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Post by MyAdia on Jul 8, 2011 8:10:53 GMT -5
When will people realize what we have been saying all along - that Charlene Wittstock - now Princess of Monaco - is a lying gold digging con artist? Many of us here who followed this saga since February 2006 know this to be the case and yet we were demonized and harassed over the Internet for saying so. This South African reporter, Debbie Reynolds, reveals how Charlene contacted her early in 2006 to discuss her media strategy - it seems that the two met at the New Years 2006 party where Charlene received a call to come and meet Albert there. Debbie notes, "It was evident even then that she saw a future with Prince Albert." Of course, Charlene told Debbie that she was just so bothered with all the attention - yeah right Charlene, but Sucker Albert bought it and that's all that matters. Questions for Royal Opinioners1. Why do you think that Debbie is NOW mentioning this meeting that she had with Charlene? 2. Do you think Debbie is being a friend by heaping all this praise on her or is she delicately trying to reveal a little bit of Charlene that does not cast her as the innocent victim the media wants her to believe. 3. What do yo think of Debbie's revelation that she didn't hear again from Charlene? 4. Do you think there are any hidden agendas in Debbie's statement that "What we discussed was off the record and still is, but through it all her overriding concern was that she did the right thing."5. Any bets on whether Princess Conlene will now give Debbie a call now? ;D 6.Do you think that there are more "Debbies" of the world that Conlene had spoken with over the last 1 years in helping her with her strategy in becoming what we know was to be Princess Conlene of Monaco - but without the ridicule of the world?
Princess of poise, heart and passionsby Debbie Reynolds of The MecuryJuly 8 2011
The last time I spoke to Princess Charlene of Monaco (née Wittstock), she was sitting at my dining room table making a fuss of my dogs and agonising over how to deal with the media.
Her relationship with Prince Albert of Monaco had recently made headlines at home and abroad. The media attention was overwhelming even for a South African Olympic swimmer who attracted attention as much for her athletic prowess as her natural beauty.
It was early 2006. I had met the statuesque blonde informally a few months before through mutual friends. My first impressions were of a gorgeous, but self-conscious woman uncomfortable with being in the limelight.
There was no way you could ignore the statuesque blonde who walked into the party. She was quiet and reticent, some would say snobbish. But given half a chance, she turned on the charm. Unwittingly I wanted to be her best friend.
My cynical husband danced with her oblivious that he might be making a right royal ass of himself.
To this day he cherishes the pictures. Not because she is Princess Charlene of Monaco, but because she was a South African sports star unaffected enough to enjoy a moment of fun with a friendly stranger.
I treated initial reports of her growing relationship with Prince Albert with a seasoned journalist’s scepticism.
But then came the call for Charlene to meet the billionaire monarch in Cape Town where they celebrated New Year in 2006. Soon she was appearing at official functions with the prince and the media frenzy began. Even at home in Durban she was pursued by paparazzi and journalists, all jostling for the inside track on her relationship with one of the world’s most eligible bachelors.
The phone call from Charlene came out of the blue. Did I have time for an informal chat about media protocol? Could we meet at my house away from prying eyes?
What we discussed was off the record and still is, but through it all her overriding concern was that she did the right thing.
It was evident even then that she saw a future with Prince Albert. Without having to sacrifice her fun-loving personality, she also did not want to be exploited. More than anything she did not want to disappoint the Grimaldi family and their beloved Monaco.
In previous interviews about the impending wedding, Charlene said she had “spent the last five years learning the protocol, habits and customs of Monaco”.
“I am now truly ready,” she said.
Having endured intense media scrutiny and the sometimes less than encouraging attitude of citizens of Monaco who balked at her wicked sense of humour and directness, she has had to pack away the exuberant tomboy in favour of the regal princess.
Tracksuits, flip-flops and bargain buys have been replaced with designer gowns, diamonds and heels. And they all fit like a glove.
But, according to those close to her, beneath the perceived icy exterior is the same caring, lovable, endearing and tenacious woman who began her life in the limelight as an Olympic South African swimmer and a champion for the underprivileged.
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Post by emmeline on Jul 8, 2011 11:17:22 GMT -5
Oh MyaDia, how can you think bad of the marvelous Charlene? Here, take a look at a sugar comment to see how marvelous she is:
"There's much more to her than having the wardrobe and the body to show it off well. She is an accomplished Olympian athlete, which demonstrates that she's a hard worker and committed to what she believes in. Additionally, there have been multiple reports from people who have met her who said she's kind, friendly and down-to-earth. She has no skeletons in her closet and has brought no shame to Monaco. She's already comitted her support to a number of charitable causes, something the is evidently quite passionate about. PA is a highly intellectual person, and he has clearly identified all the qualities he seeks in a Princess for Monaco. She's far from perfect, agreed, but the least we can do is support her in all the challenges she's up against -- and hope for the best. 'Best' being a happy marriage, filled with love, respect and alas, children."
Now, seriously, in my opinion:
there are lots of debbies out there and they will show up one by one, because they will want to unmasked the cons Charlene has been made since 2006. We'll just have to wait and see.
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Post by MyAdia on Jul 8, 2011 13:21:54 GMT -5
Emmeline, did you read the article that I posted about Charlene's Benoni cousin Nadine Wittstock (see this post) - sounds like a Ndine that you may have run into on a sugar loonie board? Many of the sugar loonies are Charlene's relatives, friends and flunkeis and they ALL sing the same tune about how accomplished Charlene is because 11 years ago (that's over a decade ago you morons) Charlene COMPETED (didn't win) in the Olympics. Have you noticed, that's the ONLY accomplishment that they can name. Now, Conlene does have a few flunkie that have more than three brain cells (a few more) that use another method of shutting down critics - they infiltrate message boards , cozy up to admins, mods and queen bee posters and then use them to divide and conquer resulting in board shutting down or more informative posters leaving. They all do this because Conlene learn early on that the media was going to help her in becoming Princess of Monaco - which it did. The media created this myth that Charlene is the "New Grace."The Village Idiot of Monaco - Albert- did something that he always said that he would never do - allow the media to tell him who and when to marry. |
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Post by duchesscornflower on Jul 8, 2011 17:48:08 GMT -5
The plan for Charlene to be part of Alberts life most likely did start many years ago. When they began to date, travel advertisements of a drawing of a sexy blonde woman appeared in magazines. At the time I was struck by the resemblance of this drawing to Charlene, AND Grace. I'll look for the picture and post it later, but even then I just got the feeling that Albert had picked Charlene. I don't recall any of his other girlffriends appearing in ads for Monaco..
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Post by smt on Jul 8, 2011 18:16:16 GMT -5
I still don't get what he ever saw in her that he couldn't have found in someone else. After all there are other athletic types ... other statuesque types ... other blondes ... god knows, there are smarter and more cultured. As for sex ... honey, for that much money and the promise of lifestyle most woman would do pretty much anything he requested (or required). Was the attraction that he thought she was dumb and never bolt? Remember, that's the same mistake made in the Charles-Diana saga. I give up trying to figure out these two idiots!
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Post by hibou on Jul 8, 2011 19:34:10 GMT -5
I still don't get what he ever saw in her that he couldn't have found in someone else. After all there are other athletic types ... other statuesque types ... other blondes ... god knows, there are smarter and more cultured. As for sex ... honey, for that much money and the promise of lifestyle most woman would do pretty much anything he requested (or required). Was the attraction that he thought she was dumb and never bolt? Remember, that's the same mistake made in the Charles-Diana saga. I give up trying to figure out these two idiots! If I recall from the early blue forum days, there were not many women that would put up with his behavior. Calls at the last minute to go out and expecting them to drop what ever they were doing. Travel with him meeting him where ever with no commitment, and his seeing other women on the side. The only one I heard about to tell him off was Alicia Warlick. She did not tolerate his "bad boy" friends. She did not like the way she was treated by them and eventually by Albert. So what did Charlene have that none of these other women had -- the willingness to be at his beck and call for 5 years. To do whatever he wanted and to meet him in what ever part of the world he wanted. She moved to Monaco to be at his beck and call and knew full well he was seeing others. What did she have that the other didn't? She was willing to take the stipend and willing to do the surgeries and whatever else it took to get the ink on the page. She has won the gold that she never won as an athlete, all because she waited it out. Now some on the sugar boards say she's no different than Kate, but I beg to differ. Kate never left her family. Kate has a college degree, Kate NEVER talked to the press. Even now she has given only one interview and that was with William at the time of her engagement. I admit she did not hold down a steady job other than the one her parents gave her. She did not ever receive a stipend. She was his girlfriend. I could go on. It seems those who love Charlene dislike Kate Middleton. Kate Middleton thus far has not put a bad foot forward, but now I'm preaching to the choir. Sorry for the rant guys! |
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Post by grandduchess on Jul 8, 2011 21:31:16 GMT -5
I still don't get what he ever saw in her that he couldn't have found in someone else. After all there are other athletic types ... other statuesque types ... other blondes ... god knows, there are smarter and more cultured. As for sex ... honey, for that much money and the promise of lifestyle most woman would do pretty much anything he requested (or required). Was the attraction that he thought she was dumb and never bolt? Remember, that's the same mistake made in the Charles-Diana saga. I give up trying to figure out these two idiots! He possibly gets to feel superior with her... what he can't do with an educated, self-respecting woman. |
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Post by temporary on Jul 8, 2011 22:12:50 GMT -5
Princess of poise, heart and passionsby Debbie Reynolds of The MecuryJuly 8 2011
The last time I spoke to Princess Charlene of Monaco (née Wittstock), she was sitting at my dining room table making a fuss of my dogs and agonising over how to deal with the media.
She needs someone to tell her how to "deal with the media". It's SIMPLE, when the media is interested in you because of the man you are with- YOU KEEP YOUR MOUTH *SHUT*..... PLEASE... |
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Post by mariebeth on Jul 9, 2011 9:44:29 GMT -5
I still don't get what he ever saw in her that he couldn't have found in someone else. After all there are other athletic types ... other statuesque types ... other blondes ... god knows, there are smarter and more cultured. As for sex ... honey, for that much money and the promise of lifestyle most woman would do pretty much anything he requested (or required). Was the attraction that he thought she was dumb and never bolt? Remember, that's the same mistake made in the Charles-Diana saga. I give up trying to figure out these two idiots! If I recall from the early blue forum days, there were not many women that would put up with his behavior. Calls at the last minute to go out and expecting them to drop what ever they were doing. Travel with him meeting him where ever with no commitment, and his seeing other women on the side. The only one I heard about to tell him off was Alicia Warlick. She did not tolerate his "bad boy" friends. She did not like the way she was treated by them and eventually by Albert. So what did Charlene have that none of these other women had -- the willingness to be at his beck and call for 5 years. To do whatever he wanted and to meet him in what ever part of the world he wanted. She moved to Monaco to be at his beck and call and knew full well he was seeing others. What did she have that the other didn't? She was willing to take the stipend and willing to do the surgeries and whatever else it took to get the ink on the page. She has won the gold that she never won as an athlete, all because she waited it out. Now some on the sugar boards say she's no different than Kate, but I beg to differ. Kate never left her family. Kate has a college degree, Kate NEVER talked to the press. Even now she has given only one interview and that was with William at the time of her engagement. I admit she did not hold down a steady job other than the one her parents gave her. She did not ever receive a stipend. She was his girlfriend. I could go on. It seems those who love Charlene dislike Kate Middleton. Kate Middleton thus far has not put a bad foot forward, but now I'm preaching to the choir. Sorry for the rant guys! I never understood what was so wrong about working for your parents. Working in the family business |
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Post by paca on Jul 9, 2011 11:26:26 GMT -5
there is nothing wrong with it if you really work....But since it was the parents footing the bills and not somebody else, I think it is no ones business really how the Middletons spend their money. They worked hard for it and wanted their children to benefit from it. They are a typical middleclass family with middleclass values. CW on the contrary is working class and unfortunately not of the proud working class who keep a spotless house and do the best they can to insure that their children will have a better life.
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Post by duchesscornflower on Jul 9, 2011 23:15:54 GMT -5
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Post by creativemind on Jul 10, 2011 0:40:40 GMT -5
i'm sure this has been said since the new dna revelations came up but i think probably after he found out he had more babies in the picture, he went the diversion route AGAIN [lest we forget when charlene came into the picture] and took the next step, err i mean his advisors took his next step and these two were set to marry for the heir. and to deflect attention. jmo
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Post by donna on Jul 14, 2011 4:16:07 GMT -5
We already knew about Debbie Reynolds back in summer 2006. Someone said that Conlene appeared in an interview with her pr person. She is just coming out now to claim her share of the success.
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Post by hibou on Jul 14, 2011 7:18:38 GMT -5
We already knew about Debbie Reynolds back in summer 2006. Someone said that Conlene appeared in an interview with her pr person. She is just coming out now to claim her share of the success. I remember now! It was the Paris Match interview and Charlene was at a restaurant with her then best friend (wonder what happened to her?) and her new PR person. Does any one have a copy of that interview? |
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Post by MyAdia on Jul 14, 2011 8:32:32 GMT -5
We already knew about Debbie Reynolds back in summer 2006. Someone said that Conlene appeared in an interview with her pr person. She is just coming out now to claim her share of the success. I remember now! It was the Paris Match interview and Charlene was at a restaurant with her then best friend (wonder what happened to her?) and her new PR person. Does any one have a copy of that interview? This reporter is NOT the same woman that Charlene took with her to her Paris Match interview conducted in Durban in February 2006. That woman was Dawn East and she was seen with Charlene on several occasions later in Monaco and at the Armani Fashion show. This reporter Debbie Reynolds stated that she has not heard from Charlene since Charlene met with her. Debbie's article describes a very determined and scheming Charlene who decided that she had a future with Albert and wanted advice to handle the media. In other words, Conlene wanted to know how to get the ,media to work with her to become Her Serene Highness Princess Charlene of Monaco - which is what she did. The early interviews thread show how she did it - codding up with the media. Hibou, I have a thread with some of Charlene's old interview and that particular Paris March interview is posted there - look at the summary of the opening post: Charlene a Victim? Decide From Her Old Interviews |
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Post by hibou on Jul 14, 2011 8:34:34 GMT -5
I remember now! It was the Paris Match interview and Charlene was at a restaurant with her then best friend (wonder what happened to her?) and her new PR person. Does any one have a copy of that interview? This reporter is NOT the same woman that Charlene took with her to her Paris Match interview conducted in Durban in February 2006. That woman was Dawn East and she was seen with Charlene on several occasions later in Monaco and at the Armani Fashion show. This reporter Debbie Reynolds stated that she has not heard from Charlene since Charlene met with her. Debbie's article describes a very determined and scheming Charlene who decided that she had a future with Albert and wanted advice to handle the media. In other words, Conlene wanted to know how to get the ,media to work with her to become Her Serene Highness Princess Charlene of Monaco - which is what she did. The early interviews thread show how she did it - codding up with the media. Hibou, I have a thread with some of Charlene's old interview and that particular Paris March interview is posted there - look at the summary of the opening post: Charlene a Victim? Decide From Her Old InterviewsThanks MyAdia! Wonder what happened to both of these women in Charlene's life? |
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Post by MyAdia on Jul 14, 2011 8:47:49 GMT -5
Thanks MyAdia! Wonder what happened to both of these women in Charlene's life? The two women are Dawn East and Leanne Bouman - they are no longer need - so probably discorded - just like Debbie. Trust me, Debbie wrote that article to remind the con artist that some people KNOW how she got what she has now and she shouldn't forget the people that helped her with her con. But, Conlene is too arrogant and narcissistic to realize this. I cannot wait until the press actually knocks Charlene down from the pedestal that they BUILT and then PERCHED her on. When people realize that there is nothing to gain from sucking up to her - more people will start telling the truth about Charlene and all her lies. Here is a photo of Debbie Reynolds who writes for The Mercury (South Africa)  |
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Post by donna on Jul 14, 2011 16:50:07 GMT -5
Thanks MyAdia! Wonder what happened to both of these women in Charlene's life? The two women are Dawn East and Leanne Bouman - they are no longer need - so probably discorded - just like Debbie. Trust me, Debbie wrote that article to remind the con artist that some people KNOW how she got what she has now and she shouldn't forget the people that helped her with her con. But, Conlene is too arrogant and narcissistic to realize this. I cannot wait until the press actually knocks Charlene down from the pedestal that they BUILT and then PERCHED her on. When people realize that there is nothing to gain from sucking up to her - more people will start telling the truth about Charlene and all her lies. Here is a photo of Debbie Reynolds who writes for The Mercury (South Africa) MyAdia, your memory is superb. Where would we be without you? |
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