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Post by refia on Jul 9, 2012 11:52:06 GMT -5
Did I missed something or since when is she the Princess of South Africa?
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Post by paca on Jul 9, 2012 12:11:22 GMT -5
ROFL didn't it originally say in the SA papers that they would be staying end of June, which is when they were actually there? But of course there was no way they could train, but bimbo wouldn't know that as she only sets foot in the pool once a year. So now they have to come back when the pool is actually closed. Usually they change the water during that time and turn the heating off. I wonder where they went after the mare nostrum. Did they go back to SA? Or did they stay in Europe trying to train somewhere?
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Post by paca on Jul 9, 2012 12:13:42 GMT -5
Did I missed something or since when is she the Princess of South Africa? LOL she certainly isn't the princess of MC. and queen bee of La Turbie is not enough. Her main aim is to be known in SA anyways to get back at everyone who hurt her ego as she grew up. Getting back is the theme of her life thus far... hopefully i will be going back very soon....
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Post by MyAdia on Jul 9, 2012 12:25:29 GMT -5
ROFL didn't it originally say in the SA papers that they would be staying end of June, which is when they were actually there? But of course there was no way they could train, but bimbo wouldn't know that as she only sets foot in the pool once a year. So now they have to come back when the pool is actually closed. Usually they change the water during that time and turn the heating off. I wonder where they went after the mare nostrum. Did they go back to SA? Or did they stay in Europe trying to train somewhere? Paca, if you follow the SA Swim Team's coach Graham Hill tweets, you will see where they swam. After Monaco they have been competing and training at other places. He mentioned in one of his tweet that they were on their way back to Monaco. They had always planned on being in Monaco during that this time, but I gathered Charlene didn't let on to everyone the full details until now. Again, I never had a problem with Charlene helping out swimmers. That is the least she could do since they all kept quiet as she spun her lies about training for the Beijing Olympics and qualifying for the Beijing Olympics - which she boldly placed on her resume on the palace website. She owes them in helping with her scams. My problem is that she is using money that others gave her to assist in her foundation.
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Post by paca on Jul 9, 2012 13:52:55 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with her supporting swimmers, I do have a problem that she is upporting these swimmers. They receive government funding, have sponsors etc. They have no need for the money from her foundation. If she needs to pay off Hill for keeping mum then she needs to pay it as she always pay: with Alberts money. If she supported younger kids, especially coloured kids, then it would be sth different. Have you noticed that there is not a single black swimmer in an African swim team? And they are claiming they have stopped apartheid? Are they seriously trying to convince people that black people can't swim on an athletic level? Really? Or do they just not bother enough to teach those how to swim who are the large majority of the population? Still IMO her foremost interest would have to be to support athletes from MC and not competitors of them. I really want to know which other spouse of a head of state supports financially a different countries Olympic team... really. Doesn't that bother anyone?
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Post by axelle on Jul 9, 2012 21:55:42 GMT -5
It is a strange arrangement - a foundation should be about helping disadvantaged or abused kids.
A swimming team for the Olympics is an entirely different kettle of fish.
Exactly it seems like mis appropriation of funds - people donate for one thing then the money gets used for something else. Raises a question of accountability. Just as MyAdia mentioned too...
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Post by paca on Jul 10, 2012 5:26:16 GMT -5
the problem with all MC charities is that they are not accountable. And everyone knows that. YOu give money, because you want sth in return, not because you want to do good. WHo in MC will go public and say the prince or the princesses are detourning money for private use? They use the money for what they want and if that is a new dress or jewellery for trashy or a pay off for her coach then there is nothing anyone in MC can or will do about it. The only time you would hear sth is if one of their minions had the hand in the till. Apart from that these things are kept under wraps. And that is why anyone who really wants to do good with their money is better advised to put it elsewhere. I would not trust a single charity in MC, but especially not the ones that are associated with any Grimaldi.
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Post by axelle on Jul 10, 2012 9:21:14 GMT -5
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Post by agentf on Jul 10, 2012 12:26:59 GMT -5
Perhaps with the exception of Stephanie's? It seems her Maison de Vie is undeniable proof of where money goes, even if she chose to have it elsewhere. the problem with all MC charities is that they are not accountable. And everyone knows that. YOu give money, because you want sth in return, not because you want to do good. WHo in MC will go public and say the prince or the princesses are detourning money for private use? They use the money for what they want and if that is a new dress or jewellery for trashy or a pay off for her coach then there is nothing anyone in MC can or will do about it. The only time you would hear sth is if one of their minions had the hand in the till. Apart from that these things are kept under wraps. And that is why anyone who really wants to do good with their money is better advised to put it elsewhere. I would not trust a single charity in MC, but especially not the ones that are associated with any Grimaldi.
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Post by agentf on Jul 10, 2012 12:29:12 GMT -5
Athletes of Monaco - of course!! What team does she play for?? You know, she's been so disloyal so far, isnt there somewhere a law about sedition or treason, and a comfy dungeon she could go to, with the sports network on her TV? I don't have a problem with her supporting swimmers, I do have a problem that she is upporting these swimmers. They receive government funding, have sponsors etc. They have no need for the money from her foundation. If she needs to pay off Hill for keeping mum then she needs to pay it as she always pay: with Alberts money. If she supported younger kids, especially coloured kids, then it would be sth different. Have you noticed that there is not a single black swimmer in an African swim team? And they are claiming they have stopped apartheid? Are they seriously trying to convince people that black people can't swim on an athletic level? Really? Or do they just not bother enough to teach those how to swim who are the large majority of the population? Still IMO her foremost interest would have to be to support athletes from MC and not competitors of them. I really want to know which other spouse of a head of state supports financially a different countries Olympic team... really. Doesn't that bother anyone?
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Post by paca on Jul 10, 2012 14:50:25 GMT -5
Perhaps with the exception of Stephanie's? It seems her Maison de Vie is undeniable proof of where money goes, even if she chose to have it elsewhere. the problem with all MC charities is that they are not accountable. And everyone knows that. YOu give money, because you want sth in return, not because you want to do good. WHo in MC will go public and say the prince or the princesses are detourning money for private use? They use the money for what they want and if that is a new dress or jewellery for trashy or a pay off for her coach then there is nothing anyone in MC can or will do about it. The only time you would hear sth is if one of their minions had the hand in the till. Apart from that these things are kept under wraps. And that is why anyone who really wants to do good with their money is better advised to put it elsewhere. I would not trust a single charity in MC, but especially not the ones that are associated with any Grimaldi. well, all these foundations have something they can show. Do you have any numbers of how much they received in donations over the 6 years until it finally opened, how much funding they received from the French government for having it and how much it eventually did cost? And how they are receiving in public funds to keep it going? No numbers are being published. Maybe she does use most of it for her projects, but she does have a lot of friends "working" for her.... I am sure trashys brother will be "working" in the trashy foundation too... and dad will get paid whever he throws a BBQ...mom will get paid when she gets a manicure etc...
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Post by MyAdia on Aug 2, 2012 7:29:26 GMT -5
Only in Monaco can you create a charitable foundation and have people donate money while not announcing a mission statement, a board of directors, a president, a staff, a logo nor any other defining feature or ANYTHING about the organization that will give confidence to its donors that the proceeds will be designated to the cause intended. Well, Charlene has been spinning her Princess Charlene Foundation as an organization to help "children and women in distress," when in reality the foundation has a totally different purpose. According to a report by David Isaacson of South Africa's Sunday Times, her foundation is building a high-performance sports centre to provide needy nations with the chance to develop their talent. Of course Charlene will throw some crumbs at some poor black African children and travel around the world taking photos with them (this is how she will get donors), but the bulk of the money will go to HER FRIENDS! Charlene has not announced anything about the governing body and function of the Princess Charlene Foundation, but she has already given out money - to her friends. I actually think it is a notable for someone from Charlene's background to want to help needy athletes - but then STATE that this as the mission of your foundation and let people donate accordingly. But, this is not the cause that Charlene and the palace has publicly stated as the purpose of the Princess Charlene foundation. Here's the palace December 2011 announcement about the Princes Charlene Foundation: Motivated from a very early age by a desire to help others, further reinforced by Her experience in South Africa, the Princess has chosen to orient Her efforts towards children and women in distress.
Her actions will be undertaken in the long term to satisfy specific needs on all five continents. Here's a comment from Charlene in her interview with Malte Biss about the purpose of her foundation: The newly established "Princess Charlene Foundation", which was presented on Friday in Monaco and the Duchess in "A Heart for Children" gala will be presented, "it makes itself the task of carrying sport, especially children and women a sense of responsibility, team spirit teach and discipline them for life and make them strong, "she says. Below is a lighthearted story about the South African swimmers stay in Monaco. However, the article mentions a fact about the purpose of Charlene's foundation that perhaps her donors don't know.
Topless temptation in Monaco
By DAVID ISAACSON of the Sunday Times (South Africa) July 29, 2012 Sunday
SOUTH African Olympic medal hopeful Chad le Clos considered stripping down to get the chance to drive a Mercedes convertible in Monaco this week.
The female owner of the car offered to let Le Clos and fellow swim-team member Leith Shankland drive it - on condition they washed the vehicle wearing only skimpy Speedos. Le Clos has already had the chance to drive an Aston Martin here and was seriously considering the proposition.
But life in this Cote d'Azur playground is not all plain sailing, as freestyle swimmer Wendy Trott found out after falling victim to an aerial mugger.
She had a sandwich plucked from her hands by a seagull while taking in the sights of Monte Carlo. "It was a very big seagull and clearly very experienced at what it was doing," said Trott.
The SA swimmers, who flew into London last Sunday, were in camp here as guests of the Princess Charlene Foundation, which is building a high-performance sports centre. The centre will, among other things, provide needy nations with the chance to develop their talent. The Princess of Monaco herself represented SA in swimming in the 2000 Olympics.
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Post by MyAdia on Aug 2, 2012 7:51:44 GMT -5
I will post this photo and the announcement here since the South African swimmers were sponsored by the Princess Charlene Foundation. IT seems that Tommy Hilfiger is one of the sponsor as donating clothes to the South African swimmers (I wonder if the Monaco athletes got designer clothes), so perhaps he is on the board of directors for her foundation. The French version of the announcement was posted on July 21st while the English version was posted on July 23, 2012.
July 23, 2012 Lunch with the South African swimmers H.S.H. Princess Charlène wished to have lunch with the South African swimmers selected for the London Olympics before they leave the Principality.
Mr Hilfiger, who assiduously keeps track of these top-level athletes' results and provided the sports clothes for their stay, also participated in this moment of conviviality at Stars'N'Bars.
After their arrival on 8 July, they were invited by the Princess to train in Monaco and take advantage of optimum conditions before their participation in the competition.
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Post by paca on Aug 2, 2012 8:20:07 GMT -5
Only in Monaco can you create a charitable foundation and have people donate money while not announcing a mission statement, a board of directors, a president, a staff, a logo nor any other defining feature or ANYTHING about the organization that will give confidence to its donors that the proceeds will be designated to the cause intended. Well, Charlene has been spinning her Princess Charlene Foundation as an organization to help "children and women in distress," when in reality the foundation has a totally different purpose. According to a report by David Isaacson of South Africa's Sunday Times, her foundation is building a high-performance sports centre to provide needy nations with the chance to develop their talent. Of course Charlene will throw some crumbs at some poor black African children and travel around the world taking photos with them (this is how she will get donors), but the bulk of the money will go to HER FRIENDS! Charlene has not announced anything about the governing body and function of the Princess Charlene Foundation, but she has already given out money - to her friends. I actually think it is a notable for someone from Charlene's background to want to help needy athletes - but then STATE that this as the mission of your foundation and let people donate accordingly. But, this is not the cause that Charlene and the palace has publicly stated as the purpose of the Princess Charlene foundation. Here's the palace December 2011 announcement about the Princes Charlene Foundation: well, that is catering to Albert. He has been dreaming and talking about that for many years. That was the motivation behind building the sports clinic which now is in dire straights. Albert always wanted to have high profile athletes flock to MC and train there. It's his greatest dream. He has been discussing that with his friends long before trashy came into the picture. Alberts dream is that there will be one day an Olympic medal for MC. I am surprised he hasn't recruited athletes from other countries by offering them citizenship and heaps of money....
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Post by MyAdia on Aug 2, 2012 8:28:40 GMT -5
well, that is catering to Albert. He has been dreaming and talking about that for many years. That was the motivation behind building the sports clinic which now is in dire straights. Albert always wanted to have high profile athletes flock to MC and train there. It's his greatest dream. He has been discussing that with his friends long before trashy came into the picture. Alberts dream is that there will be one day an Olympic medal for MC. I am surprised he hasn't recruited athletes from other countries by offering them citizenship and heaps of money.... Correct. One of the first interviews I read of Albert was with him discussing his plans for an Olympic Athletic training center. He always wanted this and there is nothing wrong with such a goal - just make it happen. However, don't set up a bogus foundation under the guise of helping impoverished children and women in distress when you really want to train Olympians! Albert already "bought" one such athlete for Monaco. It was a bobsleigh - he helped Monaco win it's first European medal. There was some talk about it being unfair and Albert paying the guy to compete for Monaco. The guy is black, but I forget his nationality - I believe Canadian. I saved the article somewhere, I'll search for it perhaps later.
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Post by agentf on Aug 2, 2012 11:44:04 GMT -5
Tommy Hilfiger is romantically tied to Albert's former lover, correct? She has a weird name...
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Post by paca on Aug 2, 2012 12:25:35 GMT -5
Tommy Hilfiger is romantically tied to Albert's former lover, correct? She has a weird name... was that the blond mother of two in MC? I sort of remember sth like that
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Post by paca on Aug 2, 2012 14:04:28 GMT -5
well, that is catering to Albert. He has been dreaming and talking about that for many years. That was the motivation behind building the sports clinic which now is in dire straights. Albert always wanted to have high profile athletes flock to MC and train there. It's his greatest dream. He has been discussing that with his friends long before trashy came into the picture. Alberts dream is that there will be one day an Olympic medal for MC. I am surprised he hasn't recruited athletes from other countries by offering them citizenship and heaps of money.... Correct. One of the first interviews I read of Albert was with him discussing his plans for an Olympic Athletic training center. He always wanted this and there is nothing wrong with such a goal - just make it happen. However, don't set up a bogus foundation under the guise of helping impoverished children and women in distress when you really want to train Olympians! Albert already "bought" one such athlete for Monaco. It was a bobsleigh - he helped Monaco win it's first European medal. There was some talk about it being unfair and Albert paying the guy to compete for Monaco. The guy is black, but I forget his nationality - I believe Canadian. I saved the article somewhere, I'll search for it perhaps later. of his bobsleigh team I remember that one of them has been competing for MC in athletics, was at one point the BF of Steph, tested positive in doping, apparently due to some hairgrowing product, and then ended up as chef de mission in the olympic comittee of MC. As to his trainingcenter for Olympians in MC apparently the problem was financing it. His dad didn't want to pay for it and didn't see any need or use for it in MC. I think he didn't think that economically the input would be worth the output. I think there is no official way he can get it and justify the funds. That's why he doesn't mind trashy doing this with her foundation. After all she stated that he is her vice president. SO I suppose that she is hoping to stroke Alberts ego and her own at the same time. the kids and women has always been a pretext for her. And Albert doesn't notice it because she is stroking/blinding his ego with what he really wants for himself...being associated with a gold medal at the Olmympics.
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Post by axelle on Aug 2, 2012 14:10:06 GMT -5
There was talk of that Olympic training idea in Monaco years back but it never materialized that I recall.
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Post by paca on Aug 2, 2012 14:45:58 GMT -5
There was talk of that Olympic training idea in Monaco years back but it never materialized that I recall. No the only thing that ever came out of it other then the sport clinic. There were quite a lot of people willing to play along with him. Just not enough to invest money in it. They really though that it would be happening once the clinic started, but then it turned out to be a huge loss and the government pulled the plug. That also meant that the center wouldn't be happening. Apart from the pre sucking up though, I didn't see much gratitude and sucking up from the SA swimmers. I don't think it will be lasting though. They willl only come back when they are in need of money, now they know where they have unlimited funds. Hill and le CLos tweeted lots of things about Phelps being such a great role model and inspiration and stuff, but not a whiff about trashy and fatty. Of course trashy will eventually be working on Hill to make sure she get's her bit in the SA media, but basically I don't think that anyone really cares now... all they are interested in is the gold.
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