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Post by cm7007 on Jul 3, 2011 21:18:30 GMT -5
can we post on renaud's blog??? if so can any of our fluent french speakers/writers [i'm not fluent enough] maybe post the vogue interview to him? as well as all the other b.s. that might help his next article. he seems a very capable journalist and could be working on something more but it never hurts to drop reporters info. especially if it's not the only story you're covering. and he may not read vogue.com. just a thought. remember a poster on eringer's blog i believe it was said there was so much more to this. i think it's all starting to unfold and this still is just the beginning. it would be freakin HILARIOUS, I'm talking LOL, LMAO, ROFLMAO kind of HILARIOUS if nicole was one of the three baby mamas!!! Oh my God! Are you suggesting Nicole may have had another baby by Albert!!!?? Could be why she was moved to Switzerland!!!? Oh please! This is getting too ridiculous. That can't be!
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Post by mrplowfan on Jul 3, 2011 21:44:30 GMT -5
Several papers have insinuated and at least one article claimed that Nicole "may" have another child with Albert and that's why she was in Monaco. I don't think that's the case. I think she didn't need an excuse to show up. She just wanted to make sure there was a reminder about her son in the press. It's also why I don't buy the "Jazmin was in Monaco and the one who was stopped at the airport" story someone floated on Eringer to explain the whole runaway bride theory. If Jazmin had been in Monaco she'd have been photographed. The sugars can't even accept when Albert's own staff ADMITTED that there was an issue.
If it was true, she'd have been broadcasting it from the highest mountain. Second, her lip is so huge from injections - wait maybe that is that her butt on her face - I doubt she could get pregnant (yuk). If Albert was that stupid then that's all his fault.
Charlene sold herself and her soul to get that awful tiara and title. Her parents could have helped her if she'd wanted out. Instead her Mom is doing the famous "model pose" in the official photograph while everyone else is standing normally. Charlene is an adult. She and Albert have been together for years. She knew what she was getting into.
Msgr. Barsi needs to be removed by the Pope for not stopping the farce. The church allowed him to wed knowing what was going on? Don't tell me he didn't counsel the couple in private. If she'd wanted out, really, he would not have married her.
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Post by creativemind on Jul 3, 2011 23:32:00 GMT -5
can we post on renaud's blog??? if so can any of our fluent french speakers/writers [i'm not fluent enough] maybe post the vogue interview to him? as well as all the other b.s. that might help his next article. he seems a very capable journalist and could be working on something more but it never hurts to drop reporters info. especially if it's not the only story you're covering. and he may not read vogue.com. just a thought. remember a poster on eringer's blog i believe it was said there was so much more to this. i think it's all starting to unfold and this still is just the beginning. it would be freakin HILARIOUS, I'm talking LOL, LMAO, ROFLMAO kind of HILARIOUS if nicole was one of the three baby mamas!!! Oh my God! Are you suggesting Nicole may have had another baby by Albert!!!?? Could be why she was moved to Switzerland!!!? Oh please! This is getting too ridiculous. That can't be! didn't mean to get your blood pressure racing!!! but seriously, this whole thing is such a farce it wouldn't surprise me. but i don't think so.
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Post by mum2girls on Jul 4, 2011 0:39:15 GMT -5
It seems she has agreed to a 5 year deal for 5.5million euros !! not a lot considering.
She will be required to produce 1 or 2 heirs, would say she will be at the Dr's office for that insemination (if she has any sense at all).
To give her credit, her performance over these past few days was worthy of an oscar.
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Post by mrszinck on Jul 4, 2011 0:50:17 GMT -5
www.demorgen.be/dm/nl/1008/Showbizz/article/detail/1287394/2011/07/04/Prinses-Charlene-van-Monaco-probeerde-drie-keer-te-vluchten.dhtmlShe tried three times to run awayA first time in May of this year, during a trip to the French capital Paris, for her wedding dress by Armani. Not much later, during the GP Formula 1 Monaco Grand Prix, she attempted to get away again. And the third time she had the story… a single trip to South Africa. She was is being drafted to continue, according with an agreement between the bridal couple. But Albert would have agreed to a number of DNA tests to be undergone in order to exclude him from the fatherhood of any two other illegitimate children. If that turn out and are younger than five years, then that means that the notorious womanizer has cheated, because the two are a couple already five years. And Yes, one suspected illegitimate child would be born, the other not yet ... Don't have time for the rest but this says the media after the weekend event. ;D
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Post by blue j on Jul 4, 2011 2:35:02 GMT -5
I believe the whole story with WC running away was Albert's PR doing. They wanted more attention in media & believed that it would clear WC image that she was not a golddigger & showing her as a victim would make people feel sorry for her & like her more. Since stupid Albert made WC a Monaco flagship, he believes it is in the best interest of Monaco to portray her in the best light. I believe that it was staged by Albert's PR because they did such things in the past. Example: in 2006 after yacht girl photos, there were very cheesy pictures of Albert & WC walking to the boat, hugging & swimming away in that motorboat; everything was made to look like paparazzi photos. Another example, after WC's lie about shoulder injury there were very staged pictures (year 2007 or 2008) showing Albert & WC on their way to some well-known local orthopedist. Next example, myadia reported that WC sued some mag (German?) for calling her Albert's girlfriend; myadia believed this ridiculous lawsuit was Albert's idea & I feel the same. So, this run-away-bride story is another ridiculous Albert's PR and a gold-digger WC just played along. She'd do everything for money and position, she wanted this job badly. LOL. But they didn't predict it would turn against them. Crazy stories about new kid(s) out-of-wedlock came up.
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Post by margarita on Jul 4, 2011 2:47:00 GMT -5
blue j ! I have the same feeling. They wanted to show the world she is no calculating plastic gold digger but human - and a "strong personality" ( ;D if so she would be long gone ;D)
It seems staged because it doesn't make sense! She is her own hostage but not of Albert or French police.
Why did the S.A. ambassy in Paris didn't help her? WHy didn't she bord the airplane? If her passport + ticket are valid and no snow in her bag nothing and no one can stop her.
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Post by MyAdia on Jul 4, 2011 8:15:09 GMT -5
Sorry guys, there is no way in hell that Albert planned this runaway bride story as a PR stunt to attract attention and boost Charlene's image. Praytell, how does revealing that the future Princess of Monaco tried to escape from marrying its Prince because of an upcoming paternity test benefit Charlene, Albert or Monaco. Please, tell me how. This story made international news and made Albert and Monaco laugh stocks of the world - along with their $70 million wedding. Do you really believe that this helped the image and economical benefits that they planned and hoped from the beginning for this made-for-tv wedding? Come on, really?
Creative, I am with you - I do not believe for one minute that Nicole is pregnant with Albert's child. Albert has shown nothing but pure contempt for Nicole - I don't believe that they have any kind of relationship. But, I am sure Nicole is loving all the news stating that there is.
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Post by MyAdia on Jul 4, 2011 8:21:07 GMT -5
blue j ! I have the same feeling. They wanted to show the world she is no calculating plastic gold digger but human - and a "strong personality" ( ;D if so she would be long gone ;D) It seems staged because it doesn't make sense! She is her own hostage but not of Albert or French police. Why did the S.A. ambassy in Paris didn't help her? WHy didn't she bord the airplane? If her passport + ticket are valid and no snow in her bag nothing and no one can stop her. Has it ever occurred to anyone that Charlene was at the SA embassy to complete any process that she has to for her Monaco citizenship? It is so ridiculous to believe that Charlene was forced to marry Albert and has been held against her will for the last month - a woman who has been traveling back and for the to four countries just in the last month.
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Post by margarita on Jul 4, 2011 8:26:52 GMT -5
Albert's PR-team has definitly not planned that. But maybe Charlene makes her own PR - to keep her good image and build up the image of "Charlene the poor victim" - no matter how much harm it does to Monaco's image... ? (Didn't we say CW cares for nobody but CW and is not integer ... and aren't we proven right every day more ?) There must be some truth in Charlene ticking out before the wedding BUT the run-away-bride doesn't match the VOGUE interview and her going through the ceremonies. Sometimes I think she is drugged or unter medication or has a very ! serious disorder: I mean - Palace sources (reluctantly) confirmed there was a row between them shortly before the wedding - so it is very likely that there happened something on Nice Airport ... and maybe in Paris. On the other hand we have her interviews of happy bride. It doesn't make sense! Sorry - IMO Charlene doesn't make sense...
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Post by MyAdia on Jul 4, 2011 8:43:51 GMT -5
Margarita, of course there is some truth to this story - please read my previous posts. I really do believe that Charlene bought a one-way ticket to SA, she was intercepted at the Nice airport, her passport was confiscated and Albert's entourage "convinced" her to return. I really do believe that Albert is facing a paternity test - because it is a fact that Albert still fools around on Charlene. I disagree with the media's spin on this story and their belief that Charlene really wanted to leave Monaco permanently! I believe the media, Albert and his entourage do not Charlene's true intent and motivations in her one way ticket attempted 'flee" to South Africa. As I stated man times before since this story broke, know Charlene for the true con artist she really is - it was NEVER her intent of REALLY TRULY not going through with the wedding.
The story wouldn't have been known if Albert really knew what kind of a woman he is marrying. If he really did know Charlene, he would have known that it was not necessary to send an entourage to convince Charlene to stay (i.e. convince her not to give up a lief of fame and complete luxury). the news broke of the high level officials that was required to do such tasks of detaining hr and confiscating her passport!
This story really has two major ironies - the press not knowing the real Charlene and Albert not knowing the real Charlene. The consequence is of these ironies is that Charlene's attention-and-face-seeking temper tantrum with Albert caused this to blow up in her face. Early on in the relationship, Charlene has pulled this run-and-come-and-get-me stunt with Albert before - and it has worked for her - Albert sent someone to get her - thus enforcing the false myth in Albert's mind (to Charlene's benefit) that Charlene's presence is Albert's life is valuable and beneficial to both him and Monaco.
Again, Charlene NEVER wanted this latest attention-seeking with Albert to make international news. her desire was to save face with Albert and hold some leverage over him that she really was willing to give this all up. It backfired big time because I really believe that Charlene and Albert will only and has only reaped negative karma for every single action that they have taken since announcing this engagement. They messed with the wrong person this time - God, thus they are reaping only what they sowed to each other in this relationship and to he public - pure deception,
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Post by margarita on Jul 4, 2011 8:53:12 GMT -5
MyAdia that makes sense. I read your previous post but didn't assume that CW was really so naiv to assume, there is no way this might be leaked and might turn against her. But your explanation totally makes sense! ... her arrogance will be her downfall. And the many people she was reported (and not reported) to have treatened badly and even cruel on her way up...
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Post by MyAdia on Jul 4, 2011 11:31:10 GMT -5
A betting agency is taking bets on whether Charlene will return from South Africa. From News Time in South Africa:
William Hill Betting Princess Charlene Won’t Return From Honeymoon
Monday, July 04, 2011
British bookmakers William Hill are making newly crowned Charlene Wittstock, Her not so Serene Highness The Princess of Monaco, the odds on favourite in their 'weekend wedding to end first' betting at 4/7.
The Princess and Albert II, Prince of Monaco were married in an intimate civil ceremony on Friday followed by the religious wedding on Saturday which is to be rounded off with their honeymoon in South Africa.
The news out of Monaco has not been promising with officials confirming that the son of Rainier III, Prince of Monaco, and the American actress Grace Kelly will be facing at least one paternity test shortly.
In addition reports that broke Sunday suggest that the Princess tried to make a break for it on three separate occasions but was turned back.
Now that they are married the bookies are betting she won’t even return to Monaco.
William Hill on their website suggest : “The latest snaps of the Monaco royal wedding have prompted William Hill to promote Prince Albert & Charlene to favourites in their ‘weekend wedding to end first betting at 4/7. Kate Moss & Jamie Hince are 2/1 with Crouch & Clancy 3/1 shots.
“Hills also offer 5/1 that Charlene does not return from her honeymoon in South Africa!
“Last weekend’s weddings look a precarious bunch but the information coming out of Monaco suggests that their wedding was over before it has even begun!” said Hill’s spokesman Rupert Adams.
Which marriage will end first? 4/7 Prince Albert and Charlene Wittstock 2/1 Kate Moss and Jamie Hince 5/1 Peter Crouch and Abbey Clancey
Will all three be married in five years? 2/9 No; 3/1 Yes
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Post by royalpauper on Jul 4, 2011 11:52:27 GMT -5
Here is my two cents (after talking to some people in Monaco over the weekend). There was a marriage contract between WC and Albert from the beginning of their relationship. The moment the Palace (with Albert's agreement of course) considered WC for "the role" in early 2005 (late 2004) they had an marriage contract drown out. WC agreed to be first Albert's "official companion" and if everything works out she will be promoted to his "girlfriend" with a final price of getting tiara and title (if everything works out as planed). It was agreed among all parties that if everything ends up in a marriage WC will have to commit to at least five years of marriage and a 1 or 2 children. She will be given 40,000 euros a month to pay for her up keeping (treatments, surgeries, clothing trips...) during the "courtship". In case of the marriage it was agreed that WC will be given 5.5 million Euros and will be free to leave after 5 years if she wished to do so. Any children born will stay with father in Monaco (The Palace) and WC will have visitations and right to spend vacations with child/children. She will have rights to come and stay in Monaco as much as she wants and will have a home in France near Monaco. WC was not happy about the child/children's part, but she regardlessly agreed to everything.
WC agreed to all of that in 2005 hoping that the marriage thing will work out, because the only thing she ever wanted is the title, tiara and fame. After Albert finally proposed she said "yes" even though she knew he was cheating on her, but she never believed he will be that stupid and careless to get someone pregnant. When she heard about pregnancies and possible illegitimate children she was stunned. She couldn't believe that after so much waiting she is going to lose her "prise" just weeks before reaching her goal. WC could NEVER back up at this point, and this was the perfect moment to renegotiate the original deal.
She came up with the plan that will ensure she gets married, saves her face (in front of inner circle; family and friends) and change the contract. WC knew that Albert will NEVER back up from the marriage, not at this point. It was way to late...So, she "made up" a run! She knew "they" will never let her leave a couple of weeks before the wedding so she went to airport and bought the one way ticket pretending to leave "forever" (but she made sure everyone knew she is leaving before she left for Nice). Police was already waiting for her there! Sooo, after a long "convincing" and renegotiating they agreed that she doesn't have to perform all "Princess duties" aka. she doesn't have to provide Monaco with an heir. She will become Princess of Monaco, she will have her tiara, fame and after five years she could leave with 5.5 mil Euros in her pocket, homes in France and SA...and (I am not 100% sure about this one) that she can keep the Princess title for life.
This makes much more sense to me then any other theory. Also, as a woman and mother, i could understand why she doesn't want to have a child/children with this man. Can you imagine leaving your small children behind after the divorce? Also, can you imagine your poor children having all those half brothers and sisters knowing that there must be many more out there that even PA doesn't know about! Yucky!
The bad part is that WC never thought media will find out about this and turn her fairy tale story and wedding into mockery! She did everything to show "happy bride" and pose for the "history books". Unfortunately as much as her skin is thick she couldn't cover up a deep unhappiness that was oozing around them and pure discuss on couple of occasions. At the civil ceremony she was truly satisfied and was waiving to the "crowed" happily. Next day at the religious ceremony she must have started to feel how wrong all of this is and you could see uneasiness and concern in her eyes. By the time she reached ST Devote she probably finally felt embarrassment, and IMO those tears were real...at least for a second.
Well, she deserved what she got and what is still coming toward her...and it ain't gonna be pretty...no matter how she tries to paint it.
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Post by mrszinck on Jul 4, 2011 12:02:52 GMT -5
‘WC was not happy about the child/children's part, but she regardlessly agreed to everything.’
I think they will make a child … this is FlasticFace who we talk about...
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Post by Elektra on Jul 4, 2011 12:27:49 GMT -5
mrszinck: I agree with you. I think they already know the gender of the first child. It is possible nowadays and they will not rely on chance and nature. There is too much at stake. I even think they will not divorce. We well see pictures pouring in showing a perfect couple and their perfect children. What they are doing after the photo shoots, well, that is left to one's imagination. They are in for keeping up appearance.
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Post by hibou on Jul 4, 2011 12:50:48 GMT -5
mrszinck: I agree with you. I think they already know the gender of the first child. It is possible nowadays and they will not rely on chance and nature. There is too much at stake. I even think they will not divorce. We well see pictures pouring in showing a perfect couple and their perfect children. What they are doing after the photo shoots, well, that is left to one's imagination. They are in for keeping up appearance. Oh she wanted this marriage. I have gone back and looked at the videos we have and SHE is the one making the moves on him. She is the one who gets the cash. I'm sure in the pre-nup she will get bucket loads of cash if she produces a male heir which I'm sure she will do by test tube. I doubt she will care if she leaves the kid in Monaco. I doubt she will give any thought to the backlash she will receive if she does it. Grace stayed in the marriage because she would never abandon her kids. I do think in the end she and Rainier had a solid marriage but I think the early years were very rough on Grace. JMO
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Post by mrszinck on Jul 4, 2011 12:54:50 GMT -5
‘We well see pictures pouring in showing a perfect couple and their perfect children’
Sorry. Electra! But I do not believe that. If they cheat each other-- It comes in the media.
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Post by emmeline on Jul 4, 2011 14:05:37 GMT -5
Well, i like royal pauper's theory. I want to believe everything is that way. I mean, i can think whatever i want of Charlene, that is whore, prostitute, high paid escorte who became Princess, but at the children issue...motherhood makes miracles. Maybe she won't like to leave her child/children away from her...that, if the children is hers of course. Maybe the job of the surrogate mother will make it easier for her to not develop any love to those children.
I'm sure that if she gets pregnant, or they get pregnant a surrogate mother, the kid will be a boy. I'm not sure if they'll have another kid.
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Post by cm7007 on Jul 4, 2011 14:52:02 GMT -5
I agree with RP too. I do think they will have at least one heir - manufactured - a boy. BUT - what they don't seem to have taken into account - or maybe they have - what if she can't carry a child? Many women can't. What if she miscarries? - many women do. If she has it through a surrogate - the press will find out -esp. now - they are onto these two and that's too big a story. Of course they both will have affairs. He better get a vasectomy though! Please Albert!!! They'll at least try to have a child because why else did PA go through with it. Clearly he doesn't love her! CLEARLY! I also agree wit MyaDia - there is no way this woman would have NOT gone through with the marriage. The tears! Probably tears of relief - she's been thorough so much and finally got what she wanted! Think about all the surgeries (big ouch factor!!!), the humiliation, the embarrassment, the name calling! Knowing how he's been cheating on her and god only knows what else she had to do to get the title!
But I do believe she's getting an additional 5.5 million more to stay. If that's all she's getting after this - to stay and marry him - then the original amount really can't be all that much! And believe me unless she's guaranteed 50 million Euros - and at least half of it is already in a bank vault somewhere - in her name only - then she really got screwed - BIG TIME! And, somehow, I don't think she's getting anywhere near that much. I think that stupid title and fame meant more to her than the actual money. After all - we have established that she is a really stupid girl.
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