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Post by paca on May 15, 2011 16:46:12 GMT -5
What about Gareth? There was a photo of him with his supposedly girlfriend. I don't know if she was his from South Africa or if he acquired her from Monaco/France. Either way, I am sure he is looking to move up also. I think the Charlene's family will provide more entertainment value than the trashy non-dynamic duo themselves. Boy, I cannot wait to hear from Daddy Wittstocks after seeing his wife hitting the party circuit sloshed! The woman in the red was notes as Gareth's girlfriend by Hola.  the woman in green, isn't she the same who got sloshed with mom? |
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Post by margarita on May 16, 2011 0:45:34 GMT -5
CM "Maybe she's doing some sort of South African Voodoo Magic Spell - on PA and everyone else so nothing goes wrong before this wedding! (Now THAT wold not surprise me at all!) CW seems to have some kind of Black Magic working for her - she doesn't have anything else, that's for sure!"
... That what I'm saying all the time!!!
Somewhere I read that a South African Black woman (who was quoted in the article) sayed that SHE aranged CW meeting ALbert and getting close to him in S.A: I don't remember her name but in the article Nelson Mandela was mentioned. Well - I have some very good black friends so don't get me wrong.
But here is some sort of black magic like Voodoo involved! And maye that's the origin? I make you Princess of Monaco and you send Monaco's money to S.A.?
The problem for poor little Charlene & Mom:
they depend on the person who did/ does that for him forever. Plus: It will sooner or later backfire. Rather sooner.
Some instict tells me Albert should get closer to church - I mean not the institution but the faith - talk to a good priest, have a bath in holy water, go to a Monastery for a weekend or so, pray.
They placed something in places where is used to spend time.
Maybe that's why we have the impression he tries to flee Monaco and travels the world - without CW?
Instinctivly?
Say what you want about Monaco and Albert: but what is going on there wasn't possible without black magic.
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Post by MyAdia on May 16, 2011 5:58:10 GMT -5
I've said that Albert should have dumped himself in some oly water after fooling around with Nicole. Nicole actually mentioned in her Paris Match interview that she visited a marabout, which is sort of like the occult. In Togo, marabouts are extremely popular in all levels of society - even by government officials. But, they have specialties in wishing someone dead, getting a man to leave his wife for you and getting someone to fall in love with you. This is why I feel that Nicole is just pure evil.
A London psychic stated that Charlene is one of his client - he started advising her about her relationship with Albert AFTER he had predicted in an article that Albert wasn't going to ask her to marry him on a certain date.
These are the type of women that the Village Idiot of Monaco gets involved with. He needs to drink the holy water. Seriously, I've always felt that Albert will see a major change in his life once he sincerely embraces God. I felt in the beginning that Albert had a great destiny. But, his romps and mow marriage with dumpster trash after taking reign showed me wrong.
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Post by refia on May 16, 2011 7:02:57 GMT -5
Well said MyaDia. It´s tragic.
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Post by margarita on May 16, 2011 7:14:27 GMT -5
Jesus!!! "Seriously, I've always felt that Albert will see a major change in his life once he sincerely embraces God. I felt in the beginning that Albert had a great destiny." I'm glad to read this MyaDia  So I'm no lonely Kassandra but we are already a little choir  - great! Maybe someone can hear us and listen? He and Monaco have a destiny! That's sure. When I came to Monaco for the very first time I had this very strong feeling. When I see a person I kind of x-ray this person. I can't help it happens. When I come to a country or place I "feel it". Even befor I go. Sometimes I go to places in spite of all warnings and everything works out fine. Sometimes I didn't follow invitations or recommendations - and find out that something bad happened or would have happened. I can't explain - it is. Thank goodness! Albert has the seed of a great destiny in him and what he said about his original plans for Monaco in 2005 was honest. This place is special and important. No wonder so many persons try to lead him in mistray. The same would happen with Caroline - maybe in another way. And no wonder so many people (like us) care for Monaco for reasons they don't even fully understand themself. I mean - we all post here because we are interested in Monaco. But is it normal to spend so much time for reseach and analize? It is not. There is something about Monaco. I so much want to talk to Albert befor July!!! There is so much to say. And I'm sure this would make a difference. It is not about me - but purely for his family and Monaco. If someone has an idea - please write me a pm! I'm not kidding. I'm determined. And it drives me mad to see this ship heading towards the iceberg! Can't sit around. I promise to print some of the posts on RO and hand them to him. So ... if someone knows what I could do: please write a pm! |
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Post by emmeline on May 16, 2011 7:29:24 GMT -5
CM "Maybe she's doing some sort of South African Voodoo Magic Spell - on PA and everyone else so nothing goes wrong before this wedding! (Now THAT wold not surprise me at all!) CW seems to have some kind of Black Magic working for her - she doesn't have anything else, that's for sure!" Actually...the person that told me that Charlene can't have kids, also told me that Charlene made some sort of magic spell to Albert, so he can be tight to her (idk if forever, but still) Charlene (and Nicole) is so desperate that i really believe she could do something like that. Till now, seems to work very well. But i've been told too that her lucky phase ends somewhat in june or july this year, that's she is been extremely lucky, but it will fade in june or july. And i think it's true. We'll see. |
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Post by royalpauper on May 16, 2011 11:11:48 GMT -5
I so much want to talk to Albert befor July!!! There is so much to say. And I'm sure this would make a difference. It is not about me - but purely for his family and Monaco. If someone has an idea - please write me a pm! I'm not kidding. I'm determined. So ... if someone knows what I could do: please write a pm! Margarita, do you happen to have a sister who is perfect for Albert and is his true soul mate? Sorry, but I think you are taking it way too personal....  AdminNote: Fixed quote |
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Post by MyAdia on May 16, 2011 11:30:38 GMT -5
Margarita, do you happen to have a sister who is perfect for Albert and is his true soul mate? Sorry, but I think you are taking it way too personal.... Honestly, cannot the same be said for any one of us who post that we are taking this personally? I started taking it personally after being threaten by fanatical royal boards' administrators who feel their goal in life is to protect a trashy gold digger, by Charlene's Internet bullying goons and by crazy-ass Nicole, her sister and her team of bullying Internet goons. I take it personal as a woman that the media and other women glorify the likes of Charlene, Nicole, and Tamra for suckering a fool like Albert. I understand Margarita's frustration; I too like Monaco and see it going further down with Albert an Charlene at the realm. Margarita is just willing to go an extra step that many of us aren't willing to go. Margarita has shared with me her identity and she is a very intelligent woman who is just passionate about what she believes in. She believes in Monaco and Albert ruling it under the right conditions and I don't fault her for that. But, I also can see how someone can mistake her passion for a personal agenda since we have seen some of those over the year. |
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Post by royalpauper on May 16, 2011 12:24:04 GMT -5
I do like Margarita as she seems to be a very intelligent, educated and caring woman, but...If she thinks that Albert will "invite" her to come to his place and tell him how wrong he is about his choice of wife...or if she thinks that he even cares about what some women in front of their computers think about him and his future wife...I think Margarita is a bit naive or she thinks too high of herself to think that Albert is going to take her opinion into consideration and cancel his wedding. PLEEEASE!!!
Albert is NOT some kind of a saint and NO ONE is twisting his arm to marry WC. He is doing it willingly and has HIS OWN agenda. The same way WC has hers.
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Post by margarita on May 16, 2011 16:06:13 GMT -5
Thanks to both of you: royalpauper and MyaDia! I can understand royalpauper (btw: my sister is mentaly 30 years older then CW but physically 30 years younger then Albert ... so this wouldn't fit - on the other hand: she studies psychology... MyaDia: You put it perfectly. I try to say it with Nijnsky: "I'm a insane person that loves people. My insanity is my love for the people." Well - I'm mentally pretty healthy. Nevertheless I believe in Monaco and don't mind if some thinks I'm not normal. I can understand them: looking at Monaco today However: where does it lead us when we give up hope, passion, love, when we stop being constructive, stop to risk? Did all these revolutions gave mankind salvation? I don't think so. And I have experienced the opposite. That's why I enjoy posting here. And I like to read all the variety of opinions. RoyalPaupers:  for posting here. |
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Post by sandsla on May 16, 2011 21:59:42 GMT -5
Margarita, do you happen to have a sister who is perfect for Albert and is his true soul mate? Sorry, but I think you are taking it way too personal.... Honestly, cannot the same be said for any one of us who post that we are taking this personally? I started taking it personally after being threaten by fanatical royal boards' administrators who feel their goal in life is to protect a trashy gold digger, by Charlene's Internet bullying goons and by crazy-ass Nicole, her sister and her team of bullying Internet goons. I take it personal as a woman that the media and other women glorify the likes of Charlene, Nicole, and Tamra for suckering a fool like Albert. I understand Margarita's frustration; I too like Monaco and see it going further down with Albert an Charlene at the realm. Margarita is just willing to go an extra step that many of us aren't willing to go. Margarita has shared with me her identity and she is a very intelligent woman who is just passionate about what she believes in. She believes in Monaco and Albert ruling it under the right conditions and I don't fault her for that. But, I also can see how someone can mistake her passion for a personal agenda since we have seen some of those over the year. Well said, about everything. I know I haven't posted here all these years because I get a kick out of beating up on insignificant people in the world. RP, as suspicious as I am about many people who have posted on these forums, I know Margarita is sincere and has been nothing but upfront about who she is or any motivation she might have here. And, yes it could be said of all of us, and I too would be the first to think someone seriously had a screw loose to spend the kind of time here that we all have, or that would even post at all about other peoples lives if I hadn't been so compelled to participate here myself, or to have actually had the opportunity to see that there are a lot of intelligent and selfless people on these forums that are otherwise sane people ;D and who I know do not have any kind of self serving agenda....Thank God or I probably would have already committed myself years ago! It is hard to explain exactly why this particular instance matters so much to us, but evidently it really strikes a very deep cord with many women to the point that we even seem compelled to feel like we all have something personal at stake here. I think Charlene and this situation just really embodies all that we loath and resent and "I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!!!" ;D I'm not sure how or why we all found ourselves here when all of us seem to have enough going on ourselves than to be so bothered and concerned by this, yet here we all are? The idea that so many of us seem to be so much of the same mind is...well just strange in that we would actually engage and be willing to take so much of our own time to participate in posting here....and for so long I mean I barely answer my phone if I don't absolutely have to! ;D |
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Post by mrplowfan on May 16, 2011 23:05:33 GMT -5
Exactly, Sandsla. I think any woman would be offended by Charlene's inability to hold a job while wildly doing nothing but screwing some guy for money. That's called prostitution, no matter how you couch it.
When I was young, the goal was to have that engagement ring for Christmas of your Senior year of college. Then it went to getting an "MRS" degree IN COLLEGE. Now, women are respected not by the man they are "doing" but by what they have "done" with their lives. Respect is earned. Charlene has none.
For anyone that has been entranced by Grace and Rainier's actions that EARNED respect you can't help but feel horrible for Monaco by this train wreck.
There's not a person who sees the whole thing that doesn't want to shake Albert and scream in his face to make him see reason. He may be doing it for "his own reasons" but I think he's not very smart and was bamboozled by a sham artist.
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Post by hibou on May 17, 2011 7:14:19 GMT -5
I do like Margarita as she seems to be a very intelligent, educated and caring woman, but...If she thinks that Albert will "invite" her to come to his place and tell him how wrong he is about his choice of wife...or if she thinks that he even cares about what some women in front of their computers think about him and his future wife...I think Margarita is a bit naive or she thinks too high of herself to think that Albert is going to take her opinion into consideration and cancel his wedding. PLEEEASE!!! Albert is NOT some kind of a saint and NO ONE is twisting his arm to marry WC. He is doing it willingly and has HIS OWN agenda. The same way WC has hers. The way to save Monaco is for Albert to step aside. Since that is unlikely to happen, Albert should announce he has an addiction problem he has been fighting for years, break off the marriage, enter rehab, find God, give Caroline the regency while he works on his addiction (this way he is still technically sovereign), disappear for a couple of years, and then announce for reasons of health that he is stepping down. It's the only way to save Monaco. I am convinced that once Albert dies, all the crap we've been blogging about will come out in some Kitty Kelly tell all book. Eringer thinks it won't happen but only because people find him so boring as to not bother. Isn't that Karma, the one thing he really craves is attention and he can't get it on his own. He has to try and buy it. How sad is that? JMO |
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Post by royalpauper on May 17, 2011 11:24:32 GMT -5
I do like Margarita as she seems to be a very intelligent, educated and caring woman, but...If she thinks that Albert will "invite" her to come to his place and tell him how wrong he is about his choice of wife...or if she thinks that he even cares about what some women in front of their computers think about him and his future wife...I think Margarita is a bit naive or she thinks too high of herself to think that Albert is going to take her opinion into consideration and cancel his wedding. PLEEEASE!!! Albert is NOT some kind of a saint and NO ONE is twisting his arm to marry WC. He is doing it willingly and has HIS OWN agenda. The same way WC has hers. Since that is unlikely to happen, Albert should announce he has an addiction problem he has been fighting for years, break off the marriage, enter rehab, find God, give Caroline the regency while he works on his addiction (this way he is still technically sovereign), disappear for a couple of years, and then announce for reasons of health that he is stepping down. It's the only way to save Monaco. I am convinced that once Albert dies, all the crap we've been blogging about will come out in some Kitty Kelly tell all book. Eringer thinks it won't happen but only because people find him so boring as to not bother. Isn't that Karma, the one thing he really craves is attention and he can't get it on his own. He has to try and buy it. How sad is that? JMO With any addiction, as with alcoholism, the person needs to realize, accept and admit their addiction before they can start any kind of rehabilitation. I don't think Albert is even close to the point of realization. He is one of those people who don't learn anything unless they fall straight on their face...and in front of everyone. I thought that would happen when Nicole went public with existence of their son. At the same time Tamara was squeezing him by his neck...and I thought OK this is the point when he will have to realize what he is doing and repent. But...with the help of his cronies he managed to patched things over and just continued with his BS life like nothing had happened. I do believe that he is not off the hook jet and that God/Universe finds the way to get back to us when we least expect. It might be that that was WC's role in this life to bring him down and exposed him for what he is. I think that both of them are going to learn their life lesson at the same time...and is going to be ugly. JMO |
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Post by emmeline on May 17, 2011 11:36:17 GMT -5
"It might be that that was WC's role in this life to bring him down and exposed him for what he is. I think that both of them are going to learn their life lesson at the same time...and is going to be ugly. JMO"
I completely agree!
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Post by royalpauper on May 17, 2011 11:51:37 GMT -5
Thanks to both of you: royalpauper and MyaDia! Margarita, please don't get me wrong, I do understand what you are thinking and where you are coming from. I just don't understand your hope/belief that Albert actually cares for any ones opinion and feelings but his...and that he would listen to you or anyone on this boards no matter how right, intelligent and important you are. Maybe you have joined us recently and you are still optimistic about what he could do as a leader for his country. Most of us have been at that point a couple of years ago, so I hope you can understand my "impatiens" with "if I could only talk with him, he would listen" crap. Sorry! As Sandla said we all have full lives, but somehow at he some point have gotten sucked in following this pathetic soap opera. I must admit, I tried to leave couple of times...and still thinking about it. But every time someone came with an interesting post and the point of view, I am compelled to post again. ;D  Also, I miss discussion with all of you more then I miss this two phonies. ;D I always liked Monaco, I spent many summers in and around Monaco. When Rainer died, I was intrigued to see what would happen and if Albert would make it better. At that time I didn't know much about his private life and him as a person, but it was surprising for me to see that people who knew Rainer and Albert were not very enthusiastic about him taking over. When I asked few of them what they think about their new sovereign I always got the same answer: he is OK. That's it! At that time I didn't realize that you can't say what you really think in Monaco, especially if you plan to have any kind of carrier or position. So, slowly but surely i got sucked in and a few years later I am still here.  Damn! |
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Post by Elektra on May 17, 2011 12:18:28 GMT -5
I don't think my post belongs here but since I refer to what has been said before, I just post it here.
IMO - and I can only judge from what is out in the open - pictures, statements, interviews, etc. - PA - and as a matter of fact all the Grimaldis - are not exactly ruled by reason but are driven by nature, passion, desire.
IMO PA acts or behaves like a "silverback" - an absolute monarch on his territory. And as long he has the power and enough money nothing will change. Unless he is challenged by a younger one with even more power and money. Than he will loose his attraction to those women he likes to surround himself with.
I think with PA in power the laws of nature rule in Monaco not the laws of reason.
That's why the Grimaldis are so fascinating. They do what pleases them - no restrictions keep them back not even ugly consequences.
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Post by sandsla on May 17, 2011 16:04:02 GMT -5
Thanks for the article Emmeline. Charlene has been playing with words (actually out right lying) in her latest interview to conceal the fact that her mother and her brother are living off of Albert. Charlene stated that they moved to France. Albert is too stupid to realize that he got himself hooked up with an entire family of grifters with the lazy scheming Charlene leading the pack. He doesn't want his own children living in Monaco, but he can take care of this entire con artist family. Notice how daddy Wittstock is putting down everything in South Africa - the water is contaminate and now the crime. Well, it was the same contaminated high crime area you lived in for thirty years until your con artist daughter hit the mother lode with the village Idiot of Monaco.[/b] Good lawd Albert is so damn stupid! Forget the reasons Eringer states, Albert is a fool for allowing a dumb-as-a-rock high school dropout like Charlene scam him. [/quote] They've been living off him for years who does the palace think is all over the sugar boards with their ridiculous over the top posts about how much Albert and Monaco needs their do nothing, legs in the air, high school drop out daughter and sister, and then with their threats and blame that every problem of Charlene's is the blame of the Palace. I mean seriously what kind of parents are not just OK but eager with their daughter who is happy to be "kept" as a public whore, but then Albert wouldn't be the first there, she's been doing that her whole life. Obviously they champion it! They are all obviously on the take and they see nothing wrong with it. Her dad has some nerve even suggesting that he can't wait to live off his new son in law. Grace's father not only paid the two million dowry but he financed everyone's trip on the boat over to Grace's wedding. I am guessing they paid for her engagement party in NY also-they didn't hot foot it to Monaco or live off Grace or try to cash in on her fame as a Hollywood actress--Monaco did that! In fact MGM picked up the bill and made the wedding what it was! Monaco supplied the venue and little else, it seems the bride brought everything, most importantly she tried to instill a sense of dignity there. How the palace could have this so ass backwards! This situation couldn't be more the polar opposite, so I don't know why they think they can conjure up and exploit the memory of Grace with this loser! I don't care that her family doesn't have any money, that's OK, but for all of them to think Albert should be footing the bill for them for the rest of their lives. They have made no bones now that they can't pack their bags quick enough. Yes, I'm sure the SA are sad to see these scavengers go! Just like there daughter they obviously feel entitled, and that is what daddy he meant by adding he was giving Albert his most precious possession--Kaching!!! Pimping out his daughter! These people are no different than with Tamara and Nicole, the whole big top is coming to town now, and the entire family thinks they are owed a piece of Albert's pie. Albert isn't happy unless he can lie down with dogs, so he better not complain about waking up with the flees. Rainier knew what he was doing when he gave half of everything to Caroline--he absolutely knew there would be nothing left of Albert's share, and he had to entrust someone more sensible, so there would be a little something left after Albert let every Tom, Dick and Harry exploit and shake him down. Albert says he is leaving his money to charity , will I think everyone had that figured out since he has been doing that for years now , but I don't think most people would find Albert's charitable causes very worthy--now he can add the Whitstocks to that list. I really can't believe Caroline stays is Monaco. I bet it no time they will not be talking. Monaco and Albert need Caroline a lot more than Caroline needs Albert or Monaco--I know it must make her sick, but she should not have caved--she should have told Albert he was making a choice that affected her too, and that she was going to making a couple of her own that might affect him also. I guess Albert is as dumb as he is rich--maybe he'll finally smarten up when he loses every last thing, because at the rate he's going, that time doesn't look too far away, I can't wait for the messy divorce settlement and the all the blackmailing threats from all of them when this happens--her whole family is going to get involved. Remember Esther begging us to just let Charlene have her blackmailing fairytale--Esther (IMO-Charlene's brother) gave us a taste of exactly what her family was about....absolutely no conscience, sounds like the other brother is the smarter one after all--he is smart enough to stay away from his grifter family. I wonder if the mysterious brother will be at the wedding? I tried not to say anything about the family in the befinning, but like Charlene their own actions and eagerness to set up in house in Monaco now, and the brother, there is no reason at all he should be freeloading in Monaco. Charlene is a grown woman who has lived her whole life away from her family- -she had no problem leaving them for the last five years, so why is it important now that they feel they need to move to Monaco? I guess because no one else will have anything else to do with Charlene, even her soon to be husband stupid enough to take down his country for these people! Where ever they live or move to, they have made it perfectly clear that Albert is picking up the tab and they're more than OK with it! Who thinks Albert will be born dirt poor in his next life? Sorry I am still catching up on threads here. I want to add with William and Kate in California and the US during Albert and Charlene's wedding, does anyone think it is going to get more than a 10 second mention anywhere (even if they weren't in town :  . If it does it will only be to conjure up the memory of Grace, because no one cares about his greedy wanna be money taking mail order loser bride, not in the US anyway. It will be more polite to just mention Grace. |
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Post by hibou on May 17, 2011 21:06:18 GMT -5
Now adding to it all, Carla Bruni is pregnant. So if they come to the wedding all eyes will be on Carla not the bride. Wouldn't that be fun!
So between William and Kate, Zara Phillips wedding and Carla Bruni, there is way too much fun news out there to follow these two. JMO
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Post by emmeline on May 17, 2011 21:10:22 GMT -5
They are definetely doom. Or Charlene has something negative that brings Albert down with her.
First, Kate's dress very Grace Kelly-esque. All eyes on her, nobody cares for Charlene. Now, in her own wedding, Carla appears pregnant. All eyes on Carla, nobody cares for the bride.
Victoria of Sweden looks like she is pregnant too. All eyes on her, again.
Charlene is doomed!
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- great!
for posting here.
Damn!
. If it does it will only be to conjure up the memory of Grace, because no one cares about his greedy wanna be money taking mail order loser bride, not in the US anyway. It will be more polite to just mention Grace.