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Post by sandsla on Jul 7, 2011 20:14:14 GMT -5
On the other hand, if it were the woman who had a few children here and there by one night stands, all of which she had abandoned, how would you call her? Just promiscuous? please... the leniency with which guys are treated equals that of the Catholic church. What we've always called them here...scheming trash whores. [/u]![/b] I don't think Albert is earning any points here--where he is reckless, he has no intention to bring a child into the world, where the women do? They are using their own child as a pawn for their own financial gain, or recognition, at the expense of the child and a man, by knowingly bringing a child into the world that is not born out of any real relationship, and knowing that child does not have a chance of a normal relationship with their biological father--a man (for instance in Tamara's situation) that she doesn't even know herself, yet she expects that a man she had sex with that she had met only an hour before should support her and her offspring for the rest of her life...it is really quite a different thing! For a woman to expect to benefit off of a child and a man--trying to trap him in that way, by intentionally bringing a child into the world that one already knows is going to have a very complicated life and relationship with their father because it is artificially being forced on someone, again that is really quite a different thing? Women are the ones that get pregnant fair or not, and they now have every option in the world to keep from getting pregnant and one that is very obvious is not to sleep with a man who is not wearing a condom--it's not like these women wouldn't know, or how about not sleeping with them at all? The other thing is the pill is what sparked a huge movement in women's rights, so to play the victim now regarding procreating in 2011 really pisses me off, and it sets back women 100's of years, as if women don't have the mind in this day and age to keep themselves from becoming pregnant....that women are so mindless that they are not capable of making the most obvious decisions over their own body, or are so feeble and stupid that they cannot be held responsible for themselves or their own actions. I'm sorry but this victim thinking and lack of taking responsibility for oneself or own actions in life really get to me, also women unlike men still have the choice of having the option of whether or not they want to raise or mother or support a child whether they decide to give birth or not, and men don't seem to get that choice or option-- especially when the child is conceived for the express purpose of being some opportunistic creep of a woman's meal ticket--conceived as a pawn for their own benefit! Not only are men expected to "help" raise a child, but in Albert's case he is not just responsible for raising his half, but being solely responsible for not just the child, but the mother too? And I guess for the rest of their life? For no other reason than he is a very rich man? There are not too many women out there anxious to get pregnant in an effort to hold a poorer mans feet to the fire, and I honestly believe there would be a lot less children born as pawns in the world and used in this way if women could not rely on it! In Albert's case he shows a recklessness himself in not preventing a child being born from his own actions, but also in not staying away and dating the kind of women that would actually do such a thing in the first place by gunning for him, and even more stupid to actually have unprotected sex with these women. That said, condoms are not as reliable as the pill or other forms of birth control, so if a women is serious about not wanting or expecting a child she knows to be on birth control, and it doesn't slip a woman's mind when they are sleeping with a man they don't usually sleep with and that also happens to be a billionaire prince, especially when they are still married to other men! These women are lowlifes and as the saying goes if you lie down with dogs you wake up with flees! Albert in his position and especially with his history should know better by now!
I also want to say just because Albert takes a paternity test doesn't automatically mean he has slept with these women--he would take a paternity test for no other reason than to prove they are false allegations, not that I don't think Albert is dumb enough to actually think that he can get away with having an open marriage and to not expect a women or enemies to extort money from him, or to play it out in the press, especially now that he's a married man! I have been warning about this forever!
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Post by sandsla on Jul 7, 2011 20:15:03 GMT -5
Sarah, the thing with this relationship (cough) is that Charlene knows she is not in anything that resembles a real relationship and she never has been--this is all about money, a Title, and believe it or not getting "a Tiara!" ;D I am sure Charlene is free to screw around just as much as she likes, in spite of the fact that she has actually gotten paid for her part in this deal for many years now! Promiscuity does not play into any part of this relationship between these two people, if you could even call it that...business deal is the more appropriate term for it (even more formality to it than just the usual gold=digger deal--Charlene has always been happy with the terms of the relationship or she would never have been there in the first place...I am so glad we have the photo of her checking out tabloids at the airport of Albert with another woman on a boat. Obviously Albert STILL seems to have a big attraction for creepy women without any kind of conscience... so much so, that he actually married one and made her the Princess of Monaco! But, the only difference between Charlene and these other women is that she saw that she was in a much better position to leverage or scheme or blackmail Albert for a much better opportunity for herself, when Albert was stupid enough to enter into a business deal with someone like Charlene in the first place, and much worse when he was dumb enough to let her root herself her in Monaco! (now her family )Trust me, Charlene wasn't that far away on many occasions of pulling the same stunt that these other women have, but she was holding out for more--a title and a tiara, and she was determined to do whatever it took to make that happen. We've been reading her posts for years about her plan and determination. What did that reporter say about her scheming "it worked" The idea that this women tried to escape Monaco is so ludicrous, right, the girl who is stupid enough to say the moment she met Albert "She knew she was home" This girl cannot hide what a huge gold-digger she is! t is just a matter of who wants to champion her for it! She is too stupid and arrogant to even try to hide it, because she would rather believe people are jealous of all her self congratulatory and self aggrandizing of herself wherever and whenever she can! I honestly believe this girl must be mentally retarded, and Albert too if he is dumb enough to marry a women like her! The deal is and has always been that this would be an open marriage, as it has always been an open relationship! So there is no reason for Charlene to ever be upset that Albert had affairs it has always been the deal she struck with him a long time ago when she took a big chunk of cash every month for years for her services and her little sweetheart deal of her "privileged lifestyle." Can anyone imagine Kate doing "just one" of the kind of things that Charlene has done or saying "just one" of the kind of remarks that Charlene has made. I am sure she was quite happy for Albert (20 years older than her) to amuse himself elsewhere as long as she got that princess title she has wanted ...and if it is true that she was upset about anything at all before her wedding, it is only that she didn't want the news to steal her thunder for her own big day , whether these are rumors or just people trying to get back at Albert at an opportune moment. I don't really know? But these allegations are exactly what I have been talking about all this time and exactly what I predicted would happen with regard to the idea that Albert or his team were/are stupid enough to actually think Albert could get away with an open marriage....I am surprised myself though at just how fast that it started happening...no one wasted anytime! I did always say the minute he put that ring on Charlene's finger--he had screwed himself and Monaco, and that everyone could count on Charlene playing the victim card and how Albert would be caught holding the bag. Already that has come true! I also said Albert would soon regret getting rid of all the trash on Charlene, because he would need it when she tried to turn the tables on him! Like CM said all this girl had to do is step to the right or step to the left and be out of Monaco? Plus her parents are there? This girl is an adult woman and they are still claiming she is not capable of being responsibility for herself...always a victim of someone else....just like these ridiculous stories in the press . If Charlene tried to make a scene it was only a play for dramatics and to further her own victim ploy for public sympathy and leverage Albert for bigger blackmail, because you could not pry this girl from that rock or getting that Title that she has always believed she was owed! And that goes for her family too! I don't doubt Albert has girlfriends, neither would Charlene...I just can't believe he could be stupid enough to get someone else pregnant AGAIN, but with the kind of trash women that he seems to like so much, he should know by now it is a given if he gives any of them a glimmer of a chance--now as a married man the opportunity for these women to blackmail him is so much bigger! If it ends up being true that he has fathered more children, then I don't know why in the world he would have wanted to go through with the marriage , which would only makes it look so much worse, and it brings that much more attention to it? Also I can't believe he wouldn't have taken more action before now, or that these women "waited" to come forward only after he was days away from marrying Charlene? That said he has PR people that one would swear must be getting paid AN AWFUL LOT to try to destroy Albert. What other kind of conclusion could one draw?
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Post by Elektra on Jul 8, 2011 9:02:20 GMT -5
If it is true that PA has to face one or more Paternity Tests than I guess only one or the other will happen:
First scenario: The tests prove that he is not the father and Palace PR will tell the whole world how evil those accusations were. And use it to sell the fairy-tale relationship.
Second scenario: The tests prove that he is the father. Nothing will happen because the mother/mothers will be offered so much money under the condition to keep quiet. No word from Palace PR.
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Post by hibou on Jul 8, 2011 10:23:45 GMT -5
If it is true that PA has to face one or more Paternity Tests than I guess only one or the other will happen: First scenario: The tests prove that he is not the father and Palace PR will tell the whole world how evil those accusations were. And use it to sell the fairy-tale relationship. Second scenario: The tests prove that he is the father. Nothing will happen because the mother/mothers will be offered so much money under the condition to keep quiet. No word from Palace PR. First of all the fact that he has to take them at all to prove or disprove he's the father is disgraceful. At this point in his life he should NOT be in this position. We all know he's been screwing around behind Charlene's back. The fact of the matter is that his behavior is catching up with him whether the tests are positive or not. He needs to clean his act up. The point of his marriage was so that he could use it as a cover for his extra marital affairs. It just blew up in his face. Not too mention he has lost the respect of his countrymen who want Caroline to take over. JMO
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Post by countess on Jul 8, 2011 16:13:47 GMT -5
Happy BIRTHday Sarah
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Post by sarah on Jul 8, 2011 18:46:00 GMT -5
Thanks!
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Post by temporary on Jul 8, 2011 20:57:07 GMT -5
If it is true that PA has to face one or more Paternity Tests than I guess only one or the other will happen: First scenario: The tests prove that he is not the father and Palace PR will tell the whole world how evil those accusations were. And use it to sell the fairy-tale relationship. Second scenario: The tests prove that he is the father. Nothing will happen because the mother/mothers will be offered so much money under the condition to keep quiet. No word from Palace PR. First of all the fact that he has to take them at all to prove or disprove he's the father is disgraceful. At this point in his life he should NOT be in this position. We all know he's been screwing around behind Charlene's back. The fact of the matter is that his behavior is catching up with him whether the tests are positive or not. He needs to clean his act up. The point of his marriage was so that he could use it as a cover for his extra marital affairs. It just blew up in his face. Not too mention he has lost the respect of his countrymen who want Caroline to take over. JMO NOONE but PA knows whether he has been "screwing around on Charlene". In all fairness once someone publically claims that he has more illegitimate children, after having PR people make denials before and then it be true, he now HAS to take a paternity test to DISPROVE it even if he knows for example that he doesn't even know the woman making the claim. It's for this reason alone most PR people won't lie. From now on, any crazy woman who might want to squeeze him for some money can get pregnant and claim it's his, and he's going to have to now either pay up or take a paternity test. Before Alex, denials from the palace were enough- no more. I'm guessing at this point he's actually missing the days when everyone thought he was gay.... Actually though- that's the problem with the other rumors, noone believes denials from the palace anymore. Time for a new PR machine!
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Post by margarita on Jul 9, 2011 2:00:14 GMT -5
"Actually though- that's the problem with the other rumors, noone believes denials from the palace anymore. Time for a new PR machine!" ;D Temporary: that was my first thought when: 1) the Palace first denied EVRYTHING (=run away story AND paternity tests) 2)a Palace official/ high ranking Monegasque (as he/ she is refered to in the media) which was cloesely involved in the wedding preparations CONFIRMED the paternity tests [L'Express didn't change a word of what they wrote.] 3) Now the Palace says again all the rumors are not true. = result: now nobody believes a word anymore and a denial or approvement is worth NOTHING!!! Can it be that this "high ranking official" is already first staff member of the new PR-machine Looks like the Monegasques wake up - finally!!!
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Post by paca on Jul 9, 2011 5:53:58 GMT -5
If it is true that PA has to face one or more Paternity Tests than I guess only one or the other will happen: First scenario: The tests prove that he is not the father and Palace PR will tell the whole world how evil those accusations were. And use it to sell the fairy-tale relationship. Second scenario: The tests prove that he is the father. Nothing will happen because the mother/mothers will be offered so much money under the condition to keep quiet. No word from Palace PR. The mere fact that he HAS to take those tests undermines the fairytale story. And yes I think they will try to keep it quiet, but the press will not shut up about this until the children have been publicly acknowledge.
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Post by paca on Jul 9, 2011 6:00:04 GMT -5
If it is true that PA has to face one or more Paternity Tests than I guess only one or the other will happen: First scenario: The tests prove that he is not the father and Palace PR will tell the whole world how evil those accusations were. And use it to sell the fairy-tale relationship. Second scenario: The tests prove that he is the father. Nothing will happen because the mother/mothers will be offered so much money under the condition to keep quiet. No word from Palace PR. First of all the fact that he has to take them at all to prove or disprove he's the father is disgraceful. At this point in his life he should NOT be in this position. We all know he's been screwing around behind Charlene's back. The fact of the matter is that his behavior is catching up with him whether the tests are positive or not. He needs to clean his act up. The point of his marriage was so that he could use it as a cover for his extra marital affairs. It just blew up in his face. Not too mention he has lost the respect of his countrymen who want Caroline to take over. JMO behind her back? he fondled other women right in front of her nose. agree with the rest, though I have my doubts if Monegasques really want Caro to take over. She has shown that she is supporting her brother. That is not a recommendation for the job. I think their problem is that they are not sure if they could handle a democracy. They might end up with a compromise such as a constitutional monarchy...but I think they would be better off with a complete new start.
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Post by cm7007 on Jul 9, 2011 18:19:48 GMT -5
Democracy can be very tricky. They can easily end up being a free for all. It's why the United States founders made sure they made it a Democratic Republic. It has a much better chance of survival. Unfortunately, because of poor education, and the recent influx of new immigrants in the US who have been poorly educated in the true meaning of the US Constitution - (not to mention the illegals) many people in the US do not understand the difference between a free Democracy and a free Democratic Republic. And it's huge.
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Post by mrszinck on Jul 10, 2011 13:08:53 GMT -5
Looks like Nicole is again a winner. Let us hope not from…
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Post by grandduchess on Jul 10, 2011 13:15:37 GMT -5
First of all the fact that he has to take them at all to prove or disprove he's the father is disgraceful. At this point in his life he should NOT be in this position. We all know he's been screwing around behind Charlene's back. The fact of the matter is that his behavior is catching up with him whether the tests are positive or not. He needs to clean his act up. The point of his marriage was so that he could use it as a cover for his extra marital affairs. It just blew up in his face. Not too mention he has lost the respect of his countrymen who want Caroline to take over. JMO behind her back? he fondled other women right in front of her nose. agree with the rest, though I have my doubts if Monegasques really want Caro to take over. She has shown that she is supporting her brother. That is not a recommendation for the job. I think their problem is that they are not sure if they could handle a democracy. They might end up with a compromise such as a constitutional monarchy...but I think they would be better off with a complete new start. If Caro shows a minimal sign of disagreement with her brother, that would make her a "traitor" or suspected as such by the current government. I think she has abundantly shown her displeasure/disagreement with very obvious body language. I think she should be given a timeframe chance, for example, "show us what you can do in an 18-month" time; something like that.
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Post by hibou on Jul 10, 2011 23:35:53 GMT -5
First of all the fact that he has to take them at all to prove or disprove he's the father is disgraceful. At this point in his life he should NOT be in this position. We all know he's been screwing around behind Charlene's back. The fact of the matter is that his behavior is catching up with him whether the tests are positive or not. He needs to clean his act up. The point of his marriage was so that he could use it as a cover for his extra marital affairs. It just blew up in his face. Not too mention he has lost the respect of his countrymen who want Caroline to take over. JMO NOONE but PA knows whether he has been "screwing around on Charlene". In all fairness once someone publically claims that he has more illegitimate children, after having PR people make denials before and then it be true, he now HAS to take a paternity test to DISPROVE it even if he knows for example that he doesn't even know the woman making the claim. It's for this reason alone most PR people won't lie. From now on, any crazy woman who might want to squeeze him for some money can get pregnant and claim it's his, and he's going to have to now either pay up or take a paternity test. Before Alex, denials from the palace were enough- no more. I'm guessing at this point he's actually missing the days when everyone thought he was gay.... Actually though- that's the problem with the other rumors, noone believes denials from the palace anymore. Time for a new PR machine! You miss my point. Albert's past history has followed him during his 5 year "dating" of Charlene. There is also the infamous yacht girl photos. Albert has a reputation as a playboy. He did nothing to dispel this label when he took office, and was forced to acknowledge the two kids. The palace traditionally has denied any bad news. No one believes them any more and they sure didn't get on top of the Charlene held against her will story. It went viral and what did the palace do? deny it only to confirm it later. The paternity tests, what did the palace do? deny it then confirm they were taking place. At 53 his past has caught up with him. Something happened to cause this PR fiasco and it wasn't just the rumors of the tests. It's humiliating for Charlene ( and I don't even like her) and makes Albert look like a fool. The palace has really screwed themselves. It's the old "Cry wolf" fable. They've denied stuff that turned out to be true too many times. Now even if the tests are negative whose going to believe them?
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Post by countess on Jul 11, 2011 10:48:54 GMT -5
good point I"M NOT but i don't believe if they say the sun rises in the west
if it comes back negative i'm not going to believe if from flying monkey flunkies. if it's true then we won't know because i'm sure the baby mamas will willingly take a boat load of cash and easy retirement (plus if they know FatAl, his NOT being a father is not a bad thing)
all i do know is it doesn't surprise me and it shouldn't surprise conlene (unless she thought it was only young hunks she needed to worry about) i wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole, he's bound to be a carrier, i'm mean the odds are just too high he's not eat up with STDs jmo
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Post by creativemind on Jul 11, 2011 22:54:35 GMT -5
where's the happy couple ? anyone else miss their crazy asses? another fake kiss, another plastic surgery, another butt girl on a yacht, more babies ...give me something!!! i'm going through withdrawals ... after a great day of intellectual stimulation ... i need the royal version of the kardashians ... PLEASE ... for sure you have some staged bull shitty thing to do ... SHOW YOURSELF FAT AL AND CHARLENE!!!!!!
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Post by suite583 on Jul 12, 2011 9:07:24 GMT -5
where's the happy couple ? anyone else miss their crazy asses? another fake kiss, another plastic surgery, another butt girl on a yacht, more babies ...give me something!!! i'm going through withdrawals ... after a great day of intellectual stimulation ... i need the royal version of the kardashians ... PLEASE ... for sure you have some staged bull shitty thing to do ... SHOW YOURSELF FAT AL AND CHARLENE!!!!!! Yes they should show themselves on the balcony weaving on the occasion of the 6th anniversary of his coronation with the two last children by acknowledging them to the public and JUST DO TODAY.
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Post by creativemind on Jul 12, 2011 9:40:18 GMT -5
where's the happy couple ? anyone else miss their crazy asses? another fake kiss, another plastic surgery, another butt girl on a yacht, more babies ...give me something!!! i'm going through withdrawals ... after a great day of intellectual stimulation ... i need the royal version of the kardashians ... PLEASE ... for sure you have some staged bull shitty thing to do ... SHOW YOURSELF FAT AL AND CHARLENE!!!!!! Yes they should show themselves on the balcony weaving on the occasion of the 6th anniversary of his coronation with the two last children by acknowledging them to the public and JUST DO TODAY. hehehe! ;D
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Post by suite583 on Jul 12, 2011 10:31:17 GMT -5
Yes they should show themselves on the balcony weaving on the occasion of the 6th anniversary of his coronation with the two last children by acknowledging them to the public and JUST DO TODAY. hehehe! ;D You are very welcome
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Post by countess on Jul 12, 2011 12:46:41 GMT -5
what are the bets?
trashlene is having more surgery OR she's having in vitro in france OR she's locked in dungeon
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