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Post by royalpauper on May 13, 2011 10:58:33 GMT -5
I do not think that PA is so much interested in plain respect. He wants recognition in form of prizes, awards, honorary doctor titles for his efforts to tell other people how to save our environment. The people in Monaco will not change him or the political system as long as their standard of living does not change. If the average standard of living in Monaco were like the one in South Africa, there would not be a Prince Albert, probably not even a princely family. Even if he chose to marry an ape in drags they would not complain as long as their standard of living would be the same. Money rules the world. Therefore let us enjoy the ongoing soap opera about the rock and the rockies. I think they are good for a lot of juicy events. It is just the beginning. Totally agree with you! There is no turning back at this point even if Albert wakes up and smells the real coffee. He is on it 100%. No one is twisting his arm to marry WC. At first he thought that he wouldn't need to marry her and that he could just travel around the world pretending to save the environment and when it's needed show up with WC on his arm (to show how serious and grown up he became : , but after realizing that dragging a twenty years younger woman who has no real status around dignitaries and royals is an insult and a really bad image for Monaco he agreed that marring her and giving her a legitimate status would be good for him and Monaco. Albert was never a deep person, so he never thought deeper then that. Stopping people to ask question about their relationship and avoiding to go trough the hoops every time he wants to bring her anywhere with him is the good enough reason to marry and give his mother's title to. He knows that in WC he has found someone who would tolerate his sex games with other women and that with her as his wife he will continue to have the freedom he had as a single man. As Electra said Albert is only interested in "recognition in form of prizes, awards, honorary doctor titles" for himself and if WC could bring attention to Monaco through her wardrobe changes... that is the only thing he aspires to achieve as a sovereign. Albert is well aver of his limitations and his fragile ego. That is why he could have never picked someone better then him to be his wife. he just want everyone to leave him alone so he can continue to have the life he is used to.
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Post by scout on May 13, 2011 15:27:10 GMT -5
Also Grace put Monaco on the map because of who she was as a person before she became the Princess of Monaco. That is where the Palace, Albert, and Charlene have it very backwards. The woman made the title--the title didn't make the woman that was Grace Kelly, she made the title mean something, in the same way Charlene makes a joke of it. It is the woman behind the title that is going to make it mean anything or attract anyone. Grace would have probably been even more popular if she had stayed a Hollywood actress--she did quite a few films in a small amount of time. This is exactly the point that I have been trying to make. Grace was an accomplished person BEFORE she became princess. And this made people want to know what and who it was that made her give up a successful career. Thus, people became curious about Monaco. And though I think that Rainier loved Grace, he was also looking for someone with this potential for his wife and he found her. Albert is clueless of this fact and no matter how many lies that the palace spins, they will never convince most people that Charlene was a successful, accomplished person before she became princess. There is nothing there to be successful about. Sure she was a swimmer; but no offense, it was in South Africa, not in a country that has slew of competitive swimmers. There is a story that Caroline and Albert tell that when they were little all they knew was that their father was a very important man and Grace was just their mother. Then in the mid-sixties (?), they took a trip to Hollywood as a family and went to the various studios. Everyone there oohed and aahed over Grace, waited on her hand and foot, and just treated her like total royalty and though they were nice and polite to Rainier, he was just her husband. It was at this time that C and A realized that their mother had been successful and somebody before her marriage. I guess Albert has forgotten all this and just thinks that Grace was a total nobody before she became Princess of Monaco. It is really a shame that he has so little concept of who his mother was. That or he really hates her for some reason.
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Post by sandsla on May 13, 2011 16:08:32 GMT -5
I do not think that PA is so much interested in plain respect. He wants recognition in form of prizes, awards, honorary doctor titles for his efforts to tell other people how to save our environment. The people in Monaco will not change him or the political system as long as their standard of living does not change. If the average standard of living in Monaco were like the one in South Africa, there would not be a Prince Albert, probably not even a princely family. Even if he chose to marry an ape in drags they would not complain as long as their standard of living would be the same. Money rules the world. Therefore let us enjoy the ongoing soap opera about the rock and the rockies. I think they are good for a lot of juicy events. It is just the beginning. Totally agree with you! There is no turning back at this point even if Albert wakes up and smells the real coffee. He is on it 100%. No one is twisting his arm to marry WC. At first he thought that he wouldn't need to marry her and that he could just travel around the world pretending to save the environment and when it's needed show up with WC on his arm (to show how serious and grown up he became : , but after realizing that dragging a twenty years younger woman who has no real status around dignitaries and royals is an insult and a really bad image for Monaco he agreed that marring her and giving her a legitimate status would be good for him and Monaco. Albert was never a deep person, so he never thought deeper then that. Stopping people to ask question about their relationship and avoiding to go trough the hoops every time he wants to bring her anywhere with him is the good enough reason to marry and give his mother's title to. He knows that in WC he has found someone who would tolerate his sex games with other women and that with her as his wife he will continue to have the freedom he had as a single man. As Electra said Albert is only interested in "recognition in form of prizes, awards, honorary doctor titles" for himself and if WC could bring attention to Monaco through her wardrobe changes... that is the only thing he aspires to achieve as a sovereign. Albert is well aver of his limitations and his fragile ego. That is why he could have never picked someone better then him to be his wife. he just want everyone to leave him alone so he can continue to have the life he is used to. I totally agree with you that Albert is thinking this, but it ain't going to happen! Are you kidding, if Albert can't stay out of trouble with opportunistic women as a single man, and when the women had a motivation to stay quiet because they thought they had a chance of roping Albert into making them the Princess of Monaco, just think of the target on him once he's married . He won't have just woman trying to cash in blackmail him, but other men like Eringer looking to stick it to him or blackmail him for money or position! I think Tamara probably accomplished it quicker than most anyone could , she made quick work of it in a matter of a few hours at the most, but Charlene would have been a quick second if she wasn't going for the bigger prize as she expressed in a post herself, and then later when she publicly mused in the forums how she might just have to go that route if Albert didn't marry her! Since the women Albert likes to surround himself all seem to be of the same ilk, besides blackmailing him, or bragging to someone else about it who will find away to make a buck off it, what other reason is a women going to mess around with Albert as a married man. It is only a matter of time before Albert will be headline fodder with poor Charlene as the poor young wronged wife and Albert as the randy prince who has always had trouble with women. Is he really going to tell the public his marriage is a fraud (an open marriage : and that he actually bartered his mothers title to keep his lifestyle--no, he will have to suck it up! Charlene will have him over a barrel once he marries her! These people are so stupid I can't believe it!
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Post by sandsla on May 13, 2011 16:18:30 GMT -5
Also Grace put Monaco on the map because of who she was as a person before she became the Princess of Monaco. That is where the Palace, Albert, and Charlene have it very backwards. The woman made the title--the title didn't make the woman that was Grace Kelly, she made the title mean something, in the same way Charlene makes a joke of it. It is the woman behind the title that is going to make it mean anything or attract anyone. Grace would have probably been even more popular if she had stayed a Hollywood actress--she did quite a few films in a small amount of time. This is exactly the point that I have been trying to make. Grace was an accomplished person BEFORE she became princess. And this made people want to know what and who it was that made her give up a successful career. Thus, people became curious about Monaco. And though I think that Rainier loved Grace, he was also looking for someone with this potential for his wife and he found her. Albert is clueless of this fact and no matter how many lies that the palace spins, they will never convince most people that Charlene was a successful, accomplished person before she became princess. There is nothing there to be successful about. Sure she was a swimmer; but no offense, it was in South Africa, not in a country that has slew of competitive swimmers. There is a story that Caroline and Albert tell that when they were little all they knew was that their father was a very important man and Grace was just their mother. Then in the mid-sixties (?), they took a trip to Hollywood as a family and went to the various studios. Everyone there oohed and aahed over Grace, waited on her hand and foot, and just treated her like total royalty and though they were nice and polite to Rainier, he was just her husband. It was at this time that C and A realized that their mother had been successful and somebody before her marriage. I guess Albert has forgotten all this and just thinks that Grace was a total nobody before she became Princess of Monaco. It is really a shame that he has so little concept of who his mother was. That or he really hates her for some reason. I remember that, in fact I think they mentioned they being who they were as public figures and use to seeing their mom as herself in footage in real life as the princess of Monaco, that they didn't quite grasp the concept that they were watching her in a fictional movie and they all made fun of her for a rather silly line she mutters in one of her movies (I think Mongambo:) about how she didn't know monkeys climbed trees! ;D They said they always teased her about it? Anyway that is what I remember? ;D
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Post by MyAdia on May 18, 2011 7:51:30 GMT -5
Albert and Charlene really are suckers for punishment; they are doing another "Let's repeat what Rainier and Grace did" event this September. They will attend the 50th anniversary ball of the Yorkshire branch of the Variety Club’s Children Charity on Sunday, September 4 in Leeds England - to mark the 40th anniversary when Rainier and Grace visited. I'm sure Charlene probably called up Akris to start designing her another grayish drab wardrobe. while Albert's hanger-ons are lining up some English crooks for Albert to schmooze with over dinner. Prince Albert of Monaco plans Leeds visit By Suzanne McTaggart Tuesday 17 May 2011
Prince Albert of Monaco will attend a ball of a charity’s Yorkshire branch - following in the footsteps of his famous parents. Suzanne McTaggart exclusively reports.
PRINCE Albert of Monaco will be the guest of honour at a glittering charity ball at Harewood House, the YEP can reveal.
The 53-year-old Prince and his fiancee Charlene Wittstock will attend the 50th anniversary ball of the Yorkshire branch of the Variety Club’s Children Charity on Sunday, September 4.
The event will be the couple’s first public engagement as husband and wife – and comes nearly 40 years after the Prince’s parents, Prince Rainier and Princess Grace, attended the charity’s ball at the Queen’s Hotel in Leeds.
During a two-day visit to West Yorkshire in 1972, the Royal couple visited Pinderfields Hospital in Wakefield and enjoyed a civic reception at Leeds Civic Hall, joining famous friends including Cary Grant, Michael Caine and Sacha Distel at the Ball de Monaco on October 26.
At the time, the ball was billed in the YEP as the “most glamourous social occasion the city has ever seen” and also involved a fashion show by famous Paris couturier Balmain – the first time he had shown his designs in this country.
The event marked the first time Prince Rainier and Princess Grace, previously known as Hollywood film star Grace Kelly, had visited the UK as a married couple.
David Wilson, current chairman of the Yorkshire committee of the Variety Club, said: “We want to make this year a really special one that we can look back on with pride, safe in the knowledge that we have raised much needed money for so many special children that deserve all the help that we can give them.”
Prince Rainier and Princess Grace married in a lavish ceremony on April 19, 1956, which was watched by millions of people all over the world.
Their first child, Princess Caroline, was born in January 1957, with Prince Albert following in March 1958 and Princess Stephanie in February 1965.
The couple’s visit to Leeds in the 1970s was prompted by a letter from Mr Peter Stone, then chairman of the Leeds section of the Variety Club, who wrote to their Serene Highnesses asking them to attend the ball.
They politely refused – but Mr Stone then approached the Consul-General for Monaco in London, Mr I S Ivanovic, who persuaded the Royal couple to attend.
The couple arrived in Yorkshire on October 26, 1972, where they were met by a Rolls Royce at Doncaster station and chauffeur-driven to lunch at Nostell Priory.
From there, they went to Pinderfields Hospital, where Princess Grace gave out packets of sweets to more than 160 children.
The couple then went to a civic reception at Leeds Civic Hall, where they exchanged medallions with the Lord Mayor of Leeds, Ald Albert Smith, while Princess Grace accepted flowers from six-year-old Joanne MacLeod.
That evening, their Serene Highnesses attended the Ball de Monaco at the Queen’s Hotel, which cost £60 per couple and aimed to raise between £8,000 and £10,000 for the Variety Club in Yorkshire.
Guests enjoyed a meal of duck pate with Grand Marnier served with hot croissants; stuffed fillets of sole served with mushrooms and grapes in white wine and cream sauce; ice cream souffle with black cherries; petit fours, coffee and lots of champagne.
Princess Grace tragically died in a car crash in 1982 and Prince Rainier passed away in 2005, but Prince Albert is continuing the family’s association with Yorkshire’s Variety Club by attending the Golden Jubilee Ball.
Since the Yorkshire committee formed in 1961, it has raised millions to make a difference to the lives of sick, disabled and disadvantaged children throughout the region.
Over the years, the Variety Club in Yorkshire has funded several major appeals, including a large donation to build the children’s day hospital at St James’s in Leeds.
* For details about the Variety Club in Yorkshire, visit: www.varietyclub.org.uk/yorkshire
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Post by countess on May 18, 2011 7:54:55 GMT -5
i wonder if they'll be late ;O no really, i don't think this push to win over the english is going to work, i hope the press slaughters them
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Post by donna on May 18, 2011 9:13:09 GMT -5
i wonder if they'll be late ;O no really, i don't think this push to win over the english is going to work, i hope the press slaughters them do you really wonder?
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Post by scout on May 18, 2011 10:58:23 GMT -5
They need to distance themselves from his parents. This "walking in their footsteps" only highlights how much they are NOT Rainier and Grace; they don't have the talent or star power. Also, why don't they stay in Monaco and try to improve things by actually working on the problems?
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Post by thtregoddess11 on May 18, 2011 11:23:56 GMT -5
i wonder if they'll be late ;O no really, i don't think this push to win over the english is going to work, i hope the press slaughters them do you really wonder? That's really a question? Seriously? OF COURSE they will be late.
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Post by emmeline on May 18, 2011 12:39:28 GMT -5
They need to distance themselves from his parents. This "walking in their footsteps" only highlights how much they are NOT Rainier and Grace; they don't have the talent or star power. Also, why don't they stay in Monaco and try to improve things by actually working on the problems?Because apparently Al has been convinced by his PR team that he only has to make a look-a-me tour with his plastic bimbo bride and that everything will magically improve in Monaco
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Post by thtregoddess11 on May 18, 2011 12:49:09 GMT -5
They need to distance themselves from his parents. This "walking in their footsteps" only highlights how much they are NOT Rainier and Grace; they don't have the talent or star power. Also, why don't they stay in Monaco and try to improve things by actually working on the problems?Because apparently Al has been convinced by his PR team that he only has to make a look-a-me tour with his plastic bimbo bride and that everything will magically improve in Monaco What? They won't improve if he does that? *sarcasm* ;D
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Post by cm7007 on May 18, 2011 15:51:42 GMT -5
i wonder if they'll be late ;O no really, i don't think this push to win over the english is going to work, i hope the press slaughters them do you really wonder? You know what I'm wondering ...? I'm wondering if perhaps Eringer is correct and Albert REALLY is mentally ill. This is getting creepy - scary creepy! No one is this stupid. Maybe it's all coming from him - Albert and his pea brain finance - all this PR nonsense - and the PR people are just doing what they are told to do. These PR people CAN NOT be this stupid and unprofessional. ... can't be - can they - all of them? Maybe they are just trying to keep their jobs - it's tough out there. Later they can say they were only doing what they were ordered to do. Any thoughts on this as a possibility?
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Post by cm7007 on May 18, 2011 15:57:48 GMT -5
You know what I'm wondering ...? I'm wondering if perhaps Eringer is correct and Albert REALLY is mentally ill. This is getting creepy - scary creepy! No one is this stupid. Maybe it's all coming from him - Albert and his pea brain finance - all this PR nonsense - and the PR people are just doing what they are told to do. These PR people CAN NOT be this stupid and unprofessional. ... can't be - can they - all of them? Maybe they are just trying to keep their jobs - it's tough out there. Later they can say they were only doing what they were ordered to do. Any thoughts on this as a possibility? I meant FIANCEE - boy was that Freudian or what?
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Post by margarita on May 18, 2011 17:02:40 GMT -5
"Maybe they are just trying to keep their jobs - it's tough out there. Later they can say they were only doing what they were ordered to do." Sorry - but do we really wonder why all the cruel things happened in World War II. or Soviet Union or ... Nobody can say he/ she was just ordered to do. Are we a society with christian values or not? If yes: people have a conscience ... and thus are responsibility for what they do or don't do. (It's not against you, donna ... ) Where are we? And where do we go from here...
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Post by paca on May 18, 2011 17:34:47 GMT -5
they could always try and work in the real world. Allavena managed to be highly successful; but then again, he is a man of character
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Post by emmeline on May 18, 2011 17:40:10 GMT -5
You know what I'm wondering ...? I'm wondering if perhaps Eringer is correct and Albert REALLY is mentally ill. This is getting creepy - scary creepy! No one is this stupid. Maybe it's all coming from him - Albert and his pea brain finance - all this PR nonsense - and the PR people are just doing what they are told to do. These PR people CAN NOT be this stupid and unprofessional. ... can't be - can they - all of them? Maybe they are just trying to keep their jobs - it's tough out there. Later they can say they were only doing what they were ordered to do. Any thoughts on this as a possibility? Mmm, you do have a point. I don't want to think Albert is that stupid, but never give other choices...
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Post by grandduchess on May 18, 2011 20:49:22 GMT -5
That's really a question? Seriously? OF COURSE they will be late. Well, Al definitely will. Conlene will be dressed and holding the flowers 24 hours prior. Just to be sure
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Post by grandduchess on May 18, 2011 20:51:37 GMT -5
You know what I'm wondering ...? I'm wondering if perhaps Eringer is correct and Albert REALLY is mentally ill. This is getting creepy - scary creepy! No one is this stupid. Maybe it's all coming from him - Albert and his pea brain finance - all this PR nonsense - and the PR people are just doing what they are told to do. These PR people CAN NOT be this stupid and unprofessional. ... can't be - can they - all of them? Maybe they are just trying to keep their jobs - it's tough out there. Later they can say they were only doing what they were ordered to do. Any thoughts on this as a possibility? I think he's both ill as well as morally and ethically impaired...
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Post by suite583 on May 19, 2011 11:13:54 GMT -5
You know what I'm wondering ...? I'm wondering if perhaps Eringer is correct and Albert REALLY is mentally ill. This is getting creepy - scary creepy! No one is this stupid. Maybe it's all coming from him - Albert and his pea brain finance - all this PR nonsense - and the PR people are just doing what they are told to do. These PR people CAN NOT be this stupid and unprofessional. ... can't be - can they - all of them? Maybe they are just trying to keep their jobs - it's tough out there. Later they can say they were only doing what they were ordered to do. Any thoughts on this as a possibility? Often I am thinking that they are bound into the protocol of what Fatal has the last word.
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Post by scout on May 19, 2011 11:53:32 GMT -5
You know what I'm wondering ...? I'm wondering if perhaps Eringer is correct and Albert REALLY is mentally ill. This is getting creepy - scary creepy! No one is this stupid. Maybe it's all coming from him - Albert and his pea brain finance - all this PR nonsense - and the PR people are just doing what they are told to do. These PR people CAN NOT be this stupid and unprofessional. ... can't be - can they - all of them? Maybe they are just trying to keep their jobs - it's tough out there. Later they can say they were only doing what they were ordered to do. Any thoughts on this as a possibility? I meant FIANCEE - boy was that Freudian or what? LOL ;D I think you had it right the first time.
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