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Post by Elektra on May 4, 2011 5:35:02 GMT -5
Maybe KL exercises his version of south african humour WC is so proud of.
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Post by MyAdia on May 4, 2011 5:42:25 GMT -5
The "Kaiser" Karl was too well brought up to say anything about how CW's ass looks without it purposely meaning to be an insult. Can you imagine him, or anyone for that matter, publicly making any reference to Princess Grace's ass, or Jacquline Kennedy's ass, or Diana's ass!? He never would have done that - even by mistake. No, he was giving her a left handed compliment (insult) - smiling all the while and denying any harm meant. Charlene, her relatives, her flunkies, and her fanatics do not get these back handed insults thinly veiled in compliments. They really believed the front page article (with grace's photo) on the Irish Independent where the reporter is basically calling Charlene a "clingy numbers" wearing gold digger was a GLOWING praise of Charlene and her greatness. Silly Charlene probably posted this article all over the palace to show everyone how great she is for Monaco and how much all of Ireland just love her. Please see this post with the fanatic comment and the actual article.
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Post by MyAdia on May 4, 2011 5:50:07 GMT -5
Maybe KL exercises his version of south african humour WC is so proud of. Good one Elektra! but, to notice the difference, Karl's humor seems to require a brain - something Conlene just doesn't possess. have you seen how she has to contort her body to think (see the video in my signature for an idea).
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Post by margarita on May 4, 2011 7:00:00 GMT -5
"Karl's humor seems to require a brain" - MyaDia: that's GREAT You know why Karl Theodor von Guttenberg stepped back - in spite of the majority of Germans loving him? Because he is intelligent enough to realize that the League of people he has to deal with and depends on in political & professional life doesn't take him serious after the plagiarism of his phd-thesis became public. Charlene doesn't even understand Karl's message. But someone else should ...
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Post by paca on May 4, 2011 8:31:16 GMT -5
I'm sorry to contradict, but KT does not have intelligence, otherwise he wouldn't have had to borrow thoughts from others throughout his entire political career. The only thing he has is a large amount of hairgel. He did not go on his own terms and seeing how he is still dealing with the matter, he still hasn't gotten the message why he had to resign the matter is far too complex to go into details here). even those who were fiercly supporting him are now backpaddling and distancing themselves from this arrogant and ignorant twat who thought that a non existent title, a stolen title and a few pics and stories in BILD would make him and his publicity whore wife the royal couple of Germany. The man has not achieved anything of substance in his job. You have to take a close look at those who were supporting him.
But what made him finally realize that he had to step down, was neither the media, nor Merkel nor other CSU members, but his peers and as such I mean the former nobility (both he and his wife come from old families, so imagine the phone calls they received from all kind of family members who feared to be dragged into this and have their names tarnished too). I saw a woman in a discussion the other day, herself former nobility with doctor title. she wasn't really making a lot of words about KT, but the way she said it made it clear, how disgusted they are with him and that he has been made an outcast among them. Maybe in politics and in the media he will eventually see a comeback, but his peers won't forget and those considering themselves worth sth, will not seek to be near him or any of his family. He did not just make a mistake, he showed his complete lack of character and breeding. I'm sure he will notice the lack of invites he and his wife will be receiving to "family" events or how many will be asking them to be god parents to their children. celebs and wannabes, maybe, but not his peers.
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Post by margarita on May 4, 2011 10:15:19 GMT -5
Hi Paca - good point! Well - I correct myself: "KT understood (with assistance of peers) that he was forced to step down Why I mentioned KT here? Because I see some parallels with CW: 1) KT pretended to have the Dr. title while CW pretends to have qualified for Bejing and given up her career for Albert. 2) CW (high school dropout with poor results) would not even get a residence permission or a job as waitress in most countries outside Afrika - so she pretends to become First Lady for lifetime of an entire State. KT passed only the first government licensing examination in law (with not very good results) while it requires the second=higher examination in law to be employd for higher sections of the civil service. The subordinated people in his Ministry were higher qualified then the Minister! KT thought to "heal" it with a Dr. (phd) title. a) With his poor results he normally wouldn't get the permission to write phd-thesis! But he received it for some reason... b) Everyone I've talked to (people with phd or master/ diploma) are quite sure he didn't even write his phd-thesis himself but paid a ghostwriter. A bloody amateur of ghostwriter as we learned... While CW thought she can heal it with fashion... And bloody amateurs of her PR-team and advisors 3) The media loved KT and CW (not because they did/ do a good job - actually they perfom(ed) quite poor - but because the media needed a figure like that) ... only to turn against KT within a few days when the facts against him became overwhelming. I'm still waiting for the same to happen with CW. And it will happen... Because there is no substance. 4) Why con-artists can like them can get so high? Because people with dignity/ knowledge of the true facts/ in high positions just do not point on someone with fingers and say: Look - the King is naked! And all the other people depend on their good will/ fear to suffer consequences/ hope to gain from the contact/ do not care... And here is the main problem IMO. This explains how other people came to power. No matter how much children (especially in Germany) learn about World War II. Sorry - this sounds radical. But we are dealing with the same mechanisms. PLUS: "free" media who failed to do their job and have a closer look to report facts and not opinions of the partys/ ideologies they write for. 5) KT: Those who have some inside info about political life in Germany and reform of Bundeswehr (and I know some insiders very well) never liked him. They saw the big gap between the image he has build up and reality. But isn't it the same with CW? Who cares to scratch the photoshopped surface? Sorry for the long text - I've really tried to shorten a very complex story. Interesting that Paca follows the German media/ political life so close! Very nice To sum it up: KT was our CW.
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Post by paca on May 4, 2011 12:15:06 GMT -5
I fully agree that KT was the CW of German politics and if there would have been anyone left in Merkels party to replace her, she would be history by now too. Funny that I'm always there when CSU has a major happening: the day FJS died, I was in Munich to inscribe myself at the university; at Stoibers first public appearance after the Streibl disaster I was standing right behind him in the new Audi Max of the technical university as he received his not so warm welcome from students and the day KT resigned I was in Berlin in order to organize our return to Germany...I think they will soon be blacklisting me as a bad omen Maybe I can rid Berlin of Merkel too, while I'm househunting
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Post by MyAdia on May 4, 2011 13:27:07 GMT -5
Great analysis Margarita! While CW thought she can heal it with fashion... And bloody amateurs of her PR-team and advisors Doesn't this though say something about our society when Charlene thought correctly that she didn't have to educate herself, nor cultivate herself, nor learn the French language nor even learn Catholicism to get what she wanted? All Conlene had to do was get extensive plastic surgery and wear expensive designer clothes (i.e. look the part) and she got what she wanted. Additionally, she did it with the support of the media and some women behind computer screens on royal message boards and others flippng through her photos in magazines praising her to the hilt. After the baby mama drama where butt ugly Nicole was promoting herself across the magazine pages and then photos emerging starting in December 2005 of cow-looking Tamara parading her daughter as the next Princess of Monaco, both Albert and the media desperately wanted an alternative to throw out there as the face of Monaco. Soon afterward comes young Olympic swimmer who was white blond blue eyes, tall and thin - all the things that media wanted. People in Monaco are just too apathetic to do anything about the trash that Albert has dragged to Monaco for them to bow down to. Charlene is still prancing around with her dull drab expensive designer duds boasting about soon becoming Her Serene Highness Princess Charlene of Monaco exactly because no one cared to scratched beyond the photo shopped or even point out her highly plastic surface.
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Post by axelle on May 5, 2011 7:49:28 GMT -5
This is truly a circus - pity there aren't some cute animals!
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Post by margarita on May 5, 2011 8:03:11 GMT -5
You hit the nail MyaDia: "Doesn't this though say something about our society when Charlene thought correctly that she didn't have to educate herself, nor cultivate herself, nor learn the French language nor even learn Catholicism to get what she wanted? All Conlene had to do was get extensive plastic surgery and wear expensive designer clothes (i.e. look the part) and she got what she wanted. Additionally, she did it with the support of the media and some women behind computer screens on royal message boards and others flippng through her photos in magazines praising her to the hilt."
That's why I'm really concerned. How does our western world even think about teaching others about values and free journalism if a uneducated plastic con-artist wrapped in designer cloth like Charlene Wittstock should become Princess of Monaco? That's stuff for a modern tale! Just no fairy-tale... And what happened to Albert and his dream of Monaco as a model society??? ... Monaco is on it's way to become a model: for virtuality - not virtue! WAKE UP!!!
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Post by margarita on May 5, 2011 8:23:18 GMT -5
I have to correct myself: My smalest concern is that western world would have a hard time teaching others if CW should really become a Princess. I'd rather say we should stop trying to teach others and focus on becoming better ourselves My concern is that the "case CW" shows all the weak points of our society and the fact that she got so far should be a wake up call to all of us. If Albert woke up he'd be the most modern Prince and truly Serene
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Post by Elektra on May 5, 2011 10:30:29 GMT -5
Margarita wrote: "If Albert woke up he'd be the most modern Prince and truly Serene"
The question is does he want that or does he even care enough. I am not sure.
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Post by sandsla on May 12, 2011 23:06:24 GMT -5
Wouldn't you think, if they were smart and trying to convince everyone she had seriously converted to Catholicism, that they would have gone - publicly - to Mass and Communion on Easter Sunday. Easter is only the most important, and most holy day in the entire Christian religion. It's "spiritually speaking" much more important than Christmas. Why wouldn't PA and CW be seen at Easter Mass together. And what a day for CW to show off an Easter Bonnet! This was a no brainer! These people are really dumb. AdminNote: Fixed quoteThat is exactly right CM, but then Charlene at church just seems more a mockery, I don't know why she bothered to convert.
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Post by sandsla on May 12, 2011 23:14:54 GMT -5
There was an article describing Charlene's piss-ass mood while at Moods club in Monaco. The article talked that Albert ignored Charlene and she spent most of the night pouting with her friends. Also, the article mentioned that a business associate of Albert gave Charlene a gift of a piece of jewelry (I think a bracelet) and Charlene cheered up and slipped it on. I remembered the discussion because Paca had stated what kind of woman accepts such a gift and then puts it on right there. A woman like Charlene that's who. yes I remember that jewelry part very well. That's why I think that the whiteshocks are the Ben Alis of Monaco. Hopefully they will find the same fate I wonder if they took over the first floor of the Hotel de Paris after the inlaws of Ben Ali left. I'm sure the staff wouldn't notice the difference:same social climber background, only different haircolour thx to the chemists.... The whiteshocks--Too funny Paca ;D
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Post by sandsla on May 12, 2011 23:24:26 GMT -5
Lagerfeld did the photos? Odd - Mario Testino did Wills n Kate. Those are really lovely. When did Lagerfeld become a pro photographer? Sorry I might have missed something here. Wasn't he bored out of his mind at the first ball when he sat by her too? Karl has always dabbled in photography. he has photographed Caroline and Charlotte for magazines. Just a few weeks ago Karl received permission to shoot a series of photos at the Monaco Casino. Karl is a businessman also, so he knows how rto suck up to Albert like the rest of them. After the Tatler photo shoot, the palace is very careful of who photographed Monaco's flagship - their New Grace creation. The agreeing to allow Karl to photographed Charlene and Albert is the palace latest attempt to but their way into having Charlene be a world style icon. This is the only thing they can aim for this girl. Unfortunately, the palace is still working on a 1956 model for success. They really think that Charlene will draw people to Monaco with her looks and fashion. Karl and Arman needs to be careful with their sucking up praise of Charlene because they may start losing credibility with their audience. For Karl to say that Charlene has a nice figure is ridiculous. Well, she has a nice figurer for a man, perhaps that's what Karl means. When I read that, it is exactly what I thought, they both have lost respect with me! Who wants to support or identify themselves with the image of Charlene Wittstock. I think they have all lost their minds to have anything to do with this girl. Armani, I thought was just getting desperate, but I am surprised Karl would take on this endeavor and suck it up. I can't believe Caroline wants him to do any favors for Chartard? I believe though too his comment could be a backhand compliment, like what else can anyone say about her....politely?
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Post by sandsla on May 12, 2011 23:37:38 GMT -5
YES - that would be it! And then: canonization subito Let's pray for Albert and Monaco - and even for Charlene that she is in S.A. and stays there!!! Ojcze Swiety Janie Pawle, modl sie za Alberta II. i Monako a nawet dla Charlene i czyn aby ona nie wrocila do Monako lecz zyje dlugo i szczescliwe na przyklad w Afryki Poludniowej a Monako niech rozkwitnie! My first prayer to the Polish Pope Poland and Monaco have so much in common. Poland got rid of communism. And Monaco will get rid of Charlenism ... with a little help from above DEO JUVANTEFantastic idea. Let's pray to the last pope. Won't it be funny when they announce his second miracle: To get Albert to brake off the engagement to Trashlene and send her back to where the sun don't shine, without any money. A big star to each of you! Margaritta, CM and DONNA! ;D
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Post by MadameConcorde on May 13, 2011 9:06:47 GMT -5
Charlene Wittstock: the Invisible Woman.
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Post by emmeline on May 13, 2011 12:35:06 GMT -5
Margarita wrote: "If Albert woke up he'd be the most modern Prince and truly Serene" The question is does he want that or does he even care enough. I am not sure. I guess he is so selfish that he doesn't care to be modern and serene. If he really cares about his country, he would leave the throne to Caroline and her kids. I don't think he doesn't even like to be the Prince, but he is there, is his right, and it's like he is not going to leave it to anybody. He will do he things his way, he will flop, and if God wants it, the throne will be on Caroline's hands anyway.
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Post by refia on May 13, 2011 14:42:00 GMT -5
i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd448/Neslisah/monaco/img025.jpgi1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd448/Neslisah/monaco/img026.jpg"Why does Charlene hide her family in Monaco?" Content: Rumours say that Michael Wittstock and Lynette Humberstone (? Why not Wittstock?) are already 2 months in Monaco, but no one saw them. It was noticeable that there weren´t any official appearances of Charlenes parents. (Why?) Not even at the engagement. Then they compare it to Graces parents and that it is also normal for other Royal houses to show the families (William didn´t do it, I heard he wasn´t so open about it to Charles). Royal experts assume that the Wittstocks fear the hype (which hype?). Because they lived in Benoni and didn´t cared for European Royalty.Or maybe the fear to make mistakes at the public. But in 2 months they will have their big appearance. As the proud parents of the beautiful bride.
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Post by sandsla on May 13, 2011 14:57:10 GMT -5
You hit the nail MyaDia: "Doesn't this though say something about our society when Charlene thought correctly that she didn't have to educate herself, nor cultivate herself, nor learn the French language nor even learn Catholicism to get what she wanted? All Conlene had to do was get extensive plastic surgery and wear expensive designer clothes (i.e. look the part) and she got what she wanted. Additionally, she did it with the support of the media and some women behind computer screens on royal message boards and others flippng through her photos in magazines praising her to the hilt." That's why I'm really concerned. How does our western world even think about teaching others about values and free journalism if a uneducated plastic con-artist wrapped in designer cloth like Charlene Wittstock should become Princess of Monaco? That's stuff for a modern tale! Just no fairy-tale... And what happened to Albert and his dream of Monaco as a model society??? ... Monaco is on it's way to become a model: for virtuality - not virtue! WAKE UP!!! Exactly right myadia and margarita--as i mentioned before it really makes you wonder what is wrong with the world and how self defeating it feels sometimes for anyone with a conscience or some integrity, and yet Margarita you are right, I am in no way anything like the kind of person Charlene is, but it does really makes you think that much more about what kind of person I want to be in the world each day-the polar opposite of Charlene Wittstock. Sorry I am pulling up older posts, but I didn't want to leave out kudos to people who deserve them.
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