Charlene is no VICTIM!

[creativemind]

At least 5 + years worth of articles, interviews with CW and photos -- of which are being added to the board regularly -- prove time and time again, she is NO VICTIM, following her marriage to Prince Albert. Her lot in life now is of HER CHOOSING and CALCULATIONS!

No matter how much one may think "poor Charlene" as the press reports on her and PA's wedding behavior and reaction to one another on their "honeymoon" in South Africa and events to come, the FACTS remain she has time and time again allowed for his behavior.

This includes but is not limited to:

PA being photographed with other women during their courtship, including the infamous Charlene leaving the airport a few years ago, walking by tabloid covers with photos of Albert on the cover with his hands on a girl's butt on a yacht

For several years she has lived in Monaco, with what we have all been able to gather, without working a job to pay her way. Reports say earning 40 thousand euros a month living in an apartment provided by PA

She has enjoyed a jet set lifestyle with all the perks, including a fashion designer inspired wardrobe and flying everywhere with PA to exotic locations

Has been given French tutors but has not in all her years of living in Monaco learned the language -- and if she did may not feel so isolated as she has indicated in interviews

Has done numerous photo spreads and interviews, including right up to the day of her wedding, revealing how calm, cool, collected, and happy she was and that all her detractors are wrong

Flew home to South Africa freely over the years to visit family to do "photo ops" or staged charity events.


IS THIS THE LIFE OF A VICTIM?
DOES SHE DESERVE SYMPATHY?

[creativemind]

hi myadia please, please move thread if you like but honestly i was feeling her "victim" portrayal deserves its own thread. it's out of control now and not just with sugar loonies.

[countess]

the sugah loonies are at least turning on FatAl, that's a start

JMO but being a victim puts her in a much weaker position, it invites the sharks to the bloody water (which isn't a bad thing)

[creativemind]

countess -- true regarding albert! but i just don't think she deserves "sympathy" like she seems to be getting .. maybe that's a better word -- sympathy???

[Elektra]

There is no such thing as a free lunch!
Maybe the sugar posters have sympathy for her but even in those yellow press magazins where they pretend to feel sorry for her one can read between the lines: "It is a contract marriage and that's what you have put up with when you want to wear Armani clothes without paying for them yourselves."

I would feel sorry for her if she proves to be intellectually challenged in such a way that she cannot tell the difference between fairy tale and reality.

[MyAdia]

Jul 8, 2011 14:24:47 GMT -5 creativemind said:

hi myadia please, please move thread if you like but honestly i was feeling her "victim" portrayal deserves its own thread. it's out of control now and not just with sugar loonies.

It's fine. I redid her old interviews title to include the subject of Charlene not being a victim. I will start a new category on Royal Opinion for articles - and the first will be an article that I am working on about Charlene not being a victim. I find this victimization of Charlene rather repulsive. Did you read the article from a South African reporter (in this new thread:Charlene PLANNED media strategy in early 2006) - this article shows what we've been saying and SEEING all along about Charlene.

[creativemind]

saw that. it's what inspired this thread for me, as well as reading the comments from posters on the abc story on the abc website. obviously they may not be as well versed [or maybe a sugar looney] as we are on her behavior but i firmly believe in most all [well, except cases of violent crime, death by natual causes etc] it's done unto you as you believe. CW FULLY invested herself and is right where she's wanted to be!

[hibou]

Jul 8, 2011 15:17:08 GMT -5 creativemind said:

saw that. it's what inspired this thread for me, as well as reading the comments from posters on the abc story on the abc website. obviously they may not be as well versed [or maybe a sugar looney] as we are on her behavior but i firmly believe in most all [well, except cases of violent crime, death by natual causes etc] it's done unto you as you believe. CW FULLY invested herself and is right where she's wanted to be!

In this day and age, in Western cultures, it's really unlikely that some one is forced into a marriage. This girl "worked hard" for a decade to become HSH and grab the tiara. The media need to wake up and smell the coffee. She's playing everyone (except us) as fools.

Eringer on his regular blog has posted more articles. Worth a read.

[countess]

IMO there's a big difference between sympathy (a good compassionate emotion) and PITY (a demeaning, judgemental emotion)

i'll accept your sympathy but stuff your PITY and i think most of the sentiment (except for the sugahs high on koolaid) is pity for the silly concubine, she made her bed and now has to lie in it with the world openly judging her (clapclapclap the chickens will come home to roost and we'll be there to laugh all over the place and say I TOLD YA SO)

it doesn't take an insider to know her life is not how she expected it to be, i think it would be awful for people to lauging at me and the open ridicule NOPE it's not going to be like she thought at ALL....but victim i just don't see that flying very far except on the sugah boards, i know the US media isn't taking them seriously, i haven't seen one good story, they've all seemed good on the surface but then they throw in the dna test, his children not being at his wedding and her plastic surgery and it ends up MEOW

[creativemind]

you go countess!!!! LOL you're on fire!!!

[emmeline]

Ok, this is serious:
Charlene is becoming a little popular thanks to her "intent of escape" from Monaco, and her "sincere tears" from the wedding.
Now, the pics of her with Tutu and the kids, people believe she is doing a great work and it's outshinning other princesses! OH MY GOD, IS PEOPLE THAT STUPID?

How can this bitch convince anyone with that arrogante plastic fake face that she cares about those children she just visit?
Why supporting Princess Charlene now? Just because she dropped some fake tears in St Devte? Just because she tried (supposedly) to escape and failed? This is huge!

You'll see that in some boards it's been created "The Princess Charlene Support Thread" just because she is a poor baby being abused by abusive old Al. Incredible. Now she is the victim.
Don't people realize that it was all planned by her? That if she really wante to leave, she would have done it? Who is she fooling?

You know, i think maybe this people (that i'm f*cking sure they read this forum, and a fuckign sure some flying flunkie monkey is reading right now this) doesn't support Charlene, only try to beat us. It's ridiculous.

So yeah, go support your Princess Trahslene you idiots, then we'll have to say I TOLD YOU SO and it ain't gonna be pretty!

[dolcevita]

I just think that it's so wrong for people to view her as an abuse victim when she had the chance to opt out of the whole charade. It's also unfair to other women who are truly abused to just throw around the term "abuse victim" so lightly, when she was so out in the open publicly and not locked away somewhere. And now, just a unfairly, she's going to be constantly compared to Princess Diana now.

[paca]

Jul 8, 2011 20:40:37 GMT -5 dolcevita said:

I just think that it's so wrong for people to view her as an abuse victim when she had the chance to opt out of the whole charade. It's also unfair to other women who are truly abused to just throw around the term "abuse victim" so lightly, when she was so out in the open publicly and not locked away somewhere. And now, just a unfairly, she's going to be constantly compared to Princess Diana now.

absolutely agree.She is not a victim. At least not the victim of others. If anything she is the victim of her arrogance, vanity and ignorance. But many people suffer from this and are not seen as victims. CW has given women in general a bad name. What women have fought and suffered for she has destroyed in no time. She has given marriage a bad name. There are so many things she has done that she can never be seen as a victim by anyone who has been paying attention. I never saw Diana as a victim either. She had the excuse of being much younger and inexperienced at the time. But she got savvier as she went on and in the end she was quite the opposite of a victim. On the other hand you have to give her credit that she never behaved in public the way CW did, so at least in that respect there was never a reason for anyone to feel embarrassed being associated with her. Also I do not remember her being as interested in money as CW. Yes Diana wore designer clothes, that was the time when people were all for labels. And yes she wore expensive jewelry. But I don't really remember her behaving like Imelda Marcos and the jewelry belonged to the family. She did not have heaps made for herself and go rub it in the public eye. Diana was not a modest woman surely, but she was never the hey look at me and be jealous type. CW is a social climber and is behaving as such. She would only get a shrug if she had actually worked for it, but she sold herself to the highest bidder and that can not incite admiration from any decent or half decent person. Only those like her with the hope to be dealt a similar deck by fate admire her and are jealous. Others see it for what it is and see her for what she is: a sidewalk bird hitting jackpot and it is not even the pretty woman story as it lacks love.

[rachel]

This lady to me is no different from the many women out there who marry footballers and stay with them no matter how bad they are treated. They stay for the money, the fame, the security, self worth and respect mean nothing. I see a lot of sympathy for Charlene from the same people who condemn other women who do the same as her. If these paternity tests show Albert is the father of even one of those children and Charlene stands by him I firmly believe any pro-Charlene opinion will change.

[paca]

No I think those pro Chartarts will find sth good in that as well. They will say: see we told you she loves him anyways,she is staying by her man, etc. They will not see fault with her because they are just like her and admitting that chartart is doing sth wrong would be saying that sth is wrong with them; she is living what they can not live but think could live if just being given the chance. Everything I have heard her defenders state in her favour has been very telling about who they are. Obviously that goes the other way around too, but we opinors still come off better

[cstone]

Hey just think if the sugars and charlene read this forum we might want to talk less and draw pictures-then they can understand what we grown ups are talking about

[mrplowfan]

This girl is getting exactly what she asked for. She knew he had two kids. She excluded them from the wedding. She's been talking to the press - they admitted she was calling their cell phones. She's been on online forums (with her family and friends) and got one to start a section on her facebook "Princess of Fashion" - she couldn't guess that Kate Middleton would get that title before her. She's 33 years old. She could have walked outside that palace and called that same press person she's been calling all along and never turned back. She has bragged about wanting the tiara and trashed her sisters in law, their children and even her mother-in-law online constantly to get here. She's no saint. Karma is a horrible thing but you get it back one way or another.

She's planted this garden and now she's going to eat the crow that have gathered. She's no victim. She's just good at playing with the media and has some help from family and friends. They've worked HARD on gathering bloggers and forum members to their side. This will all be exposed.

[cm7007]

Jul 9, 2011 17:53:19 GMT -5 mrplowfan said:

This girl is getting exactly what she asked for. She knew he had two kids. She excluded them from the wedding. She's been talking to the press - they admitted she was calling their cell phones. She's been on online forums (with her family and friends) and got one to start a section on her facebook "Princess of Fashion" - she couldn't guess that Kate Middleton would get that title before her. She's 33 years old. She could have walked outside that palace and called that same press person she's been calling all along and never turned back. She has bragged about wanting the tiara and trashed her sisters in law, their children and even her mother-in-law online constantly to get here. She's no saint. Karma is a horrible thing but you get it back one way or another.

She's planted this garden and now she's going to eat the crow that have gathered. She's no victim. She's just good at playing with the media and has some help from family and friends. They've worked HARD on gathering bloggers and forum members to their side. This will all be exposed.

The REALLY, REALLY sad thing is that these pathetic people really believe that what they've been doing is HARD WORK!!! It's mind boggling - but it's true! They have no idea what hard work is!

[refia]

I saw now a report at German TV: "Charlene - calculating Ice-Queen or victim?"
They tend to calculating Ice-Queen ;D

There is this one interview with Jo-Ann Strauss.
Charlene gave her instructions how to record the interview and Jo-Ann asked if Charlene is media experienced (because of the instructions, as if she is a pro) since she appeared the first time in public (eveything in Afrikaans). Charlene was pissed off and rolled her eyes and replied that the cameras are still on (means her diva affectations will be recorded) and this could be translated. Oh, oh..


I hope they release the video on their homepage

rtl-now.rtl.de/exclusiv.php

[MyAdia]

Jul 10, 2011 10:53:42 GMT -5 refia said:

I saw now a report at German TV: "Charlene - calculating Ice-Queen or victim?"
They tend to calculating Ice-Queen ;D

There is this one interview with Jo-Ann Strauss.
Charlene gave her instructions how to record the interview and Jo-Ann asked if Charlene is media experienced (because of the instructions, as if she is a pro) since she appeared the first time in public (eveything in Afrikaans). Charlene was pissed off and rolled her eyes and replied that the cameras are still on (means her diva affectations will be recorded) and this could be translated. Oh, oh..


I hope they release the video on their homepage

rtl-now.rtl.de/exclusiv.php

Thanks Refia! Yes, it's happening - this is the beginning people! Trust me, there are lots of information out like this that shows Charlene as the real scheming bitch she really Charlene. Jo-ann interviewed Charlene during the Grand Prix weekend, why is this information JUST coming out? Methinks Albert's peeps are starting to fight back and show people that Charlene is NOT he innocent victim that everyone is portraying her as.

Actually, I think the South African reporter Debbie Reynolds revelation (see Charlene PLANNED media strategy in early 2006)how Charlene fist contacted her in early 2006 to talk media strategy was the first attempt to show Charlene as a woman who wanted Albert since the beginning - and saw herself as the Princess of Monaco - and planned her every single media strategy.