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Post by scout on May 10, 2011 11:03:15 GMT -5
Geez, will Albert ever let Grace rest in peace?
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Post by emmeline on May 10, 2011 11:06:43 GMT -5
^I guess Grace will rest in peace once Monaco is ruled by Caroline or other competent person. Or when Monaco becomes a republic (?)
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Post by margarita on May 10, 2011 11:31:16 GMT -5
Yippeh! Journalists - go on!!! Do your job There's much to write about your colleagues missed to tell
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Post by smt on May 10, 2011 13:37:02 GMT -5
My cousin won a trip to Monaco through work (I'm guessing lunch w/the Wittstocks in South Africa was second prize). He and his wife leave on Saturday morning. I brought him up to speed on Fat Al and Trampolina by sending him a synopsis and some before and after pictures of Trampolina. His reaction: OMG! Her mouth is totally different!
He said the company gave him an itinerary of events along w/protocol for what to wear. He said, "... I guess they want to make sure that we don't look like white trash." Oh, my dear cousin, the white trash have already taken over Monaco!
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Post by hibou on May 10, 2011 14:28:50 GMT -5
My cousin won a trip to Monaco through work (I'm guessing lunch w/the Wittstocks in South Africa was second prize). He and his wife leave on Saturday morning. I brought him up to speed on Fat Al and Trampolina by sending him a synopsis and some before and after pictures of Trampolina. His reaction: OMG! Her mouth is totally different! He said the company gave him an itinerary of events along w/protocol for what to wear. He said, "... I guess they want to make sure that we don't look like white trash." Oh, my dear cousin, the white trash have already taken over Monaco! Thanks and a big karma! I can't wait until he returns with news. Hey, is he willing to send you updates?
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Post by smt on May 10, 2011 17:48:31 GMT -5
My cousin won a trip to Monaco through work (I'm guessing lunch w/the Wittstocks in South Africa was second prize). He and his wife leave on Saturday morning. I brought him up to speed on Fat Al and Trampolina by sending him a synopsis and some before and after pictures of Trampolina. His reaction: OMG! Her mouth is totally different! He said the company gave him an itinerary of events along w/protocol for what to wear. He said, "... I guess they want to make sure that we don't look like white trash." Oh, my dear cousin, the white trash have already taken over Monaco! Thanks and a big karma! I can't wait until he returns with news. Hey, is he willing to send you updates? He returns on Friday, 5/20 and is stopping by my house on his way home from the airport. I'll post any updates at that time. I think his company has a full itinerary of events for him while in Monaco -- I can't imagine what? Cleaning up in the OR after one of Trampolina's many surgeries?
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Post by hibou on May 10, 2011 18:36:27 GMT -5
Thanks and a big karma! I can't wait until he returns with news. Hey, is he willing to send you updates? He returns on Friday, 5/20 and is stopping by my house on his way home from the airport. I'll post any updates at that time. I think his company has a full itinerary of events for him while in Monaco -- I can't imagine what? Cleaning up in the OR after one of Trampolina's many surgeries? Can't wait!
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Post by margarita on May 11, 2011 1:43:13 GMT -5
smt WOW that's really karma Thank you for sharing! Can't wait for news :-)
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Post by grandduchess on May 11, 2011 18:11:40 GMT -5
first of all it makes me sick the way they are using princess grace to try and sell this lie...storybook my eye! yea it's all a big old story, the only fairy in this fairytale if FAtAl. JMO all that glitters turns to caca when the nondynamic duo is involved (throwing up icon) The fact that they still need to use Grace's image should tell them what a failure CW is as a PR/economic/glamour boon. To the best of my knowledge, the British wedding organizers did not have to sell Kate to the people using Diana (I'm not saying there were no comparisons made, I'm saying that there was no deliberate campaign)
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Post by margarita on May 12, 2011 0:29:04 GMT -5
"The fact that they still need to use Grace's image should tell them what a failure CW is as a PR/economic/glamour boon.
To the best of my knowledge, the British wedding organizers did not have to sell Kate to the people using Diana (I'm not saying there were no comparisons made, I'm saying that there was no deliberate campaign) "
100% agree, grandduchess ... and if we take a look at the tread "Barometer of fame of Charlene" - number of facebook fans of Grace and even newcomer Pippa Middleton (who without any effort gained MUCH more popularity in two weeks than CW in six years ...) we know that the CW-New-Flagship-Image campain is a total flop. And still a little time to prevent the worst. To call off the wedding PR-event is damage control and would even boost the image!
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Post by scout on May 12, 2011 11:09:51 GMT -5
Very good point, grandduchess! Yes, Diana was mentioned, but the British royal family did not drag her out all the time to sell their wedding. They just let William and Catherine do their thing and the public was what generated all the buzz. Albert is dumb, but he apparently knows that his mother put Monaco on the map. The fact that the palace is reverting back to Grace at every chance tells me that they know Charlene is not selling as promised. Now we will find out if Albert is a total loser. All signs say to cancel the wedding, but it takes a lot of guts to break an engagement, particularly when you have tried to ensure that every person on the planet is aware of it by taking Charlene to Japan and Ireland. That's a lot of egg on your face.
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Post by margarita on May 12, 2011 12:08:21 GMT -5
good point scout Nobody sayd it's easy. IMO someone made sure that Albert takes CW on state visits even they are only engaged and tied CW to MC via image campain because he/ she knew Albert might bold. Someone who knows him knows it's in his nature. That means he it is possible to have a surprise in Monaco before July.
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Post by sandsla on May 12, 2011 15:41:28 GMT -5
"The fact that they still need to use Grace's image should tell them what a failure CW is as a PR/economic/glamour boon. To the best of my knowledge, the British wedding organizers did not have to sell Kate to the people using Diana (I'm not saying there were no comparisons made, I'm saying that there was no deliberate campaign) " 100% agree, grandduchess ... and if we take a look at the tread "Barometer of fame of Charlene" - number of facebook fans of Grace and even newcomer Pippa Middleton (who without any effort gained MUCH more popularity in two weeks than CW in six years ...) we know that the CW-New-Flagship-Image campain is a total flop. And still a little time to prevent the worst.To call off the wedding PR-event is damage control and would even boost the image! [/b] So true! I posted a post in the exotic garden thread but I may have deleted part of it, but it was exactly about this. Kate never "posed" for the press. If you have to peddle someone to generate interest you're in trouble. The only people they have managed to attract are other gold-diggers just like her, who else could like or admire her! What are these kind of people going to do for Monaco? They're all out of their minds--we've been warning them from the beginning but they seem hell bent on progressively digging themselves each day into a deeper hole. I really don't understand why Albert surrounds himself with these people--he seems to be on some kind of suicide mission. It's too weird for words!
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Post by sandsla on May 12, 2011 16:10:32 GMT -5
Very good point, grandduchess! Yes, Diana was mentioned, but the British royal family did not drag her out all the time to sell their wedding. They just let William and Catherine do their thing and the public was what generated all the buzz. Albert is dumb, but he apparently knows that his mother put Monaco on the map. The fact that the palace is reverting back to Grace at every chance tells me that they know Charlene is not selling as promised. Now we will find out if Albert is a total loser. All signs say to cancel the wedding, but it takes a lot of guts to break an engagement, particularly when you have tried to ensure that every person on the planet is aware of it by taking Charlene to Japan and Ireland. That's a lot of egg on your face. Albert needs to show he has some guts and a spine! yes, it's very presumptuous and just really bad protocol to take her on foreign visits when she is not yet his spouse. It's rude and disrespectful also. Who wants to be "used" as a photo shoot to peddle amd promote Albert's mock marriage with his mock girlfriend. No one at the palace is doing Albert, Charlene, or Monaco any favors here by doing this. They look so totally desperate for attention. They all seem to have a total lack of humility about this? Albert just needs to weather the storm, whether it be economical or his personal life--that trouble will pass much quicker than a bad invented marriage yhat is meant to deceive the public. I don't care how much egg is on Albert's face now, because no matter what happens, it's going to be much much less than what it's going to be for Albert and the Palace once Albert goes through with it and marries this girl and actually makes her the Princess of Monaco. He will never recover from it, if he goes through with this. This weird public personal relationship has already cost him his respect and a small fortune already. I don't understand why he wants to ruin the rest of his life--any change now can only be positive from the train wreck path he's been on. I don't understand why anyone thought taking it to another level would help. Even if they manage to discredit Albert they have also screwed their own reputations. Also Grace put Monaco on the map because of who she was as a person before she became the Princess of Monaco. That is where the Palace, Albert, and Charlene have it very backwards. The woman made the title--the title didn't make the woman that was Grace Kelly, she made the title mean something, in the same way Charlene makes a joke of it. It is the woman behind the title that is going to make it mean anything or attract anyone. Grace would have probably been even more popular if she had stayed a Hollywood actress--she did quite a few films in a small amount of time. The palace and Albert and especially Charlene seem to to think the title is going to turn any women with that title into Grace Kelly . Grace already did the heavy lifting in that area Putting Monaco on the map--Albert just needed to find someone halfway respectable that he loved and that loved him.
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Post by margarita on May 12, 2011 16:43:21 GMT -5
"I don't care how much egg is on his face now, because no matter what happens it's going to be much much less now than what it is going to be once he goes through with it and actually marries her. (...) The fact that Albert would be willing to call it off and actually do whats right, no matter how much he might suffer from it might actually earn him some respect from people plus anything is going to be infinitely better than the Pandoras box of trouble he is INVITING and about to unleash on himself.[/quote] 1001% agree! after reading Paca's posts I think the "true" Monegasques - and people who moved there and really care - would forgive Albert almost anything if he called off now. This ship is sinking if he doesn't bold now! Gooo Albert - be you - call off!!! One time in your live: don't do what people expecting! Turn the tables, stand up, shock and rock the rock. It sets you free! and saves Monaco SANDSLA Sooo glad you're back!!!! I was thinking of you so often and missed your posts Welcome back. Monaco is doomed with CW but obviously not totaly lost. That you are back is definitly a good sign!!! Let's pray that thinks take a turn.
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Post by emmeline on May 12, 2011 18:03:12 GMT -5
Sandsla!! Welcome Back!! Absolutely agree with you. 50 days to open the Pandora Box....AL DON'T DO IT!! like margarita said: BE YOURSELF! CALL THIS FARSE OFF! you want some respect from monegasques? call this off!
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Post by Elektra on May 12, 2011 18:26:03 GMT -5
I do not think that PA is so much interested in plain respect. He wants recognition in form of prizes, awards, honorary doctor titles for his efforts to tell other people how to save our environment.
The people in Monaco will not change him or the political system as long as their standard of living does not change. If the average standard of living in Monaco were like the one in South Africa, there would not be a Prince Albert, probably not even a princely family. Even if he chose to marry an ape in drags they would not complain as long as their standard of living would be the same. Money rules the world.
Therefore let us enjoy the ongoing soap opera about the rock and the rockies. I think they are good for a lot of juicy events. It is just the beginning.
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Post by sandsla on May 12, 2011 18:46:13 GMT -5
"I don't care how much egg is on his face now, because no matter what happens it's going to be much much less now than what it is going to be once he goes through with it and actually marries her. (...) The fact that Albert would be willing to call it off and actually do whats right, no matter how much he might suffer from it might actually earn him some respect from people plus anything is going to be infinitely better than the Pandoras box of trouble he is INVITING and about to unleash on himself. 1001% agree! after reading Paca's posts I think the "true" Monegasques - and people who moved there and really care - would forgive Albert almost anything if he called off now. This ship is sinking if he doesn't bold now! Gooo Albert - be you - call off!!! One time in your live: don't do what people expecting! Turn the tables, stand up, shock and rock the rock. It sets you free! and saves Monaco SANDSLA Sooo glad you're back!!!! I was thinking of you so often and missed your posts Welcome back. Monaco is doomed with CW but obviously not totaly lost. That you are back is definitly a good sign!!! Let's pray that thinks take a turn. [/quote] :)Thanks so very much for the welcome you guys! I'm glad everyone is here! iI could have gotten lost if it wasn't for Myadia. I have a lot of catching up to do!
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Post by sandsla on May 12, 2011 19:19:37 GMT -5
I do not think that PA is so much interested in plain respect. He wants recognition in form of prizes, awards, honorary doctor titles for his efforts to tell other people how to save our environment. The people in Monaco will not change him or the political system as long as their standard of living does not change. If the average standard of living in Monaco were like the one in South Africa, there would not be a Prince Albert, probably not even a princely family. Even if he chose to marry an ape in drags they would not complain as long as their standard of living would be the same. Money rules the world. Therefore let us enjoy the ongoing soap opera about the rock and the rockies. I think they are good for a lot of juicy events. It is just the beginning. The thing is their standard of living is connected to the reputation and allure of Monaco, and it will eventually take it's toll. No one wants to see their Real Estate or the place they live degrade or become unpopular. Truly aside from the friends on the forums, I really am not interested in anything to do with Monaco once Albert actually marries this woman. I think it's kind of funny that so many Royal forums have deleted them off their forums--you would think that should tell them they have a problem and whatever they are trying to convince themselves about Charlene and their big royal wedding. Albert has really only made him self invisible since he started dating Charlene as hard as he has been trying to chase some attention, and it looks kind of pathetic in the way they/he has been trying to do it! People are attracting to people who are the most authentic to themselves. I don't think the people of Monaco are going to pitch a fit (yet) but I think they would be happy and more supportive if Albert came to his senses and stopped this big charade.
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Post by cm7007 on May 12, 2011 20:15:55 GMT -5
Very good point, grandduchess! Yes, Diana was mentioned, but the British royal family did not drag her out all the time to sell their wedding. They just let William and Catherine do their thing and the public was what generated all the buzz. Albert is dumb, but he apparently knows that his mother put Monaco on the map. The fact that the palace is reverting back to Grace at every chance tells me that they know Charlene is not selling as promised. Now we will find out if Albert is a total loser. All signs say to cancel the wedding, but it takes a lot of guts to break an engagement, particularly when you have tried to ensure that every person on the planet is aware of it by taking Charlene to Japan and Ireland. That's a lot of egg on your face. Albert needs to show he has some guts and a spine! yes, it's very presumptuous and just really bad protocol to take her on foreign visits when she is not yet his spouse. It's rude and disrespectful also. Who wants to be "used" as a photo shoot to peddle amd promote Albert's mock marriage with his mock girlfriend. No one at the palace is doing Albert, Charlene, or Monaco any favors here by doing this. They look so totally desperate for attention. They all seem to have a total lack of humility about this? Albert just needs to weather the storm, whether it be economical or his personal life--that trouble will pass much quicker than a bad invented marriage yhat is meant to deceive the public. I don't care how much egg is on Albert's face now, because no matter what happens, it's going to be much much less than what it's going to be for Albert and the Palace once Albert goes through with it and marries this girl and actually makes her the Princess of Monaco. He will never recover from it, if he goes through with this. This weird public personal relationship has already cost him his respect and a small fortune already. I don't understand why he wants to ruin the rest of his life--any change now can only be positive from the train wreck path he's been on. I don't understand why anyone thought taking it to another level would help. Even if they manage to discredit Albert they have also screwed their own reputations. Also Grace put Monaco on the map because of who she was as a person before she became the Princess of Monaco. That is where the Palace, Albert, and Charlene have it very backwards. The woman made the title--the title didn't make the woman that was Grace Kelly, she made the title mean something, in the same way Charlene makes a joke of it. It is the woman behind the title that is going to make it mean anything or attract anyone. Grace would have probably been even more popular if she had stayed a Hollywood actress--she did quite a few films in a small amount of time. The palace and Albert and especially Charlene seem to to think the title is going to turn any women with that title into Grace Kelly . Grace already did the heavy lifting in that area Putting Monaco on the map--Albert just needed to find someone halfway respectable that he loved and that loved him. Very well said, Sandsla!
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