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Post by agentf on Jul 16, 2021 13:22:06 GMT -5
Just as with the tech companies who were operating in a rarefied metazone, why not just collect back taxes from the Rothschilds? E pluribus unum... Nec pluribus impar? Alouette? yes, that is true. Also remember that on their "honeymoon" she met Zuma. Anyways IMO what happens there now is due to Mandela selling out his people, so that the rich white guys could remain rich white guys and some black guys could become rich black guys. I just mentioned to someone that the wall came down, but we still have a wall. And problems we have are to a large degree due to that, though also because more than 70 years ago an Austrian failed white male painter usurped this country and not enough people were properly punished for what they did. While those who faught him were still in captivity, the Nazis climbed back into their seats everywhere to continue to spread their venom. Given those timelines, women will never live to see equality. I do love that Jamaica wants reparation for slave trade. And yes, I think that those who benefitted should pay to those who suffered or their heirs respectively. Guess a lot of rich people in the UK and US would end up a lot less rich....
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Post by paca on Jul 17, 2021 7:10:28 GMT -5
yes, those tax evaders like Amazon fb etc. should be stopped. But they are lobbying to get their way and most politicians are corrupt or useless or both. What irks me is that the Hohenzollern are demanding money art etc., but no one goes after them for the bad they caused. They are still living in wealth for which poor people died. Pitty that Germans didn't use the French solution to get rid of those parasites. At least then there wouldn't be any nazi offspring of theirs to intimidate historians and journalists who provide evidence that the Hohenzollern were Nazis and thus are entitled to nothing. Scum in the lowest form. Confirmation that we are better off without such a morally void family in charge of this country. They should be socially disgraced and stripped off everything. It is time that Germany followed suit in what Austria did and disallow titles etc. None of the local nobility have done this country much good. Too much inbreeding I guess... Anyways I think that as a South African and current resident she should find a way to take a stand. Obviously she needs to discuss with Albert, but I think she needs to do more than sewing blankets, anyone can easily buy for less. It is her chance to find her own voice.
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Post by axelle on Jul 17, 2021 8:53:17 GMT -5
Wow where did you find the mentions about preparing for a divorce?
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Post by paca on Jul 17, 2021 13:24:21 GMT -5
It was reported in Bunte and others. The palace keeps peddleing the love story, which is suspicious IMO. On the other hand I think that they are once again victim of their bad PR. I do find her statement about that implant credible. She did have her teeth fixed pre wedding. She is now older and has had twins. My mother used to say that she gave a tooth for each child and I have to say that it happened to me too. With age and pregnancy teeth can get more vulnerabe. Add to that the massive dentalwork she had done, I am not surprised that she would need an implant now. Her smoking wasn't helpful either and we could all see how her gums were structured pre Alberts money. Remember how at first her new teeth looked like chicklets stuck on? A bit later she had the entire upper gum fixed and new teeth put in. You could tell in her first interviews that she had difficulties speaking with those new teeth. Given that she also had her nose fixed, with the new work on her gums, I am not surprised that she had difficulties. If she continues mucking about with her face, she will get more problems in he future. Lets hope she is now giving up on her addiction. Still there are other ways to travel then planes. I am sure she could get on a boat or a train. so, if she really wanted to be in MC, she could be.
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Post by agentf on Jul 18, 2021 5:53:25 GMT -5
The last time* my ilk fought, it was for a French Bourbon king trying to help his Austro-Hungarian relative and it cost us New France so I don't know about the modern German crown. In terms of regret, it does however strike a chord, but not towards our king. My personal regret is for the disgusting incivility that reigns here now that makes descendants of far braver people meet with the hostility of the scum parading as the new power in town. I digress. I guess it's the polar opposite here. *Barring for the US in 1780s & WW2. yes, those tax evaders like Amazon fb etc. should be stopped. But they are lobbying to get their way and most politicians are corrupt or useless or both. What irks me is that the Hohenzollern are demanding money art etc., but no one goes after them for the bad they caused. They are still living in wealth for which poor people died. Pitty that Germans didn't use the French solution to get rid of those parasites. At least then there wouldn't be any nazi offspring of theirs to intimidate historians and journalists who provide evidence that the Hohenzollern were Nazis and thus are entitled to nothing. Scum in the lowest form. Confirmation that we are better off without such a morally void family in charge of this country. They should be socially disgraced and stripped off everything. It is time that Germany followed suit in what Austria did and disallow titles etc. None of the local nobility have done this country much good. Too much inbreeding I guess... Anyways I think that as a South African and current resident she should find a way to take a stand. Obviously she needs to discuss with Albert, but I think she needs to do more than sewing blankets, anyone can easily buy for less. It is her chance to find her own voice.
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Post by axelle on Jul 18, 2021 8:46:23 GMT -5
It was reported in Bunte and others. The palace keeps peddleing the love story, which is suspicious IMO. On the other hand I think that they are once again victim of their bad PR. I do find her statement about that implant credible. She did have her teeth fixed pre wedding. She is now older and has had twins. My mother used to say that she gave a tooth for each child and I have to say that it happened to me too. With age and pregnancy teeth can get more vulnerabe. Add to that the massive dentalwork she had done, I am not surprised that she would need an implant now. Her smoking wasn't helpful either and we could all see how her gums were structured pre Alberts money. Remember how at first her new teeth looked like chicklets stuck on? A bit later she had the entire upper gum fixed and new teeth put in. You could tell in her first interviews that she had difficulties speaking with those new teeth. Given that she also had her nose fixed, with the new work on her gums, I am not surprised that she had difficulties. If she continues mucking about with her face, she will get more problems in he future. Lets hope she is now giving up on her addiction. Still there are other ways to travel then planes. I am sure she could get on a boat or a train. so, if she really wanted to be in MC, she could be. I agree with you - all good points over time. I never though it would last as long as it has.
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Post by paca on Jul 29, 2021 17:03:56 GMT -5
Yeah, that is why as soon as she doesn't show, divorce rumours creep up. I wonder if it is just wishful thinking of Monegasques who would love to have someone there who really cares for them. It might eventually cost them Monaco as people are not as attached to Albert as they were to Rainier. They might just opt to drop the Grimaldis. Its not like they are such a tourist magnet these days.
anyways, read somewhere that Charlene is househunting in SA with her bro. Also talk about a deal similar to what Caro and Ernst are practicing. Not sure why those 2 aren't divorcing, given that they both have done it before. Clutching on to a non existing title seems pathetic, when you have an existing one. And given that ernst has fallen out with his son, there seems to be no need to remain married to him to keep in touch with her stepsons. So whats the point of staying married?
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Post by agentf on Jul 30, 2021 5:20:04 GMT -5
Ernst just got out of rehab, whether rehab rehab or physical rehab (he had health issues) but he's on the mend. Why do people stay married while living apart....😩 Sometimes it's a question of life or death, as rarely the underbelly reaches the headlines to expose the constant threats, the pitfalls, the blackmail, etc that royal spouses are under. Remember what happened to Caro's loveliest husband? Was that payback for not abiding by something? We won't know. Maybe self-preservation is a motive, as is any arrangement for their daughter's future. Staying together may be about guarantees and strength in numbers. 🤷🏻♀️ Yeah, that is why as soon as she doesn't show, divorce rumours creep up. I wonder if it is just wishful thinking of Monegasques who would love to have someone there who really cares for them. It might eventually cost them Monaco as people are not as attached to Albert as they were to Rainier. They might just opt to drop the Grimaldis. Its not like they are such a tourist magnet these days. anyways, read somewhere that Charlene is househunting in SA with her bro. Also talk about a deal similar to what Caro and Ernst are practicing. Not sure why those 2 aren't divorcing, given that they both have done it before. Clutching on to a non existing title seems pathetic, when you have an existing one. And given that ernst has fallen out with his son, there seems to be no need to remain married to him to keep in touch with her stepsons. So whats the point of staying married?
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Post by paca on Aug 1, 2021 13:34:50 GMT -5
she won't be back in MC until end of October.( so just before the runaround for national holiday starts) She claims she can't rush her recovery, but she can give a fairly exact date to its end? 3 month should easily allow her to travel by train or boat. She could ride an e bike home, if she wanted to be there.... Also she could have taken the kids out of school and have them stay with her for a few months. At least once they found out how long it would take. I am sure they could have put the kids in a local school for a couple of months. Could have been a good experience for them to see how other children learn. www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9848993/Princess-Charlene-says-wont-return-Monaco-October.html
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Post by agentf on Aug 1, 2021 17:39:16 GMT -5
Curiouser and curiouser. Maybe like the Montecito pair, it's a twisted way to stay in the news? Keep Monaco on the map? CC's PR is just as thin-skinned and reactive as the other pair. Parenthood all around is not a priority for them. she won't be back in MC until end of October.( so just before the runaround for national holiday starts) She claims she can't rush her recovery, but she can give a fairly exact date to its end? 3 month should easily allow her to travel by train or boat. She could ride an e bike home, if she wanted to be there.... Also she could have taken the kids out of school and have them stay with her for a few months. At least once they found out how long it would take. I am sure they could have put the kids in a local school for a couple of months. Could have been a good experience for them to see how other children learn. www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9848993/Princess-Charlene-says-wont-return-Monaco-October.html
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Post by paca on Aug 2, 2021 8:07:49 GMT -5
apparently Albert and the kids will visit end of August. That will be a very brief visit, as school starts in september. Unless he leaves them with her for a few months... anyways they already include the political situation as a big if... also it seems that their last visit was to Natal... is that were she is staying?
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Post by paca on Aug 2, 2021 11:31:19 GMT -5
So, MC rumours are running wild apparently that she will not return at all. Stephane bern, who was, if I am not mistaken, a guest at their wedding and is considered a family friend has written about it. He claims that she is only writing positive about Albert on social media, so she doesn't come out as the bad guy. She would definetely lose the kids, who are currently not with family, but with nannies. IMO that says everything about Albert and her. Couldn't they arrange for them to stay with their nannies with family? Stephs kids are all grown, couldn't Albert ask her to step in? Or her brother? he is living off them since more than 10 years, so where is he? It's been said that she was house hunting with her brothers, so apparently he is in SA too. So couldn't he take the kids and nannies along to see their mother? Or is Albert afraid that she would keep the kids in SA to blackmail him? He should know that courts would not allow that and it would make her look bad. As does keeping the kids from her. The kids have rights, whether they are the kids of a prince or a pauper. And the parents should act accordingly. Maybe Caro can remind him as she had a statue put up in Fontvielle for amade to that respect. www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9852289/Princess-Charlene-Monaco-no-intention-ending-South-African-exile-soon-sources-claim.html
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Post by paca on Aug 2, 2021 11:57:28 GMT -5
Here is another one. With regards to her not speaking French, in her defence, Grace wasn't fluent until the mid 60s, though she was in MC more often, so had more opportunity to hear and speak the language. (not that Monegasques are well known for their linguistic skills. Italian, yes, but most of them do not speak English well. And they don't care that they don't) And it took her 25 years to actually wear the tradional outfit. So maybe to some degree the Monegasques should remember that their love for Grace was mostly posthumous. SHe made more of an effort than Charlene, but it is not like that was appreciated by the monegasques until after her death. Pretty much the same happened to Diana. Over their dead bodies they became icons. www.gala.fr/l_actu/news_de_stars/charlene-de-monaco-jugee-et-incomprise-une-amie-de-la-princesse-se-confie_473560
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Post by agentf on Aug 2, 2021 12:12:01 GMT -5
I wonder if all this speculation makes Albert appreciate ultimately his own father's predicament at balancing work-life issues; the stability of his country and the constant unforeseen variables, etc. I wonder if he's forgiving towards him, as he is pretty much midstride in his reign. On another note, the coverage adds pressure. I enjoy Stéphane Bern's professionalism. His documentaries are very good. Is he telegraphing ? Who knows. Albert is not going to win a PR war, not with a paternity suit. CC sure is picking her timing for her manoeuvers. It does make you wonder about their relationship, when it seems to play out this way. Not overly warm... Here is another one. With regards to her not speaking French, in her defence, Grace wasn't fluent until the mid 60s, though she was in MC more often, so had more opportunity to hear and speak the language. (not that Monegasques are well known for their linguistic skills. Italian, yes, but most of them do not speak English well. And they don't care that they don't) And it took her 25 years to actually wear the tradional outfit. So maybe to some degree the Monegasques should remember that their love for Grace was mostly posthumous. SHe made more of an effort than Charlene, but it is not like that was appreciated by the monegasques until after her death. Pretty much the same happened to Diana. Over their dead bodies they became icons. www.gala.fr/l_actu/news_de_stars/charlene-de-monaco-jugee-et-incomprise-une-amie-de-la-princesse-se-confie_473560
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Post by agentf on Aug 2, 2021 12:15:34 GMT -5
PR Ping Pong, after Bern's foray. 🍿🥱 Here is another one. With regards to her not speaking French, in her defence, Grace wasn't fluent until the mid 60s, though she was in MC more often, so had more opportunity to hear and speak the language. (not that Monegasques are well known for their linguistic skills. Italian, yes, but most of them do not speak English well. And they don't care that they don't) And it took her 25 years to actually wear the tradional outfit. So maybe to some degree the Monegasques should remember that their love for Grace was mostly posthumous. SHe made more of an effort than Charlene, but it is not like that was appreciated by the monegasques until after her death. Pretty much the same happened to Diana. Over their dead bodies they became icons. www.gala.fr/l_actu/news_de_stars/charlene-de-monaco-jugee-et-incomprise-une-amie-de-la-princesse-se-confie_473560
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Post by paca on Aug 2, 2021 13:23:18 GMT -5
Well, by National holiday she has to make up her mind. This just buys her a bit more time. There is also reporting that the baby matter is handled out of court quietly, like the others. Though there will have to be an announcement as with the others and frankly at his age and reputation, he better contact all potential baby mamas and get all possible claims sorted now. He should have done it before the wedding, but now is his last chance to be decent. Get all out there and settled. He is too old to have his past still creep up on him.
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Post by paca on Aug 2, 2021 14:21:01 GMT -5
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Post by agentf on Aug 2, 2021 14:35:54 GMT -5
Are she and her brothers a package deal all the time, or what?
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Post by paca on Aug 2, 2021 15:08:16 GMT -5
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Post by paca on Aug 2, 2021 15:36:06 GMT -5
well, someone really seems to want her seen in a bad light. Apparently Bern found someone to tell him that she is suffering from paranoia. Given that Bern is close to the family, and in that I mean Albert and his lot, he would not make this public unless it has been okayed. He wants to be invited in the future. Charlene is not in his future. They will drop her like a hot potatoe once word gets out. If you decide to leave mc, you cease to exist to them. Obviously she will play a role in the kids lives, but that will all take place outside MC. www.legossip.net/charlene-de-monaco-paranoia-mefiance-revelation-sur-son-etat-actuel/453981/ In Mc she will be a non topic.
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