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Post by agentf on Jul 16, 2012 14:20:43 GMT -5
Sweet! I love the mood. Nice choice of ring. Not my taste but a good rock. I guess Gad Elmaleh is a reality as Charlotte's BF. He's the one with the yellow fez on board. At least, they'll have a good laugh with him. Congratulations lovebirds!! Yaaaaayyyyy! cut ' ANDREA CASÝRAGHÝ AND TATAÝANA SANTO DOMÝNGO CELEBRATE THEÝR ENGAGEMENT
Andrea Casiraghi and Tatiana Santo Domingo celebrating their engagement aboard Princess Caroline's yacht the Pacha III in St. Jean Cap Ferrat, France on July 15, 2012. The couple was joined by Andrea's sister Princess Alexandra, Princess Caroline and Charlotte Casiraghi at a private villa were they continued to celebrate.'cut myroyal-myroyals.blogspot.be/2012/07/andrea-casiraghi-and-tataiana-santo.html
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Post by paca on Jul 16, 2012 14:24:32 GMT -5
LOL the ring looks like the one trashy was sporting. IMO too big. Not liking it. Neither that banana bag she is carrying. But who knows, maybe they are having some motto party...
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Post by paca on Jul 16, 2012 14:31:41 GMT -5
Sweet! I love the mood. Nice choice of ring. Not my taste but a good rock. I guess Gad Elmaleh is a reality as Charlotte's BF. He's the one with the yellow fez on board. At least, they'll have a good laugh with him. Congratulations lovebirds!! Yaaaaayyyyy! cut ' ANDREA CASÝRAGHÝ AND TATAÝANA SANTO DOMÝNGO CELEBRATE THEÝR ENGAGEMENT
Andrea Casiraghi and Tatiana Santo Domingo celebrating their engagement aboard Princess Caroline's yacht the Pacha III in St. Jean Cap Ferrat, France on July 15, 2012. The couple was joined by Andrea's sister Princess Alexandra, Princess Caroline and Charlotte Casiraghi at a private villa were they continued to celebrate.'cut myroyal-myroyals.blogspot.be/2012/07/andrea-casiraghi-and-tataiana-santo.html you sure it's Gad? Is he that tall?
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Post by refia on Jul 16, 2012 16:09:11 GMT -5
LOL the ring looks like the one trashy was sporting. IMO too big. Not liking it. Neither that banana bag she is carrying. But who knows, maybe they are having some motto party... I love yellow stones tbh. At least it´s hers and won´t be switched with a smaller one ;D
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Post by paca on Jul 16, 2012 16:18:56 GMT -5
LOL the ring looks like the one trashy was sporting. IMO too big. Not liking it. Neither that banana bag she is carrying. But who knows, maybe they are having some motto party... I love yellow stones tbh. At least it´s hers and won´t be switched with a smaller one ;D LOL yes that was a funny business to see it changed after we criticised it. Still I personally don't like the ring, but who knows what I'd say if some gorgeous guy would put sth like that on my finger...it's not really like you accept the proposal and then tell the guy to change the ring for sth smaller and less flashy....
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Post by agentf on Jul 16, 2012 17:50:03 GMT -5
Let's for argument's sake say that Albert had some kind of arrangement whereby he'd hold the reigns for the first year of his marriage, then leave the spotlight to the kids. To me, I seriously think Andrea had to WAIT for Albert to get married first. It's obvious. So, it tells me there was some family strategy going on. Now, I can't shake the image at the Jumping of Caroline looking intensely at her brother while Charlotte was chatting. This was after the news of the engagement, if I'm correct. She would be on edge if she had to rely on Albert's whim. It tells me Albert held the balance of power over something. My thoughts aren't entirely filtered yet (there's a heatwave here and my brain is melting) but I do think they made a deal of some kind and, wishing for the best case scenario, I'd like to think Albert may have put the Grimaldi family before his personal needs. I of course don't know what the deal would be, but if he wanted, he could still make a graceful exit and/or pull out of a bad move. Call me optimistic.
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Post by smt on Jul 16, 2012 19:18:21 GMT -5
I'm assuming that Fat Al and Trampolina didn't attend because of the obvious? Jealousy!
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Post by paca on Jul 16, 2012 19:43:47 GMT -5
Let's for argument's sake say that Albert had some kind of arrangement whereby he'd hold the reigns for the first year of his marriage, then leave the spotlight to the kids. To me, I seriously think Andrea had to WAIT for Albert to get married first. It's obvious. So, it tells me there was some family strategy going on. Now, I can't shake the image at the Jumping of Caroline looking intensely at her brother while Charlotte was chatting. This was after the news of the engagement, if I'm correct. She would be on edge if she had to rely on Albert's whim. It tells me Albert held the balance of power over something. My thoughts aren't entirely filtered yet (there's a heatwave here and my brain is melting) but I do think they made a deal of some kind and, wishing for the best case scenario, I'd like to think Albert may have put the Grimaldi family before his personal needs. I of course don't know what the deal would be, but if he wanted, he could still make a graceful exit and/or pull out of a bad move. Call me optimistic. an arrangement that cost 70 million Euro? I find that hard to believe. Yes I do think that Andrea could not get married before his uncle as long as there was a possibility that his uncle would marry, just like Rainier was not allowed to die before the pope had died. It's a matter of importance and seniority. What I could believe thoug is thatthere is sth like a 5 year clause or sth along those lines. I really do not think that Albert will stay married to trashy without a baby. Now it has been a year and still nothing. I still think that she has another year or 2 to ge pregnant. As soon as Tatiana has a baby her days are numbered though. I can believe that Caro and Albert in view of his age might have decide to give it go within sth like 5 years. After that trashy would be getting too old and chances of a pregnancy slimmer as well as Alberts chances to see a child grow up....
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Post by maxima25 on Jul 17, 2012 17:43:17 GMT -5
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Post by refia on Jul 17, 2012 17:52:10 GMT -5
Either she ate beans or she is really pregnant! I hope so
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Post by agentf on Jul 17, 2012 17:54:14 GMT -5
I usually don't get excited about baby bump watching but I like what I see. Mind you, I've started looking like that recently. In my humble little world, I have sent tongues wagging about being the most 'retardataire' ;D of all women anywhere LOL Alas, my bump is just stress . I hope hers is the real thing. Having said that, I would maybe be nervous at the extremes the Wittstocks would go to, though I'm sure neither Casiraghis or Santo Domingo need reinforcements.
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Post by agentf on Jul 17, 2012 18:18:27 GMT -5
You know, I think they got married. Andrea in the suit and tie, the whole little group on the Pacha. You can get married at sea, it's a lot less complicated. My hunch says they did it.
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Post by paca on Jul 18, 2012 5:48:59 GMT -5
Well she certainly is pregnant and it surely explains Lynette going on a hate spree, especially with the slants against Caro and her pregnancies. It also explains the sourfaced trashy, who has nothing to show after a year of marriage aprat from a chopped up face. There was sth about them getting married in spring, but I think that the baby is due way before that, so it is surely going to be soon, probably in St Remy and very private. I do think though that they are not married yet, but will very soon be married. Yes they can be married on a boat too, but I think that it is going to be St Remy as they have more privacy there. If they had it on the Pacha, you would have all the paps there noticing. And they wouldn't even be near the Pacha.
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Post by agentf on Jul 18, 2012 6:14:31 GMT -5
At sea, you get the civil union out of the way. Next would be the religious ceremony. I honestly think they did it. I think they did it for Stefano. I think wherever his soul rests, traumatized by his death at sea, it rests much better now. I'm getting teary. I'm getting to be such a silly old goat Back to the hate campaign, yes I imagine that anyone's happy event(s) would bring out the venom of such envious people as the Wittstocks. It's time they got the boot in my opinion. And an unceremonial one. By the way, I think those numbers about last year's wedding are inflated. I'd cut my losses and wouldn't blink twice (given I'd be so loaded to begin with!) if it meant the happiness of the whole versus the greed of one. I think Albert is capable of coming up the middle and making the day. Call me stupid.
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Post by paca on Jul 18, 2012 6:27:04 GMT -5
But if you would do it on the boat, you would do it on deck and not inside, would you? Also they would have to have had an official on the boat as well. Especially in Andreas case. There would have to be an MC official present. The kind of captains used on yachts do not have the authority to hold a marriage.
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Post by agentf on Jul 18, 2012 6:31:34 GMT -5
I think Maritime Law might disagree with you. Any captain will do, if I'm not mistaken, for centuries. Clarifications (Code Civil français): 1) articles 988 et 86 du Code civil, le capitaine de navire a les fonctions de l'officier de l'état civil 2) Selon l'article 165 du code, le mariage doit etre célébré devant l'officier public de la commune de domicile ou de résidence d'un des deux époux. De plus les articles 988 et 86 du code civil ne donne pas au capitaine le statut d'officier d'état civil, ils précisent simplement que dans des cas particuliers où il n'y a pas d'officier d'Etat civil et où il n'est pas possible d'en contacter un. So you're partly right but I say, they did it. I say they did it precisely not on deck for privacy. I say there were more people on board than what we saw. There are no pics of Charlotte but she was there if her new BF was on deck. Ergo, there could have been a Monaco official.
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Post by hibou on Jul 18, 2012 7:34:08 GMT -5
Interesting idea that they would marry on the boat, but Pierre was MIA. So I don't think they did. I think it was an engagement party of sorts. Also I thought I read they were getting married near Caroline's home in France. What would that do to Andrea's position for the throne if they married outside of Monaco? I don't think that Albert or Charlene want another wedding in Monaco because it will distract from their "love story" and because Andrea and Tatiana are the real deal. The comparison would be obvious and the crowds for real.
Charlene is now what 34 or 35? Her days are numbered by age. I too think the LA trip was to see if she'd like to live in the US. I doubt Albert would want her any where in Europe. Nicole seems to have disappeared, so my guess is they are looking for a place to put Charlene when the deal is over.
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Post by paca on Jul 18, 2012 7:36:48 GMT -5
there are different capitain patents. pretty much like driving licenses. The one you need for a yacht is not one you need for a cruise ship or a tanker. Most yacht captains do not have the right patent. Or as my dad used to put it: those who work on yachts are of no use on normal ships. They are not real seamen. Of course there are different requirements depending on the size of a yacht, but the Pacha is a relatively small one, so a small patent is sufficient.
Also I do not think that the person you think is Elmaleh is really him. Elmaleh is relatively short and the one you pointed out is taller then Andrea. Significantly taller. And younger. Not mentioning that he has the same haircolour as Andrea. He would have to be 1,90 at least seeing that Andrea just about reaches his shoulder. And if you look at pics of Elmaleh and Charlotte, you will notice that he is not much taller then her.
I also did not see Pierre on the boat, but most importantly I do not see a wedding band on her finger.
I really think they only had a party for the engagement and the wedding will be held in St Remy, where they have plenty of privacy and good childhood memories. It also seems the kind of rural setting for a wedding Tatiana might like.
Of course you are free to believe that they are already married, but I think that they will be getting married quietly. Seeing that they went back to MC I could imagine that they may hold a small civil ceremony in MC now and the church wedding later. I could even imagine that they would wait until after the birth of the baby and then have the church wedding and the baptism at the same time. That would go along with a spring wedding in St Remy as I have read. Considering the belly, I'd say the baby is about mid pregnancy, so due in winter....
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Post by paca on Jul 18, 2012 7:58:16 GMT -5
Interesting idea that they would marry on the boat, but Pierre was MIA. So I don't think they did. I think it was an engagement party of sorts. Also I thought I read they were getting married near Caroline's home in France. What would that do to Andrea's position for the throne if they married outside of Monaco? I don't think that Albert or Charlene want another wedding in Monaco because it will distract from their "love story" and because Andrea and Tatiana are the real deal. The comparison would be obvious and the crowds for real. Charlene is now what 34 or 35? Her days are numbered by age. I too think the LA trip was to see if she'd like to live in the US. I doubt Albert would want her any where in Europe. Nicole seems to have disappeared, so my guess is they are looking for a place to put Charlene when the deal is over. where Andrea get's married is of no consequence to his position to the throne. For the marriage to be valid with reagrds to MC in his particular position, there would have to be an MC official present who can testify to it's validity. But that has nothing to do with Andrea but with the baby being legitimate. Of course Caroline is a good witness, but I think it has to be someone representing the people of MC as they are the ones concerned with the legitimacy of a baby and possible heir. That is why IMO it is likely that they will have a civil ceremony quietly in the cityhall these coming weeks. Like Caro did with Ernst. And a small get together in Caros home. I think a bigger party will take place later in ST Remy. If this year or after the birth of the baby is pretty irrelevant. But I don't think that they will have it in MC.Not so much because of Albert and trashy, but because they don't want it and it is not their style. I don't think that Albert would have a problem with it at all. Trashy yes. She and Lynette would be really mad. But Albert, IMO would be too happy to have it in MC. It would be another positive distraction for people in MC. Especially with Tatiana already pregnant, so an heir already in sight. IMO trashy really is doomed now as the Monegasques really do not like her, she still has no baby, doesn't speak French etc, whereas Tatiana is fluent in French (her late dad collected French books) and other languages and provides a baby straight away. although the conservatives might wag their tongues a little about the pregnant bride, as soon as the baby is there, they will adopt her and the child straight away. It will also put Andrea up in their respect as to them it shows your sense of responsibility to have a child at that age and get married. In any case it would all provide good timing to divorce trashy. No one would really notice that she is gone. As to where she will be living after a divorce is pretty irrelevant. SHe certainly won't be living in La Turbie or MC And since she doesn't speak French, probably some English speaking country. She doesn't want to go back to SA, so there isn't so much choice. I suspect that Australia and Canada are out of the question, so it would either be London, NY or LA. With her silly mind she will probably chose LA and do shows like dancing with stars or some other reality TV...
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Post by vamilkshake on Jul 18, 2012 10:18:49 GMT -5
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