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Post by refia on May 16, 2011 7:29:09 GMT -5
I noticed in many forums an enthusiasm about this wedding. Especially from those who dislike Kate. Hm?
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Post by emmeline on May 16, 2011 7:34:44 GMT -5
^Oh yeah, i know some people that are really enthusiastic about this "wedding". I've read the program once again, and this doesn't sound like a wedding, it's sounds like a big freaking show. Kate and William had a nice, correct, wedding. These two idiots will have fireworks every ten minutes, great dinners here and there, will salute and wave the people of Monaco every ten minutes, will show their "happy" faces in balcony (and God knows what will happen that it will screw up this particular moment)...Charlene will give her bouquet to St Devote (and she will be thinking "yeah, i don't want anybody to get married after me, so i will give to her, who cares? it's all for the show") balls here and there, the monegasques being able to "share" the happiness of the couple....and, of course, big television screen capturing every moment, from the civil marriage (they need so much attention that they have to televised the civil ceremony) and then the same for all the other crap that comes.
It will be a great show, no doubt, but a marriage? nope.
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Post by MyAdia on May 16, 2011 8:00:33 GMT -5
I noticed in many forums an enthusiasm about this wedding. Especially from those who dislike Kate. Hm? this is a typical message board phenomenon that I believe started in 2004 with Letizia and Mary's wedding. If you hate one then all of a sudden the other bride/princess becomes the most wonderful creature on the earth - even though (and in most cases) you know nothing about the bride that you deemed the most wonderful creature. On a particular anti-Kate board, many of the posters have deemed Charlene the antithesis of Kate (in their eyes) - Charlene is hard-working, honest, educated, discrete and is in love with the man that she is marry and of course her man loves her. Some are even saying that Albert and Charlene's wedding is perfectly planned with no hitches and the couple is madly in love - unlike Will and Kate. Even on RoyalDish we encountered some anti-Mary fans tell us just how much better Charlene is than Mary. I don't know why people do this, but they do. So, in anti-Mary and anti-Kate world, Charlene is the super star. Thats why it's crazy for people to gauge royals popularity by royal watchers on message boards. Honestly, the typical message board royal watcher is NOTHING like the general population.
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Post by refia on May 16, 2011 10:09:38 GMT -5
Imagine how they would have made a very big deal if Marys or Kates mother would have behaved like Charlenes mother in the "LeuteHeute" video. THIS would be a proof how unsuitable M & K are for the role. Plus that Lynette uses her maiden name again. I don´t want to say that I don´t have any criticism against Kate and Mary. But I wouldn´t exaggerate any position, just to have more arguments against this or that princess.
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Post by scout on May 16, 2011 12:22:49 GMT -5
I've noted what you mention, MyaDia. It seems if you are anti-Mary then you don't want any other princess to be viewed negatively because it might knock her off the 'worst crown princess every pedestal' and you have too much invested in that premise. Mary or Kate or whoever needs to be only crown princess unsuitable for the position. Can't have any competition. To me, they can all be unsuitable or all fantastic for their positions or probably they will be all over the board since we are talking about individuals.
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Post by rearden on May 16, 2011 15:45:56 GMT -5
I don't like that phenomenon either but it's very common.
Usually royal watchers dedicate themselves only to a princess (men are not so interesting ^^) and they don't know much about the others so in comparision the others always look better. Also as it happened with Mary and Leti and now with Kate and Charlene is that it is very easy to compare because they marry the same year.
I don't think much about it, I've seen that happen in so many royal forums that I just ignore it.
And I also do not have a favourite so not a problem with me.
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Post by emmeline on May 16, 2011 15:58:42 GMT -5
Mary and Leti married with weeks of difference, right? Anti-Mary people love Leti, and Anti-Leti people love Mary...guess it happens the same with Kate and Charlene. I wonder if they will have kids with the same time difference Mary and Letizia had their first child?
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Post by rearden on May 16, 2011 16:01:05 GMT -5
One week between their weddings, Emme. Their second child was also born in a very similar date. When Mary announced her third pregnancy the sugars were saying that Leti was also pregnant, there were a lot of rumours even in the press but it didn't happen.
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Post by emmeline on May 16, 2011 16:07:21 GMT -5
^Thanks!
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Post by sandsla on May 16, 2011 20:36:35 GMT -5
The short of it is, that these forums don't mind being used as a PR tool if it serves the purpose of making them money. That is the bottom line for them and nothing else is important other than that, but they at least have some motivation for their actions where they at least benefit, as distasteful as that might sound. I've noticed in the past when the conversation dries up they not only become more lenient about the topic of Charlene, but they even occasionally introduce the very subjects they once tried to avoid, because if you don't have any traffic at all, that doesn't attract advertising dollars either? If advertisers e.g., Armani who once paid to advertise on these forums, where every time the word Armani appears on a Charlene thread, one can immediately click over to the Armani website.....obviously a pro stance for Charlene would invite those kind of advertisers where she is going to be flattered and supported. Although Armani should have realized that Charlene herself was never going to be good for business, outside of whatever Albert has done for him like employing him to supply the Monaco Olympic athlete uniforms for throwing his girlfriend a bone . You would have thought Armani would have known that Charlene was never going to be a fashion icon that would attract business for him. By the way did I really read Armani is not designing her dress now? Really? Anyway Charlene's fans on these forums are not likely to ever shop Armani no matter how much they might admire Charlene, plus I think most of her fans are probably comprised mostly of her family, and I imagine they would expect to be supplied for free anyway? Really, I don't understand who Armani ever thought he was going to attract on these forums or by embracing someone like Charlene? Charlene has never minded being used as a tool or commodity for anyone.... if only she really were? So, I don't really see why the palace ( as hard as they work there...on the forums), actually think these forums translate in anyway into serious dollars for them or support for Monaco or Albert? Basically the old adage (regrading Charlene's fans) is true "With friends like that who needs enemies" Why the palace would want to draw attention to the kind of people who support or confess to be fans of Charlene's on these forums....where their posts seem to reveal themselves as being unapologetic shallow gold-digging opportunists--they only support and suggest the same is true of Charlene as well, when most people would have already come to that conclusion about her on their own without reading her fans posts who would only seem to confirm it. Charlene's fan on these forums in reality only bring attention to what the palace has been trying to hide about Charlene for all these years, so I just don't understand why they want to stir up and add to the conversation with them, especially when her fans on the forums all make it pretty clear that they're not exactly the kind of people who actually spend time or money in Monaco or anywhere else where one might mix with the movers and shakers of the world, because if they did, they wouldn't be so impressed with Charlene for doing absolutely nothing except for manipulating herself into a world that they don't belong to themselves. So, good luck to the palace.....what kind of people does the palace think would want to identify themselves or want to have anything in common with the element that supports Charlene on some of these forums? Who do they imagine would want to bring down their own credibility by embracing someone like Charlene--her fans on these forums are only going to serve the purpose of turning off anyone helpful to Monaco or that might have been attracted to Monaco for it's past allure which Charlene presence there now has only helped to destroy. It seems so self defeating for them to embrace the kind of fans that Charlene has? Seriously it seems like the Palace are always the only people that are never in on their own joke--I keep picturing that Monty Python episode where the idiots all run around an obstacle course doing stupid things and the final task is to shoot themselves in the head. ;D
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Post by emmeline on May 16, 2011 20:58:52 GMT -5
Sandsla...great great post!
I admire how you put it all so beautifully said! I wish i had all that vocabulary. I love this forum!!
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Post by sandsla on Jun 17, 2011 11:19:15 GMT -5
I want to share with you what was waiting for me from the royal forums: "You have been banned for the following reason: Defamatory and verging-on-the-hysterical campaign against Charlene Wittstock Date the ban will be lifted: Never" I wrote posts the last few days where I was "personally" attacked from posters. I even had someone who was nice enough to write me and to suggest that I ask them what was wrong with my posts they kept deleting because she could not not see that i was disrespectful to anyone! These people are too much to believed. Those posters do more harm to Charlene than good because they point out exactly the only kind of people that support her. It is too bad I did not copy other insane messages the moderators have sent me. One called me delusional when I pointed out that one of their own moderater's posted that all the Grimaldi's were connected to the Mob and that Caroline's husband was killed by the mob, because he was part of the mob. She stated this as fact. I sent that pm to them as a favor to them to show the kind of posts that could actually get them in trouble! Instead of the posts they were deleting by people who lived in Monaco and at the event in question and reporting her opinion of what she observed with her own eyes. I later saw the posts I was talking about edited by zonk spelling out exactly what I had said and why the post was edited, oh the part left in said that "all" the people in Monaco were mercenaries stayed in the post, by a moderator! Warren sent me a message on that occasion that I was delusional and the post didn't exist. I hope Monaco and Albert realizes who has there best interest in mind here! Does that sound like someone that is a supporter of Monaco's! I do not know why they are so entranced by this silly girl! Sorry I had to vent. Myadia I hope you don't let them troll over here! That is the problem of people who don't post. Well I think they have a few others to ban there still. I don't know why they call that site a forum as if people are allowed to express any kind of differing opinions. I hope they left the posts by those women so every one can see and read them and see exactly what kind of website they are! And I can't wait until this farce unravels and is exposed for what it is, as well as Charlene! I can't wait to a real journalist asks the hard questions about her past, and all her false accomplishments and accolades everyone is trying to prop her up with now.
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Post by MyAdia on Jun 17, 2011 13:44:27 GMT -5
Sandsla, I moved your post from Albert's thread here because it is more appropriate for this topic which Margarita started when she encountered the same problem there. Sandsla, I know you know this, but I will repeat it - these loonies are the one who are delusional and hysterical with believing all that silly praise Charlene, her relatives and her flunkies post there. It is reasons like this why I won't Charlene to be exposed for the con artist that and this relationship to be exposed for the farce that it is so perhaps these lunatics that run and post in that parallel universe of the real world could at least try to seek help.
I had hoped that you or anyone other sane people didn't waste time posting there because it is absolutely futile trying to enlightened these loonies. Realize, one of their rules is not to insult royals, thus their premise is that any negative information is insulting royals. In essence, their rules do not allow any negative information that is tue to be posting about these people.
Also, have you ever notice the vitriol these lunatics spew at those who do not agree with their glorification of their favorite piece of trash. You can always spot Charlene, her relatives and her flunkies - they are always the ones in every other post stating how much better Charlene is than trashy Stephanie, Caroline and Grace. Seriously, these people insult the Grimaldis in defense of Charlene in every other post.
Charlene Lynette Wittstock is a trashy pathological lying narcissistic con artist - and by stating this fact does not make one delusional nor hysterical.
Lastly, I am not afraid of any o fthose lunatic trolls. Most of Charlene's camp read us anyway. And, I hope none of those lunatics admins do not wasting their time coming here trying to run this board by telling us who and what we can discuss publicly. If you do not want anything on your board discuss on other public forums - then make your board private. I never understood why other message board administrators allowed those lunatics to dictate what they can discuss on their board.
So, vent if you want, but I hope you realize that these lunatics who literally idolize a pathological lying plastic surgery addicted trashy-dressing high school dropout are not even worth the breath and your typing time. really. seriously. They are not worth it because they are just as ill-informed and dumb as the rock that they idolize.
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Post by refia on Jun 17, 2011 15:45:13 GMT -5
On Bunte one comment which made me laugh but on the other side angry: Most of the comments are negative towards Charlene, because no one believes the made up stories. One person didn´t liked that and attacked a whole nation BloggersWas fuer eine niedertraechtige, gemeine Bande hier bloggt ! Die typisch deutsche Voreingenommenheit, noch schlimmer: Verurteilung ! Nur Kreaturen von solch primitiver mentalitaet vermoegen sich derart auszulassen, kommt das vom Frust ? oder Eifersucht etwa ? oder wohl beidem ... Fuerst Albert und Miss Charlene Wittstock sind ein ausgesprochen reizendes und ideales Paar ! Was wisst denn ihr alle schon von deren Privatleben Allenfalls weiss sich Miss Wittstock als kuenftige Regentin Monaco's in der Oeffentlich weit angemessener zu benehmen als diese ungehobelte, burschikose Victoria von Schweden sich zur Schau stellt, das ist ja schon mal sonnenklar ! Ich zitiere Franzi van Almsick die sagte: "Charlene wird Monaco eine wuerdige Fuerstin werden" AMEN ! Tout le bon Albert & Charlene Okay, too lazy to translate it better. Just with google: ;DBloggersWhat blogging for a vile, nasty gang here! The typical German bias, even worse, condemnation! Only creatures of such properties make such a primitive mind skipping, comes from the frustration? or about jealousy? or probably both ... Outside the Church, and Miss Charlene Wittstock are a very charming and perfect couple! What all of you already know because their private lives? At best, knows Miss Wittstock as future ruler of Monaco's in the public to adequately behave as this rough, tomboyish Victoria of Sweden, is on display, it's clear as ever! I quote Franzi van Almsick said: "Charlene, Monaco will be a worthy princess," AMEN! Tout le bon Albert & Charlene Stupid Sandsla, TRF is good for infos but not for discussions. They are too obsessed. As long we have a forum where we can talk about everything, it makes Charlene and her friends more ridiculous. On the Carl Philipp board the opinions about Sofia, his current girlfriend, are very negative. I don´t like her either. But one member from Sweden pointed out that if we want to discuss nude or not suitable pictures of Royals, the moderators stop it. As if Roals are saints and no one is allowed to destroy this image. I don´t share all the opinions with this member but here she/he was right!
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Post by hibou on Jun 17, 2011 16:56:16 GMT -5
Sandsla, I gave up there a long time ago. I only go over there once in a while to view and if need be to defend the few posters remaining who try to be objective about Charlene. You know you can always post here! We aren't the ones with the rose-colored glasses. You have also joined a very elite club -- there are quite a few people here who have been banned, so you are in good company!
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Post by refia on Jun 17, 2011 17:14:53 GMT -5
I can´t login. I´m just a few seconds at TRF, but than kicked out. Is this a server problem?
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Post by suite583 on Jun 17, 2011 19:58:13 GMT -5
Sandsla and Refia, I cannot find your names in their memberlist. So you had been cancelled. PM me if you want know more.
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Post by grimnir on Jun 18, 2011 13:01:02 GMT -5
Ich zitiere Franzi van Almsick die sagte: "Charlene wird Monaco eine wuerdige Fuerstin werden If I say something I'm a vile nasty gang member with a primitif mind, but if Franzi says it, it must be true. Logic oozing out at every word.
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Post by paca on Jun 18, 2011 13:13:12 GMT -5
Ich zitiere Franzi van Almsick die sagte: "Charlene wird Monaco eine wuerdige Fuerstin werden If I say something I'm a vile nasty gang member with a primitif mind, but if Franzi says it, it must be true. Logic oozing out at every word. LOL and Franzi of course is an authority in matters of Royalty...not particularly educated herself of course and known to be very bitchy. Especially towards successful swimmers. SHe is nice to those who are less successful. So obviously after pointing out that Charlene never swam in the same league as her, she can say sth nice about her... That is what van Almsick is like.
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Post by refia on Jun 18, 2011 13:48:03 GMT -5
Sandsla and Refia, I cannot find your names in their memberlist. So you had been cancelled. PM me if you want know more. I think it has something to do with the software. I see my name in the list "who is online" but after the login I get kicked out. Naja, it´s not that drama ;D
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