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Post by agentf on Mar 18, 2022 4:57:12 GMT -5
Since we're on a royal blog, maybe you'll take the royals' word for it if not mine. Otherwise, you've clearly missed the part where Ukrainians can't count on outside help and have had to defend themselves by themselves. And I'm pretty sure you can kiss goodbye the "Russians wanting to live with Ukrainians" notion. Besides - as with the "500" dead - why? What are Russians doing there at all?! Why should any civilian inside their country, minding their own business, have to be killed? Let alone 500 or 1900, one was already too many. What gave Putin the right? It's absurd. Please explain how you arrive at this tragedy being preventable? It was preventable by Putin staying home. The Russians say - and that I believe - that they do everything to avoid civil victims. And this sounds logic because they have to continue to live with the Ukrainians next door. Its not like the U.S. army bombing Baghdad back then. But about 25.000 machine guns were handed out to everyone who wanted to take one only in Kiev. Without registration! My first thought was - how to get them back when the war is over?! How to control in which hands they get later on...? Thats highly dangerous for the inner safety of the ukrainian society itself! Dangerous criminals were released from jail, provided with weapons to fight the Russians. Do they do harm only to the Russians? Thousands of untrained people who never held a gun try to shoot Russians. Do they hit only Russians in a crowded town? And then you have the ukrainian tanks placed between living houses - its horrible that the people living there are killed - but they were not the tatget. A man with (any kind of) weapon in the hand is a legitimate target. Sorry - in my eyes it was a very bad idea of Mr. Selensky to ask people to build molotov cocktails and go out to fight. They have almost no chance! And without the yellow armlet not even the status of combatant. Its total chaos in many cities, no place where one can be safe so I would flee too. But that does not mean that the Russians kill civilans by purpose. Its a tragedy that could have been prevented and that makes me really furious.
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Post by margarita on Mar 18, 2022 7:58:39 GMT -5
Agentf - lets better go back to discuss royal topics ;-) I could explain but it's not the place here.
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Post by agentf on Mar 18, 2022 12:45:40 GMT -5
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Post by donna on Mar 19, 2022 5:26:26 GMT -5
Since we're on a royal blog, maybe you'll take the royals' word for it if not mine. Royals cannot allow themselves the privilege of an independent opinion. In order to maintain their status, they have to say what the herd wants to hear. Especially now in the cancel culture we live in, adding the fact that royals are grossly irrelevant in these modern times, they cannot be caught saying anything against the socially accepted idea at any given minute. Pretty paralysing, if you ask me.
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Post by agentf on Mar 20, 2022 8:48:31 GMT -5
But if they could say what they want, they'd say: Go Putin? Part of my theory about profiting from sales of metals that go into arms production as well as the financial welcome mat to oligarchs does tend to dovetail with your claim, but I'm a romantic who thinks decency must still exist somewhere. Since we're on a royal blog, maybe you'll take the royals' word for it if not mine. Royals cannot allow themselves the privilege of an independent opinion. In order to maintain their status, they have to say what the herd wants to hear. Especially now in the cancel culture we live in, adding the fact that royals are grossly irrelevant in these modern times, they cannot be caught saying anything against the socially accepted idea at any given minute. Pretty paralysing, if you ask me.
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Post by agentf on Mar 22, 2022 6:36:59 GMT -5
The gossip mags are much more focused on the children: www.legossip.net/albert-de-monaco-preoccupe-pour-jacques-une-resolution-de-charlene-le-tracasse/478078/However in the list of her grievances, they bypass I find the tipping point as I see it, which was the latest paternity suit. I think Nicole or even Sharon Stone are small potatoes in comparison. Whereas "the source" seems to ignore that CC had 10 years to become accustomed to palace life before the wedding, and being a small-town girl clearly was not her ambition.
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Post by axelle on Mar 26, 2022 12:52:09 GMT -5
There are some interesting articles in that website!
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Post by agentf on Mar 26, 2022 13:34:48 GMT -5
It's my new guilty pleasure, just for how imaginative the stories are. It sounds like they make headlines out of daily snippets. It's an aggregator of all the gossip mag front pages. I get whiplash, actually. One minute she's headed back to Berne, another she's chums with Caro, another... I can see if that's the constant barrage they face in Europe, that the gossiping would be exhausting. She would need a counter-propaganda office of even more clever headlines to leak, just to keep everyone happy. The effect though does distract from more severe things happening in the world. At their expense though. It's why I don't relay everything but I read for escapism. Guilty ☝🏼 There are some interesting articles in that website!
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Post by paca on May 2, 2022 11:21:48 GMT -5
well, I guess by now the Verfassungsschutz has gotten bored of reading here thx to input about Ukraine, so we can get back on topic. There have been several pics of her recently and news. Apparently she has travelled to Switzerland and Corsica in recent weeks. I have read rumours of her wanting to install herself permanently in Corsica. Apparently with the kids, but we know that that will never happen. But for her it might be an option. SHe would be close enough to see the kids often and away from the MC gossip. As to the recent pics, well she certainly has regained her weight, which is good news and her haircut, though short, looks less rebellious and extreme. It somewhat suits her. I can't say the same about her recent makeup. IMO it is OTT and more suitable for an evening outing then a sporting event. Also the outfit seems to be wearing her rather than the reverse. It certainly doesn't have the intended effect and her facial expression is more of someone about to vomit than someone making a return. Physically she seems to have recovered (though I noticed a pronounced scaron one of her cheeks), but I doubt that she will be up for public duty. She is in all recent pics hiding behind her kids (who btw are uncomfortable without earplugs, which I am not getting since Albert himself is wearing some). Instead of seaking and getting support from her husband, she seems to draw on the kids. I also think that all of them have pretty much returned to their old behaviour, with ALbert having gotten closer to his kids. But for the moment I am not seeing much of a change for the better here. There have been unkind articles blaming Caro, which IMO are unfair. Luckily I think that she couldn't care less and that she will continue to help out where she can. I think the 2 adults concerned need to make up their minds about how they want to spend the next 10 to 15 years. I think the kids have shown that they can cope with whatever the situation with their parents will be, now they should make up their minds about how they want to live. IF CW continues to go on public outings looking unhappy or pained, she will be setting a bad example to the kids, who might eventually develop their own anxieties about being in public view. Anyways whatever happens behind closed doors is their bit, but both of them need to work on their outings together. For now they look like 2 strangers rather than 2 parents who have been married for over 10 years.
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Post by agentf on May 2, 2022 17:16:59 GMT -5
Well you certainly took your time, my Boris Becker provocation is at least two days old! 😉 Has it been ten years!? I wonder if he regrets not marrying me (and my flying knickers) 😄 I hope Caro has a wide back for everything imparted to her. I see a scar on CC's neck, irregularities on her jaw line, some possible reconstruction on the left side of her face. It would show less had she not been under direct light. well, I guess by now the Verfassungsschutz has gotten bored of reading here thx to input about Ukraine, so we can get back on topic. There have been several pics of her recently and news. Apparently she has travelled to Switzerland and Corsica in recent weeks. I have read rumours of her wanting to install herself permanently in Corsica. Apparently with the kids, but we know that that will never happen. But for her it might be an option. SHe would be close enough to see the kids often and away from the MC gossip. As to the recent pics, well she certainly has regained her weight, which is good news and her haircut, though short, looks less rebellious and extreme. It somewhat suits her. I can't say the same about her recent makeup. IMO it is OTT and more suitable for an evening outing then a sporting event. Also the outfit seems to be wearing her rather than the reverse. It certainly doesn't have the intended effect and her facial expression is more of someone about to vomit than someone making a return. Physically she seems to have recovered (though I noticed a pronounced scaron one of her cheeks), but I doubt that she will be up for public duty. She is in all recent pics hiding behind her kids (who btw are uncomfortable without earplugs, which I am not getting since Albert himself is wearing some). Instead of seaking and getting support from her husband, she seems to draw on the kids. I also think that all of them have pretty much returned to their old behaviour, with ALbert having gotten closer to his kids. But for the moment I am not seeing much of a change for the better here. There have been unkind articles blaming Caro, which IMO are unfair. Luckily I think that she couldn't care less and that she will continue to help out where she can. I think the 2 adults concerned need to make up their minds about how they want to spend the next 10 to 15 years. I think the kids have shown that they can cope with whatever the situation with their parents will be, now they should make up their minds about how they want to live. IF CW continues to go on public outings looking unhappy or pained, she will be setting a bad example to the kids, who might eventually develop their own anxieties about being in public view. Anyways whatever happens behind closed doors is their bit, but both of them need to work on their outings together. For now they look like 2 strangers rather than 2 parents who have been married for over 10 years.
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Post by paca on May 2, 2022 17:27:15 GMT -5
last july it was 10 years. Remember all those videos they posted? like a rerun of their pre and post wedding interview marathon.
as to BB, no empathy from my corner. At the time we considered him dumb and he has proven us right. They have been extremely lenient with him 20 years ago. He tried the same defense as an aging man. This time he got put away. IMO still pretty lenient when you consider he wanted to rid himself of 60 million debt in a year and then continue as usual after hiding his assets with family. I just wonder if he also owned the appartement in Beausoleil his babymama and daughter used for years. I doubt if that was listed. maybe not worth millions but surely a few hundredthousand....
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Post by agentf on May 2, 2022 18:21:08 GMT -5
Either he offended someone and was flushed; or he did his own accounting and he's not good at it; but it's the uninsured creditors who deserve sympathy. But when I look at Johnny Depp for example, with his Pirates fortune and see the setup he walked into with his mercenary bride sent to bankrupt him, I do believe some stars are deliberately fleeced of their cash by a raider-mentality among people who pull strings like puppeteers, who promote someone then destroy him, almost for sport. last july it was 10 years. Remember all those videos they posted? like a rerun of their pre and post wedding interview marathon. as to BB, no empathy from my corner. At the time we considered him dumb and he has proven us right. They have been extremely lenient with him 20 years ago. He tried the same defense as an aging man. This time he got put away. IMO still pretty lenient when you consider he wanted to rid himself of 60 million debt in a year and then continue as usual after hiding his assets with family. I just wonder if he also owned the appartement in Beausoleil his babymama and daughter used for years. I doubt if that was listed. maybe not worth millions but surely a few hundredthousand....
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Post by paca on May 7, 2022 17:57:42 GMT -5
so, another outing with the kids and the pics seem the same. ust differen clothes and her brother was there too. She seems to be hiding behind her kids and is IMO a bit ott with them. Jacques seems to feel crushed by her at some point. Gabriella doesn't mind. All in all, they all seem to have returned to their behaviour from before, I don't see any progress or a learning curve. If they continue like this, she will probably need to get back to therapy soon. I wish that Albert and her bro would show themselves more supportive of her. It shouldn't be only the kids that keep her going.
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Post by paca on May 7, 2022 18:06:09 GMT -5
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Post by agentf on May 8, 2022 9:20:56 GMT -5
Bad economics seem to be the norm these days, and in their case it's always short-term solutions as if by wishful thinking, things will somehow change midcourse. But they never do. No doubt he wants to keep some family integrity while the kids are still underaged but the waste of time and energy until then, in patchwork-type relations, will not give the children any more of a solid foundation in life. It's exhausting to watch their marriage.
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Post by paca on May 8, 2022 13:19:56 GMT -5
Yes it is and I don't see the point. it benefits no one and is costlier than a clean divorce. He could buy property in the kids name for her to live in and give her a few millions to live off. Obviously that won't keep her relations in bread and butter, but it would give her the freedom to live her life the way she wants. This deal keeps him in control of her life and it begs the question: what is there to hide? If they think she can't look after herself, there are other arrangements that can be made, but this is a scherade no one bought in from the start. And to keep her from blabbing is usually part of the deal, besides it would hurt her kids and I think even she gets that. That is why I don#t think she would do that. In that respect I don't think she would emulate Diana. Besides, even if she runs out of money over the years, ALbert would not leave her destitute as that would reflect badly on the family. They have always looked after their own. I get why Caro didn't get divorced as not only she gets to keep the poxy title, but I think she realized that her husband would never manage his alcoholism and as his wife and the mother of his daughter she can eventually make decisions for him medically and financially, whereas other family members would have to go to court. It is much easier for a wife, especially when she is supported by the sons. And Caro has maintained good relations with them. Unlike their father. But with CW I really do not see the point, especially since she is still fairly young.
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Post by axelle on May 25, 2022 16:54:57 GMT -5
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Post by agentf on May 25, 2022 19:22:03 GMT -5
Indeed, nice way of draping those shoulders. Meanwhile, Albert may have found a way to spice up their life a bit. I just came across this: Naughty 😄
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Post by paca on May 26, 2022 14:45:51 GMT -5
personally I think her make up is too heavy, but she certainly looks better than a few months back. I read the interview in MC matin and tbh to me it sounds very much like same old same old and goes with their public behaviour. I do believe that she is still fragile, but given the way they publicly carry on, I fear a relapse. They seem to be using the kids as shields and props instead of addressing their ovious issues. MAybe she feels safer with the kids around, but it shouldn't be up to 7 year olds to support their adult mother and father. Albert should be giving her security and support, but that is not visible in public and since they are using the kids as shields, apparently it is not only optics, but her own feeling. If she could lean on Albert or would feel that she can, there would be outings as a couple and he would be more attentive to her and her bodylanguage would be revealing as well. There is only one point I can make in ALberts favour and that is that I was there when STeph collapsed in public at St devote and was later hospitalised and neither Albert nor her father showed any empathy for her. Quite the contrary. Only MMe Gallico eventually took care of her. Given how publicly Steph and ALbert have always gone on about their closeness etc, I found the incident quite to the contrary. It seemed to lay bare tensions within the family. And a helplessness to actually take proper care of a close one. Granted Rainier was there and he probably disliked her public display, which might have held ALbert back, but looking at the 2 men, I noticed that neither had any idea how to handle the situation and Rainier opted for completely ignoring his daughter and ALbert followed suit. ANd he seems to continue that way with his wife. I do think though that he would be more supportive of Gabriella in similar circumstances. But I do feel that Albert needs to seek help in how he can be more supportive in public. I think that would also help with the rumour mill. Maybe they should speak with her therapist about their public outings and how he can support her better and she communicate to him, when she needs his help and what exactly she needs. I think in time they could both relax and appear more at ease in public. It might also be helpful for her to have her own MMe Gallico at hand for support. Not a family member, but a professional who can step in when needed and quietly lead her asside without making a spectacle.
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Post by agentf on May 26, 2022 23:42:13 GMT -5
Either that or he will become like his father. personally I think her make up is too heavy, but she certainly looks better than a few months back. I read the interview in MC matin and tbh to me it sounds very much like same old same old and goes with their public behaviour. I do believe that she is still fragile, but given the way they publicly carry on, I fear a relapse. They seem to be using the kids as shields and props instead of addressing their ovious issues. MAybe she feels safer with the kids around, but it shouldn't be up to 7 year olds to support their adult mother and father. Albert should be giving her security and support, but that is not visible in public and since they are using the kids as shields, apparently it is not only optics, but her own feeling. If she could lean on Albert or would feel that she can, there would be outings as a couple and he would be more attentive to her and her bodylanguage would be revealing as well. There is only one point I can make in ALberts favour and that is that I was there when STeph collapsed in public at St devote and was later hospitalised and neither Albert nor her father showed any empathy for her. Quite the contrary. Only MMe Gallico eventually took care of her. Given how publicly Steph and ALbert have always gone on about their closeness etc, I found the incident quite to the contrary. It seemed to lay bare tensions within the family. And a helplessness to actually take proper care of a close one. Granted Rainier was there and he probably disliked her public display, which might have held ALbert back, but looking at the 2 men, I noticed that neither had any idea how to handle the situation and Rainier opted for completely ignoring his daughter and ALbert followed suit. ANd he seems to continue that way with his wife. I do think though that he would be more supportive of Gabriella in similar circumstances. But I do feel that Albert needs to seek help in how he can be more supportive in public. I think that would also help with the rumour mill. Maybe they should speak with her therapist about their public outings and how he can support her better and she communicate to him, when she needs his help and what exactly she needs. I think in time they could both relax and appear more at ease in public. It might also be helpful for her to have her own MMe Gallico at hand for support. Not a family member, but a professional who can step in when needed and quietly lead her asside without making a spectacle.
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