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Post by paca on Jul 27, 2011 4:33:25 GMT -5
seems to be the same thing he had when Rainier died. I knew he wouldn't quit drinking...
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Post by scout on Jul 27, 2011 7:20:51 GMT -5
I think that this is why Caroline left him - he wouldn't stop drinking and she got tired of living with an alcoholic. Plus, she probably thought it wasn't healthy to have Alex seeing him kill himself every day. I disagree with those who say that she won't divorce him because she wants to keep her HRH (that idea reflects how they would approach the situation). I think that she told him that if he would seriously stop drinking then she would come back. He hasn't so she hasn't. Sad that he choose the bottle over his wife and daughter.
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Post by MyAdia on Jul 27, 2011 7:25:26 GMT -5
I think that this is why Caroline left him - he wouldn't stop drinking and she got tired of living with an alcoholic. Plus, she probably thought it wasn't healthy to have Alex seeing him kill himself every day. I disagree with those who say that she won't divorce him because she wants to keep her HRH (that idea reflects how they would approach the situation). I think that she told him that if he would seriously stop drinking then she would come back. He hasn't so she hasn't. Sad that he choose the bottle over his wife and daughter. I always thought that was one the most idiotic thing that sugar loonies said - nor divorcing because of a non-reigning HER title. Ernst is a Royal highness of NOTHING - it's just worse whereas Caroline has REAL ACTIVE duties in Monaco. I think Caroline wanted to wait until after Albert's wedding to marry so people couldn't say that none of the Grimaldis have successful marriages. Funny, they can still say that. |
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Post by hibou on Jul 27, 2011 9:03:03 GMT -5
Thanks can some one translate. It sound like he relapsed quite a long time ago and it's now caught up with him again. I wouldn't be surprised if this is an untimely end for him. His liver has to be totally damaged at this point. The mistresses are enablers. I'm sure Caroline left him because Alexandra was old enough to understand what was going on and it was better for her not to be around him when he's drunk - especially because he's a nasty one if one looks back at his past episodes. JMO |
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Post by paca on Jul 27, 2011 9:23:46 GMT -5
well considering his condition and that we saw pics of her and EA at a bar etc I can't say she was particularly supportive. She does like her alcohol as well. There are many pics of her with alcohol. Besides there is loads of social alcoholics around in MC. Drinking is one of the major things here because most people don't even notice how much they really drink.I think Steph is the only one I have always seen drinking water. Maybe she partied in her younger years, but I have always seen her with perrier.
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Post by maxima25 on Jul 27, 2011 14:33:50 GMT -5
Thanks can some one translate. It sound like he relapsed quite a long time ago and it's now caught up with him again. I wouldn't be surprised if this is an untimely end for him. His liver has to be totally damaged at this point. The mistresses are enablers. I'm sure Caroline left him because Alexandra was old enough to understand what was going on and it was better for her not to be around him when he's drunk - especially because he's a nasty one if one looks back at his past episodes. JMO He was hospitalized because of a strong abdominal pain. According to Diario de Mallorca he was diagnosed with a serious complication of the liver. The article reminds the pancreatitis he had a few years ago, and that he had declared he had changed his way of life. |
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Post by suite583 on Jul 27, 2011 15:29:04 GMT -5
Formally she is showing her catholic etiquette.
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Post by MyAdia on Aug 2, 2011 11:36:08 GMT -5
As reported in Hello magazine (which of course they red it someone else): Caroline's husband Ernst leaves hospital accompanied by close female friend
02 AUGUST 2011
Looking thin, but otherwise alright, Prince Ernst of Hanover is pictured for the first time since he was rushed to hospital in Ibiza with pancreatitis last week.
The colourful royal was seen boarding a boat with a group of friends, including a pretty young woman believed to his companion. She is a former dancer from Romania, known only as Simona, and is thought to be 23.
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Post by emmeline on Aug 2, 2011 11:43:06 GMT -5
Every Caroline-hater said she was a bitch for not going to visit him when he was in hospital, because she was openly seeing in Italy with her daughters....but from what i see, this woman/girl Simona was there all the time with him, so why Caroline would go visit him?
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Post by refia on Aug 2, 2011 13:27:43 GMT -5
The Caroline haters are so moral when it comes to her. But no one is saying anything that EA is with his girlfriend there? Smells like hypocrisy for me.
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Post by emmeline on Aug 2, 2011 13:31:38 GMT -5
The Caroline haters are so moral when it comes to her. But no one is saying anything that EA is with his girlfriend there? Smells like hypocrisy for me. I know! It bothers me soo much! Also, this people claim Stephanie is "more human" than her. More human? How is that possible? They are amazing... |
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Post by cm7007 on Aug 2, 2011 14:37:08 GMT -5
The only way to deal with an dict - whatever the addiction - is to cut them off completely - cold turkey - and tell them to either get the help they need, or get lost permanently. This is the ONLY way Caroline can have even a little hope of him saving himself - and certainly herself. She has no choice. It's either him, or herself and her daughter. Thank God she chose herself and her child. He needs prayers.
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Post by paca on Sept 9, 2011 3:00:05 GMT -5
It seems that Ernst has been suing his former lawyer. During the trial his ex lawyer has said: the guy was drunk, always. It is mentioned in the article that this is unusual for a lawyer to say in public about a former client, but considering what we know, it seems to be the truth and tells a lot about the marriage Ernst and Caro had. It also says a lot about Rainier and everyone around them and how they rather pretended that everything was fine, then protecting all involved children. It's the one thing that speaks against Caro, that she has remained for a very long time with a man who should not have been allowed around children IMO. Also considering how often we have seen Caro with drinks in public and the rumours about Grace in her aging years, I do wonder whether she is not overdoing her own consumption. In any case it tells us a lot about the workings in the Grimaldi family and why none of the sisters has said anything with regards to CW. www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/0,1518,784938,00.html |
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Post by countess on Sept 9, 2011 9:33:24 GMT -5
the only reason i come to this thread is to see if he's dead yet. the man is a raging alcoholic with severe health problems, he's trying to kill himself and throw in the bimbo hooker looking "companion" and i'd say his days are numbered.
poor alex, growing up with an alcholic is scarring and will haunt her the rest of her life.
i have a good friend who's husband got sober and has had a successful life for 19 years, he's fallen off the wagon and has destroyed his family. he started drinking and having an affair with a woman that would drink with him..... she's filed for divorce and the kids are devastated.
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Post by MyAdia on Sept 9, 2011 11:14:14 GMT -5
It seems that Ernst has been suing his former lawyer. During the trial his ex lawyer has said: the guy was drunk, always. It is mentioned in the article that this is unusual for a lawyer to say in public about a former client, but considering what we know, it seems to be the truth and tells a lot about the marriage Ernst and Caro had. It also says a lot about Rainier and everyone around them and how they rather pretended that everything was fine, then protecting all involved children. It's the one thing that speaks against Caro, that she has remained for a very long time with a man who should not have been allowed around children IMO. Also considering how often we have seen Caro with drinks in public and the rumours about Grace in her aging years, I do wonder whether she is not overdoing her own consumption. In any case it tells us a lot about the workings in the Grimaldi family and why none of the sisters has said anything with regards to CW. www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/0,1518,784938,00.html Thanks Paca. I wonder if Ernst was a drunk before she married him? If so, that says the most about Caroline. I thought that she was waiting until after Albert's trashy marriage to divorce, so that the media won't make a big issue of how all the Grimaldis are divorced or not married. Albert's marriage is so trashy, it won't matter. |
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Post by paca on Sept 9, 2011 11:56:19 GMT -5
I don't think that before anyone paid much attention to him before, so I guess people just didn't notice. I suspect that he was before, but he admitted that he was a social drinker, so I guess that it was difficult to notice. At least in the beginning of the relationship. Also in Monaco a lot of people are alcoholics without anyone noticing. People do drink alcohol with every meal. And it is more then just one glass. And since most meals are in restaurants or social, people don't think much of it. We saw pics of Caro at the beach with Alex, having lunch and she had wine on the table. That is normal for people there. It's part of the lifestyle. They think if you drink with lunch and dinner and then have a few drinks for happy hour with friends, it does not make them alcoholics. To them alcoholics are those who fall all over themselves. I know that Steph drinks mostly water when she goes out. Caroline has drinks. so I guess she noticed that her husband was drinking more then others, but probably didn't think much of it. I never thought that Caro was actually breaking up a marriage. I believe that it was already broken and they staid married for the kids. Same as now. I don't think how anyone benefits, surely his daughter doesn't. He doesn't seem to be spending much time with her anyways. SO might as well make it official instead of living a farce.
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Post by scout on Sept 15, 2011 9:30:00 GMT -5
I figure that they both drank before the marriage. As Paca says, it was/is a part of their lifestyle. But I don't think that Ernst understood the level of scrutiny that he would be under being married to one of the most photographed women in the world. And he could not handle it. It doesn't help that he seems, at times, to have the maturity level of a teenager. I know people say that he is a really fun guy and enjoys life, but you do need to set limits. So he got bad press, and then he beat up the guy in Kenya which really didn't help.
I can understand being embarrassed that your attorney called you a drunk in open court (in US, if your attorney admits something like this, it is considered a confirmed fact, no need to argue about it) but it seems that it would be more productive to improve his image if rather than trying to get his attorney to take the statement back is if Ernst entered rehab and got sober. Plus try to spend some time with your children. Instead, it seems that he is just going to drink until it kills him. Reports give the impression that he has turned over the handling of the Hanover estate to his eldest son. I have wondered if Caroline left him because his drinking just got so bad that she and Alex really weren't safe to be around him.
Also, to defend Caroline, she may not be pursuing a divorce because Ernst has told her he would not agree to it. I don't know anything about divorce in Europe, but in the US, if one party is not agreeable to divorcing and particularly if there are children involved, then it can get quite ugly and very stressful. Since she doesn't need money to live, she may rather just ignore that Ernst exists and lead her life. I thought it was quite telling that when Ernst went to hospital in Ibiza this summer, there were no reports of any of his children or siblings visiting him. It was just that brothel chick and some hanger-ons.
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Post by paca on Oct 12, 2011 17:02:59 GMT -5
Here goes another part of EAs legal record. He got a partial victory. The lawyer wasn't supposed to make the statement in his name, but he is denied money and public excuse. I guess that not too long ago EA would have asked for a duel...and got himself shot thx to being drunk at the time... www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/0,1518,791414,00.html |
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Post by paca on Oct 12, 2011 17:06:12 GMT -5
I figure that they both drank before the marriage. As Paca says, it was/is a part of their lifestyle. But I don't think that Ernst understood the level of scrutiny that he would be under being married to one of the most photographed women in the world. And he could not handle it. It doesn't help that he seems, at times, to have the maturity level of a teenager. I know people say that he is a really fun guy and enjoys life, but you do need to set limits. So he got bad press, and then he beat up the guy in Kenya which really didn't help. I can understand being embarrassed that your attorney called you a drunk in open court (in US, if your attorney admits something like this, it is considered a confirmed fact, no need to argue about it) but it seems that it would be more productive to improve his image if rather than trying to get his attorney to take the statement back is if Ernst entered rehab and got sober. Plus try to spend some time with your children. Instead, it seems that he is just going to drink until it kills him. Reports give the impression that he has turned over the handling of the Hanover estate to his eldest son. I have wondered if Caroline left him because his drinking just got so bad that she and Alex really weren't safe to be around him. Also, to defend Caroline, she may not be pursuing a divorce because Ernst has told her he would not agree to it. I don't know anything about divorce in Europe, but in the US, if one party is not agreeable to divorcing and particularly if there are children involved, then it can get quite ugly and very stressful. Since she doesn't need money to live, she may rather just ignore that Ernst exists and lead her life. I thought it was quite telling that when Ernst went to hospital in Ibiza this summer, there were no reports of any of his children or siblings visiting him. It was just that brothel chick and some hanger-ons. Yes and if you consider that his sons went to the wedding in MC and keep in touch with Caro and their sister, then it does tell you a lot about what his family thinks about him. I do remember that a few years back his brother made a few not so nice statements about him to the press... |
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Post by paca on Aug 10, 2012 11:39:27 GMT -5
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