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Post by paca on May 29, 2012 4:49:15 GMT -5
no that's the ministre d'etat. There is a resemblance, but I think Powers has more of an egghead
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Post by MyAdia on May 29, 2012 5:28:00 GMT -5
I don't think it is Mike Powers in the ball pics. At least I haven't noticed him. BUt I did notice that crotch bit. The skirt gives her stomack a weird look, buta bit lower it is way worse. I also noticed that she is completely out of tune with the rest of the people at the table. It's really weird. Almost like she is in a parallel world. She is also trying her demure pose and I think that is why her reactions are different. SHe certainly is smitten with Webber and for the first time she really seems to be enjoying an event. Isn't that Mike Powers in the middle laughing behind the two idiots in the first photo? Maybe it's someone else that sort of looks like Powers to me. I don't know what picture you are speaking of, please post it. But, I haven't seen Mike Powers in any of the photos from the gala nor the Grand Prix. I was surprised to see Mike with Albert and Charlene at the tennis match. Before then, I haven't seen him since the rock concert at the palace while the entire family made fools of them selves. I always got the feeling that Mike was a real true friend to Albert and as a true friend he thought Albert was mistaking a HUGE mistake by marrying Charlene. I think Mike was one of those that caught on what a con artist Charlene really is. I didn't even see any photos of him at the wedding, yet I saw photos of his friend Jean-Camille. Mike's presence at public events with the "happy newlyweds" can mean acceptance of their marriage or perhaps Albert is coming around to thinking that perhaps he did made a mistake. Albert coming around would require a brain and balls, thus I doubt that he is. Who knows.
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Post by MyAdia on May 29, 2012 5:40:43 GMT -5
I knew it - the team of flunkies are busy at work just one day after Sophie appearing at the Grand Prix - with Charlene (not anyone else mind you). I just read the first article about how Charlene is BFF with several royals, especially Sophie - with the important spin about how valuable she is to Monaco (not posting it because I won't spread this particular group propaganda). The Sophie connection accompanied by Charlene's value to Monaco because of it is really a flunkie promotional campaign. this is how the con artist operates - promote her greatest or value by association instead of any actual work or accomplishment. Clearly, people in Monaco are grumbling about Charlene's uselessness and this seems like a shallow solution to the grumbling. I am sure a close relationship to the British Royal family would really appeal to some in Monaco, but how far can you really go with such a connection. Does it really change anything of substance in Monaco?
Let's see if Charlene's usual sycophantic media partners (Point de Vue, Bunte, Gala, and Paris Match) start promoting this angle, then we will know it is an orchestrated effort with the flunkie team.
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Post by MyAdia on May 29, 2012 6:06:17 GMT -5
Exactly Mrs Z - little or no interest in Albert and Charlene! from the beginning of Charlene's very public and extremely tacky public introduction in Albert's life in Turin, there has always been a media interest in the couple and in Charlene, but that has tapered. However, since the beginning the media interest in the couple and Charlene specifically has NEVER match a public demand. This is where Albert made his mistake thinking that marrying Charlene would draw tourist to Monaco. The public never cared about your so-called "New Grace" you idiot. The media manufactured an interest in the couple and Charlene that never match a direct demand from the public. This is why Charlene was a huge flop in Holloywood and especially at the Oscars. Thius is why not one single Australasian celebrity appeared at the Grace opening to mingled with Charlene and they had to bus in a "crowd" of children AND their parents . This is why the streets of Monaco was empty during their wedding.
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Post by paca on May 29, 2012 6:14:16 GMT -5
Isn't that Mike Powers in the middle laughing behind the two idiots in the first photo? Maybe it's someone else that sort of looks like Powers to me. I don't know what picture you are speaking of, please post it. But, I haven't seen Mike Powers in any of the photos from the gala nor the Grand Prix. I was surprised to see Mike with Albert and Charlene at the tennis match. Before then, I haven't seen him since the rock concert at the palace while the entire family made fools of them selves. I always got the feeling that Mike was a real true friend to Albert and as a true friend he thought Albert was mistaking a HUGE mistake by marrying Charlene. I think Mike was one of those that caught on what a con artist Charlene really is. I didn't even see any photos of him at the wedding, yet I saw photos of his friend Jean-Camille. Mike's presence at public events with the "happy newlyweds" can mean acceptance of their marriage or perhaps Albert is coming around to thinking that perhaps he did made a mistake. Albert coming around would require a brain and balls, thus I doubt that he is. Who knows. I think you are mistaken in Mike here. He is the friend who showed on several documentaries as the one saying how special she is and how good they are together. He was clearly supportive of her and them as a couple. He has never been much on official outings, unless they were sportsrealted or casual. I don't think I've ever seen him at the red cross.
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Post by MyAdia on May 29, 2012 6:23:39 GMT -5
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Post by paca on May 29, 2012 6:29:12 GMT -5
I knew it - the team of flunkies are busy at work just one day after Sophie appearing at the Grand Prix - with Charlene (not anyone else mind you). I just read the first article about how Charlene is BFF with several royals, especially Sophie - with the important spin about how valuable she is to Monaco (not posting it because I won't spread this particular group propaganda). The Sophie connection accompanied by Charlene's value to Monaco because of it is really a flunkie promotional campaign. this is how the con artist operates - promote her greatest or value by association instead of any actual work or accomplishment. Clearly, people in Monaco are grumbling about Charlene's uselessness and this seems like a shallow solution to the grumbling. I am sure a close relationship to the British Royal family would really appeal to some in Monaco, but how far can you really go with such a connection. Does it really change anything of substance in Monaco? Let's see if Charlene's usual sycophantic media partners (Point de Vue, Bunte, Gala, and Paris Match) start promoting this angle, then we will know it is an orchestrated effort with the flunkie team. I am sure some of them will point it out, but really you are right it does not make any dif to MC economically or otherwise if there is a BRF connection or not. Besides it has been there through Caro before and what did that change? I am sure that the social climbing trashies are happy about it and see themselves marrying into the BRF eventually. After all there are still 2 females unmarried right? And ma still has 2 sons to take care off...I bet there is an idea in their heads
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Post by MyAdia on May 29, 2012 6:50:41 GMT -5
I think you are mistaken in Mike here. He is the friend who showed on several documentaries as the one saying how special she is and how good they are together. He was clearly supportive of her and them as a couple. He has never been much on official outings, unless they were sportsrealted or casual. I don't think I've ever seen him at the red cross. I definitely re,member Mike's supportive comments of Albert and Charlene in the ZDF (German documentary) - I was surprised that a close friend would speak about their relationship for a documentary. So of course, he had Albert's permission and probably request. But, I felt his comments about Charlene were more backhanded compliments as opposed to direct praises of Charlene. He mentioned how competitiveness and driven Charlene was, down to earth and a good friend to Albert. Mike also mentioned that he hope Albert finds someone to share his life who would ease his load and assume some of his responsibilities. I remember having mixed feelings about his use of "praises" and my feelings were confirmed after observing the photos from the ZZ Top concert. I think (my opinion of course) that Mike saw the real scheming Charlene as she took photos with her friends. I think he saw a not so complimentary ambassador for Monaco. Mike has always been very big on promoting Monaco and I just got the feeling that Mike felt Charlene was a step in the VERY WRONG direction in what's best for Monaco. Look at these photos of Mike (with glasses on by the tree) eyeing Charlene and tell me what do you think - pleased, displeased, tired, happy, drunk, pissed off, embarrassed (recall Charlene was braless), disinterested, etc.: Pic1 ** Pic2 Look how happy this woman is that she won you bitches!: Pic3Charlene thanking (and humping) her Sucker: Pic4 The ZDF video was removed from the site after the engagement since they planned to re-run it as the greatest love story in the making. It would be great to post it and have transcribe (and translate since I couldn't hear his actual English words that much over the German translator) his words.
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Post by paca on May 29, 2012 7:13:14 GMT -5
there was another one with him in the wedding doc. I think they had several on them over the time and I think the last one was positively supporting, whereas before he was more vague. I don't find anythink striking about the pics from the concert. Of course trashy is over the top, probably high on drugs if not on herself. Mike looks bored to disinterested. Her brother is right next to him and doesn't much different to him. I wouldn't take these pics as any proof for whether or not he has caught on to her or not. Frankly I think he doesn't even care. And it doesn't even matter to him as clearly he knows whose side he is on if there is a break up. I also doubt that he ever thought about the consequences for MC. He just doesn't strike me as a particularly smart guy. He is there when Albert wants a good time otherwise he has his own life. Same with his sister. Though I think that she works more then she does. I think he is the kind of best life with minimum effort guy. I don't think he is even deep enough to really give it a thought whether or not this woman is good for his friend or not. As long as she is not over bitchy and bothering him (which she won't with him) he will consider her ok. As soon as Assbert decides that he's had enough of her, he will support him there too. Mike knows first of all what is good for him and his lot.
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Post by MyAdia on May 29, 2012 7:36:13 GMT -5
there was another one with him in the wedding doc. I didn't see the wedding documentary. I am really disappointed that Albert has such non-caring friends. That's not good. I remember the wedding production manager boasting in the beginning doing a four-part documentary series on Charlene, so I guess he caught on after their plans to charge at least France $500,000 to air their wedding was a big laugh. I didn't even watch the wedding, but a few clips that posters posted during the wedding. Clearly, I could never be Albert's friend - I tend to tell my friends (only once) what they should hear and not what they want. Once I let them know how I feel, I support them - to a point.
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Post by paca on May 29, 2012 9:21:28 GMT -5
honestly? I don't think that Albert has one true friend. Nobody, including his sisters will tell them what they think. I think the only one who ever criticised him was Rainier. And he might have done it in a way that he couldn't handle. But other then that there is not one person around him, who might not fear to lose sth or other by saying what they really think.
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Post by MyAdia on May 29, 2012 10:58:52 GMT -5
honestly? I don't think that Albert has one true friend. Nobody, including his sisters will tell them what they think. I think the only one who ever criticised him was Rainier. And he might have done it in a way that he couldn't handle. But other then that there is not one person around him, who might not fear to lose sth or other by saying what they really think. I kind of got that feeling when I heard Albert speak at a conference. Charlene, Mike Powers, some of Albert's cousins and his staff accompanied him. It was during the time when I was still defending Albert and believed that he had great potential to do great things in Monaco if he had the right people helping him. I was so disappointed after hearing him speak, especially after the extensive advertising within the organization about Albert speaking. I didn't want to believe it, but afterward deep down inside I felt that Albert would never be anything more than an insignificant lightweight who would be invited to events because of his name recognition. I doubted then if he would ever have any real influence on anyone or anything. I am sure now that he will not. The irony is I felt that way not because of his lack of knowledge about the topic (he was very knowledgeable) nor because he was such a terrible speaker and presenter, but because ALL in his rather large entourage seem to be indifferent, unaware or worse did not care of Albert's ineptness. They all happily congratulated Albert (except Charlene who turned on her phone as soon as Albert finished speaking) and Albert seemed to be well pleased with himself. There is no hope for someone to improve and do great things if they have no clue that they need improvement. There were many in the audience, but we could barely hear Albert when he spoke - unlike all the other presenters who were very audible. Albert spoke in an extremely low and monotonic tone with hardly any expressions of life. People were leaning in their seats as if the few inches forward would make a difference in their ability to hear him. Albert really missed an opportunity to make a huge impact on some very influential people - but he blew it - and he didn't seem to realize that he did! There was just one question directed to him from someone sitting in the very front, because frankly, I doubt if anyone else could hear him. If they could, I doubt if Albert inspired them to care enough to get his opinion. An Irish reporter had reported the same about hearing Albert speak in Ireland. He was rather suprised at how poorly a speaker Albert was and he specifically mentioned Albert's low voice. I knew exactly how and why the Irish reporter felt that way. You are surprised because you do not expect a man in Albert's position who speaks all over the world to have not corrected immediately a simple problem of speaking too low. Why hadn't anyone on his staff, family, colleague, speaker inviter, adviser, friend, or just a stranger off the street ever tell him to SPEAK UP? Seriously. Simple, you don't remain in Albert's entourage riding on the gravy train - basically living large off the fat hog called Albert by criticizing or even giving him constructive feedback. so, if people are not willing to give him quality feedback about his speaking abilities, who would give him governing feedback and criticisms. What a huge waste, because like I said about what I heard - he was very knowledgeable, but absolutely completely uninteresting and just downright dull. With the right advising and coaching, he could have been inspiring to those who came to hear him speak.
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Post by paca on May 29, 2012 12:21:50 GMT -5
But you are assuming that he actually wrote what he presented. Assbert has people writing for him. Knowledgeable people. All he has to do is read. And he doesn't even manage that, because he can't be bothered to read his speeches before stepping on the podium. He only gave one good speech in his life and that was on the day of his ascension. Incidentally he did not stammer once. Why? Because he knew it was important and he had prepared. The worst is when he tries to say sth without script in his own words. It just doesn't come out. And the reason is that sth needs to be inside in order to come out. He received treatment for his speech problem. But he never bothered to get over it. Most people manage to develop methods to help them out. He hasn't done anything. He just makes people suffer through his speeches and glad to get away. It is painful to the audience. He should at least make it brief to put people out of their misery, but he doesn't even have enough respect for the audience to do that. The men is actually quite full of himself. He probably thinks that people who criticise his speaking ability are just jealous
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Post by hibou on May 29, 2012 12:34:36 GMT -5
But you are assuming that he actually wrote what he presented. Assbert has people writing for him. Knowledgeable people. All he has to do is read. And he doesn't even manage that, because he can't be bothered to read his speeches before stepping on the podium. He only gave one good speech in his life and that was on the day of his ascension. Incidentally he did not stammer once. Why? Because he knew it was important and he had prepared. The worst is when he tries to say sth without script in his own words. It just doesn't come out. And the reason is that sth needs to be inside in order to come out. He received treatment for his speech problem. But he never bothered to get over it. Most people manage to develop methods to help them out. He hasn't done anything. He just makes people suffer through his speeches and glad to get away. It is painful to the audience. He should at least make it brief to put people out of their misery, but he doesn't even have enough respect for the audience to do that. The men is actually quite full of himself. He probably thinks that people who criticise his speaking ability are just jealous So true paca, in fact Winston Churchill had a stammer (not to mention the movie the King's speech), but then these men rose to the occasion and took their jobs seriously. Albert is just a spoiled boy who doesn't feel the need to work. I am sad for Monaco that they have to endure this train wreck of a monarch. JMO.
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Post by hibou on May 29, 2012 12:36:41 GMT -5
honestly? I don't think that Albert has one true friend. Nobody, including his sisters will tell them what they think. I think the only one who ever criticised him was Rainier. And he might have done it in a way that he couldn't handle. But other then that there is not one person around him, who might not fear to lose sth or other by saying what they really think. Albert never learned to tell the true friends from the sycophants. I think his insecurities lead him to the sycophants. He must have a very fragile ego, either that or he's a sociopath. JMO.
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Post by paca on May 29, 2012 12:41:38 GMT -5
LOL maybe both. And he married one too
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Post by MyAdia on May 29, 2012 13:35:19 GMT -5
Come on guys, please do not put me into the suga loonies and flunkie camp. Of course I know Albert and any public person have speech writers. Albert did give a prepared presentation in which he was awful at, but he also was part of a panel discussion which involved impromptu discussion among each others. Also, Albert was knowledgeable in his response to the facilitator. Unlike his kindergarten bride who requires questions and answers in advance to try to fool people that she is at least alive, Albert knew quite a lot about the topic as to not look like a complete idiot. again, his presentation skills are awful!
Seriously, he really missed an opportunity to make a positive impression among some influential people. One of the guests was supposed to go to Monaco in return, but I really believed that Albert's lackluster performance would have made this guest's visit frivolous in a time that the organizations, as many, was feeling an impact from the financial crisis. I think Albert probably missed other opportunities based on his lackluster performance at other venues also.
Again, the main point was to emphasize Albert cane with an entire entourage who all patted him on the back - then they continued their gallivanting around the globe having fun.
As Monaco steadily declines as Albert continues conducting his gravy train with a bunch of free loaders riding high, I wonder if Albert ever thinks now that perhaps his father was trying to help him with his criticism. Naaaah, probably not.
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Post by hibou on May 29, 2012 15:14:01 GMT -5
Come on guys, please do not put me into the suga loonies and flunkie camp. Of course I know Albert and any public person have speech writers. Albert did give a prepared presentation in which he was awful at, but he also was part of a panel discussion which involved impromptu discussion among each others. Also, Albert was knowledgeable in his response to the facilitator. Unlike his kindergarten bride who requires questions and answers in advance to try to fool people that she is at least alive, Albert knew quite a lot about the topic as to not look like a complete idiot. again, his presentation skills are awful! Seriously, he really missed an opportunity to make a positive impression among some influential people. One of the guests was supposed to go to Monaco in return, but I really believed that Albert's lackluster performance would have made this guest's visit frivolous in a time that the organizations, as many, was feeling an impact from the financial crisis. I think Albert probably missed other opportunities based on his lackluster performance at other venues also. Again, the main point was to emphasize Albert cane with an entire entourage who all patted him on the back - then they continued their gallivanting around the globe having fun. As Monaco steadily declines as Albert continues conducting his gravy train with a bunch of free loaders riding high, I wonder if Albert ever thinks now that perhaps his father was trying to help him with his criticism. Naaaah, probably not. I think that is why we all go crazy. He has the ability he just doesn't put any effort into it. He just wants to play. Why else would he marry someone like Charlene who only encourages his lack of responsibility. JMO
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Post by cm7007 on May 29, 2012 22:03:56 GMT -5
The top looks like it made from that OILCLOTH material they used to make table clothes from in the 50's! And the shoes are simply hideous. Hidious! ;D Some photos from the gala dinner. I am thinking they it took time to release them because they either shooed away the porn stars and prostitutes or controlled which photos were released or taken. Seriously, you know these women stayed around to attend this gala. It's this photo MyAdia. I though the man in the middle back looked a lot like Mike Powers.
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Post by paca on May 30, 2012 4:29:45 GMT -5
Well, he is called Mike, but in French Michel Roger
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