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Post by paca on Aug 23, 2012 10:32:47 GMT -5
So after bashing Harry they are now into the police officers. Not that it is an excuse or changes anything, but they certainly weren't doing their job. But I guess they won't be doing it very much longer. Ithink they are in greater trouble then Harry. I still believe though that reporting is mostly besides the real point. Nothing wrong with having fun and partying. But Harry seems to be either having a death wish, pushing for front duty, or getting himself into trouble. IMO he is suffering a kind of depression.His lifestyle is deflecting from his real issues. Some introspection might do him some good. The cheering on from the likes of Piers Morgan or courtney love is not helpful www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2192282/Prince-Harry-Vegas-pictures-Palace-fury-naked-photos-seen-worldwide-online.html
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Post by agentf on Aug 24, 2012 12:21:49 GMT -5
You have to admit the Brits don't have sex scandals with any panache whatsoever.
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Post by paca on Aug 24, 2012 13:48:38 GMT -5
well, honestly at least he doesn't want to be anyones tampon and seems to be ok with his naked body. And not in a narcistic kind of way. I rather have a look at his nude pics then Albert in a hot tub with trashy sucking his nipples or plain Albert in a boat with a nude torso. I don't think that anyone ever made much fuss about Albert jumping nude from a boat in his younger years, but I guess that is because even in his younger and athletic years he did not have Harrys body.
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Post by refia on Aug 24, 2012 16:19:14 GMT -5
The whole timing couldn´t have been worse. His tour was successful, he got an award for his charity and presented the the RF at the Oympics and then this.
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Post by agentf on Aug 25, 2012 6:20:42 GMT -5
Didn't Steve Wynn get Monaco citizenship a few years back for a casino deal? It's so easy to plant a girl in Harry's entourage when he's so not guarded. It smells of smear campaign. Albert is no stranger to Vegas, as we know. Frankly, I think Harry's obviously a bad pool player and juvenile for being in his mid-20s. He's also a lush. They blame one of his sidekicks for always getting him in trouble. I'm going to up that and say this is royal bitchery from a jealous house like Monaco. You don't play the jealousy card if you don't ave issues with jealousy yourself. And we know that's become a mantra in Monaco. They're low tactics to try to take the Brit royals to Monaco standards. What more perfect target than a hapless immature prince?
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Post by paca on Aug 25, 2012 8:04:15 GMT -5
LOL apparently he was only wearing shorts to begin with, so one fail and he was nude Yes the wynns are doing business with the Grimaldis. I doubt though that they would set up the BRF to humour trashlene. I am sure they'd prefer to be known for their connection to the BRF then to the Grimaldis. The BRF opens more doors. And you can bet that a guy with as many surgeries as trashy will want to be friends with the BRF more then anything. The landon guy sounds pretty dim witted and trouble. Way too much money for a small mind. The minders certainly mucked up and will be removed from the assignment. But nontheless Harry needs to address his issues and develop better judgment. Of course the easiest way is to blame the minders and the entourage or those girls. But Harry is the one who choses his friends and who is boss of the minders. And he is the one who invited the girls to begin with. Several things went wrong, which can be controlled, but Harry is after all the main issue. And that has nothing to do with liking him or not. Someone missed out on setting a few things straight with him as he grew up. Now he has to learn the hard way. Leaving raising your kids to hired help eventually bites you in the butt. That's how Albert, ANdrew and many others got to be who they are. We are talking child neglect on a high level.
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Post by agentf on Aug 25, 2012 12:30:10 GMT -5
I don't think Wynn has any delusions of getting close to the "BRF". He knows what he is. And the little maneouver has nothing to do with CC directly, but it is as a result of the debasing of Monaco that Monaco would play it the way to drag somebody down - and a hapless young fool which is really low - to make themselves feel better. This is a really vulgar Alpha thing to do, to try to make others trip up instead of aiming a little higher. Don't overestimate that this kind of people have anything more in mind than amusement for their bored, uncreative smug asses. It's a lot more debilitating and débile than your polite self can imagine. It's unfair competition by people who have just compromised themselves so much they disregard anyone and anything else. Harry will just have to get wiser because the free passes on youth are obviously expiring and he'll be a target. Updated: here's the kid I was referring to, not "landon": www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2193338/Whenever-Harrys-trouble-guess-whos-Skipping-him.html
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Post by agentf on Aug 26, 2012 19:07:52 GMT -5
Prince Harry is getting properly dumped by his gorgeous blue-blood new girlfriend after they holidayed on Richard Branson's Neker Island ahead of Harry's stag Vegas trip. I wonder how Chelsea feels about him wearing her necklace too...
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Post by paca on Aug 27, 2012 4:06:11 GMT -5
I think having a new gf and wearing a token of his ex at all times should have given her a clue. Then seeing him pass out on the beach, probably more then once is another. This latest incident is just one that got public. He has been falling in and out of clubs drunk all the time, it just didn't get published. His new image was just that, an image. What I find scary is that they obviously have a guy on their hands who can't control his drink, but they allow him to fly an expensive helicopter. Maybe they are giving him more leave because he is royal then to others, but I doubt it. I've seen plenty of British soldiers bar brawling. Harry is probably not an execption but the rule. Soldiers get killed in Afghanistan and elsewhere just as often through the hands of their fellow soldiers then through taliban etc. And that is not a new issue for the military, independent of nationality. For Harry it is just the follow up of his boardingschool years. the front is kept clean, but behind the scenes you have drugs, alcohol and lose women.
for his new gf the public incident is a great pretext to get away. CHelsea is probably feeling confirmed in her decision that you can not have a relationship with Harryy as long as he doesn't master his issues. It's too much to handle for a young woman and even an older one ould have problems. His own father can't handle him. It is ridiculous to say you can only go on holiday with the parents or a responsible adult. He is 28 soon and not 8. It won't change anything. They might be able to keep things out of the press, but they won't do him any good. The reactions are all about image, not about substance. Hopefully in a personal talk they will get more to the core of things.
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Post by agentf on Aug 27, 2012 12:17:18 GMT -5
I've observed British mating rituals and alcohol seems to be an omnipresent factor. I personally don't think everyone's an alcoholic but it's the British way! He's juvenile. When Rupert Murdoch has to step in as father figure, you know you've royally screwed up. Also does the army really ever use these heirs to the throne for anything permanent? Nah. I'll be happy to not see his pasty butt and sheepish figure. He wasn't even covering some sexy woman behind him. The whole thing is a Fail and a Turnoff. If he were my son, he'd have gotten a kick to the rear and a stint in some backwater where he'd have been forced to walk around buck naked in a swarm of mosquitoes. Or something. The sheer stupidity of this really makes me doubt that generation.
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Post by agentf on Aug 28, 2012 18:34:38 GMT -5
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Post by paca on Aug 29, 2012 5:36:49 GMT -5
LOL the winsors are not known for their intellectual performance. I think that Elizabeth's cousin was one of the smarter ones. He said himself, that they were not a very bookish family. His own father was considered a buffoon. I guess that's why they always thought Charles was odd. NOt that he is an intellectual, but he seems to be using his brain more then once per month. And yes I also noticed that the Brits do drink a lot. And the things Harry did are more or less socially acceptable. Especially the first year in university I have noticed that a lot are spending it in a drunken stupor, rather then in class. During my entire university time, the year I spent at UCL was a party year, more or less. We did party too in Germany, but those were privately organized. At UCL it all happened on campus in the student union. During my time in German university things like that did not exist. You went to university to learn and notto party. At UCL it seemed part of the course. Friends who went to different unis in the UK had similar experiences. Of course we enjoyed it, but then we knew, that it was only limited. Still I think that the British system of sending your kids to boarding schools at a young age, is in part responsible for this kind of behaviour. It has always been that way in Britain and people know it. It's similar to the fraternity behaviour in the US. Since most of those in important positions in society have been part of it, of course no one will through a rock and say it is not ok. They would have to acknowledge first that they are neglecting their children on a very high level, dumping them with nannies and boarding schools. In such a system it is only by chance that a child grows into a happy, well adjusted adult. The part about drugs is actually no surprise at all. It would have been more of a surprise if there wasn't any. The only difference these days is, that people can mak money selling the pics. In the olden days that was not so easy. And those involved were otherwise kept quiet, especially as the circles were more closed. I also noticed in some reporting that some seem to be more shocked that Harry opened his door to just anybody and not people strictly from his own circles. That way you invite people with nothing to lose. Of course Harrys friends wouldn't sell pics. Not only because they'd lose their access, they also know they'd lose their social standing. How do you think Inskips father got to manage all those council flats and get rich by doing so? Honestly how do you get rich by renting flats to people on welfare? Anyone? How much government money that was meant for renovation of council flats went into the Inskip mansion? People look down on Kates parents for how they made their money. But no one ever asks how those people in the royal orbit came into richess. It is only vaguely alluded to, but the press doesn't bother going into the dirty laundry there.... It's all pretty hypocritical IMO
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Post by agentf on Aug 29, 2012 20:18:54 GMT -5
That was a mouthful, Pax, I don't know where to start between subsidized housing, the state of British parenting, the school system and I lost track. You have the well-oiled mind of a multitasking mom. I don't have that. I have only a strong urge to kick him in the behind. I don't know why I have such a violent reaction but I do. I should instead just really dwell on English moral inferiority or something to boomerang-compliment my culture and make the case for getting rid of the monarchy once and for all. But I'm still at a primal stage of my reaction towards this execrable display of vulgarity. I'll be better as days pass. Don't send soup.
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Post by MadameConcorde on Sept 3, 2012 5:26:10 GMT -5
LOL the winsors are not known for their intellectual performance. "My wild night with naked Harry": Vegas party girl tells all about her "drunken fumble" with the crown jewels “It wasn’t romantic, just fun," says British-born Carrie Reichert. "He was so wasted, the alcohol affected him. I was there for 15 to 20 minutes” read more: www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-harry-kiss-and-tell-vegas-1296671depraved... YES.
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Post by mrszinck on Sept 3, 2012 9:21:36 GMT -5
After his nazi-uniform-party I knew already enough... a stupid spoiled -pervert- boy.
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Post by agentf on Sept 3, 2012 11:06:32 GMT -5
I have mixed feelings about his father's strategy. It seems as archaic to me as the advice Prince Philip would have given Charles in his youth, that which reinforces a disconnect and the aura of licentious privilege. www.extratv.com/2012/08/31/prince-harry-advice-charles-dont-issue-public-apology/Though I can appreciate not apologizing publicly doesn't stoke the controversy and moves it along, I think the type of parenting Diana would have encouraged is to not exclude the people. Therefore issuing an apology in his case would on one hand acknowledge his immature undermining of royal efforts all year and show contrition at not holding his end, to the people behind the scene. On the other hand, the more forgiving sort that see him as any regular young bloke have already embraced his silliness so even there, he doesn't lose. But to put a spin that his aristocratic GF is standing by him is the same BS that turns people off, that the PR machine can make you accept any semblance merely by stating it is so. You can't undo what he did, but I see patterns repeating in the kind of male rearing - with the results we'll see down the line of the male heir f*ck*ng up and not drawing sympathy.
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Post by MadameConcorde on Sept 4, 2012 4:06:51 GMT -5
Royalty? huhhhh Cocaine was used in Prince Harry's Las Vegas hotel suite during infamous nude romp, report says'An eyewitness claims that cocaine was being used in the now infamous Las Vegas hotel party where Prince Harry was caught on camera in the nude, according to a report from Radar Online. The scandal erupted last week when photos of a nude Prince Harry were leaked. He appeared to be playing “strip billiards” at the Wynn Hotel and Casino. Later, Radar reported that there is also a video of the prince’s nude escapades that is being shopped around. But the new bombshell drug claim only adds to the embarrassment that the royal family is facing, as a source says people were “drinking and using drugs” in the suite. “Things got pretty crazy in Prince Harry’s suite that night. Everyone was drinking and drugs were also being used by some people,” the eyewitness source told Radar. “Some people were snorting cocaine. Some were already rolling on shrooms when they arrived at the party and some were just high on weed. And that’s exactly why no one there has come forward on the record,” the source added. “They don’t want to be implicated for any illegal activities.” A newspaper reported that the leaked nude photos from the weekend were just the tip of the iceberg and that “something gigantic” had yet to be revealed.An instagram of the Royal pecker? www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/08/29/cocaine-was-used-in-prince-harry-las-vegas-hotel-suite-during-infamous-nude/?intcmp=obinsite#ixzz25Ry6Z0qw
If he was not a "Prince" of that one family and did these things in a 200 dollar a night room, he would be imprisoned for God knows how long if caught.
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Post by grimnir on Sept 4, 2012 5:36:06 GMT -5
If he was not a "Prince" of that one family and did these things in a 200 dollar a night room, he would be imprisoned for God knows how long if caught. Harry is cool and having a bit of fun and doing what any man his age would do and gets support messages etc. But if it would have been a princess, her reputation would be in tatters and she would be called the meanest and ugliest words anyone could find. That kind of bothers me. Imagine if it would have been Beatrice or Eugenie...
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Post by paca on Sept 4, 2012 10:37:05 GMT -5
LOL the winsors are not known for their intellectual performance. "My wild night with naked Harry": Vegas party girl tells all about her "drunken fumble" with the crown jewels “It wasn’t romantic, just fun," says British-born Carrie Reichert. "He was so wasted, the alcohol affected him. I was there for 15 to 20 minutes” read more: www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-harry-kiss-and-tell-vegas-1296671depraved... YES. apparently she wasn't even there. At all. just someone taking advantage and trying to do some famewhoring. Lookk at her. That's someone craving attention. ANd her age tells you that she is fairly desperate. No normal 32 year old would boast about partaking in sth like that. Outing yourself to the world as a slut.....for 5 minutes of fake fame...wonder if she thought that to the end...
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Post by paca on Sept 4, 2012 10:46:38 GMT -5
If he was not a "Prince" of that one family and did these things in a 200 dollar a night room, he would be imprisoned for God knows how long if caught. Harry is cool and having a bit of fun and doing what any man his age would do and gets support messages etc. But if it would have been a princess, her reputation would be in tatters and she would be called the meanest and ugliest words anyone could find. That kind of bothers me. Imagine if it would have been Beatrice or Eugenie... LOL yeah. their mom got booted out of the palace for being pictured someone sucking her toe.... people always say that women are so emancipated etc these days, but truth is we are further away from equality of genders then ever. the only people who benefitted of the womens movement were men. In the olden days women were entitled to half of everything, because people knew that no family man was able to have a career and family without the woman making huge sacrifices. Nowadays a guy can leave his wife as she get's to her 40s and doesn't have to pay her anything. WOrse if they weren't married. If a woman stops to work she better make a binding contract that in case the marriage fails she will be receiving adequate compensation.
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