win over Monaco people yet. That pity stuff doesn't work there cause it's a small place and she's been schlepping around as his kept woman for so many years... No one is enamored or excited about her cause she ain't nothing new or shiny... Those new clothes and face don't mean a thing to them. She has no mystery... nothing for them to envy or pity... She just... is there...
Plus, after all this nonsense, how can she just show her face to the other royals? Uggh... it's like, "there go those trashy HSHers... Only Caroline is half-way decent... Of course she did get herself an HRH." That must be some seriously awesome gossip going around in the royal family circles about these two... They're like the Beverly Hillbillies of the royal worlk!!
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Post by blue j on Aug 13, 2011 16:00:31 GMT -5
I can't stand Charlene but I'm gonna to give her a credit for not letting Nicole to be at Red Cross Ball. Albert is an idiot, he shouldn't let Nicole last year. Nicole came last year for purpose, to remind about herself and annoy Charlene and embarrass stupid Albert. Charlie is a bitch-true, but Nicole is a crazy nuts, obsessed with Albert. IMO: any wife should do the same, if I were Albert's wife or even fiance I'd be demanding Nicole be out of Monaco completely. But, hey, Charlie is a bitch and Nicole is insane bitch, they'll go fighting & it will be so entertaining.
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Post by blue j on Aug 13, 2011 16:19:12 GMT -5
In a way I can kinda understand her reasoning behind blocking Nicole from the festivites but on the other hand, she IS his baby mama. They will always have a bond and relationship because of Alexandre. Unfortunately, there seems to be some insecurities on Charlene's part but when u marry someone who has random broads who have his children, things like this are bound to happen. It can only get worse from here on out....sorry Welcome Lenaya! I definitely believe that Nicole should stay her stalking ass away from Monaco. My main issue is Charlene's con artists behavior about this. From the article, it seems that Nicole has attended other balls - with Albert's permission. But, Charlene didn't throw her weight around until AFTER she got the title. This is what con artist do - the play he part until they get what they want, then their true nature starts to show. Nicole is only one of many the Princess of Monaco will seek her revenge, wrath or throw her weight against. My other issue is how the media has treated Charlene is if she is some angelic saint when she is not! I don't think that Nicole attended any ball with Albert's permission. He is just a sorry a** who didn't have guts to say no, but I'm sure he found her presence humiliating & embarrassing. I think we would be more sympathetic to princess of Monaco re: Nicole if it was someone else that WC. If the princess of MC were some nice, decent female, who truly loves Albert, I think most posters would support her in not allowing Nicole. But, hey, I agree with you that WC would get rid off anyone near Albert who is on her way. it means that she would get rid off some good, decent people who may be real Albert's friends but who know the true Charlene and refuse to lick her a**.
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Post by MyAdia on Aug 14, 2011 7:14:19 GMT -5
I can't stand Charlene but I'm gonna to give her a credit for not letting Nicole to be at Red Cross Ball. Albert is an idiot, he shouldn't let Nicole last year. Nicole came last year for purpose, to remind about herself and annoy Charlene and embarrass stupid Albert. Charlie is a bitch-true, but Nicole is a crazy nuts, obsessed with Albert. IMO: any wife should do the same, if I were Albert's wife or even fiance I'd be demanding Nicole be out of Monaco completely. But, hey, Charlie is a bitch and Nicole is insane bitch, they'll go fighting & it will be so entertaining. Actually, if Albert was a decent man, his wife wouldn't have to tell him to not have the Nicoles of his life stalking every event that he attends. If Albert was a decent man, Charlene would have never had to put her foot down - Albert would have put his foot down! It's the timing of Charlene's action that shows her the con artist that she is - not the action itself. Why didn't she strike Nicole from the guest last year - or any other time Nicole attended an event in Monaco? Did she tell Albert privately last year and all the other years that Nicole shouldn't be hanging around Monaco trying to get her photo taken? I bet there are a lot of other people in Albert's life that Charlene will be putting her foot down that he no longer see - oh wait - she started doing that for some of his male friends soon after the engagement. Come on people, you must have ran across women like Charlene. They pretend to go along or like certain things that their boyfriends like - until they get the ring and the marriage papers. I once had a really good friend of mine tell me how he knew his marriage was doomed on their honey moon because his wife totally changed and starting giving him all these new rules. I had to clue him in that his wife didn't CHANGED - she just revealed to him her true self once she felt secured that she finally got him to the altar. Albert will be seeing the true BITCHstock. Diana did it with Charlene when she lied about liking hunting. Kate took a different route - she actually learned how to hunt i.e.e Kate just starting liking everything that William liked (not to say that is necessarily the route to go).
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Post by MyAdia on Aug 14, 2011 9:18:42 GMT -5
The full online Paris Match article is posted here. Thanks for the article Lady Michelle. However, the article just has one brief sentence relating to Nicole. It doesn't mention all the things about Nicole that was attributed to Paris Match in other articles posted in this thread. I wonder if Paris Match edited the online version or if others embellished their comments. Perhaps, the others provided comments from non-Paris Match sources. The one mention from Paris Match: Notable absence, that of Nicole Coste, the mother of Alexander, son Albert was recognized in 2005. This year, Princess Charlene has formally objected to his coming.
[Absence remarquée, celle de Nicole Coste, la mère d'Alexandre, fils qu'Albert a reconnu en 2005. Cette année, la princesse Charlène s'est formellement opposée à sa venue.]
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Post by MyAdia on Aug 14, 2011 16:30:26 GMT -5
Blogger Mad for Monaco's disparaging comments about Nicole's actions while he always anglicizes Charlene is a perfect example of the racial undertones I mentioned. What's really funny is this comment that he makes, "...the former flight attendant from Togo has a handful of very committed fans on the internet with a great deal of free time on their hands." . It's hilarious if you actually red this man's comments defending Charlene and this trashy relationship - he is stark raving MAD on TRF defending them and trying to close down ANY negative opinions. Notice the disparaging comments that he makes about Nicole, clearly he will have a heart attack if someone was to inform this royal ass-kisser that the same could be said about the high school dropout Charlene who latched onto her sugar daddy when she had NOTHING going for her. NOTHING! On his blog, he had a STARK RAVING MAD FIT when posters made negative comments about his sweet angelic goddess Charlene and initiated changes for posting comments. I normally don't read his blog becasue I will not waste my time on the fantasy dribble that he writes. but, this one came to my attention when douing a google seach on the Paris Match article.
Princess Charlene, Nicole and Gossip
Posted by MadMonarchist at 12:42 AM SUNDAY, AUGUST 14, 2011 I dislike even discussing these sorts of things but, as usual, there is no let up in the rumor mill regarding Princess Charlene. The latest rumor (from the usual anonymous sources -not worth a dime, keep that in mind) is that Princess Charlene has forbidden Prince Albert to have any contact with his past girlfriends. Of course, as with such gossip, you can take it for what it is worth (which isn’t much). I remain indifferent on the subject. I certainly would not object to Princess Charlene putting her foot down on this issue, they are a married couple now and different rules apply. A husband and wife have every right to want each other completely to themselves. Much of the tongue-wagging has focused on the absence of Nicole Coste (mother of the Prince’s natural son Alexandre) from the recent Red Cross ball which she had attended in the past. She certainly has not been bashful about being seen.
All of this may be completely untrue (and probably is I would think) but as I, or anyone else who runs a weblog, forum, chat room, message board or what have you on the subject of Monaco can tell you, the former flight attendant from Togo has a handful of very committed fans on the internet with a great deal of free time on their hands. Any time Nicole or Alexandre is mentioned they come out of the wood work to plead her cause, trash the Prince and the new Princess and to moan endlessly about little Alexandre as if he were some poor, victimized, neglected child in an uncaring world. Spare me the drama (and thanks to upgrading screening measures taken a few months ago I am), this is simply ridiculous and I will take this opportunity to explain exactly why.
Nicole does not have a very illustrious reputation and most of it began when the general public first learned she even existed, when she went public with her son, announcing to the media that Prince Albert was the father, mere days after the death of HSH Prince Rainier III when all of Monaco was still deep in mourning. Alexandre was born in 2003 and yet she said nothing until 2005 until there was a death in the family and all eyes were on Monaco to go public with her “revelation”. That did nothing to endear her to the general public from the very start. She has also been rather forward with herself, such as when she decided to go strolling through the streets of Monte Carlo the very day before Prince Albert and Princess Charlene were to be married. A rather odd time to visit the country to say the least. Neither was she some empty-headed girl who was taken advantage of by a dashing prince. She was a grown woman when they had their “relationship”, already divorced with two children. In short, she had been around the block and knew how the world worked. She has cashed-in big time because of her fling with the Prince, a fling she had to know would go nowhere. Finally, as to Alexandre himself, he is the one totally innocent party in all of this. His parents made the bad decisions and he has to live with the consequences. Everyone wishes the very best for him, I certainly do and I have never come across anyone who does not. What I will not do is feel sorry for him. This may come as a surprise to some people but, in the grand scheme of the history of the Grimaldi dynasty, Alexandre is nothing special. Illegitimate children are nothing new, in fact they have been rather common. None ever became princes of Monaco, nor did any ever expect to be, though some certainly rose to positions of great importance in the principality. This was the case in royal houses all across Europe. Alexandre is not unique in being the natural son of a prince, nor is he being treated any better or any worse than any other. He is not a child to feel sorry for. He is very well cared for, can do and become anything he likes and he will never have to work a day in his life if he doesn’t choose to. Just because he may not see his father as often as some people think he should (and rest assured these people have no idea how often the Prince sees Alexandre) that is nothing to moan and groan about. Feel sorry for children who have no parents or who have abusive parents, who are sick or starving. Do not feel sorry for Alexandre. He is better off than the vast majority of children on this planet, he wants for nothing and he has the world at his feet. He’s a good kid and can live whatever sort of life he chooses.
Now, let’s move on shall we…
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Post by emmeline on Aug 14, 2011 16:41:46 GMT -5
Oh, this guy surely, and I MEAN SURELY posts in TRF... This:
"Any time Nicole or Alexandre is mentioned they come out of the wood work to plead her cause, trash the Prince and the new Princess and to moan endlessly about little Alexandre as if he were some poor, victimized, neglected child in an uncaring world"
is the exact comment i've read yesterday in TRF, defending Charlene and Albert.
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Post by cstone on Aug 16, 2011 21:37:10 GMT -5
imo charlene should have allow nicole to attend the ball...if she and albert are truly in a stable relationship and if that relationship is built on trust then why care- allow her and the other ladies to attend.i would go a step further and have them over for tea and all the lil kids could have a play date. then maybe albert would be so embarassed over his behavior he would stay his butt home unstead of running around
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Post by sandsla on Aug 17, 2011 13:59:06 GMT -5
Oh, this guy surely, and I MEAN SURELY posts in TRF... This: "Any time Nicole or Alexandre is mentioned they come out of the wood work to plead her cause, trash the Prince and the new Princess and to moan endlessly about little Alexandre as if he were some poor, victimized, neglected child in an uncaring world"is the exact comment i've read yesterday in TRF, defending Charlene and Albert. Oh yes he does! Even if no one wants to believe me! ;D The "lets move on" is very telling, that said, I agree with every word of it! I totally agree with Blue J here. I actually wrote a big postin reply, but I either saved it or lost it.
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Post by sandsla on Aug 18, 2011 0:23:00 GMT -5
I can't stand Charlene but I'm gonna to give her a credit for not letting Nicole to be at Red Cross Ball. Albert is an idiot, he shouldn't let Nicole last year. Nicole came last year for purpose, to remind about herself and annoy Charlene and embarrass stupid Albert. Charlie is a bitch-true, but Nicole is a crazy nuts, obsessed with Albert. IMO: any wife should do the same, if I were Albert's wife or even fiance I'd be demanding Nicole be out of Monaco completely. But, hey, Charlie is a bitch and Nicole is insane bitch, they'll go fighting & it will be so entertaining. Actually, if Albert was a decent man, his wife wouldn't have to tell him to not have the Nicoles of his life stalking every event that he attends. If Albert was a decent man, Charlene would have never had to put her foot down - Albert would have put his foot down! It's the timing of Charlene's action that shows her the con artist that she is - not the action itself. Why didn't she strike Nicole from the guest last year - or any other time Nicole attended an event in Monaco? Did she tell Albert privately last year and all the other years that Nicole shouldn't be hanging around Monaco trying to get her photo taken? I bet there are a lot of other people in Albert's life that Charlene will be putting her foot down that he no longer see - oh wait - she started doing that for some of his male friends soon after the engagement. Come on people, you must have ran across women like Charlene. They pretend to go along or like certain things that their boyfriends like - until they get the ring and the marriage papers. I once had a really good friend of mine tell me how he knew his marriage was doomed on their honey moon because his wife totally changed and starting giving him all these new rules. I had to clue him in that his wife didn't CHANGED - she just revealed to him her true self once she felt secured that she finally got him to the altar. Albert will be seeing the true BITCHstock. Diana did it with Charlene when she lied about liking hunting. Kate took a different route - she actually learned how to hunt i.e.e Kate just starting liking everything that William liked (not to say that is necessarily the route to go). Myadia I totally agree and I written several posts in this thread that I keep losing , another big post earlier today that I completely lost! I'm upgrading my laptop, and I'm witing on another one that I'm not use to and I changed out the hard drive to a SSD and it keeps crashing on me! I also have saved a few posts to draft because I was just too tired to go back through and edit them at the time. The post earlier today was in response to my earlier post above. I didn't know this guy had a blog, but I bet he is on the palace payroll--it sounds like Albert could have written it. I agree with what the guy said about Nicole, but that doesn't excuse Charlene who is no different. I totally agree with your post there--I don't know why they are whining about Nicole at this time, when Albert was the one who set her up there and made it possible for her to cause trouble for him--he has never reigned her in when he could have. He knows who she is on these forums and that she is also behind that terrible website that is exploiting his son and Monaco, but he lets it stay up. Charlene is Albert's biggest problem now, and has always been a much worse problem for him than Nicole ended up being, publicly anyway, because someone like his father was not stupid enough to let Albert advertise his private relationship with her, like Albert did with Charlene. Albert was willing to date Nicole knowing she was married--maybe he should have asked himself just how much integrity this woman had, since she also had two children while she was chasing Albert around....what did he expect from a woman like this? And since Albert is also willing to date a married woman, he not only has the same level of integrity, but he should know what kind of pandora's box he is opening up when he has affairs with these kind of women that do not have a whole lot of scruples....these are the women he is willing to unleash and allow into his life! I totally agree that it should not take a wife of Albert's to get Nicole out of there. I have posted about this for years! I would get these women out of town too if it were me, but I would probably not be dating a man that I had to tell that he should not let his booty call that got pregnant to inject herself into his life and that caused him so much trouble by going to the press--you should not have to tell a man that he needs to remove this woman from his life. He should have done that immediately for his own sake to just protect his own dignity. Albert and his advisers should have had enough sense to know that Albert needed to disassociate himself from this women long ago, especially after all she pulled! Albert and his advisesr should have done it just to protect his own reputation and Monaco's, no matter who Albert was dating if at all. Nicole was not just someone's old girlfriend, she was a basically a booty call that stalked him even then. After she managed to get herself pregnant by Albert, and after she tried to ambush him in the press, along with everything else she has pulled, and after all the damage she has done to Albert, he for some insane reason thinks it is a good idea to move this woman to the South of France down the street from him? I could not believe this then we he did it, and then to not ban this woman from Monaco, or to not have some kind of restraining order against her in the first place when she certainly gave him every reason to. I really could not believe Albert would allow her to float around Monaco all these years, and then when she actually started attending events Albert would be at IN MONACO And then the biggest Ball of the year that he is sponsering, and at the time of his engagement , seriously how stupid can someone be...or want to appear? Seriously what did Albert expect after all his experience with her? Nicole wants to pretend to be something like an exwife who shared and experienced raising kids together, and shared that choice. That is exacty the angle she has tried to present the relationship of being, when she got pregnant long after Albert said he did not want her in his life, certainly not on those terms. It is not just a matter of how disrepectful it is to a woman that Albert is supposingly dating, but Nicole is a crazy disturbed women that tried to change the course of Albert's life for her own benefit, and at a great cost to Albert, without an ounce of conscience! Albert just having all his old girlfriends hanging around town, not only makes him look like a cad, but also very ignorant--it does not make Albert look like a very smart or respectful man to have every women he has dated still hanging around him and under a girlfriend's nose! The fact that he is financially supporting some or all of these women in some way that are hanging around does not make it any better and I''m talking about Charlene here too! That is why Charlene wouldn't or couldn't do anything about it! She was living off of Albert and collecting checks for her bank account (She is an employee), plus she was willing to put up with anything to get that title.[/b] Why Albert would not want to disassociate himself from his past that one would think should cause him some embarrassment is beyond me? Look at the women he married? How can anyone make any sense out of this man's mind. The fact is there is not a bit of difference between the two women in terms of integrity and the trouble they are willing to cause Albert for their own benefit, and the self serving level they are willing to go to, to get what they want. Really the only difference is that Rainier wasn't here to prevent his son and Charlene from making a mockery of Monaco, because he didn't give either the opportunity. Charlene would not only have tried to pull the same stunt as Nicole (if she hadn't seen that it didn't get the other women the title and money she coveted), but she actually threatened to do it if Albert did not marry her. When Charlene thought she was defeated in her quest, this would have been her last resort, if she could have figured out away to get pregnant by Albert. The only difference between the two is opportunity! Charlene herself as admitted this in her posts when she was posting on the monaco red forums. Charlene has really done so much more damage to Albert's reputation and that of Monaco's than Nicole was ever able to do. Rainier was just smart enough to keep Albert from sharing his private life with the world at the time, so Nicol did not have the same kind of opportunity that Albert gave Charlene. Rainier recognized both Nicole and Charlene for what they were, and that is why they never made big strides in Albert's life before--Rainier did not tolerate either girl in Monaco.
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