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Post by agentf on Dec 22, 2020 10:42:24 GMT -5
Great analysis all around. I missed the baby mama's age, truth be told. But I did wonder what Lacoste was still doing there, however he does know where all the bodies are buried, so to speak. Brunel is linked to that pretty blonde supermodel linked to Albert, I forget her name. The one who had a meltdown and that no one believed back then. The way you describe Caroline's takeover actually seems like giving everyone much needed air. It's a fascinating theory that solves a lot. * erratum: the supermodel was connected to the Gerald Marie scandal. To be honest, it seems like the pieces are falling into place and the cover up is falling apart. Although in MC people didn't buy it at the time and word about her bolting was everywhere. Even the schoolkids were talking about it. The thing is that Lacoste still works with out of wedlock kid equals scandal, so he sticks to his usual defence. Albert already admitted 2, so no one except maybe charlene cares about it much. People will live with it and I expect most people in MC would embrace the child. There would be empathy and soon enough loyalty as one of theirs. Monegasques may criticise among them and residents, but once you don't live there anymore, you are out of the loop, and they get defensive about the grimaldis. Family members often act the same.They are at each others throat, but if the an outsider makes a similar statement, they turn on him. Anyways, if the kid is his, which is quickly proven, he would be well advised to quickly recognize her in a brief official statement and keep things quiet and private. Build a relationship with her include her in the family. If it gets into court, there will be records of the relationship and that will be all officially out there. The parties they attended, the travelling, the people who met them.... The kid shouldn't trouble Albert, the age of the mother is the scandal. She was 18 or 19 at the time of birth, so 17 to 18 at the time of conception. And she wasn't a one night stand. Albert was 46 or 47. Like andrew and virginia Giuffre. I am pretty sure the DM knows her name, but not allowed to publish it. I bet they will keep on digging and if there is anything connecting this story to Epstein, than Albert is toast. THAT is not sth Monegasques would swallow. For Charlene they would have empathy and probably understand, if she would want a divorce. For her it would be an easy spin, as she could claim not knowing the mothers age and being hurt just by the baby news at the time of the wedding. With a big tell all interview she could clear herself, gain sympathy, sling a bit of dirt at Alberts hangers on who covered everything up and walk away with plenty of cash and her children, who would no longer be in line to the throne, once the crown council apoints Caroline, lets her run the show and pass it on to her kids. She could return to Africa and live a socialite life there. I'm sure Caro will keep in touch (she has kept in touch with her stepkids, so there would remain ties to MC), so they would always be welcomed in the palace. But they could grow up away from scandal and fairly normal. Albert would probably end up in La Turbie, hoping that his out of wedlock kids would actually still want to be linked to him...
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Post by paca on Dec 22, 2020 15:11:10 GMT -5
I honestly think that Caroline is the best solution to make all those scandals recede to the background. She would have to divorce Ernst-August though as he remains a liability. I am not a fan of Andrea as future prince, but I think Caro would make sure that he will be ready when his time comes. A great plus for both her sons is that they have been for a very long time in stable relationships and they have children, so there is no worrying about the future for quite some time. Also they are known and well loved in MC. Kind of Harry bonus except they have turned out more stable, which speaks volumes about Caros skills as a mother. I have seen her at it and it was obvious that her children were always her first concern. I also believe that the way she managed to protect her children whilst suffering great tragedy herself is absolutely admirable. I believe that she is just as great as a grandmother so I am going to venture out here and say that her ability to mother will also benefit her grandchildren and their ability to form lasting relationships. Btw Charlottes instability in that respect I attribute to the lack of father. The brothers chose wifes that stand on their own feet and have strong personalities, so in their own way similar to Caro. Charlotte didn't have that daily rolemodel. I think her Gad episode shows clearly that she missed a father figure in her life.
So Caro and her offspring would give MC a long time to breathe and plan for the future. So by the time Andrea would need to step up, his children will have most likely grown up. With Albert and Charlene and their kids, no one can be sure about anything. The marriage seems to be always on the verge of break up, which surely will have an impact on the kids. Also with such unstable parents, who knows how they will turn out. Also, how long will Albert live and be able to show them the ropes. Charlene is tolerated, not loved in MC and once Albert is gone, I don't see how she will teach them and how they will get the love for the country, their mother hates. Without that love I don't think they would be willing to make the sacrifices they need to make to do a good job. So for MC it would be best if Albert was to step back and let Caro take the reigns. And not just as a regent. I think the people of MC would love that.
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Post by agentf on Dec 22, 2020 19:45:31 GMT -5
Albert would argue that unlike Caro, he hasn't had a mate assassinated, so he's still in the game and is succeeding at keeping his children safe but Caro has survived brilliantly not only through grief, but cancer and she's definitely a matriarch. Charlotte is like her mom, with the older man episode. My Charlotte has a rich emotional life, in my opinion. She is a free woman, much like the male Grimaldis have been however she does it tastefully, and she does it in a domestic life-friendly way rather than lurid affairs. She's a nester. Plus, she's probably her mom's rock so she would keep herself emotionally available to her mom and siblings and have a less airtight family of her own. She sacrifices. I love her. Her brothers are great, as are their mates and kiddies. I do agree there will be a gap to fill until Albert's heirs are ready, and going horizontal in the succession is not a bad idea or novel really so doable. I think Albert should groom a nephew for the interim, it's just smart. In an ideal, modern monarchy, you'd have a rotation in power - like elected terms but longer - so that a kingdom doesn't stagnate as long as princes(ses) excel in complementing ways and that the family has a mission statement to follow, much like a constitution on the democratic side. It's a really interesting subject. Bottom line...would Caro even want it? I think her achievements speak already for themselves. I honestly think that Caroline is the best solution to make all those scandals recede to the background. She would have to divorce Ernst-August though as he remains a liability. I am not a fan of Andrea as future prince, but I think Caro would make sure that he will be ready when his time comes. A great plus for both her sons is that they have been for a very long time in stable relationships and they have children, so there is no worrying about the future for quite some time. Also they are known and well loved in MC. Kind of Harry bonus except they have turned out more stable, which speaks volumes about Caros skills as a mother. I have seen her at it and it was obvious that her children were always her first concern. I also believe that the way she managed to protect her children whilst suffering great tragedy herself is absolutely admirable. I believe that she is just as great as a grandmother so I am going to venture out here and say that her ability to mother will also benefit her grandchildren and their ability to form lasting relationships. Btw Charlottes instability in that respect I attribute to the lack of father. The brothers chose wifes that stand on their own feet and have strong personalities, so in their own way similar to Caro. Charlotte didn't have that daily rolemodel. I think her Gad episode shows clearly that she missed a father figure in her life. So Caro and her offspring would give MC a long time to breathe and plan for the future. So by the time Andrea would need to step up, his children will have most likely grown up. With Albert and Charlene and their kids, no one can be sure about anything. The marriage seems to be always on the verge of break up, which surely will have an impact on the kids. Also with such unstable parents, who knows how they will turn out. Also, how long will Albert live and be able to show them the ropes. Charlene is tolerated, not loved in MC and once Albert is gone, I don't see how she will teach them and how they will get the love for the country, their mother hates. Without that love I don't think they would be willing to make the sacrifices they need to make to do a good job. So for MC it would be best if Albert was to step back and let Caro take the reigns. And not just as a regent. I think the people of MC would love that.
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Post by paca on Dec 23, 2020 0:33:30 GMT -5
well, Jordan has a story to tell in that respect. The late king designated his son from his last marriage as heir and look who is king now. His halfbrother is old enough now to take over, but I don't think it is going to happen. ever. If MC would have modernized (which it still hasn't otherwise Gabriella would be next in line) Caro would have been ruling for some time. I honestly think that the macho state MC could really do with a female monarch. We have seen during this Pandemic that female leaders are good for the world. Just look at New Zealand. Practiced feminism without threatening the male ego. MC could use some of that. Especially since basically it's entire economy is in bits due to the virus. And with me too and so many out of work, you don't want to be connected in the news to sleezebags like Phil Green. You want them as far from you as possible. Caro doesn't socialise with them, Albert does and Charlene made his wife treasurer of her foundation because she is from SA. I just think that Caro has better judgement there and I think that bringing her social circle to MC would do it a world of good imagewise. Put the focus on arts and humanitarians, possibly scientists, make sure that taxavoiders get banned from MC and clean up all that white collar crime. Look to the future instead of flogging dead Grace.
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Post by paca on Dec 23, 2020 13:29:00 GMT -5
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Post by agentf on Dec 23, 2020 23:37:26 GMT -5
My German is rusty but I read CC shocks with half shaven head and something to the point that Gabriella gave her the haircut, so yeah you should get credit and a paycheque. In a perfect world. I'm always amazed at how chats or forums where people just muse away, just how seriously they're taken by people who should have far graver matters on their minds than reading them. I've made it into a reverse platform/loudspeaker, personally. Jordan is ok by me. They have a first family that espouses modern Muslim values while keeping some conservatism. As per Philip Green, I suppose his business problems are what's front and center? I think there's a generation of people going out the door, that younger people aren't interested in what was sexy to those, and the Peter Nygards, Philip Greens, Ghislaine Maxwell and other denizens are some of them. Try-hards with cash who end up monstrous. Which brings us back to the botched mohawk πππ
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Post by paca on Dec 24, 2020 10:22:40 GMT -5
Bunte is a people magazine, they don't write about serious things. I also don't consider those who write there journalists. They mainly use DM content when it comes to international/enlish speaking people. I wonder if they have to pay for translating their content. With British media, they share their content on the BRF and give credit to who broke the story. German media doesn't do that. they do their own work or use agency content. But Bunte rarely have original content internationally (locally they do the usual PR bits about people no one knows and quickly forgets. Only Heidi Klum managed to get herself mentioned internationally that way. But boy did we have to endure reading about her thx to her dad. I am almost as sick of her as I am of Helene Fischer. And Claudia Schiffer was also in the beginning a never ending story, especially with her creepy magician, though she mostly relied on Karl. I'll never forget her statement about fruitsalad. No idea why her PR thought it was good thing to make her dumb blonde.) They are pretty lazy. Just rewriting, what others wrote before them. Plus they are probably surfing the forums all day long for ideas. That's when they refer to royalwatchers, not actual people with access. And with Charlene it was basically only down to the creepy guy musing about her cashmere jumper, when they got original content. I bet, that once the court case comes up, you will find things we discuss here somewhere in Bunte. Maybe she will shave her entire head by then....
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Post by paca on Dec 24, 2020 10:23:16 GMT -5
Merry xmas by the way....
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Post by agentf on Dec 25, 2020 15:04:18 GMT -5
You mean CC could actually be bald before Albert?? ππ So Bunte is more news aggregator than journalism, oh well. I don't read People either. David Copperfield. I haven't spared a thought towards him lately, but many of these creepy men must be laying low. Frohe Weihnachten. Mine is far from merry, but I'm trying. Maybe by New Year's. I hope your little guys are well. Bunte is a people magazine, they don't write about serious things. I also don't consider those who write there journalists. They mainly use DM content when it comes to international/enlish speaking people. I wonder if they have to pay for translating their content. With British media, they share their content on the BRF and give credit to who broke the story. German media doesn't do that. they do their own work or use agency content. But Bunte rarely have original content internationally (locally they do the usual PR bits about people no one knows and quickly forgets. Only Heidi Klum managed to get herself mentioned internationally that way. But boy did we have to endure reading about her thx to her dad. I am almost as sick of her as I am of Helene Fischer. And Claudia Schiffer was also in the beginning a never ending story, especially with her creepy magician, though she mostly relied on Karl. I'll never forget her statement about fruitsalad. No idea why her PR thought it was good thing to make her dumb blonde.) They are pretty lazy. Just rewriting, what others wrote before them. Plus they are probably surfing the forums all day long for ideas. That's when they refer to royalwatchers, not actual people with access. And with Charlene it was basically only down to the creepy guy musing about her cashmere jumper, when they got original content. I bet, that once the court case comes up, you will find things we discuss here somewhere in Bunte. Maybe she will shave her entire head by then....
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Post by paca on Dec 25, 2020 17:37:54 GMT -5
Those little guys are not so little anymore. But I just spent one of the loveliest and stressfree xmases in a few years with my oldest. He left well fed, loaded with food, leftovers of our delicious xmas meal and plenty of gifts to return to his student home. The other preferred to live out his puberty hormones and try independence catsitting our covid cats who have returned to their proper owners, who are away for xmas. Hopefully that will help screw his had back on. That or the lack of his computer. Exercising tough love on a guy who seems to have inherited the entire families pigheads.Tough one, but it would be really sad to see him throw his talent away. Pighead and artist, not an easy combination. Hopefully he will come around. Brother had a similar phase half a year early. Had a tough talk with me, stuck it out, now he is happy and back to the son I used to know. Hopefully his brother will see the light and realize that he hasn't thought his decision to the end. New girlfriend doesn't help.... ah, well. the only way is up after this year.
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Post by agentf on Dec 25, 2020 20:31:47 GMT -5
" the only way is up after this year". Truer words were never spoken! I'm glad to hear your sons are developing into fascinating individuals though it takes a strong stewardship. It'll be all the more rewarding later. ππΌ
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Post by axelle on Jan 21, 2021 20:41:01 GMT -5
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Post by axelle on Jan 21, 2021 20:41:56 GMT -5
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Post by agentf on Jan 22, 2021 7:44:27 GMT -5
Only to later welcome another member of the extended family. Maybe then it will be a full mohawk... A normal and more sincere show of support would have been to issue a statement of support before the weird haircut. It would have been more believable but at least their publicist is earning his/her salary.
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Post by axelle on Jan 22, 2021 20:55:24 GMT -5
I agree and this is beginning to look like Of course I will support anything you do as long as I get to keep my lifestyle.
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Post by agentf on Jan 23, 2021 16:32:04 GMT -5
See, I was calling it "resigned". That was before the baby drama mama thing. Is anyone paying attention to the VendΓ©e Globe race? Exciting stuff. They're in 2nd place after a grueling race, crazy repairs in storms, no sleep...the captain is finally cruising. Ah, these maniacs. I'm so jealous. I agree and this is beginning to look like Of course I will support anything you do as long as I get to keep my lifestyle.
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Post by axelle on Jan 24, 2021 11:55:49 GMT -5
I didn't know about that - very cool race!!
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Post by agentf on Jan 25, 2021 14:24:33 GMT -5
It ends this week and has been an epic journey full of events and drama. The captain, Boris Hermann, has now been doing Zoom calls, with as many as 7000 fans online, since the weather improved but there were times, I tell you, when it was hairy. He's in the top 3. I guess Mama Wati heard him π http://instagram.com/p/CKenZeLrrfn I didn't know about that - very cool race!!
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Post by paca on Jan 27, 2021 7:34:43 GMT -5
Great analysis all around. I missed the baby mama's age, truth be told. But I did wonder what Lacoste was still doing there, however he does know where all the bodies are buried, so to speak. Brunel is linked to that pretty blonde supermodel linked to Albert, I forget her name. The one who had a meltdown and that no one believed back then. The way you describe Caroline's takeover actually seems like giving everyone much needed air. It's a fascinating theory that solves a lot. * erratum: the supermodel was connected to the Gerald Marie scandal. the supermodel was Karen Mulder, as I just remember. I think she said sth about being used as sex slave. Her parents blamed it on drugs, but I wonder whether in hindsight, they are kicking themselves for not taking her allegations seriously. link
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Post by axelle on Jan 31, 2021 7:26:10 GMT -5
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