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Post by agentf on Jan 23, 2013 13:12:43 GMT -5
That's heavy, Paca. It's a rallye. The cars are padded and equipped for the challenges. My god, what a sad life it would be if Caroline had to keep him under her skirts until she kicked the bucket. Oppressing men is not the way to go, it backfires. Granted, Stefano died but he had help in that department otherwise, he was quite skilled. I don't see how this is good? He is racing at the historic ralley. His mom, dad and uncle did Paris Dakar. Steph dated racers and did a little stint in racing cars until her dad interfered His dad died in a dangerous sport. It only shows to me that Pierre is setting himself on the track of bored rich kids looking for an adrenalin kick. I can't see anything positiv about this for MC. I know he is not the only one to do this, but there seems to be some kind of partern with those coming in later to feel the need to prove their virility by seeking danger in other fields: Harry, Carl-philip and Albert did too while he was kept out of matters during Rainiers reign. Stefano did too having o play second fiddle behind Caro and being more competent then Albert. It also in light of his still on going lawsuit shows that he seems tobe looking for trouble. Maybe he is using the ralley as a relief valve, but if that is the case, then he might end up making reckless manouvres. Also interesting that this happens just as he is about to be bumped further down the line and into insignificance.... Caro needs to speak to him and find him sth to do that fulfills him and he can get passionate about. He may be a grown up, but I think that Caro missed out on a few bits in her parenting with the boys. SHe needs to correct a few things and point out what she expects of him. Maybe se should take him on a few of her charity missions to set him straight. She did that with Andrea and help from Tatiana to calm him down. Might work for Pierre too.
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Post by hibou on Jan 23, 2013 16:50:38 GMT -5
I don't see how this is good? He is racing at the historic ralley. His mom, dad and uncle did Paris Dakar. Steph dated racers and did a little stint in racing cars until her dad interfered His dad died in a dangerous sport. It only shows to me that Pierre is setting himself on the track of bored rich kids looking for an adrenalin kick. I can't see anything positiv about this for MC. I know he is not the only one to do this, but there seems to be some kind of partern with those coming in later to feel the need to prove their virility by seeking danger in other fields: Harry, Carl-philip and Albert did too while he was kept out of matters during Rainiers reign. Stefano did too having o play second fiddle behind Caro and being more competent then Albert. It also in light of his still on going lawsuit shows that he seems tobe looking for trouble. Maybe he is using the ralley as a relief valve, but if that is the case, then he might end up making reckless manouvres. Also interesting that this happens just as he is about to be bumped further down the line and into insignificance.... Caro needs to speak to him and find him sth to do that fulfills him and he can get passionate about. He may be a grown up, but I think that Caro missed out on a few bits in her parenting with the boys. SHe needs to correct a few things and point out what she expects of him. Maybe se should take him on a few of her charity missions to set him straight. She did that with Andrea and help from Tatiana to calm him down. Might work for Pierre too. I agree paca. Others his age are already working and settling down. He needs more structure in his life. I thought Bea actually might provide that, but apparently not. Wealthy kids take more risks because they have the money to do so, and when you have it all, the thrills come with more danger and a bigger price tag attached.
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Post by agentf on Jan 23, 2013 17:24:30 GMT -5
It doesn't stop Richard Branson. How old is he?
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Post by margarita on Jan 24, 2013 1:50:01 GMT -5
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Post by paca on Jan 24, 2013 6:18:11 GMT -5
It doesn't stop Richard Branson. How old is he? LOL same thing. People who have reached everything, especially by taking high risks, tend to look for new challenges to get that kick again. You know what happened to his rival Picard eventually. Some people end up taking drugs, for others it's adrenalin and some decide on launching themselves into the game of politics to feast on power. IMO it is a need to give meaning to their lives and they won't stop until they found it or destroyed themselves. There is a nice passage in Zarathustra. Nietsche accuses them of being so extremely busy and restless, because they are so empty inside and that they are actually ready for the messenge of death. Although neither Nietsche nor I are psychologists, but I think what he observed in overly busy people was a kind of unacknowledged depression. Nowadays they found a new label for those workaholics that end up with depression: they call it burnout. But basically burnout is the result of being overbusy to prevent people from having to deal with their real problems. Burnout eventually forces them to stop and acknowledge their problems and deal with them. Burnout is just the new fancy label they invented for the hipsters to avoid calling it an ordinary depression. Because depression has a bad image. Losers have depressions; Hipsters have burnout. And those with money either spend it on drugs or dangerous sports. Or normal sports practiced dangerously, like skiing off the slopes with a high risk of avalanches or simply refusing to wear a helmet....others take to driving after drinking or avoiding to wear a seatbelt, because it crinkles the shirt... everyone knows the risks and most people take precautions, but some people seem to have an inner need to take risks. IMO Pierre is too old to fall in the young and stupid category anymore. I suppose if he was a girl, he would probably get pregnant to fill that void...
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Post by agentf on Jan 24, 2013 7:25:12 GMT -5
That's a melting pot of pop psychology, Paca. Have you considered some people that are born for greatness simply can't settle for mundane occupations? Have you ruled out those whose genes are descended from great warriors for instance, for who the doldrum existence of the lazy 21st century just doesn't cut it? I imagine maybe a great great grandson or daughter of our favourite guy Napoleon finding today's world reeeeaaallly boring and perhaps even having some unnamed depression over it. You also have to be careful when casting these diagnoses that it's not transference from one's own subconscious. We have to accept our misery as much as our greatness, and our pastimes are ours to fill the greater void that is the universe. I for one am not volunteering for sensational pursuits but in my youth, I did as youth dictated.
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Post by paca on Jan 24, 2013 16:56:30 GMT -5
LOL I think the world is covered with people who think they are born for greatness helas they lack what it takes. Looking around myself and looking at what I seee in the media, I don't see any greatness or genious. I also don't think that genious runs in the genes. We just have to face it that a lot of us are mere average, some of us are above average and the majority is below average. Sadly most politicians seem to hail from below average quaters.
The fascination for Napoleon has always escaped me. But I guess in his time you had to slaughter as many as possible to be adored, these day you need to be a nerd with money. During Napoleons time the likes of Saddam, Assad and Gaddafi would have been rather normal and it's not long that all of them have been courted by western governments. Monsters only seem to become monsters when they start to become weak and less frightening. And that is the moment when people dare to attack them.
as to do as youth do, I think everyone has their share...more or less. But most of us move on and grow up, take responsibilities. Pierre is at an age where he can no longe claim youth as his excuse for continuing his playboy ways. He doesn't like to be seen as a playboy, but if you don't do anything really, what are people supposed to call you? You can't go around and complain about people judging you and then do exactly what supports their view of you, especially if that is all they ever get to see of you. That's exactly the tune ALbert keeps using to whine how he and trashy are hard done by and misjudged. And then they go out and show you that not they are being misjudged, but they are misjudging themselves.
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Post by agentf on Jan 25, 2013 14:36:01 GMT -5
I was being facetious about Napoleon. In Pierre's case, I don't think he asked anyone for their opinion. Whether observers want to put words in his mouth or attribute thoughts to him that aren't his, is their prerogative but there's a fine line where the authorship for one's life is your own, and you can only lend yourself so much to the game of being a caged animal for the entertainment of others. Because life will pass and you'll have lived by someone else's script. Of course, it's absolutely hypocritical of me to say, given I freely give my opinion, speculate about other people's states of mind etc. Otherwise, if I were Pierre, if people labelled me a playboy - whether by default or by prejudice - I certainly wouldn't satisfy them either way by radically changing my habits to please others nor comport myself worse in reaction to what others think of me. I'd just be me. God, I should be paid for this. I have such a headache now from all these mental aerobics. Paca, you're making me work!!!
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Post by margarita on Jan 28, 2013 7:30:58 GMT -5
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Post by agentf on Jan 28, 2013 7:50:11 GMT -5
Beatrice's hair looks incredibly healthy. They look so nice together. Just the simple way he has of placing his hand on her forearm, while he poses and talks. Even the doggie came to wish him well. I bet it wishes it went along for the car ride! Very sweet. I wish they'd have shown the car more. It looked really pimped out.
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Post by margarita on Feb 1, 2013 9:23:14 GMT -5
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Post by paca on Feb 1, 2013 10:04:06 GMT -5
So he came in 157. Apparently only 17 cars came in behind him and 48 cars abandonned. BTW his co pilot is a male model it seems.
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Post by agentf on Feb 1, 2013 13:10:13 GMT -5
At least he didn't kill himself trying and he was a sport about it. Nobody likes a show-off anyway.
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Post by hibou on Feb 1, 2013 17:01:34 GMT -5
At least he didn't kill himself trying and he was a sport about it. Nobody likes a show-off anyway. May be he got it out of his system, but I had another thought, may be he is going to be groomed to take over the duties at the Grand Prix eventually: Pauline the circus, Pierre the Grand Prix, Charlotte the fashion. What's going to be left for Charlene?
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Post by paca on Feb 1, 2013 17:49:40 GMT -5
he might be volunteering himself fr take over of the automobile club. There is a lot of money o be had and they don't ever publish there numbers. If you don't have a foundation, you need independent income...
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Post by MyAdia on Feb 4, 2013 17:43:00 GMT -5
Here's an update on the thug who beat up Pierre and then tried to mask his crime by beating up Pierre's reputation in the media. The thug realized that his con did not worked and today instead of starting his criminal trial he plead guilty to a lesser crime of disorderly conduct. The plea agreement included the thug doing 10 days of community services and 36 hours of court-administrated anger management classes. Seriously, the DA filed charges relatively immediately because they had indisputable evidence (credible non-bias witness and video tape) that Hock started this brawl and Pierre did non of the brutish behavior that the thug accused him of. I am glad that Pierre stood up too this BULLY. Here's one witness account of what really happened. What’s the alternate version of the tabloids’ story? According to the eyewitness, it all started when Jah spotted Stavros Niarchos, most famous as Paris Hilton’s ex-beau, with Casiraghi and invited the group to have a drink at his crowded table. Before Casiraghi sat down, one of Hock’s friends allegedly accosted the young royal: “What are you doing? This is my table.” As the witness tells it, Casiraghi apologized, put his drink down, and walked away. He didn’t see Hock hit Marroquin square in the face, but he heard Roitfeld hit the ground. Moments later, he, too, was blindsided by Hock with a blow to the head that sent him flying through the air and onto a table full of glasses.
“It was completely unilateral aggression,” the witness said. “There was blood everywhere. [Casiraghi] tried to stand up and then blacked out.”
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Post by MyAdia on Feb 4, 2013 17:54:06 GMT -5
I think Pierre should still go after the thug civilly because he STILL hasn't learn his lesson. Hock is still trying to play the victim when he clearly isn't! Plea deals of lesser charges is the norm (90% of criminal cases in the U.S. end in plea bargain - only 10% go to trial) and just because you take a plea of a lesser charge does NOT mean that you did not commit the original charge. Hock is hoping everyone else is just as dumb as he is. Hock’s attorney, Joseph Tacopina, said the plea was not an admission of guilt to assaulting or harassing anyone at the club, only to involvement in what amounted to “a bar scrum.”
“I said on Day One he would not admit to assault or striking these people in a criminal manner,” the lawyer said.
Hock, who was a part-owner of Hawaiian Tropic Zone, said he is now a co-founder of the Independent Libya Foundation, a philanthropic group.
He was originally charged with multiple counts of misdemeanor assault for injuring Casiraghi and his pals, was also ordered to stay away from the royal’s crew — Stavros Niarchos, Vladimir Restoin Roitfeld and Diego Marroquin. He could have faced up to a year in jail if convicted of assault.
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Post by MyAdia on Feb 4, 2013 18:00:43 GMT -5
Unlike their Uncle Albert who married the equivalent of Honey Boo Boo, Pierre and Andrea's girlfriend have a brain. here are links to two articles that Beatrice has written for Newsweek/The Daily Beast. Here's what her bio states: Beatrice Borromeo is an Italian author and journalist who covers the mafia extensively. Marisa Merico, the Woman Behind the MobFeb 5, 2013 Forget ‘The Godfather.’ The real-life story of how a daughter inherits a kingdom of drugs, guns, and money. .... The Mafia’s Public Enemy Number One: Italian Prosecutor Nicola GratteriJun 14, 2012 Death threats, security escorts and drug lords—just a day in the life of Nicola Gratteri. ...
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Post by agentf on Feb 4, 2013 19:01:48 GMT -5
Unlike their Uncle Albert who married the equivalent of Honey Boo Boo, Pierre and Andrea's girlfriend have a brain. here are links to two articles that Beatrice has written for Newsweek/The Daily Beast. Here's what her bio states: Beatrice Borromeo is an Italian author and journalist who covers the mafia extensively. Marisa Merico, the Woman Behind the MobFeb 5, 2013 Forget ‘The Godfather.’ The real-life story of how a daughter inherits a kingdom of drugs, guns, and money. .... The Mafia’s Public Enemy Number One: Italian Prosecutor Nicola GratteriJun 14, 2012 Death threats, security escorts and drug lords—just a day in the life of Nicola Gratteri. ... Madonna mia! Lei va darmi una crisi di cuore! Non ci esisterebbe un' soggetto meno esplosivo? Pensate alla maniera da quale è morto Stefano, per l'amore di Dio!!! (faints) Seriously, I laud Beatrice but I'm getting grey hairs at the thought of making enemies. Mind you, Italians aren't Chechens - thank God.
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Post by agentf on Feb 5, 2013 13:30:15 GMT -5
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