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Post by creativemind on Mar 15, 2012 15:15:00 GMT -5
thanks for posting margarita!
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Post by creativemind on Mar 15, 2012 15:16:06 GMT -5
dang she needs to be the face of monaco! not cha cha!
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Post by agentf on Mar 16, 2012 18:42:23 GMT -5
She makes me speechless, honestly. What I'd give to have a daughter like her. No affect, smooth, a thinking woman and loyal to family. She couldn't be more perfect.
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Post by MyAdia on Mar 31, 2012 18:25:52 GMT -5
Charlotte Casiraghi at the International Jumping at Barbizon in 2012 Pic1: Walking, spotted the cameras Pic2: Great natural smile Pic3: Nice butt! Pic4: Texting Pic5: Patting her horse Troy, who by the way has a nice Gucci hat also Pic6: Looking tired Pic7: Making a jump Pic8: About to do another (or finishing one) Pic9: Side and back view of a jump Pic10: Charlotte dear, you should be used to the cameras in your face... Pic11 *** Pic12 *** Pic13: Chatting with her coach and friends
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Post by hibou on Mar 31, 2012 19:09:26 GMT -5
Charlotte Casiraghi at the International Jumping at Barbizon in 2012 Pic1: Walking, spotted the cameras Pic2: Great natural smile Pic3: Nice butt! Pic4: Texting Pic5: Patting her horse Troy, who by the way has a nice Gucci hat also Pic6: Looking tired Pic7: Making a jump Pic8: About to do another (or finishing one) Pic9: Side and back view of a jump Pic10: Charlotte dear, you should be used to the cameras in your face... Pic11 *** Pic12 *** Pic13: Chatting with her coach and friends Thanks for the photos. Charlotte didn't have a good day. On the first photo she got in too close and is jumping a bit ahead of his motion. The second she is galloping between fences, and the third she got left behind (he left before she was with his motion which is why she is sitting over the fence). Since I don't know what the course looked like, it's hard to say why she was getting her distances to the fences wrong, but she and Troy were definitely not on the same page for this show.
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Post by paca on Mar 31, 2012 19:30:23 GMT -5
I don't think that CHarlotte is really such a horseperson. She does it, because she likes riding and has not a lot of other things to do to fill her day. I doubt that she trains every day with her horse. SHe has others train him and then goes to the competitions after a few turns on the horse. In order to be really good, she would need to give it her all. My cousin was a very successful rider. If she didn't have to work, she would probably live on the back of her horse.
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Post by MyAdia on Mar 31, 2012 19:37:34 GMT -5
I don't think that CHarlotte is really such a horseperson. She does it, because she likes riding and has not a lot of other things to do to fill her day. I doubt that she trains every day with her horse. SHe has others train him and then goes to the competitions after a few turns on the horse. In order to be really good, she would need to give it her all. My cousin was a very successful rider. If she didn't have to work, she would probably live on the back of her horse. Which is a shame if she doesn't out her all into training. Can you just imagine the money involved in supporting her hobby - if this really is what riding is to her. I'm sure millions by now.
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Post by hibou on Apr 1, 2012 11:42:10 GMT -5
I don't think that CHarlotte is really such a horseperson. She does it, because she likes riding and has not a lot of other things to do to fill her day. I doubt that she trains every day with her horse. SHe has others train him and then goes to the competitions after a few turns on the horse. In order to be really good, she would need to give it her all. My cousin was a very successful rider. If she didn't have to work, she would probably live on the back of her horse. It's physically and mentally demanding. Riders like Zara Phillips don't just ride, they also condition and cross train. Her husband is the one who taught her how to condition and that's when Zara's riding really took off. Even amateurs who want to be good need to stay in condition and ride at least several times a week. She's jumping the equivalent of the US. low (4'3") Amateurs. I could be wrong but that's what the height of the fences look like. When you get to a certain height, the trainer can only do so much with the horse. She has to ride the distances and make the decisions. She had a bad day. As for expense, in the US to ride the circuit (which is what Charlotte is doing) costs upward of $250,000 - $500,000 a year not including the purchase of a top horse which start in the six figures for a good amateur horse. Even with Gucci's underwriting it's still a hefty price tag.
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Post by duchesscornflower on Apr 1, 2012 14:51:30 GMT -5
I don't think that CHarlotte is really such a horseperson. She does it, because she likes riding and has not a lot of other things to do to fill her day. I doubt that she trains every day with her horse. SHe has others train him and then goes to the competitions after a few turns on the horse. In order to be really good, she would need to give it her all. My cousin was a very successful rider. If she didn't have to work, she would probably live on the back of her horse. It's physically and mentally demanding. Riders like Zara Phillips don't just ride, they also condition and cross train. Her husband is the one who taught her how to condition and that's when Zara's riding really took off. Even amateurs who want to be good need to stay in condition and ride at least several times a week. She's jumping the equivalent of the US. low (4'3") Amateurs. I could be wrong but that's what the height of the fences look like. When you get to a certain height, the trainer can only do so much with the horse. She has to ride the distances and make the decisions. She had a bad day. As for expense, in the US to ride the circuit (which is what Charlotte is doing) costs upward of $250,000 - $500,000 a year not including the purchase of a top horse which start in the six figures for a good amateur horse. Even with Gucci's underwriting it's still a hefty price tag. Hibou, thank you for the information regarding how demanding this sport is. I don't ride horses so I don't know much about the sport except it looks elegant and beautiful. I guess that my experience has been to watch the Olympic Equestrian competitions and those riders are so professional and expert at what they do. It makes sense to me that cross training is important to this sport, as cross training would have many benefits to other athletes in other sports. Paca - how cute that your cousin would live on the back of her horse if she did not have to work. But your comment is more that humorous, it is telling non-equestrian people what it takes for a person to really excel in this sport. With Cyclist, runners, swimmers, one athlete is competing against other athletes but in equestrian sports, there are two athletes competing together, the rider and the horse. In my mind, I'm thinking, "how do I think like my horse thinks?" Your comment answered that question Which is a shame if she doesn't out her all into training. Can you just imagine the money involved in supporting her hobby - if this really is what riding is to her. I'm sure millions by now. Yes MyAida, probably tens of millions but that money is paying for wages and jobs, hopefully not to just a few people.
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Post by paca on Apr 1, 2012 17:07:52 GMT -5
I don't think that CHarlotte is really such a horseperson. She does it, because she likes riding and has not a lot of other things to do to fill her day. I doubt that she trains every day with her horse. SHe has others train him and then goes to the competitions after a few turns on the horse. In order to be really good, she would need to give it her all. My cousin was a very successful rider. If she didn't have to work, she would probably live on the back of her horse. It's physically and mentally demanding. Riders like Zara Phillips don't just ride, they also condition and cross train. Her husband is the one who taught her how to condition and that's when Zara's riding really took off. Even amateurs who want to be good need to stay in condition and ride at least several times a week. She's jumping the equivalent of the US. low (4'3") Amateurs. I could be wrong but that's what the height of the fences look like. When you get to a certain height, the trainer can only do so much with the horse. She has to ride the distances and make the decisions. She had a bad day. As for expense, in the US to ride the circuit (which is what Charlotte is doing) costs upward of $250,000 - $500,000 a year not including the purchase of a top horse which start in the six figures for a good amateur horse. Even with Gucci's underwriting it's still a hefty price tag. That's probably exactly why she is doing Gucci now and a sign that they have now a lot less of it at their disposal then a few years back. To my knowledge she has more then one horse at her disposal. Plus she has been doing this for along number of years, though at some stage less then recently. Zara and her mom are horse people. Zara is used to this life because her mother has been living it while she was a little girl. Maybe her husband helped her to a degree, but I believe in her family it was simply part of life. To her it comes more easily. I believe that to Zara this is not her hobby, it's her life and I suppose that her husband made her/helped her to acknowledge that and go for it, whereas CHarlotte to me does not seem as decided. Her mom supports her, just like she supports Alex, but Caro has never lived the kind of life that you need to lead if you want to be successful in sport. So she can only be supportive to a degree. And I don't think that any of the Grimaldis and offspring have learned to live a life of discipline. They have learned to live a life bent to their preferences. All of them only participate where and when it pleases them. I don't think that any of them have enough strength of character to achieve excellence in what they aim for. Rainier and Albert I were exceptions in a long line of spoilt playboys. But even Albert I was considered a bad prince, because he put his science interest before his country. But at least he had enough passion and perseverance to achieve sth in his field and his time.
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Post by paca on Apr 1, 2012 17:39:03 GMT -5
Paca - how cute that your cousin would live on the back of her horse if she did not have to work. But your comment is more that numerous, it is telling non-equestrian people what it takes for a person to really excel in this sport. With Cyclist, runners, swimmers, one athlete is competing against other athletes but in equestrian sports, there are two athletes competing together, the rider and the horse. In my mind, I'm thinking, "how do I think like my horse thinks?" Your comment answered that question It takes a lot more sacrifices then most sports. I have noun people, who were just amateurs and who would end up giving up relationships for their sport, as you apparently can't do it, if your partner is not supportive. Obviously no one get's anywhere if the partner does not support you, but this sport goes beyond a normal sport, where you mostly concern yourself with your own body and maybe your equipment. You do not need to form a relationship with your bike or your tennis racket. You take one, try it and decide whether it suits you or not. Obviously a horse has to suit you too, but you have to be able to notice whether your horse is having a good day or not and then figure out how you adjust yourself. Plus you have to manage your own condition, physically and emotionally. Only when horse and rider are in tune and at the hight of their physical and mental abilities, then they have a good chance o succeed. If they are out of tune, they won't. And no doping of horses or riders would ever be able to achieve that. Success in sport is at a certain level not a matter of the physical, but mostly of the mind. Experience and mental strength can be turned into an advantage, even if the opponent is younger, stronger and healthier. Steffi Grafs last win at the Paris Open shows that clearly. One tiny mistake and the inability to put it out of her mind eventually cost hinggis an almost certain victory.
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Post by axelle on Apr 2, 2012 7:00:30 GMT -5
I love her Gucci photos in Vogue - she gets my vote as the next real flagship of Monaco.
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Post by paca on Apr 15, 2012 12:21:33 GMT -5
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Post by hibou on Apr 15, 2012 17:23:14 GMT -5
I guess since the flagship of Monaco sunk, Charlotte is now replacing her. I still think it was interesting for Albert to walk in with Charlotte at the ball.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2012 18:54:54 GMT -5
I guess since the flagship of Monaco sunk, Charlotte is now replacing her. I still think it was interesting for Albert to walk in with Charlotte at the ball. I agree with you.
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Post by paca on Apr 15, 2012 19:15:39 GMT -5
I guess since the flagship of Monaco sunk, Charlotte is now replacing her. I still think it was interesting for Albert to walk in with Charlotte at the ball. BUt that was only in the entrance hall. If you look at the footage, you see that Albert goes into the ballroom with trashy. I suppose most people didn't even realize that they came seperately. Otherwise I bet that would have been the talk of the evening.
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Post by MadameConcorde on May 8, 2012 12:33:51 GMT -5
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Post by paca on May 13, 2012 17:01:07 GMT -5
seems hat Charlotte has sued voici. They are pretty miffed about it. There is a large article about this. apparently she got paid pretty well. They are comparing the media coverage of DSKs private life and judges allowing it and then their treatment of Charlotte...I bet the judge was male in Charlottes case. Personally I think that she knows that she is being photographed and if she wants quiet time, then she should avoid in spots. If she goes where photographers go, because they have a good chance of getting a pic they can sell, then she has to livewith it. She is in a public space, not at home or in in area where she can expect privacy. I don't understand why voici didn't appeal. They could have gone till the European court. Judges there thik differently on these matters and if they reallywant that law changed, then taking it to the last instance will send a message to judges at home, if you win. www.voici.fr/news-people/voici-le-mag/en-une-de-voici-lorie-et-charlotte-casiraghi-449497
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Post by MyAdia on May 19, 2012 4:31:49 GMT -5
The New York Times has another great article about Charlotte. Charlotte declined to be interviewed for the article (royal ass-kisser Stephane Bern was interviewed), but it is still very complimentary. What is really noticeable is that contrary to what Charlene and her team of flunkies have been trying to cultivate, Charlene does not register in the fashion world. No one cares about her.
Independence From Monaco By ELAINE SCIOLINO May 18, 2012 Charlotte Casiraghi, an avid equestrian, at a polo match in Dubai in February.
WHEN you think of the Grimaldi girls of Monaco, you think of Caroline and Stéphanie, the young princesses whose preternatural beauty, jet-setting ways and tabloid-ready romances long made them paparazzi favorites.
So it comes as a shock to learn they are now middle-aged women, with Caroline actually older than their mother, Princess Grace, was when she died in a car accident at age 52.
Now the spotlight is falling on a third generation of Grimaldis, most notably on Charlotte Casiraghi, the 25-year-old daughter of Caroline and her second husband, Stephano Casiraghi, a young Italian businessman who died in a speedboat accident when Charlotte was 4.
To flee the relentless eye of the public and the press, Caroline whisked Charlotte and her two siblings off to a sheltered life, first to a country house in southern France, then to Fontainebleau, near Paris, when Caroline remarried.
Over the years, Charlotte showed up on the paparazzi radar screen episodically. Like the time a survey declared her one of the most eligible young women in the world — when she was only 16.
Now she is coming out in a different and very public way: by posing for the fashion cameras. Last fall, Vogue France featured her on its cover, with a 24-page fashion shoot inside. She wore Cartier diamond earrings, suede Louboutin pumps and clothes by Dior, Chanel and Céline, among others.
Earlier this year, she made her debut as the new face of Gucci, in an ambitious advertising campaign that celebrates her passion for competitive show jumping.
Charlotte “not only embodies the beauty and the grace of the equestrian, but is also a wonderful ambassador for the sport,” Frida Giannini, Gucci’s creative director, said when the campaign began.
Ms. Casiraghi’s work seems linked to a desire to create her own identity and assert her independence from Monaco, a Mediterranean tax haven a little more than half the size of Central Park.
“She has an opportunity to step out into real life and say, ‘Oh, I’m here!’ ” said Peter Lindbergh, who photographed Ms. Casiraghi for the Gucci campaign and has known her and her family for years. “It was a big decision for her, to get out of the house and get involved with advertising.”
Just don’t call her a model. “Protagonist” is the word Gucci uses to define Ms. Casiraghi’s role in its campaign, entitled “Forever Now.”
Ms. Casiraghi insists she is promoting only the Gucci “spirit,” not Gucci products.
“I’ve always refused to associate myself with a brand,” she told French Elle. The ad campaign “pays homage to the Gucci spirit, to 90 years of the history of the house, to our common passion for horsemanship. I do not represent any product or any collection.”
Her life could have turned out differently. She could have stayed in Monaco as an accessory to the court of her uncle Prince Albert II. Even though she is not a princess, she is fourth in line to the princely throne. (Her father was a commoner, and titles in Monaco are not transmitted through the mother.)
“I’m not a princess,” she told French Vogue. “My mother is, not I. I am the niece of a head of state. And with this status, I have some representational duties, nothing very constraining or very exceptional.”
As a student, she was considered gifted but failed to make it into the École Normale Supérieure, one of France’s elite grandes écoles. She studied philosophy at the Sorbonne instead.
She evolved into a competitive equestrian and a lover of expensive clothes and has dabbled in writing, editing and videography. She lives much of the time in Paris. She rarely talks to the press, and when she does, access is brief. (She declined through her representatives to be interviewed for this article.)
She appears only occasionally at official events in Monaco, and when she does, she glows. With her full lips, sultry eyes and loose, long chestnut hair that whips across her face in the wind, she is so strikingly beautiful that even staid diplomats gush.
“She is a stunning, luminous person,” said Hugues Moret, the French ambassador to Monaco. “She glows from the inside and radiates beauty and soft warmth.”
Wearing a cornflower-blue strapless Chanel gown with diamond and platinum jewelry at this year’s gala fund-raiser, Bal de la Rose, she stole the spotlight from Princess Charlene, Albert’s South African-born bride. And she played second fiddle only to the bride at their wedding last year, wearing a pink off-the-shoulder Chanel confection.
Despite her status as a commoner, her pedigree can be a burden. Her relationship withAlex Dellal, a London gallery owner, which apparently ended in late 2011, was documented in celebrity magazines and on the Internet.
Her 24-year-old brother, Pierre Casiraghi, was in the news in February because of an altercation at the Double Seven, a club in the meatpacking district in New York. He was briefly hospitalized.
In January, the weekly Paris Match and three French celebrity magazines ran cover articles linking her romantically with Gad Elmaleh, one of France’s best-known comedic actors, who is 16 years her senior. “The Amorous Weekend of the Princess and the Humorist” ran the cover headline of Paris Match. One photo showed Ms. Casiraghi, in sneakers and without makeup, ostensibly leaving his Paris apartment on Sunday afternoon, the day after she arrived.
Ms. Casiraghi sued the magazines, not only in civil court but — in an unusual step — in criminal court as well.
It is common practice for publications in Europe to pay stiff fines for what is considered an invasion of “private life,” but in this case, the judge went much further. Paris Match was required to run a large black-and-white banner across the bottom of a cover informing readers that it had been “condemned” in civil court for violating her rights. The criminal case is pending.
The Gucci ad campaign builds on a long and comfortable relationship the fashion house has with her family. Princess Grace (who, as Grace Kelly, modeled briefly in New York before becoming an Oscar-winning actress and a princess) was one of its most important clients. Gucci even made a scarf for her, called the Flora. Princess Caroline also wears Gucci from time to time.
As for Ms. Casiraghi, Ms. Giannini, the Gucci creative director, has designed an equestrian wardrobe for her for the last three years. The company has also sponsored her equestrian activities, although the amount of support has not been made public.
According to Stéphane Bern, the French celebrity journalist who has covered the principality and its first family for years, Ms. Casiraghi offered to participate in the campaign because she needed money to support her horses.
“She has absolutely no interest in being a model, she’s much too intelligent for that,” Mr. Bern said. “But competing in horse competitions costs a lot of money. You have to transport your horses one day to Dubai, the next day to Spain, pay for their care, the trainer. Gucci helps by writing checks with lots of zeros.”
Ms. Casiraghi’s new partnership with the brand expands their relationship. She has already posed for Mr. Lindbergh, whose images focus on the red- and green-striped Gucci webbing. She resisted dressing in all-Gucci, and she pushed to wear her own crimson-red vintage Gucci jacket.
She will pose for three other famous photographers in celebrating other symbols of Gucci’s horse-loving spirit. (Next comes the Gucci bit for horses.)
“She’s a marvelous, marvelous kid,” Mr. Lindbergh said. “In the pictures I took, she looks exactly the way I see her in normal life. People say she’s not a princess. But the way I see it, Gucci has a princess now.”
There’s a potential risk, however.
“Honestly, it’s rare to see someone so smart in this milieu,” Mr. Bern said. “But there’s a contradiction. She’s so intelligent, and this is such a frivolous world.”
A version of this article appeared in print on May 20, 2012, on page ST1 of the National edition with the headline: Independence From Monaco.
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Post by MyAdia on May 19, 2012 4:43:58 GMT -5
Time magazine has selected Charlotte's appearance last night at Cannes as one of " The Best Fashion Moments from the 2012 Cannes Film Festival." Charlotte appears in slide #8. CANNES, FRANCE - MAY 18: Charlotte Casiraghi attends the 'Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted' Premiere during the 65th Annual Cannes Film Festival at Palais des Festivals on May 18, 2012 in Cannes, France.Charlotte Casiraghi poses next to French actor Charles Berling and his wife Camille Japy
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