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Post by paca on May 12, 2011 14:17:53 GMT -5
BTw I know Lisa Buechi and her brother. She grew up here. And she is half Austrian, half Swiss. Her antiquity shop is opposite the souvenir shop at the palace place. I won't comment this online. I have known her quite some time before I actually moved here. We bump into each other on occasion, but I have to laugh at this.
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Post by MyAdia on May 12, 2011 14:33:31 GMT -5
BTw I know Lisa Buechi and her brother. She grew up here. And she is half Austrian, half Swiss. Her antiquity shop is opposite the souvenir shop at the palace place. I won't comment this online. I have known her quite some time before I actually moved here. We bump into each other on occasion, but I have to laugh at this. Oh my, do you mean that it is possible that some business and shop owners feel obligated to sing either Albert, Charlene or this wedding's praises to stay in good graces with the power that be? Gee, I am not surprised. There was an article that I had posted where an Italian reporter discussed the same thing - Italians didn't feel comfortable voicing their true pinions. It is kind of scary when you think about it - the environment that creates this type of sycophancy. Imagine what it is like for Charlene not knowing who really likes her or who is just tolerating her for their survival. I think i'll have to move before I suck up to such trash, but of course that is easier said than done for those whom Monaco is their permanent home.
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Post by paca on May 12, 2011 14:54:51 GMT -5
remember the articles In Monaco matin with people always insisting their name not to b mentioned because they were working in Monaco and feared for their job? they have their reasons for it. I am not saying that she might not be of the opinion, but she does know the system. And she also is a bit naive when it comes to people.
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Post by countess on May 12, 2011 15:07:19 GMT -5
Imagine what it is like for Charlene not knowing who really likes her or who is just tolerating her for their survivali don't think she cares who likes her and will "take care" of them after the wedding one way or the other
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Post by emmeline on May 12, 2011 18:09:41 GMT -5
Probably Charlene prefers to hear lies, that everybody loves her, and doesn't care who likes her by real or doesn't like her. As countess says, after the wedding, once she is HSH Princess Charlene of Monaco (Which still sounds like some sort prom queen title) she will do whatever she wants, no matter what her hubby thinks of her, of what her flunkies think of her.
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Post by paca on May 12, 2011 18:13:58 GMT -5
She knows that people don't like her. She takes that as a challenge and uses it to get what she wants. She considers herself already there which is why she more and more shows who she really is and treats people as what has been perceived as cruel and impolite. Just wait how much worse she will get after the wedding if she already is already called cruel now.
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Post by cm7007 on May 12, 2011 20:53:04 GMT -5
I wonder if shop owners will loose their licence if they don't display the fony picture of Fatal and Tranlene in the window. Well guys - THAT'S the Charlene I know and met - described perfectly. Could not have said it better! The whole thing is absolutely unbelievable to me. How could anyone with a brain - even one cell - allow himself to get involved this deeply with the likes of someone like this woman?! Who would be behind something so obviously stupid. If I were his sister, Caroline, I'd have him put in an institution to have his head examined. Seriously! And I agree - an emergency involving his health and a not to slow withdrawal from Charlene would be the perfect answer. What a nightmare!
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Post by grandduchess on May 12, 2011 21:21:30 GMT -5
It seems appropriate to quote Louis Armstrong:
"There are people that, if they don't know, you can't tell them."
That goes for Albert and any one who has drank the Kool-Aid.
Eventually, the truth will bring every one down by its own weight, too late, I'm afraid.
And this one goes for CW and all Sycophants:
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we practice to deceive"
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Post by cm7007 on May 13, 2011 3:20:40 GMT -5
She knows the dangers that lie in wait, she has accepted. Prince Albert also knows that and he took his time. Nobody criticizes him more. But if her marriage is a private and personal matter, and the Monegasque residents are concerned by the image of the marriage. It's all of us who have, through our attitude and our love, protect the authenticity of the marriage of overexposure and unhealthy. A unique opportunity to impose the true image of MonacoThis is the condition of a successful event that will enable the best communication campaign to impose the true image of Monaco. A real country working in a quality of life certainly exceptional, but a country with a history, traditions and characteristics, and that is not a sanctuary for a few wealthy or a schedule of opaque financial institutions. Nothing is perfect and of course Monaco is certainly not immune to all the tricks of international greed. But our country has the means to cope with sincerity and commitment and determination alongside the transparent democracies. Towards a new attraction?None better than the couple of Monaco can not impose that truth remains largely unknown and the marriage must be the culmination of efforts of the Principality. Monaco and residents know well who hope a new dynamic and moral attractiveness. Even more tourists, more settlements, of expertise in all areas, more respect and notoriety for the role by a country like no other. The global reach of Monaco, with the Sovereign Prince, without comparison with its international weight reduces the population, territory or production. This action will bring the Prince of Monaco on the occasion of marriage, a sympathy that will turn into a new attraction in all areas. A new dream for the world and a new start for Monaco ... these are realistic vows in the new year BLA, BLA, BLA! Who wrote this drivel - Charlene's brother? What a snow job! It even says something about it no longer being 1956 but some 50 years on - Charlene said almost the same thing regarding Grace's wedding dress. The whole article sounds like a manifesto for The New World Order group of dopes! God help us all if people don't wake up ASAP! AdminNote: Fixed quote
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Post by cm7007 on May 13, 2011 3:56:30 GMT -5
Even more tourists, more settlements, of expertise in all areas, more respect and notoriety for the role by a country like no other. The global reach of Monaco [/b], with the Sovereign Prince, without comparison with its international weight reduces the population, territory or production. This action will bring the Prince of Monaco on the occasion of marriage, a sympathy that will turn into a new attraction in all areas. A new dream for the world and a new start for Monaco ... these are realistic vows in the new year [/quote] If this is the kind of garbage they are filling Albert's head with, AND he's dumb enough to believe it, I think the only thing that MIGHT save him, and Monaco, is if we all, everyday, several times a day, say a prayer to St Jude - Patron Saint of Impossible Tasks - and BEG him to intercede and enlighten and inspire Albert to have the intelligence and strength of character to RUN LIKE A THIEF IN THE NIGHT from this marriage! I'M SERIOUS. Weather you believe in it or not - I've experienced his miracles and it's worth a shot! If it works we'll all chip in and build a shrine to him somewhere in Monaco! AdminNote: Fixed quote
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Post by margarita on May 13, 2011 5:48:22 GMT -5
"If this is the kind of garbage they are filling Albert's head with, AND he's dumb enough to believe it, I think the only thing that MIGHT save him, and Monaco, is if we all, everyday, several times a day, say a prayer to St Jude - Patron Saint of Impossible Tasks - and BEG him to intercede and enlighten and inspire Albert to have the intelligence and strength of character to RUN LIKE A THIEF IN THE NIGHT from this marriage! I'M SERIOUS. Weather you believe in it or not - I've experienced his miracles and it's worth a shot! If it works we'll all chip in and build a shrine to him somewhere in Monaco!" cm7007 Wonderful idea!!! I will definitly pray to St. Jude. Let's pray all together and we will ship in!!! Here is a text of a prayer whe can somehow modify for Monaco and Albert. English is not my native language ... maybe anyone can help and post it? If we all use the same words the prayer might be more powerful www.luckymojo.com/saintjude.htmlO most holy apostle, St. Jude, faithful servant and friend of Jesus -- People honor and invoke you universally, as the patron of hopeless cases, of things almost despaired of. Pray for me, for I am so helpless and alone. Please help to bring me visible and speedy assistance. Come to my assistance in this great need that I may receive the consolation and help of heaven in all my necessities, tribulations, and sufferings, particularly (state your request) and that I may praise God with you always. I promise, O blessed St. Jude, to be ever mindful of this great favor, to always honor you as my special and powerful patron, and to gratefully encourage devotion to you by publishing this request. Amen. Thanks
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Post by donna on May 13, 2011 5:50:34 GMT -5
I'm reposting this Jnauary 2011 La Principaute article that I had posted on RoyalDish. The article itself is creepy scary, I mean really creepy scary just how much certain people in Monaco believe that this wedding and Charlene's appeal will have a HUGE financial impact on Monaco and boost its image WORLDWIDE. I am speechless, really, I cannot even begin to summarize the article. They really believe that their Prince Albert and Charlene Wittstock are the golden goose couple. It's amazing how much they use the pharse "all the world" will be watching, how much Charlene and appreciated and loved by Monaco, and they really try to pump up Charlene's accomplishment and how beautiful and get this - how INTELLIGENT she is. They want us to know how happy and in love their prince, his sisters, and their children are with Charlene. Why don't they just start bowing down to heir future Princess right now since they already think that she is God's savior for Monaco. I wonder how much their views have changed since January 2011. If all of this was to materialize because of Charlene and this wedding, Monaco would have seen some of the effects by now. Guy, the director of the fitness center states how close he has always been to the princely family (Princess Grace helped him) - and Prince Albert himself inaugurated his fitness center. He is happy to be close to the family, Monaco is lucky to be able to show the troubled world an image of happiness and beauty with their princely couple - Albert and Charlene will be wonderful ambassadors for Monaco.
Patrick, a cafe owner hopes that this wedding will create the same extraordinary aura as the 1956 wedding (Grace and Rainier's). He's convinced that the Prince's wedding will be one of strong emotions.
Christian, the honorary president of the bouliste club says they have waited for this wedding and this is true happiness for the Monegasques. He finds Charlene very appealing and reserved. He is especially excited that he remembers his parents wedding. these are all middle aged men, who have the same mentality. Women, for them, are objects who are to look nice and whatever they say is just foam. Women, in their view, bring nothing to the table. I wouldn't be surprised if they thought higher of their dogs than their wifes.
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Post by donna on May 13, 2011 5:53:04 GMT -5
"If this is the kind of garbage they are filling Albert's head with, AND he's dumb enough to believe it, I think the only thing that MIGHT save him, and Monaco, is if we all, everyday, several times a day, say a prayer to St Jude - Patron Saint of Impossible Tasks - and BEG him to intercede and enlighten and inspire Albert to have the intelligence and strength of character to RUN LIKE A THIEF IN THE NIGHT from this marriage! I'M SERIOUS. Weather you believe in it or not - I've experienced his miracles and it's worth a shot! If it works we'll all chip in and build a shrine to him somewhere in Monaco!" cm7007 Wonderful idea!!! I will definitly pray to St. Jude. Let's pray all together and we will ship in!!! Here is a text of a prayer whe can somehow modify for Monaco and Albert. English is not my native language ... maybe anyone can help and post it? If we all use the same words the prayer might be more powerful www.luckymojo.com/saintjude.htmlO most holy apostle, St. Jude, faithful servant and friend of Jesus -- People honor and invoke you universally, as the patron of hopeless cases, of things almost despaired of. Pray for me, for I am so helpless and alone. Please help to bring me visible and speedy assistance. Come to my assistance in this great need that I may receive the consolation and help of heaven in all my necessities, tribulations, and sufferings, particularly (state your request) and that I may praise God with you always. I promise, O blessed St. Jude, to be ever mindful of this great favor, to always honor you as my special and powerful patron, and to gratefully encourage devotion to you by publishing this request. Amen. Thanks so what happened to John Paul's second miracle? And has Saint Devoté forsaken Monaco?
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Post by MyAdia on May 13, 2011 7:21:57 GMT -5
these are all middle aged men, who have the same mentality. Women, for them, are objects who are to look nice and whatever they say is just foam. Women, in their view, bring nothing to the table. I wouldn't be surprised if they thought higher of their dogs than their wifes. Donna, this is a very good point. In addition, I think most of the advice given to Albert about Charlene's supposedly positive effect on Monaco have been given by these type of men (excluding Stahl). They really thought that if they surgically altered and dressed up Albert's dumb-as-a-rock plastic bimbo in expensive clothes, educated cultured wealthy people would flock to Monaco to live and/or spend their time and money. Very antiquated. Supermodel wealthy cultured Carla didn't do it for Sarkozy I don't know why they thought Trashlene would do it for Albert.
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Post by paca on May 13, 2011 8:08:41 GMT -5
Myadia, I have stated it on the old forums many times: monacos mentality towards women is still stuck somewhere in the fifties. that's why there are still plenty of people around who think it is ok that coaty has not worked a single day in her life. heck, Grace was more modern then the dumpsterbride. as for Carla not doing it for Sarko: well the man himself is so detestable that mother theresa couldn't have made him more likable to the French, and everyone knows that Carla is a bitch who can't sing if her life depended on it.
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Post by MyAdia on May 13, 2011 8:31:45 GMT -5
True, Carla is a bitch (I like her songs!), but clearly Sarkozy thought that Carla's personality didn't matter - only her looks - the same as Albert with Charlene. Albert really believe that if Charlene looks better his people will like her more. Paca, you mentioned the gossip about how ill-mannered and nasty Charlene treats people, well obviously Albert knows this - and he doesn't care! Albert's solution to Charlene's nasty kiss-my-flatt-ass-you-bitches Tatler interview was to have his attorney give an interview with Monaco Hebdo to explain away Charlene's " South African mentality and humor" that the Monaco people just don't understand. Oh, please note for the record that Charlene was seeing Albert in 2004 - another proof that Charlene is lying in her recent interviews about not seeing Albert until December 2005 after their first date in June 2001. Excerpt from the 25 November 2010 issue of Monaco Hebdo: Thierry Lacoste Charlene met for the first time in 2004 in the Paris home of Prince Albert. Just after the Turin Games. His first impression was the same: "Charlene is typically a high-level sportsman with a healthy mentality. Her report to the people is honest and direct, she speaks bluntly. She is an honest and sincere girl who says clearly what she thinks and believes what she says. While having a lot of sweetness. She is a beautiful soul, very tender and sweet. "
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Post by donna on May 13, 2011 8:53:40 GMT -5
If TL first met her in Fatal's Paris apartment, after the turin games, it would have been in February 2006, not 2004. The Monaco Hebdo obviously doesn't remember when the games were.
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Post by MyAdia on May 13, 2011 9:02:31 GMT -5
More delusional dribble for Monegasques about their Princess Charlene. Patrice Zehr, the author of this article and the editor of the magazine La Principaute, needs his head examined if he actually thought anyone - besides Charlene (she really thought so) was concerned that Charlene was going to upstaged Kate at Kate's wedding! Partrice seems a little disappointed about Monaco's savior "New Grace" appearance at the wedding. Perhaps he thought as I did that she was dressed respectively and appropriate (for a chance), but looked dull and boring. An excerpt of the article is below and I'll post a screen shot of the entire French in the next post. Fair play to Monaco ... La Principaute - May 2011 by Patrice Zehr
MARRIAGE • Those who expected a sort of rivalry between the future princess of Monaco, who became the wife of Prince William were disappointed. Is unfamiliar with the Sovereign Prince and especially his future wife that he could imagine that Charlene would try to steal the spotlight from Kate. The dress of the sovereign Prince’s bride was in the same tone as that of her "promised" stylish and discreet gray combining class and restraint (see photo). Prince Albert II will no doubt noticed how the press that Kate's dress was reminiscent of that of his mom Grace Kelly, the day she became Princess Grimaldi. The couple Monegasque certainly enjoyed the ceremony and especially the popular fervor of a people vis-à-vis the English royal family. In Monaco city-state, the people have more proximity with the dynasty and is part of the family ....
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Post by MyAdia on May 13, 2011 9:06:52 GMT -5
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Post by MyAdia on May 13, 2011 9:13:26 GMT -5
If TL first met her in Fatal's Paris apartment, after the turin games, it would have been in February 2006, not 2004. The Monaco Hebdo obviously doesn't remember when the games were. Donna, their writing style is poor, but they are saying that Lacoste met Charlene in Paris in 2004 AND AGAIN just after the Turin games, which was in 2006 - and his impression of Charlene was the same when he first met her in 2004. Well, that is my interpretation. The first sentence is very clear that Lacoste met Charlene for the very first time in 2004. Thierry Lacoste Charlene met for the first time in 2004 in the Paris home of Prince Albert. Just after the Turin Games. His first impression was the same:
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