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Post by royalpauper on Mar 22, 2012 13:50:12 GMT -5
I think my biggest frustration is the question, when will the media put 2 and 2 together like we have and stack up all her lies one right after the other so people can see what BS it all is. Why can't just one of them take a few moments to look up her past interviews? It's all right there. We have no problem seeing right through her, why can't others? They can and they probably did....but they think they can make more money selling the "fairy tale" or "rugs to riches" stories. Once they can't cash on it any longer, they will turn on her full force...
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Post by MyAdia on Mar 23, 2012 8:21:44 GMT -5
I think my biggest frustration is the question, when will the media put 2 and 2 together like we have and stack up all her lies one right after the other so people can see what BS it all is. Why can't just one of them take a few moments to look up her past interviews? It's all right there. We have no problem seeing right through her, why can't others? Hibou, that was my frustration also, especially with the main culprits who promoted Charlene until Albert married her - Bunte, Paris Match, Point def Vue and Gala. What these publications all have in common is that Charlene gave them personal information - they were her mouthpiece starting with her first interview with Paris Match followed up by her family's first interview with Bunte. But have anyone noticed that these publications have stopped placing Charlene on their covers. I believed that they FINALLY realized that they promoted a con artist. Even Charlene's number one french flunkie is upset that they barely cover her - and more importantly - the flunkie revealed (the same one who revealed Charlene invited the Ladies Lunch to the palace yesterday) also revealed that the editors of Paris Match and Point de Vue DO NOT LIKE Charlene. When will the Jackass of Monaco finally realize what the people in Monaco knew from day one - he imposed a dumb-as-a-rock golddigging con artist (and her family) to his country? The French flunkie responding to a poster complaining that magazines aren't covering Charlene's every move anymore and complaining that Point de Vue didn't cover her Australia and China trip: "For once I agree with you, Viewpoint is no longer on a single activity from November to Charlene from small inserts Admittedly, the director of this newspaper does not like Charlene. Ditto for Paris Match"
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Post by paca on Mar 23, 2012 9:03:57 GMT -5
I think my biggest frustration is the question, when will the media put 2 and 2 together like we have and stack up all her lies one right after the other so people can see what BS it all is. Why can't just one of them take a few moments to look up her past interviews? It's all right there. We have no problem seeing right through her, why can't others? Hibou, that was my frustration also, especially with the main culprits who promoted Charlene until Albert married her - Bunte, Paris Match, Point def Vue and Gala. What these publications all have in common is that Charlene gave them personal information - they were her mouthpiece starting with her first interview with Paris Match followed up by her family's first interview with Bunte. But have anyone noticed that these publications have stopped placing Charlene on their covers. I believed that they FINALLY realized that they promoted a con artist. Even Charlene's number one french flunkie is upset that they barely cover her - and more importantly - the flunkie revealed (the same one who revealed Charlene invited the Ladies Lunch to the palace yesterday) also revealed that the editors of Paris Match and Point de Vue DO NOT LIKE Charlene. When will the Jackass of Monaco finally realize what the people in Monaco knew from day one - he imposed a dumb-as-a-rock golddigging con artist (and her family) to his country? The French flunkie responding to a poster complaining that magazines aren't covering Charlene's every move anymore and complaining that Point de Vue didn't cover her Australia and China trip: "For once I agree with you, Viewpoint is no longer on a single activity from November to Charlene from small inserts Admittedly, the director of this newspaper does not like Charlene. Ditto for Paris Match" the editor of PDV was in the discussion round about the runaway bride story and she explained at length why they did not believe the lovestory. STill they wrote about her, so they are definately opportunists. Still Lacoste was tere and he surely got to talk to them off screen as well. He probably received way more info about what is wrong with trashy, but apparently no one in the palace watched or listened.
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Post by countess on Mar 23, 2012 9:38:38 GMT -5
For once I agree with you, Viewpoint is no longer on a single activity from November to Charlene from small inserts Admittedly, the director of this newspaper does not like Charlene. Ditto for Paris Match"what's to LIKE? she's been described as charmless, and i think that's too fawning. a shallow, con artist, gold digging whore (JMO) with a few sugah flunkies and unethical editors taking payola cannot be made into an "fashion icon" no matter how much $$$ they throw at the mess that is trashlene
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Post by refia on Mar 23, 2012 12:47:32 GMT -5
March 18, 2012 Just found the photos on tumblr
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Post by MyAdia on Mar 23, 2012 13:10:04 GMT -5
These photos belong with the article (interview by John Elder) that I posted in the Australia thread. Here's the link to my first reaction about new revelation to the article and below is the article again.
Please read the entire article and you will understand why Charlene will continue to do what she does best - LIE and CON people - and get away with it. NO ONE CARES ENOUGH ABOUT HER to do any kind of fact check on the many lies she tells. The paradox that Monaco faces is that NO SANE person is buying the empty shallow package that they manufactured and are currently trying to sell as the cultured naturally elegant and refined Her Serene Highness Princess Charlene of Monaco, but people find charming the crass unintelligent funny wired awkward Charlene. Despite what Charlene and her flunkies think, this reporter also confirms what we have been trying to tell these fools for the longest - Charlene does not come across well in interviews. Well, her true self is exposed in these interviews.
Princess Charming
by John Elder, The Sun Herald (Sydney, Australia) March 18, 2012 Sunday
What is it really like to be in the presence of royalty? John Elder spends a weekend with Her Serene Highness Princess Charlene of Monaco.
When a bus drops a swarm of children at the front steps of the Melbourne Sports and Aquatic Centre, they are quietly sent around to the back entrance. Their chatter drops to a hush, and one little lad in outsize green-framed specs looks back nervously ... perhaps as Lot's wife did just before she turned into a pillar of salt. Standing in front of the main doors is a ferrety man with wrap-around sunglasses, a cheerless slit of a mouth and Terminator posture. He reeks of one thing: "Don't even think about it." Waiting off to the side are swimmer Sophie Edington and former Olympian Craig Jackson, a squad of diplomats, and a nuggety fellow named Lotfi Maktouf.
We're all waiting for Her Serene Highness Princess Charlene of Monaco to arrive, but the mood isn't entirely serene. I'm on the other side of the entrance, under strict instructions to keep my distance, hold my tongue and otherwise act "humbly". I will get my interview with Her Serene Highness later in the day. For the moment though, I'm not to even say, "Hello, how are you doing?" because it hasn't been scheduled. Maktouf, a businessman and royal confidant, begs me, "Don't give me a hard time today ... Earn your afternoon interview." In his eagerness for everything to go smoothly, he is generating a weird kind of anxiety.
Meanwhile, I look at the security guard's stone features and wonder if the princess herself might be similarly forbidding. Since her marriage to Prince Albert of Monaco in July last year, she's been routinely dubbed "the runaway bride" because of reports that she got cold feet in the lead-up to the wedding, and was stopped by police at the airport while attempting to "flee the country" and return to her family in South Africa.
Maktouf has told me he was having lunch with Charlene "on the prince's instructions" on the very day she was said to be hot-footing it elsewhere, but it's a banned topic for discussion with the princess. And yet it seems to have clung to her public image. It's a story from which she can make no easy escape, in part because she can come across as aloof and even charmless in television interviews, suggesting she's very much on the defensive. In one interview, following a charity swim, she looks off to the side as she talks, doesn't smile and her tone remains flat. In another, in a palace-like living room, she holds herself in a mild hunch as if physically hurt. She verges on a smile, but it could as easily be the ambivalent expression one presents to an intrusive stranger on a train.
Last December, however, a more ebullient and emotional princess was revealed when Charlene was the recipient of the Golden Heart award at the Ein Herz für Kinder (A Heart for Children) ceremony in Berlin. The award was in recognition of her long commitment to teaching disadvantaged South African children to swim. Even so, in smiling footage and photographs from the ceremony, her eyes look startled, even pained. And so one question hangs over the princess, in a media-ruled world where princesses are eaten alive: "What's she really like?"
This is what I'm thinking when a luxury Holden appears and there is Her Serene Highness on the back seat. She emerges with the beautiful and vulnerable gait of a giraffe, almost casual in a pale-pink pants suit (or is it that fashionable but tricky colour, "nude"?), with a blonde ponytail and the face of an excited schoolgirl who must remind herself to be a little solemn, as if she is in fact one of those children elected to present flowers to princesses.
She's clearly excited to see Craig Jackson, a childhood hero and coach, and Sophie Edington, a competitor from her days on the international swimming circuit and, more importantly, a friend. Edington attended the wedding in Monaco and seems to be the most relaxed person present. There is, however, a moment of formality, when various members of the party bob their heads while shaking Charlene's hand. I've been told that when I meet the princess, I need to give a little bow. This has been stressing me out; I've never bowed to anyone before. I'd been hoping to get some instruction, but this head bobbing seems insufficiently deferential.
The party then wanders through the doors and into the pool area. A group of children are standing in two lines, shyly agog. Later, when I ask Charlene if little girls treat her like a rock star, she says: "I don't know. Do they treat me like a rock star? For me ... I don't know myself any differently. I've always been surrounded by children during my swimming career. Giving them advice. I don't feel any different among children." Her Serene Highness was an Olympic swimmer, a Commonwealth Games medallist, and her visit to the aquatic centre is a nostalgic one: she took out a gold medal for backstroke in the 2002 World Cup here. In South Africa, as in Australia, sporting champions are a kind of royalty, anyway. Kids have always looked up to her.
When the children dive into the pool and perform a series of drills, Her Serene Highness stands close to the edge - not noticing or caring that the bottoms of her trousers are getting damp - her hands behind her back, chatting and at ease with her friends, but her eyes are often fixed on what the swimmers are doing. When they start kicking off the side and doing tumble turns over the lane rope, she cranes forward and seems to be making mental notes. Later she tells me, "I was learning something. I'm always looking at form and technique [for coaching] and I hadn't seen that before. I think I'll copy it."
After the demonstration, and a brisk walking tour, the princess heads to the centre's modest cafe, settles onto one of the plastic chairs and sips at a cappuccino while swapping stories with Jackson and Edington. When others are speaking, Charlene tends to rub at the cuticles of her thumbs with her fingertips - or at least she does when there's a giant journalist sitting nearby noting down her every gesture.
I have long thought how rotten it would be to have people constantly noting your every move and gesture, but here I am doing it. Is it any wonder if she freezes in the relentless glare of media curiosity? But here, in this cafe where little kids are running around with half-eaten sausage rolls in their hands, when Charlene speaks to her mates, she forgets who is watching and her hands paint wild pictures in the air.
Because she has such long, elegant arms, she takes up a lot of space with this gesticulation. Her face is equally expressive. Her eyes almost pop when she's telling a yarn; her mouth draws wide with amazement at what she's recounting. She is, in short, a live wire.
An hour later I talk to John Kelly by phone. John is Prince Albert's cousin, and Grace Kelly's nephew. Like Charlene, John Kelly was in Australia for the opening of the fabulous Grace Kelly: Style Icon exhibition at the Bendigo Art Gallery. He told me about Grace at the annual Kelly family gatherings at their beach house in Ocean City, New Jersey. "I'd be hanging around as the youngster, and Grace would be sitting at the table playing cards and gossiping and laughing and telling stories. Just having a good time with her family."
The more he talked, the more I thought about Charlene unselfconsciously hamming it up with her mates. I'd been asked by Lotfi Maktouf not to "push Charlene into a corner with comparisons between her and Princess Grace", but I couldn't help but think of the old notion that men end up marrying their mothers. The story goes that Grace was the family's light and soul. When John visited his cousin in Monaco, he recalled the family playing exuberantly "in the rec room" as happy families do. After Princess Grace died in 1982, the rec room was closed down. Prince Albert told his cousin that Prince Rainier could no longer bear to go in there. The light had gone out. So perhaps there's something restorative at play in Albert's marriage to Charlene. For as John Kelly says: "She is just too lovely and a lot of fun. A really good gal. I just know that she and Albert have a great time together. They are fun to hang out with. She makes him laugh and have fun."
He also mentions that Charlene, like Grace, is a person of great thoughtfulness and compassion. During the lead up to Charlene's wedding, John's sister Maura died. He says Charlene took the time to call and let him know she had commissioned a special rose for the palace garden in Maura's name. "It was a wonderful gesture, very touching ... that in the midst of getting ready for the wedding, she took the time to think of that and think of Albert's cousin and include us in her thoughts. I just find her to be a pretty special person."
I'd meant to go home and change into a good suit for the exclusive interview with Her Serene Highness. But the day had passed talking to Charlene's friends and family and I realised I had run out of time and would have to attend the interview in a sports coat, chinos, a blue shirt and riding boots. I looked like an old farmer who'd come to town for the royal show. As I walked up the hill to the Grand Hyatt hotel, my shirt soaked through with sweat. I'd been told so many things not to ask the Princess - even about her love of South African ethnic poetry and contemporary art - that I was freaking out. Maktouf said he'd be sitting in on the conversation "and would be interrupting, making corrections ... I will stop you from asking the wrong thing." He said one thing that was crucial for me to understand was that Charlene was under permanent scrutiny, and that every word she says is "carefully weighed". Meanwhile, I'd tried out various ways of bowing in front of a mirror - and looked like a goose.
As I walked into Charlene's suite, she turned and threw out a warm and enchanting hand. For some reason, I clicked my heels together like a German count, dropped my head in salute, and in a voice better suited to a late-night telephone call said, "Your Serene Highness, hello."
She laughed easily at the fool that I was, and continued to laugh throughout the interview. And what did we talk about in those 15 minutes? Somehow it all came back to swimming.
She told stories of "stalking" the South African Olympic swimming team when she was 12, keen to watch their every move, lying on the bottom of the pool and looking up as they trained above. When on holidays, she says, people came up and asked if she'd teach their kids to swim. While not everybody can be a champion, she believes that "when you teach a child to swim, to help them further themselves, they then have the self-esteem to go even further".
These days she loves ocean swimming. I suggested this must be more meditative than training for races. "Yes, I just love to get in and swim ... When I retired [in 2007] it was a bit difficult because I was always contemplating whether I should come back or not. But watching all the times now, it's like, 'Whoa, I'm definitely not coming back.' So now I can just swim for fun."
I asked if the discipline of swim training had helped her adjust to a public life as an ambassadorial princess where there is always the demand to be on. "We do have a demanding schedule. When we do have to time to relax with friends, that's great ... but really, I've never known anything different. That's just the way it is."
The following day, Charlene and party drove to Bendigo, where she was opening the Grace Kelly exhibition. The word of her visit was kept so quiet that, outside the official party that included the Victorian Premier Ted Baillieu and his wife, and dozens of schoolchildren waving flags, there was only a small scrum of regular folk who gathered over the hour beforehand to see what was happening. It was an almost nostalgically country setting, and a weirdly magical one in which Charlene appeared out of nowhere after the drumming pageant of Chinese dragons was done parading back and forth.
She emerged with her hair down and behind her ears. Her dress (she insisted on a local designer, in this case Johanna Johnson) featured jewel-like borders along the neckline, shoulders and waist. She paid no heed to the media gathering but stopped to pose for children with their digital cameras and phones, accepting flowers and cards and asking, "What's your name?"
Her speech was a modest affair, paying tribute to Grace Kelly as an artist and style icon, and to Princess Grace as a mother. She started out with a sweet "g'day" and then struggled with nerves momentarily. I couldn't help thinking of my question to her, as she relaxed in her hotel room the night before: did you dress up as a princess when you were a little girl?
"No. Never. I liked to dress up as Zorro."
All about Charlene Born in Zimbabwe in 1978, Charlene Lynette Wittstock is the first of three children. Her swimming-coach mum sparked her interest in the sport at a young age.
Charlene and her family relocated to South Africa when she was 11. By 15, she was a South African junior swimming champion.
At 22, Charlene was a member of the women's 4 x 100m medley South African team, which finished fifth at the 2000 Olympics.
After fracturing her ankle, Charlene retired from competitive swimming aged 29.
At 33, Princess Charlene married Prince Albert II of Monaco. While the ceremony itself was small, more than 5000 Monégasques followed the proceedings from the palace square.
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Post by MyAdia on Mar 23, 2012 13:38:11 GMT -5
John Elder's article and the above photo appeared in the Sun-Herald Sunday's paper. Here'e another article from the paper that sums up Charlene's popularity. The beginning of the article mentions Charlene, but the remaining of the article is about the bicyclist.
Bendigo clings to tradition
By RON REED of the Herald Sun (Australia) March 17, 2012 Saturday
AS EUROPEAN celebs go, Princess Charlene of Monaco and Swiss cyclist Franco Marvulli aren't exactly A-listers. But they were a big hit when their paths converged in Bendigo.
The old gold town turned out in force to see Prince Albert's better half open an exhibition about her mother-in-law Princess Grace and the next night Marvulli and his young compatriot Loic Perrizzolo won the Bendigo Madison, a bike race that has become one of a handful of bush sports events that pull people in from far beyond the boundaries of the towns that host them. ...
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Post by bellabunny on Mar 23, 2012 13:46:14 GMT -5
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Post by axelle on Mar 23, 2012 16:23:40 GMT -5
Photo shopped like mad - still looks so different from the person that came on the scene in 2006! Crazy that they can't see that!
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Post by duchess1 on Mar 24, 2012 0:39:24 GMT -5
I mentioned in an earlier post about how school children were bussed in, thanks to Duchess1's first hand accounts that she shared with us. I also mentioned how much Duchess1 seemed to admire the exhibit and the woman that was Grace and to compare it to what she had to say about Charlene. I wanted to repost her posts again here (in case someone missed them), since she is someone that attended the event and posted about it before anyone could reshape the story. Here is the first one where she tells there is no one there. I'll find her second post. Well, I am here in Bendigo for the long weekend and I have tickets for the exhibition tomorrow, and I am very excited about that. I went to to Art Gallery this afternoon and the red carpet is already in place and security guards have blocked off view street between corners, so no cars are allowed through. I went for a walk past the gallery and although they have erected barriers I counted possibly 15 people waiting there. It is now 5.30pm and I was told that the VIP event kicks off at 6pm but Charlene is expected soon after. So I am heading there in afew minutes and I will be interested to see how many people are there now and see whether I can get a glimpse of her. Also I want to see whether photographers are in full force. Anyway I will post later again this evening. Hi sandsla, I think you maybe referring to this post of mine where I write about the buses that I saw later in the afternoon... Wow duchess1 Thank you for reporting from Bendigo!!! Hi margarita, I went to the Gallery twice today and honestly at 2.30pm there were only a handful of people but plenty of security guards about. Then after 6.pm definitely more there but the strange thing was we saw 2 big buses and lots of school kids from them so I think alot of it was staged. Lots of the locals I spoke to couldn't care at all about her. In fact many didn't know who she was either. The closure of the street for most of the day was annoying and ridiculous. I couldn't see Charlene from where I stood but all those school kids and grannies got up close some how. Anyway, I went to dinner just afew blocks away and when I got back just after 7.30pm or so, she had left already. The street was bare, and only afew people eating nearby. Gosh, the whole thing was so boring and honestly absolutely NO ONE cared about her visit. Having said that though I hope the exhibition goes well for Bendigo and I look forward to seeing it tomorrow. Can't wait. I am like may others in that I have come to view the " Grace Kelly" memorabilia and Charlene doesn't register for me at all. Thanks MyAdia for putting Charlene's speech for us to see. She can hardly put two words together. Actually very painful to watch. !! I think I am over it all today but as I love coming to Bendigo I am happy on that front... Read more: royalopinions.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=opinion&action=display&thread=468&page=3#ixzz1q0dx1XI1 Just to recap if I may about the whole Bendigo Exhibition Opening and the presence of Charlene being there ....... I don't think it made an ounce of difference whether she was there or not. I was in Bendigo over 3 days beginning with the day of the Grace Kelly Exhibition opening and there was absolutely NO excitement about the fact a " Princess " was coming. In fact most people I spoke to didn't even know WHO she was, or that she was arriving that evening to formally " Open" the exhibition. I went there a couple of times that day. Firstly in the morning around lunch time and that's when the security guards were there setting up the barricades with the council workers, and view street between Rowan and Mackenzie were closed off to cars. I walked down past the gallery and I asked what time Charlene was expected and they wouldn't tell me the exact time, not sure why, but I found out that the VIP event was expected to start approx 6pm from others who worked in the gallery/tourism area. So I had some lunch with my hubby and walked to various cafes and stores and came back to the art gallery around 2.30pm and saw afew more people hanging near the barricades and ofcourse the red carpet was already in place and the same security guards positioned what seemed to me to be like everywhere close to the gallery. Again, I spoke to locals and none even knew there was a royal , and didn't know who Charlene was once I asked them. So off we go back to our motel and I am back at the gallery abit before 6pm. This time I see more people about but what I do notice very quickly forest street where I parked my car earlier in the day seemed to be rather congested and I saw 2 big buses parked there taking up space. Anyway, I finally parked my car and quickly walked down Mackenzie street approaching View street, and that's when I could hear sreaming kids and Noise, Noise. Obviously more people there now, but it was more from curiosity, indeed afew locals were telling me they were going for dinner and curious to see what was happening . So I told them... Honestly, I felt as though wherever I went and asked people only I knew that Princess Charlene was here. The indifference was incredible. No one cared or expressed any interest that she was here and that's what stood out for me. I felt that the whole thing was staged as I posted at the time, and felt that it was all to rather fake and just a way to try and build her up for the European media especially. As we now know she was travelling with Monaco representation too. Funny thing is, the only action was in View street and one or 2 streets near the gallery, otherwise the streets generally were nice and normal. The restaurants were buzzing with lots of people and weatherwise it was a lovely evening. But no one was out to see Charlene, and after the dragons and the kids show was over my hubby and I joined some friends for some lovely dinner. In my case all I wanted and looked forward to see was the Grace Kelly Exhibition the next day, and I wasn't dissapointed dear friends. I loved the gowns, gems, and the accessories. I will be going back in May to see it again. I loved it but at the same time angered and annoyed that Charlene is not deserving of the title and legacy that the wonderful Grace Kelly held. Sorry for the long post, but I just wanted to mention also that as you leave the exhibition there are entry forms for a " win a trip to monaco" . So wish me luck, and I would love to visit there ....
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Post by margarita on Mar 24, 2012 1:45:12 GMT -5
Thank you so very much, duchess1!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by duchess1 on Mar 25, 2012 18:15:13 GMT -5
Thank you so very much, duchess1!!!!!!!!!! My pleasure margarita !!!
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Post by axelle on Mar 25, 2012 19:24:34 GMT -5
Hi duchess1 that was brilliant! Thanks for the insight!
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Post by sandsla on Mar 26, 2012 14:24:26 GMT -5
Thank you Duchess1 . I was pretty sure it was you that had mentioned this, but I couldn't find it again? So thanks for posting again. I also liked what you had to say about Charlene and Grace, and that you also recapped a little here about your feeling of sadness of a woman like Charlene replacing the memory of someone like Grace, instead of building on the memory of Grace, which no doubt was Albert's plan, he has instead allowed Charlene to actually kill it and all Grace did for Monaco...that is what a woman in Grace's era and position could get away with then. At least before Charlene reared her ugly head (her person if you could call her that) Monaco at still had the memory of Grace, but now Albert has let and helped Charlene obliterate it....everything Grace's stood for, and that most people might find worthy of the title. Duchess1, I know these were not your exact words, rather they are mine, but I think that is the idea's that you and many women around the globe here seem to share, and it's what bothers so many of us, so the fact that you are not one of the usual posters here that are not referred to or so often dismissed las just a jealous poster. I hope it is not lost to those that read here, that you are someone that actually bought a ticket and attended and observed firsthand this event with an unbiased opinion of Charlene with a true realistic opinion of Charlene that also observed her popularity. Let me ask you do any of her appearance and photo ops, or magazine interviews do anything to change your impression of Charlene, and if they do, in what way? Albert and those that support Charlene, don't get the idea that Charlene is not the kind of person that any "normal" person with a conscience or a drop of integrity would like to see a woman like Charlene supported, rewarded, or even worse, celebrated. The idea of trying to elevate someone like her to have any kind of status (her main objective-self glory), it is not only a joke but a big insult to people, and not just women. If Albert and his staff want to continue to believe this is what jealousy is...I guess he can continue to try to sell her to "the bog people" ;)because of course they have so much use for a person with Charlene's qualities and contributions in the world. Even that Reindeer was laughing and rolling his eyes (picture 3) "Does she really expect me to fly" ;D
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Post by hibou on Mar 26, 2012 15:37:33 GMT -5
Thanks duchess for your eyewitness account. It's very much appreciated. Karma point!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2012 15:49:14 GMT -5
Duchess number one, thanks for your origin reports!!
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Post by cm7007 on Mar 26, 2012 22:08:15 GMT -5
He also mentions that Charlene, like Grace, is a person of great thoughtfulness and compassion. During the lead up to Charlene's wedding, John's sister Maura died. He says Charlene took the time to call and let him know she had commissioned a special rose for the palace garden in Maura's name. "It was a wonderful gesture, very touching ... that in the midst of getting ready for the wedding, she took the time to think of that and think of Albert's cousin and include us in her thoughts. I just find her to be a pretty special person."
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Just out of curiosity I "GOOGLED" Maura Kelly's Obit (The sister John B. Kelly is referring to here.) She died OCTOBER 21, 2010. With all due respect to the deceased - Dying 1year 9 months prior to the Wedding is HARDLY dying "During the lead up to (anything!) let alone THE Wedding!!!
Plus, How and Why did CW have the right or permission to "COMMISSION a SPECIAL ROSE for THE PALACE GARDEN" before she was even engaged to PA?! These people will lie about ANYTHING TO ACHIEVE WHATEVER IT IS THEY ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE! It's just unbelievable - and disgraceful.
Maura was only I think 53 - born in '57 - These people sure don't have longevity in their genes - early 50's is just about it for a lot of them. Also it's strange I could not find out what she died from. usually there is some mention of how the person died - esp. if they are young. And, no children and no mention of Grace Kelly - just her brothers and sisters, nieces and nephews and her parents.
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Post by paca on Mar 27, 2012 4:19:18 GMT -5
CM7007 they were already engaged at the time, but you are right it wasn't up to her to commission a rose, unless she had her own money to pay for it. And 9 month prior to the wedding.....it took Kate and Will to get engaged after them and get married beforehand, have a nicer wedding with more high caliber guests. ANd still Kate seemed to be rather relaxed in the lead up, probably because these people have people doing the organizing for them. Only the Brits are pro, MC are amateurs. ANd that's what their wedding was like andno one came out to watch.
I read the orbituary too. I suspect it was probably cancer as that is in most cases the reason for early death with women. Men tend haveeither cancer or heart problems. Unless it was suicide, which I believe the Kellys would try to keep underwraps. In any case you are right: the Kellys don't seem to live very long. They rarely seem to reach their 70s. Considering Alberts age, if he was to be a father, he might not see his kid live into its teens....
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Post by cm7007 on Mar 27, 2012 4:29:09 GMT -5
CM7007 they were already engaged at the time, but you are right it wasn't up to her to commission a rose, unless she had her own money to pay for it. And 9 month prior to the wedding.....it took Kate and Will to get engaged after them and get married beforehand, have a nicer wedding with more high caliber guests. ANd still Kate seemed to be rather relaxed in the lead up, probably because these people have people doing the organizing for them. Only the Brits are pro, MC are amateurs. ANd that's what their wedding was like andno one came out to watch. I read the orbituary too. I suspect it was probably cancer as that is in most cases the reason for early death with women. Men tend haveeither cancer or heart problems. Unless it was suicide, which I believe the Kellys would try to keep underwraps. In any case you are right: the Kellys don't seem to live very long. They rarely seem to reach their 70s. Considering Alberts age, if he was to be a father, he might not see his kid live into its teens.... Ah yes, you're right! I was thinking they married in July 2012 cause we're in 2012 and that shows everyone how I get through life! ;D But as you say - still. - it was 9 months before the wedding. Not one month! None of these people seem to know anything about what real work is! She was SOOOO busy and preoccupied it was just wonderful for her to make this gesture. Please. It's sickening.
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Post by paca on Mar 27, 2012 5:31:32 GMT -5
I guess that's what got her this far. These people are so removed from the real world and what normal people do, that they don't even get how lazy she is. They probably think that the fact that she get's out of bed is an achievement, because she doesn't have to. she has people at her call and beck all the time. There is practically nothing she needs to do or actually does. She is filling her days with reading about herself, getting dressed, getting undressed and wondering how to dress. Any person with half a brain would be bored in less then a week. SHe reminds me of one character in the imprtance of being earnest, that carries her own diary around, to always have sth worthwhile to read at hand...trashy probably wouldn't even get the joke...
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