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Post by margarita on Dec 30, 2021 7:49:28 GMT -5
well, apparently he has realized that it is about time to bring Monaco into the 21st century and actively promote female causes. It would be nice if he would change the succession law in that respect too. The swedes did that when Victoria was 4 I believe. Until then it was Carl Philip. That was in the late 70s, so how about bringing MC to where Sweden was already in the 80s. If she doesn't want the job, she could still resign in favour of her brother. But at least she would get that education and formation for the job. That would be good! Do we know who of the twins wad born first? Anyway it would be great to give Gabriella a chance. Why not? Only because she is a girl? When I see Gabriella I see Alberts genes. When I look at Jaques - I can't help π¬ sorry - I see Charlene. Especially the eyes and the way he looks. Lets hope it is only physical and give God he has not inherited her (lack of) intelligence and her character π.
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Post by agentf on Dec 30, 2021 9:33:19 GMT -5
Interesting bios, all of them. It's nice to see that the ladies bring substance, and are not merely tokens of equality. ππΌ
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Post by paca on Dec 30, 2021 11:09:57 GMT -5
well, apparently he has realized that it is about time to bring Monaco into the 21st century and actively promote female causes. It would be nice if he would change the succession law in that respect too. The swedes did that when Victoria was 4 I believe. Until then it was Carl Philip. That was in the late 70s, so how about bringing MC to where Sweden was already in the 80s. If she doesn't want the job, she could still resign in favour of her brother. But at least she would get that education and formation for the job. That would be good! Do we know who of the twins wad born first? Anyway it would be great to give Gabriella a chance. Why not? Only because she is a girl? When I see Gabriella I see Alberts genes. When I look at Jaques - I can't help π¬ sorry - I see Charlene. Especially the eyes and the way he looks. Lets hope it is only physical and give God he has not inherited her (lack of) intelligence and her character π. gabriella is the first born. there is no chance that Jacques will resemble Charlene for the mere fact that he is growing up in an environment which expects education and will put everything in place for him to receive the education he will need. The question is if he will be able to handle the pressure that is put on him. Albert knows from his own experience and issues what that can entail. But he also knows that he can get help for his children and advice how to help his children handle it. Both Caro and Steph have found ways for their own children to handle it, so they can add to that. But I think that modernizing the succession law would be helpful as well. Monegasques deserve the best person in place and maybe a modern succession law should reflect that. There is a crown council which is chosen by the prince. Maybe they should be given more authority or maybe other models could be studied. I think some Canadian tribes have the nobel women select one of their sons best suited to rule the tribe. Drop the son and make it one of the family members and you already have an advancement. In MC you only have a limited pool of people involved in politics, so a true democracy and abandonning of the role of the prince is a bit of utpia, unless MC will be added to France. But a greater involvement of the Monegasques in their own affairs is not. A reform of the crown council and the succession law, might be a good opportunity to bring MC forward. I think that all family members will get the best education money can buy and the best that is suited to them. Also they will be prepared on how to behave and how things are done. You can learn it, as Kate demonstrates daily, but CW and Meghan have shown that you can fail tremendously. So having a pool of family members to choose from is not a bad idea. Not all of them may want the role or are suited to it. So IMO it would be a good thing for the prince to have a list of suitable successors which can and should be frequently reviewed and from which, as the event occurs, the crown council can choose. The crown council should reflect to at least 50% the wish of the Monegasques. Although in the olden days kings were elected, so maybe sth to think about as well. Maybe the crown council can present 2 candidates and the Monegasques get the final vote. Just some thoughts on how to make it more fair and not a lottery of birth and gender. Given that Albert is already at a grandfather age, it is clear that his successor will be very young and most likely be in charge for 50 years. So pretty much like Rainier. And you want the best suited on the throne...
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Post by donna on Dec 30, 2021 12:43:18 GMT -5
well, apparently he has realized that it is about time to bring Monaco into the 21st century and actively promote female causes. It would be nice if he would change the succession law in that respect too. The swedes did that when Victoria was 4 I believe. Until then it was Carl Philip. That was in the late 70s, so how about bringing MC to where Sweden was already in the 80s. If she doesn't want the job, she could still resign in favour of her brother. But at least she would get that education and formation for the job. And she is obviously the first born, shows both courage and initiative, whereas Jack is more in the background, hiding behind his mom or dad.
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Post by paca on Dec 30, 2021 16:22:11 GMT -5
well, they say that boys are often lagging in development. Even docs say that boys can only really be considered adults at about 27, while girls mature much sooner. It doesn't apply to everyone, but hormones lead to a lot of stupid acts of the male population. To my knowledge over here you can until about that age be sentenced according to juvenal law, depending on maturity and intelligence. Whereas women can use PMS as an excuse... Anyways I think we should allow them to grow up, before passing judgement. He might just be shy and observant (which is not a bad trait), whereas she is more out going, but may lack self restraint. We only get to see a few pics. From the videos I have seen, they are full off unrestraint energy and like many other kids, a tad wilder, but their half brother was wild too and liked to queue in front of everyone else. And well, when it comes to wild, apparently Steph was the epitome of wild. And look at her now.
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Post by agentf on Dec 30, 2021 17:16:58 GMT -5
Are we talking the girl who took to the scissors too? I find Jacques is more like Albert, personally. He's more in the background of a rambunctious sister. I do agree paca, about Albert's age gap between his successor. Drawing from the Arab system of lateral succession, and having a nephew as caretaker monarch might have worked. In my opinion, CC's breakdown may affect the children deeper and considering she could not handle the pressure herself as an adult, I have to wonder if they may not be happier doing something else. In that view, Alexandre might be better equipped for leadership. Only time will tell. I'd like to see first a female regent role model in active not ceremonial power, before jumping in. The matriarchal Iroquois Confederacy attempted its best to lay the groundwork for modern democratic society. We are seeing how men have rewarded women's best efforts. Canadian tribes suffer the internal division caused by the superimposition of foreign structures. People just can't let a good thing be, and understand it first as well as be honest about their designs before tackling it. well, apparently he has realized that it is about time to bring Monaco into the 21st century and actively promote female causes. It would be nice if he would change the succession law in that respect too. The swedes did that when Victoria was 4 I believe. Until then it was Carl Philip. That was in the late 70s, so how about bringing MC to where Sweden was already in the 80s. If she doesn't want the job, she could still resign in favour of her brother. But at least she would get that education and formation for the job. And she is obviously the first born, shows both courage and initiative, whereas Jack is more in the background, hiding behind his mom or dad.
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Post by paca on Dec 30, 2021 18:33:51 GMT -5
I actually read the constitution of the seven nations (actually own a copy), I went to Kahnawake on several occasions and wrote a paper on indigenius affairs way back at university. I actually spent some time in the archives of a local paper to read up on their reports. The problems they were facing then were heartbreaking, especially when in contrast you would read their quite advanced thoughts on governing. I was and still am of the opinion that we can learn from each other. Regardless how small the population. Greenlanders refer to themselves as inuit - humans. If we all refered to ourselves firstly as humans, we might overcome a lot of problems. As humans of planet earth we would all have the same interests and fear of others would then refer to outer space rather than some poor people struggling in nutshells to make it to shore.
Anyways that is the reason why I pointed elsewhere for a reform. There are many ways. Not always working so well, when we are looking to the problems Jordan has just faced. I do believe though that a greater involvement of Monegasques in determining who will be ruling them would be a good step fprward, especially since we are likely talking about a 50 year reign. Maybe even more. And it is not like with QE2 that the ruler has limited say. Quite on the contrary. It is absolutism. He has all say. So who is in charge matters a great deal more than in the UK.
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Post by agentf on Dec 30, 2021 19:00:09 GMT -5
I'm not questioning your understanding of indigenous people. Context is important. Monaco is tiny, but a federal reserve of sorts. Leadership is important, to survive. Viewed that way, it makes me even more skeptical about the kids but again, time will tell. The administration's new blood is talented and educated. If the children grow up in that atmosphere, rather than backroom corruption, it can work. I think when the population is so small, I'm not sure democracy has a big enough sampling to water down special interests. Maybe I'm just a pessimist. Plus I'm getting Omicron-tested tomorrow, so my judgement could be off. π€·π»ββοΈ I actually read the constitution of the seven nations (actually own a copy), I went to Kahnawake on several occasions and wrote a paper on indigenius affairs way back at university. I actually spent some time in the archives of a local paper to read up on their reports. The problems they were facing then were heartbreaking, especially when in contrast you would read their quite advanced thoughts on governing. I was and still am of the opinion that we can learn from each other. Regardless how small the population. Greenlanders refer to themselves as inuit - humans. If we all refered to ourselves firstly as humans, we might overcome a lot of problems. As humans of planet earth we would all have the same interests and fear of others would then refer to outer space rather than some poor people struggling in nutshells to make it to shore. Anyways that is the reason why I pointed elsewhere for a reform. There are many ways. Not always working so well, when we are looking to the problems Jordan has just faced. I do believe though that a greater involvement of Monegasques in determining who will be ruling them would be a good step fprward, especially since we are likely talking about a 50 year reign. Maybe even more. And it is not like with QE2 that the ruler has limited say. Quite on the contrary. It is absolutism. He has all say. So who is in charge matters a great deal more than in the UK.
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Post by paca on Dec 31, 2021 10:53:23 GMT -5
meantime a viewer unfriendly post from Jasmin. There is a pic of all of his kids together in there, but the pace of her video is way too fast. Good thing she doesn't do anything with movies professionally. Which leads me to the question what does she actually do? all her grimaldi cousins at working age seem to have some kind of job. What is hers? www.instagram.com/reel/CYHShdZpWMV/?utm_source=ig_embed
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Post by paca on Jan 1, 2022 6:09:33 GMT -5
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Post by donna on Jan 1, 2022 9:11:24 GMT -5
so he is pro vaccination Happy New Year guys! Great to be here with you. Thanks for all the old years together.
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Post by agentf on Jan 1, 2022 14:02:19 GMT -5
I guess he's in patriarch mode. Lovely pic of the 4. Long time in the making, I suppose.
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Post by paca on Jan 1, 2022 17:46:28 GMT -5
so he is pro vaccination Happy New Year guys! Great to be here with you. Thanks for all the old years together. well, same to you and I already know that I am having a much better start into the year than some. IN MC 5 people were injured during a fire on the rock at midnight and well, 10 m from my flat someone thought it was a good idea to throw a firecracker under a car... so 5 cars exploded, I took probably the most dramatic looking pics ever and now the entire neighbourhood knows how difficult it is to extinguish a burning car. I don't think anyone was injured, but huge amount of smoke, luckily not my direction. But my neighbourhoods CO2 footprint for this year is already over the limit. Firefighters are still at it. Breaking cars open to get at the reigniting fires. So much foam around too. People were quick to alert firefighters though. When I called, which was about in the first minute, they were already aware and arriving shortly after (good thing when the station is a less then 5 minutes drive) I am just glad I don't own any of those cars. Stay safe and leave the explosives to the experts.
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Post by agentf on Jan 2, 2022 13:19:37 GMT -5
What's with car vandalism anyway? France had something like 800 cars burnt on NY's. Strange custom. so he is pro vaccination Happy New Year guys! Great to be here with you. Thanks for all the old years together. well, same to you and I already know that I am having a much better start into the year than some. IN MC 5 people were injured during a fire on the rock at midnight and well, 10 m from my flat someone thought it was a good idea to throw a firecracker under a car... so 5 cars exploded, I took probably the most dramatic looking pics ever and now the entire neighbourhood knows how difficult it is to extinguish a burning car. I don't think anyone was injured, but huge amount of smoke, luckily not my direction. But my neighbourhoods CO2 footprint for this year is already over the limit. Firefighters are still at it. Breaking cars open to get at the reigniting fires. So much foam around too. People were quick to alert firefighters though. When I called, which was about in the first minute, they were already aware and arriving shortly after (good thing when the station is a less then 5 minutes drive) I am just glad I don't own any of those cars. Stay safe and leave the explosives to the experts.
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Post by paca on Jan 2, 2022 13:42:27 GMT -5
A few years back France had major problems with car vandalism. Remember sarkos KΓ€rcher remark? In our case I think it wasN't on purpose. To make a statement, you set other cars on fire in different areas. I think it was a firecrecker gone wrong. Even if the police currently claim differently. IMO they are uselessly criminalizing youngsters playing around with explosives. A lot of teenagers do this sort of thing the day after NY. And with those crackers with a too short fuse, they have to throw them away quickly and then things like that happen. It is a good thing that no one got hurt. If people were asked to collect the ones and dispose of crackers that didn't make it, maybe it would be different. Or if they would do prevention etc. Of course they could stop the sale to private people, but with the internet probably not realistic. Kids did it in my generation, they did it when my kids were teens and they will keep on doing it. You can warn them and then hope that they heard you or that they have great guardian angels. I think it is mere luck that my kids didn't do this by accident. imo these things happen at this time of year more out of bad luck and poor judgement then actual vandalism.
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Post by paca on Jan 2, 2022 18:20:03 GMT -5
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Post by agentf on Jan 19, 2022 6:04:28 GMT -5
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Post by paca on Jan 19, 2022 14:23:43 GMT -5
and on a different point, one of his guests of honour at his foundation last year, died today in a skiing accident. RIP If you have kids and go skiing: wear a bloody helmet and ski at a speed that corresponds with your abilities and those of fellow skiiers. You can enjoy skiing responsibly just as much with the benefit of everyone returning home at night alive. Also a word of advice, drinking alcohol on the slopes is just as negligent and dangerous as drunk driving. There is a time and place for everything. Just not all at the same time. I have seen many avoidable skiing accidents in my 50 plus years on the slopes. Skiing off slopes, driking and speed exceeding the abilities of the skiier and lack of helmets where the most common causes of death on the slopes. All of them unnecessary www.monacomatin.mc/vie-locale/decede-ce-mercredi-apres-un-accident-de-ski-lacteur-gaspard-ulliel-etait-present-a-monaco-en-septembre-dernier-740558
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Post by axelle on Jan 19, 2022 17:23:41 GMT -5
This was very sad so young!
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Post by paca on Jan 19, 2022 18:41:10 GMT -5
and with a small child. I learned from an early age that skiing is a deadly sport. One of the kids, the first one I ever saw wearing a helmet (in the 70s), that I learned skiing with, died at a very young age. To this day I know the tree he hit, racing down the slopes. And alerted my own children to his fate. There were others, but being almost the same age and with my brother, myself and friends skiing without helmet and at the time possibly more reckless, this was particularly impressed on me. It has always been in the back of my mind when skiing and determined my actions on the slopes. I always made sure that I was at all times able to break and always watched fellow skiiers as most overestimate their ability to ski and to stop. Especially around kids or beginners, who are especially unpredictable with regards to which direction they may take and their speed and their mastering of it. I am just glad that ALbert is wearing a helmet these days although he is also of the non helmet generation. And he has his children wear one as well. So it looks like he is being as cautious as can and should be expected.
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