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Post by bettina on Jul 13, 2011 5:37:14 GMT -5
What is the position of Bruno Philliponaut (sp?) who travels with him often? Anyone know? My guess is that he provides the fat slob with people to sh*g. I don't think Bruno does, he seems like a very tight a.. himself, as a good family man, not sure he agrees to PAs lifestyle but, he probably likes his position to object and anyway, I doubt it is his role to advise. Has anyone had a look at Jean-Luc Mano, the communications advisor's photo in Nice-Matin? An ugly fat man with bad hair and a ( yes! ) brown wide pin stripe suit should not be in a position to advise anyone for their public image! No style for one of the brains behind the "Monaco will be world champion of happiness"... Ha ha ha! Again, shame about the monegasques who apparently have taken to the streets this year in protest, such a small place, you'd think it would not be that difficult to run it but, with all the "prominent" citizens a.. kissing and their prince's ego and absence involved, I guess, nothing can be easy...
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Post by countess on Jul 13, 2011 8:02:21 GMT -5
JMO if they're associated with FatAl, they ARE corrupt, flying monkey flunkies on crack.
it would be easier to govern if FatAl used the brain in his head (little that isn't filled with perverted sex and humping everyone that comes across his path) not pants and grew a spine. he's a weak, pathetic, emotionally retarded little boy, no one with smarts should want to be anywhere near him....digusting little twit!
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Post by grandduchess on Jul 13, 2011 18:56:13 GMT -5
What is the position of Bruno Philliponaut (sp?) who travels with him often? Anyone know? My guess is that he provides the fat slob with people to sh*g. That's right! And, if he quits like Jayet, he can be replaced with Charlie Sheen or Russell Brand.
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Post by mrplowfan on Jul 14, 2011 18:49:26 GMT -5
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Post by cm7007 on Jul 14, 2011 20:32:31 GMT -5
Stahl's an IDIOT! An unbelievable idiot. Just found out she and her pal CW offended - DEEPLY offended - the granddaughter of an original member of The Bilderberg Group. Don't know how much that means - but it can't be good. ;D ;D
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Post by mrplowfan on Jul 14, 2011 20:47:12 GMT -5
TELL ,do tell!
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Post by cm7007 on Jul 14, 2011 22:28:36 GMT -5
Not all that much to tell. CW apparently said or did something to someone without even knowing who or what she was doing. It was the wrong person to offend. Hey, she offended me without having a clue who I was, what I did or who I knew. I could have been a reporter or a relative of Albert's - she had no idea - yet she opened her big mouth and showed me who she really was. Look at the Pedro Almodovar incident. She's an idiot - and Stahl's right behind her. They should have done their due diligence on the people she was going to mingle with BEFORE she mingled so she wouldn't screw up. They didn't and she did! (You need to do a little WORK Charlene!)
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Post by margarita on Jul 15, 2011 3:04:18 GMT -5
Thank you cm7007 for that info! OMG!!! Sarkozy upset and making fun even AT THE WEDDING - now offending granddaughter of an original member of the Bilderberg Group! And how much damage did she by offending people that will never come to our knowledge! FIRE STAHL FIRE STAHL FIRE STAHL !!!! ... her brainblond blowup doll Cashlene will go with her puppet master. Someone with a loooong work exerience in a Ministry of Foreign affairs, who sat at the same table with Kings and Queens, Heads of States, diplomates, met mother Teresa and knows so much about people and politics said BE ALWAYS KIND TO EVERYONE and treat everyone with respect chambermaid or VIP a) because every human being deserves respect and b) there might come a situation when even someone in a "low" position is the only person to help you out in a difficult situation - or makes life much easier - or won't do sabbotage to you ;D c) ... she didn't say this but THAT's the problem with Charlene: If you respect everyone and treat people with love and respect in generell ... you can't offend an important person by chance... But Charlene has no social skills - she is kind to people selectively and to workshy and unprofessional to do homeworks. That's what will be her downfall on the short run - not even middle or long. PLEASE let her fall fast and final - so that Monaco can recover... (And Stahl is an amateur either. Who would employ her now she screwed up Albert's and Monaco's situation, Hariri was forced to step down and shot . No wonder she tries to stay in Monaco. Like her unemployable "offspring" Charlene.)
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Post by countess on Jul 15, 2011 8:10:27 GMT -5
"Hey, she offended me without having a clue who I was, what I did or who I knew" i don't think i remember that story, can you share it again PLEASE? was she as hard and ugly in person? does she look like dyke transvestite like she does in photos? how about her shoulders, does she look like a linebacker up close? is she all freckley, he skin looks awful in photos? did you see her before or after all the surgeries and the chicklet teeth. was she more graceful than she appears, i swear she walks like a truckdriver, all hard clopping and arm pumping. her rudeness certainly tells her lack of class, she's breaking that first rule, watch the enemies you make on the way up, you're probably going to need them on the way down. i'm from Texas (real Texans are polite to EVERYBODY.......especially our enemie > you can buy clothes, you can get plastic surgery on every piece of your body, you can go to princess school, you can be tutored on protocols, but in the end TRASH WILL TELL i can't abide rudeness, it's ugly and tacky and I"M SO HAPPY>>she's rude>>>>> it will win her no friends. that's been a fear, that she really was sweet and people would "take to her" and it would be a success..........CLAPCLAPCLAP that's not going to happen, you can't teach around bad breeding, it'll come out no matter how much "tutor" time. OH I"M SO HAPPY she's a poison personality. the only thing that can help her is a personality transplant and even FatAl doesn't have that much money. this is so much better than i could have ever DREAMED UP, i'm just so happy for their misery. JMO there's no going back from this. they've been ridiculed ALL OVER THE WORLD, the PR FAILS have piled up to the point even the press taking payola is having a hard time with positive stories. the media that was pushing her, have stopped because it's not working, i think they gave her a certain amount of time to sell covers and then when she didn't sell, they've moved on>>>>> i checked there were NO "special issue" magazines, and NO covers i saw in the grocery store line after the wedding, i haven't been to check on if they're covering the honeymoon from hell, i know the on line papers i read, have been covering the seperate honeymoon but didn't cover the streetcorner circus AT ALL. didn't Stahl get fired (or almost) after she wrote her book on FATal, then she censored it and went back to the job, i always thought she must have blackmailed him by saying "i could write worse". he can't fire her, she'll write another book OHO OHOHOH i hope she's taking notes, i'll buy it if it spills on trashlene, and make no mistake, people like that will throw their grandmother under the bus for money and fame. JMO a talking head on an entertainment show had a good point, HEY they wanted our attention for their over the top 100 million wedding, when we open our eyes and see the real story, they can't be mad when we report that too, then made fun of them for wanting "privacy" on their honeymoon when everyone knew they were really just trying to hide out. JMO THIS CAN"T BE FIXED even by a competent PR firm, but throw in the flying monkey flunkies and it's OVER (clapclapclap)
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Post by bettina on Jul 15, 2011 9:36:16 GMT -5
Dear Countess, very good point re politeness. Obviously, she cannot be polite if her life depended upon it. Telling someone ( PPDA ) in an interview "OK" when they wish you happiness and "why doesn't he give us a break" when was asked about having children plans in the future is not the epitomy of politeness, let alone diplomacy...
I can say one thing and not trying to defend her, Charlene with all her thirst for fame and money ( who can blame someone like her, as she said, she saw a future in the prince, not her swimming obviously ), did try to get out of this farce ahead of time ( for which I think we have to give her some credit as unlikable as she seems to be ). She did give in, in the end ( pressure from palace, parents, the weight of the size and cost of the preparations as well ), but, as the tough person she comes across, showed PA that she is not going to put up without a fight by turning her cheek to his grandmotherly kiss and projected constant disapproval of him. So, here is the question, who is worse? I think in the end, they do deserve each other perfectly well. How could PA marry happily ever after when he did not have a proper relationship his entire life? How could he he think he can f...k his way through life and not get caught big time, you know, third time unlucky? And how could she think that PA would change his ways for her if he hadn't done it all these years she was in Monaco. I can only assume there were indiscretions on his part throughout their "courtship" she could have been aware of and if not, we can only blame her for not making more friends who would look after her and for her. Cannot imagine anyone living in one place for 5 years with all the time in the world and not making any friends, even amongst the athletes and there are plenty of those in Monaco, her classmates in the french school, old ladies from the Red Cross, etc. Monaco can be a hard place like anywhere where money and positions run high but, one has to reach out. She was either a fool, overestimated herself, simply did not care or even worse, that is all she could do... Then, new baby/ies came along, that was something even her could not swallow. Amazing! Still in awe! What a soap opera scenario!
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Post by MyAdia on Jul 15, 2011 16:17:43 GMT -5
I can say one thing and not trying to defend her, Charlene with all her thirst for fame and money ( who can blame someone like her, as she said, she saw a future in the prince, not her swimming obviously ), did try to get out of this farce ahead of time ( for which I think we have to give her some credit as unlikable as she seems to be ). She did give in, in the end ( pressure from palace, parents, the weight of the size and cost of the preparations as well ), but, as the tough person she comes across, showed PA that she is not going to put up without a fight by turning her cheek to his grandmotherly kiss and projected constant disapproval of him. I believe Express and its three good sources that Charlene did buy a one-way ticket to South Africa. But, that does not mean that Charlene was willing to give up everything. I believe with every fiber in my being that Charlene was shocked after finding about another child and threw a hissy fit and left - knowing full well that Albert's flunkies will come after her to convince her to continue with their made-for-tv wedding. Charlene's Vogue interview and photos shoot on both her civil and religious wedding shows a woman who is relishing in her title, fame, luxurious lifestyle, flunkies and her two new tiaras and necklace that she bragged about. Charlene has left before after finding out about Albert's other women - and Albert has sent people after her to (even early on) to continue with a farce photo opp. Leaving in a huff is Charlene's only way to save face in this relationship and to feed her narcissism that she holds some type of power. Wait, in time the truth will reveal itself. Charlene is no prisoner of Albert nor Monaco - but a prisoner of her insatiable appetite for fame and money - a pure con artist gold digger.
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Post by hibou on Jul 15, 2011 16:24:35 GMT -5
Not all that much to tell. CW apparently said or did something to someone without even knowing who or what she was doing. It was the wrong person to offend. Hey, she offended me without having a clue who I was, what I did or who I knew. I could have been a reporter or a relative of Albert's - she had no idea - yet she opened her big mouth and showed me who she really was. Look at the Pedro Almodovar incident. She's an idiot - and Stahl's right behind her. They should have done their due diligence on the people she was going to mingle with BEFORE she mingled so she wouldn't screw up. They didn't and she did! (You need to do a little WORK Charlene!) You are asking them to have a brain? Of course any one with even half a pea for a brain in the PR business knows you do a list of expected guests and then you review it. All the idiots had to to was to look at the Devil Wears Prada (come on Charlene you fashionista you) and the scene with the huge black books that the girls had to memorize to help their boss out. I used to go over the guest lists with my boss all the time. No detail was too small, and guests appreciate the fact that you know who they are! I was often positioned at the front door as the first person to greet people because I knew who they all were. Then after the arrivals, I would check in with my boss to see if she had seen them. If not I would ferret out where they were and tell her so she was sure not to miss them. (Hey Charlene it's called working the crowd). I spent most of the black tie events running around in stilettos in a ball gown making sure everything was going well and making sure people were having a good time, and if you think that's bad try jogging up the stairs in the East Hall of the Philadelphia Museum of Art in those killer shoes and not look like an idiot.
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Post by emmeline on Jul 15, 2011 16:28:29 GMT -5
Well, girls, asking a brain to Charlene is asking for the impossible "peras al olmo" like we said here. And it's another proof of how incompetent people is around Albert. And it's only FatAl's fault.
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Post by donna on Jul 15, 2011 17:15:17 GMT -5
Not all that much to tell. CW apparently said or did something to someone without even knowing who or what she was doing. It was the wrong person to offend. Hey, she offended me without having a clue who I was, what I did or who I knew. I could have been a reporter or a relative of Albert's - she had no idea - yet she opened her big mouth and showed me who she really was. Look at the Pedro Almodovar incident. She's an idiot - and Stahl's right behind her. They should have done their due diligence on the people she was going to mingle with BEFORE she mingled so she wouldn't screw up. They didn't and she did! (You need to do a little WORK Charlene!) You are asking them to have a brain? Of course any one with even half a pea for a brain in the PR business knows you do a list of expected guests and then you review it. All the idiots had to to was to look at the Devil Wears Prada (come on Charlene you fashionista you) and the scene with the huge black books that the girls had to memorize to help their boss out. I used to go over the guest lists with my boss all the time. No detail was too small, and guests appreciate the fact that you know who they are! I was often positioned at the front door as the first person to greet people because I knew who they all were. Then after the arrivals, I would check in with my boss to see if she had seen them. If not I would ferret out where they were and tell her so she was sure not to miss them. (Hey Charlene it's called working the crowd). I spent most of the black tie events running around in stilettos in a ball gown making sure everything was going well and making sure people were having a good time, and if you think that's bad try jogging up the stairs in the East Hall of the Philadelphia Museum of Art in those killer shoes and not look like an idiot. Good job Hibou. Thank you for sharing. I am proud of you and a bit envious. I'd love that job, you know who everone is yet nobody knows you, but you are the most important person in there, make everything run smoothly.
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Post by hibou on Jul 15, 2011 18:38:03 GMT -5
You are asking them to have a brain? Of course any one with even half a pea for a brain in the PR business knows you do a list of expected guests and then you review it. All the idiots had to to was to look at the Devil Wears Prada (come on Charlene you fashionista you) and the scene with the huge black books that the girls had to memorize to help their boss out. I used to go over the guest lists with my boss all the time. No detail was too small, and guests appreciate the fact that you know who they are! I was often positioned at the front door as the first person to greet people because I knew who they all were. Then after the arrivals, I would check in with my boss to see if she had seen them. If not I would ferret out where they were and tell her so she was sure not to miss them. (Hey Charlene it's called working the crowd). I spent most of the black tie events running around in stilettos in a ball gown making sure everything was going well and making sure people were having a good time, and if you think that's bad try jogging up the stairs in the East Hall of the Philadelphia Museum of Art in those killer shoes and not look like an idiot. Good job Hibou. Thank you for sharing. I am proud of you and a bit envious. I'd love that job, you know who everone is yet nobody knows you, but you are the most important person in there, make everything run smoothly. Thanks. Yes being anonymous has it's perks! I had a lot of fun and it hard work, but it was long hours. When I left to stay home with my daughter some one asked me if I would write about book about all the stuff I knew. I declined and told them I believed that "Bonfire of the Vanities" had been done, but then who knew Albert would be part II!
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Post by MyAdia on Aug 17, 2011 9:09:16 GMT -5
Here is an article describing all the hefty fines that Eringer has been order to pay because of information posted on his blog.
Pariscourt rules against blogger attacking Monaco
August 17th, 2011
For the past few years, Robert Eringer has been running an anti-Monaco blog. The man was introduced to Prince Albert in the 1980s.
In a recent interview, the Prince said: "I knew Mr. Eringer in the late 80s. His father, who lived in an apartment in the Condamine, was a painter who worked for Disney. Some friends introduced me to him. He described himself as a journalist and writer. In the 90s, he released a book on Monaco, casting the people he met there in a bitter light”.
According to sources from the Principality, close to the affair, Eringer's blog "is a libelous and defamatory work." Sources familiar with the ordeal claim that Eringer and his American lawyer, Brigham Ricks, tried to blackmail the Principality, asking for $1 million to stop blogging against the Prince and the Principality. Prince Albert himself mentioned the $1 million in an interview with Ms. Milena Radoman, which was published on August 2, 2011.
Meanwhile, Robert Eringer has been found guilty by Paris courts of publishing "false information" on Monaco and local key personalities. Following the court's ruling, Mr. Eringer removed the false and libelous stories from his blog but has so far refused to make any payment to the Prince and others for damages.
In a June 14 2011 ruling, Robert Eringer was ordered to pay 20,000 Euros in damages plus 7,000 Euros in legal fees to Prince Albert for the publication of false and libelous materials. An additional 5,000 Euros per day are applied for each week in which the offending material remains on the blog.
In another case, Robert Eringer was ordered to pay 10,000 Euros in damages per infraction, of which there were 6, to Claude Palmero plus 3,000 Euros in legal fees.
Robert Eringer was also ordered to pay 15,000 Euros in damages plus interests to lawyer Thierry Lacoste. He has been ordered to remove the offending materials from his blog or face penalties of 5,000 Euros per week. He was ordered to pay 7,000 Euros in legal fees to Thierry Lacoste.
Robert Eringer was ordered to pay 10,000 Euros in damages per infraction, of which there were 2, to Andre Muhlberger plus 3,000 Euros in legal fees.
In 3 additional judgments, Mr. Eringer was ordered to further pay similar damages for additional infractions to Claudio Marzocco, Thierry Lacoste and Prince Albert, totaling an additional 30,000 Euros in damages plus 9,000 Euros in legal fees.
All of the above judgments are from the Tribunal de Grande Instance de Paris. Further judgments for criminal infractions will be rendered in September, October and December 2011. The delay is provide the defendant, Robert Eringer, time to present himself in Paris for his defense. So far, he has refused to accept the summons. Registered letters sent to his address by the process server are returned marked "refused".
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Post by MyAdia on Aug 17, 2011 9:17:15 GMT -5
I have a huge problem with this judgment because someone wealthy like Albert with unlimited resources have the ability to shut up any critics without a FAIR due process. IF you are poor - forget trying to defend yourself! Albert has been fighting Eringer's suit in a U.S. Court of law because of his so-called diplomatic immunity, yet he goes to a French Court which is very lenient laws of defamation and sues Eringer there. Thank God I live in the United States of America because the U.S. has passed a law that does not allow someone like Albert to enforce such damages against its citizens from French Courts - for good reasons. In France the courts are extremely plaintiff-friendly, defendants must prove the truth of their allegations in most cases. Also, they have very strict privacy laws for public people like Albert. You can state the truth, but Albert can claim that the truth invaded his privacy - like in the case against Paris Match with Nicole's story.
As I stated before, I am not a fan of Eringer because he distorts too much of the information that he presents. A perfect example is that Eringer reported the information about this judgment against hi, but he did NOT state all the amount and to whom he was ordered to pay! NEVER!
This is typical behavior of Eringer who takes many things out of context and only presents partial information to fit his version of the story which almost always involves showing Albert in the worst possible light. I do believe the events that he states that he has witnessed while working for Albert. He has presented evidence to confirm a lot of this. But, I am very careful of any conclusion that he makes because of this tendency of distortion. I am also very leery of someone like Eringer who can dish out any damaging information about anyone whom he pleases, but who has a very thin skin when receiving the slight criticism. I'll never forget his threat to sue the Monaco FreeForum because a few women - who he called catty- didn't bow down and take as the holy grail everything he stated. That was the epitome of chutzpah!
That said, I still support Eringer's right to voice his opinion on his blog and Albert's right to defend himself in the courts if he feels that he is being defamed. But, Albert abuses this right when he avoids the American courts and sue in France instead.
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Post by axelle on Aug 17, 2011 9:59:57 GMT -5
I agree I don't think it is fair to take this to court in France.
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Post by hibou on Aug 17, 2011 11:53:42 GMT -5
I have a huge problem with this judgment because someone wealthy like Albert with unlimited resources have the ability to shut up any critics without a FAIR due process. IF you are poor - forget trying to defend yourself! Albert has been fighting Eringer's suit in a U.S. Court of law because of his so-called diplomatic immunity, yet he goes to a French Court which is very lenient laws of defamation and sues Eringer there. Thank God I live in the United States of America because the U.S. has passed a law that does not allow someone like Albert to enforce such damages against its citizens from French Courts - for good reasons. In France the courts are extremely plaintiff-friendly, defendants must prove the truth of their allegations in most cases. Also, they have very strict privacy laws for public people like Albert. You can state the truth, but Albert can claim that the truth invaded his privacy - like in the case against Paris Match with Nicole's story. As I stated before, I am not a fan of Eringer because he distorts too much of the information that he presents. A perfect example is that Eringer reported the information about this judgment against hi, but he did NOT state all the amount and to whom he was ordered to pay! NEVER! This is typical behavior of Eringer who takes many things out of context and only presents partial information to fit his version of the story which almost always involves showing Albert in the worst possible light. I do believe the events that he states that he has witnessed while working for Albert. He has presented evidence to confirm a lot of this. But, I am very careful of any conclusion that he makes because of this tendency of distortion. I am also very leery of someone like Eringer who can dish out any damaging information about anyone whom he pleases, but who has a very thin skin when receiving the slight criticism. I'll never forget his threat to sue the Monaco FreeForum because a few women - who he called catty- didn't bow down and take as the holy grail everything he stated. That was the epitome of chutzpah! That said, I still support Eringer's right to voice his opinion on his blog and Albert's right to defend himself in the courts if he feels that he is being defamed. But, Albert abuses this right when he avoids the American courts and sue in France instead. I agree MyAdia. I read over there not just because of what he posts but what others post as well. It's the old Voltaire quote, "I may disagree with everything you have to say but will defend until your death your right to say it". People should be allowed their opinions, and Albert is trying to silence Eringer. He should sue him on US soil if he feels the information is untrue and do it honorably. Albert looks like a coward to me and just trying to squash Eringer. He should have silenced him by paying the damn invoice. Penny wise pound foolish not to mention there was no confidentiality agreement. JMO.
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Post by paca on Aug 17, 2011 12:01:53 GMT -5
honorably? Albert doesn't know the meaning of the word honor...or self respect for that matter
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