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Post by agentf on Aug 13, 2012 17:03:13 GMT -5
Couples' surgery? Liposuction pour Monsieur and the whole enchilada for the Mrs?
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Post by paca on Aug 13, 2012 17:18:50 GMT -5
LOL I am still thinking that he wholed up with a few girls in his hotel to get a few of his swimmers on the way as for trashy, I think her surgeon whisked her off to his table right after the ball.... Her lips look redone on the pic from yesterday...
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Post by agentf on Aug 14, 2012 12:21:02 GMT -5
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Post by paca on Aug 14, 2012 12:52:29 GMT -5
LOL now I know with whom he wholed up with... after this party he disappeared for 3 days..... ;D ;D ;D
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Post by agentf on Aug 14, 2012 14:27:39 GMT -5
More ugly blonde athletes? You'd think he has enough of that by now... It reminds me of the Vegas girls, last year? Remember? They had him on video picking them up?
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Post by paca on Aug 14, 2012 15:43:18 GMT -5
Albert is Albert. He isn't going to change. ANd he had an incentive to offer: visit of his private volleyball court in La Turbie while the wife was out. It so explains his disappearance...leaving after the party for MC with them and then coming back with them in time for the closing ceremony and the basketball...without minders.... And these girls really won medals on their own. Albert is doing exactly what trashyis doing: trying to catch a glimpse of gold....
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Post by agentf on Aug 14, 2012 17:54:32 GMT -5
Pathetic, if you ask me. I'm going to start a forum on royal cats not catty royals for a change.
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Post by hibou on Aug 14, 2012 20:50:20 GMT -5
Albert is Albert. He isn't going to change. ANd he had an incentive to offer: visit of his private volleyball court in La Turbie while the wife was out. It so explains his disappearance...leaving after the party for MC with them and then coming back with them in time for the closing ceremony and the basketball...without minders.... And these girls really won medals on their own. Albert is doing exactly what trashyis doing: trying to catch a glimpse of gold.... They are the US beach Volley ball silver medalists. Their age is 30 - 33. Charlene's age. I don't see them being attracted to him. To me they look more embarrassed than anything. Albert has no clue that he is not a teenager or 20 something kid. He's old enough to be their father which is why this is so creepy. He doesn't get how inappropriate he comes across. I think he thought if he got married he could continue to pose with young blond athletes at the Olympics. JMO.
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Post by paca on Aug 15, 2012 3:25:24 GMT -5
lol silver of gold, at least it's a medal. That is more then trashy got. And one of them at least is his type. Why don't you see them attached to him? because they are Americans and ought to be smarter then that? Sorry, but I have seen very smart people doing very stupid things. They just got an Olympic medal, they want to party, Albert can offer them a lift to MC and more celebration. It's a once in a lifetime. he is married, so they might think they are safe. I don't think there are many young women who would refuse to party with a prince. It's a story they can tell back home. And at their age, they are most likely not too put off by his age. Look at George Soros and the age of his conquest. Anna Nicole Smith and her old guy. Sorry in comparison Albert is a young guy. For gold diggers or peoplewho just want to party, he is not creepy at all. Take away his title, his money, Monaco, then they might think he is creepy, but any guy who offers a girl to whisk her off in his private jet to MC to party will have dozens of girls willing to go. And the younger and less exerienced the girl, the more likely she is going to go. ANyways, it might not have been necessarily these ones, But I am certain that sth happened at the party to have him disappear until the closing day. And we know that trashy was already in SA. Had he been anywhere near the Olympics these days he would have been photographed. So either he stayed for days in his hotel, which I doubt, or took a few people to MC to have a private party, which is what the Albert we know would do. Also I think that trashy thought she was save to leave him there, knowing that his pic would be taken everywhere he went. Well, guess having the paparazzi babysit Albert wasn't such a god idea after all.... She does know that she can not leave Albert on his own, which is why she traveled everywhere with him before the ring. Once she had cornered ALbert, she stopped and only travelled to where she liked. I don't even think that she minds that much. She just doesn't want anyone to know that she knows and that Albert is still doing it. As long as she has the ring she is queen bee and get's all the media....
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Post by hibou on Aug 15, 2012 8:19:30 GMT -5
lol silver of gold, at least it's a medal. That is more then trashy got. And one of them at least is his type. Why don't you see them attached to him? because they are Americans and ought to be smarter then that? Sorry, but I have seen very smart people doing very stupid things. They just got an Olympic medal, they want to party, Albert can offer them a lift to MC and more celebration. It's a once in a lifetime. he is married, so they might think they are safe. I don't think there are many young women who would refuse to party with a prince. It's a story they can tell back home. And at their age, they are most likely not too put off by his age. Look at George Soros and the age of his conquest. Anna Nicole Smith and her old guy. Sorry in comparison Albert is a young guy. For gold diggers or peoplewho just want to party, he is not creepy at all. Take away his title, his money, Monaco, then they might think he is creepy, but any guy who offers a girl to whisk her off in his private jet to MC to party will have dozens of girls willing to go. And the younger and less exerienced the girl, the more likely she is going to go. ANyways, it might not have been necessarily these ones, But I am certain that sth happened at the party to have him disappear until the closing day. And we know that trashy was already in SA. Had he been anywhere near the Olympics these days he would have been photographed. So either he stayed for days in his hotel, which I doubt, or took a few people to MC to have a private party, which is what the Albert we know would do. Also I think that trashy thought she was save to leave him there, knowing that his pic would be taken everywhere he went. Well, guess having the paparazzi babysit Albert wasn't such a god idea after all.... She does know that she can not leave Albert on his own, which is why she traveled everywhere with him before the ring. Once she had cornered ALbert, she stopped and only travelled to where she liked. I don't even think that she minds that much. She just doesn't want anyone to know that she knows and that Albert is still doing it. As long as she has the ring she is queen bee and get's all the media.... It's the expressions on their faces. Something to me just says they just aren't that into him, more embarrassed. It has nothing to do with them being American. With regard to women, I am quite capable at seeing low class women no matter nationality. I am not saying these are high class women. One of them chewed gum through out the competition while she was playing! So no it has nothing to do with them being American, although I do get tired of people bashing Americans for lack of class in general. Not all of us are in the gutter. In fact most of us are quite middle class, and I see nothing wrong with that if there are solid values behind it. I do admit the reality TV thing speaks to people of the trailer park variety. I agree about taking away the title and seeing what's left which is not much. Money, title and power does seem to attract a certain type of woman. JMO
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Post by agentf on Aug 15, 2012 9:26:12 GMT -5
If middle-class American reality TV trash like the Kardashians pitched KK as Albert's sex tape participant potential bride when she visited with her crazy mother, what's a couple of manly volleyball athletes to resist after a gazillion drinks or two? lol silver of gold, at least it's a medal. That is more then trashy got. And one of them at least is his type. Why don't you see them attached to him? because they are Americans and ought to be smarter then that? Sorry, but I have seen very smart people doing very stupid things. They just got an Olympic medal, they want to party, Albert can offer them a lift to MC and more celebration. It's a once in a lifetime. he is married, so they might think they are safe. I don't think there are many young women who would refuse to party with a prince. It's a story they can tell back home. And at their age, they are most likely not too put off by his age. Look at George Soros and the age of his conquest. Anna Nicole Smith and her old guy. Sorry in comparison Albert is a young guy. For gold diggers or peoplewho just want to party, he is not creepy at all. Take away his title, his money, Monaco, then they might think he is creepy, but any guy who offers a girl to whisk her off in his private jet to MC to party will have dozens of girls willing to go. And the younger and less exerienced the girl, the more likely she is going to go. ANyways, it might not have been necessarily these ones, But I am certain that sth happened at the party to have him disappear until the closing day. And we know that trashy was already in SA. Had he been anywhere near the Olympics these days he would have been photographed. So either he stayed for days in his hotel, which I doubt, or took a few people to MC to have a private party, which is what the Albert we know would do. Also I think that trashy thought she was save to leave him there, knowing that his pic would be taken everywhere he went. Well, guess having the paparazzi babysit Albert wasn't such a god idea after all.... She does know that she can not leave Albert on his own, which is why she traveled everywhere with him before the ring. Once she had cornered ALbert, she stopped and only travelled to where she liked. I don't even think that she minds that much. She just doesn't want anyone to know that she knows and that Albert is still doing it. As long as she has the ring she is queen bee and get's all the media....
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Post by paca on Aug 15, 2012 9:47:57 GMT -5
LOL I think the reason why people perceive a lack of class in Americans, though I am sure that people would use a different word, is because of the people who make it into the media. The world was laughing at W, now they are making fun of Romney. Add to that the Kardashians, Paris HIlton, Lindsay Lohan and other moronic Americans making it into the press, you can't blame people for thinking that the US has a higher quota of idiots then the average other nationality. It is what you are portraying to the world.
And for some reason a lot of people in the US seem to think that people who are rich are also smart. Let's face it: intellectuals are not popular in the US. Trump is. I am sure somewhere you have intellectually brilliant people in the US too, you are just very talented in hiding them. They don't seem to make it into high offices or are popular. The majority seems to admire people drugged up to the ninth, winning medals and then jumping around in a manner that reminds us of human origins. As long as they deliver a show, they will find a crowd to cheer them. And if they propagate common places like Steve Jobs they are hailed as if the messiah has returned. The mere thought that people actually considered him a philosopher has me in stitches.
You can't blame people for having formed an opinion about Americans according to what they perceive in the media. AMericans do that about the rest of the world too. Or why do you think people are afraid of bearded darkhaired and olive skinned men. Or why do you think a large number of white americans still thinks that a black or hispanic is more likely a criminal then a white American. American society is full of prejudices. That's how politics are made in the US. Politicians do not appeal to your intellect, they appeal to your emotions and prejudices. And you accept that. Otherwise no one would vote for those politicians and American politics could actually be called politics. And a large number of people forming in opinion in the US about the rest of the world are doing it by watching the likes of Fox news or similar media.
When the Republican candidates had their TV debates, the media in Europe was appalled at the blatend ignorance of all of them about foreign politics and their view of the world. Th choice of Romneys tour to Europe, his remarks in Israel etc just added on to it. He completely ignored the main players in Europe. No meetings with Merkel, Hollande Baroso, Juncker etc. no he goes to Poland. Because some voters in the US have Polish origins and might be more likely to vote for a candidate that knows that Poland exists.
If you are not content with how Americans are seen by the world, then you have to make sure that you and all those who think Americans are different support those who are and make sure they get seen in public. But I think I am safe to say that it will be easier to get those noticed outside the US then in the US. Fortunately most non Americans are open minded enough to acknowledge in personal encounters when people are different, but sadly even as tourists or foreign students most of them are perceived as friendly, helpful, but not so bright. And particularly the girls are perceived as rather naive and easy targets.
And that brings us back to Albert. In general Albert has an easy way of getting young girls. But Americans coming to Europe are easier prey then others to predators like Albert. I am not saying it is a fact that Albert took these girls to MC for a few days, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least. Remember the journalist that came to interview him in MC and ended up partying with him? One should have thought that she'd know better. We've had reports from Swedish and German journalists about ALbert hitting on them. They declined, she did not. NOt saying that other Europeans wouldn't have done like her, but the ones from the US are more easily impressed with him. Some even heard about his mom. That, his title, the money and what he can offer usually works well for ALbert. You know what Eringer said about Albert and women. There was never a shortage and his marriage hasn't changed that a bit.
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Post by hibou on Aug 15, 2012 12:34:05 GMT -5
Paca, You may be right about the ones who make it into the media because the ones who are intelligent tend to stay away from such spectacles. There are a group of college kids like my daughter who basically have no clue who the Kardasians are except to say they've heard of them. She doesn't watch that kind of TV but then she doesn't have time to watch much TV and even then she prefers a good movie. She's not a party girl and neither are her friends. They are much too busy. She'll be heading back to college in about a week. She does plan on spending her Junior year in Europe but hasn't decided where yet. She has lived with a family in Lyon for a few weeks. Her French is pretty good. Anyway, the people I know do not fit the image you describe.
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Post by smt on Aug 15, 2012 12:36:20 GMT -5
Paca, You may be right about the ones who make it into the media because the ones who are intelligent tend to stay away from such spectacles. There are a group of college kids like my daughter who basically have no clue who the Kardasians are except to say they've heard of them. She doesn't watch that kind of TV but then she doesn't have time to watch much TV and even then she prefers a good movie. She's not a party girl and neither are her friends. They are much too busy. She'll be heading back to college in about a week. She does plan on spending her Junior year in Europe but hasn't decided where yet. She has lived with a family in Lyon for a few weeks. Her French is pretty good. Anyway, the people I know do not fit the image you describe. Exactly! Thank you, Hibou!
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Post by paca on Aug 15, 2012 13:54:39 GMT -5
Yes, I do believe you hibou, but surely you meat a lot of people every day that do fit exactly that description and they seem to be the large majority. Or at least they are the ones that get heard and published. The majority of these people doesn't own a passport or travels much outside the US either. So obviously they do not come from your kind of background and they probably do not share a number of values that you cherrish. The problem with forming an opinion of of a foreign nation is that in most cases people lack the personal knowledge and the personal experiences to form a balanced opinion. You are always stereotyped. Americans are the bimbos, Germans are pedantic bureaucrats who annoy the rest of the world by blocking all the deckchairs with their towels and the French are the best cooks and lovers. And we all know that bearded, darkhaired men with a hooked nose and a funny accent are terrorists looking for an opportunity to kill as many people as possible. None of it is true and everything is absolutely true. All at the same time. Only personal experience can change that perception. You can keep an open mind about others and make sure that others notice that you are not fitting that stereotype. When your daughter comes to Europe, she will be contributing to how all Americans are seen. She is an unofficial ambassador. if she manages to make people see that Americans are different to what they are being stereotyped, then it'll spread...
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Post by agentf on Aug 15, 2012 17:03:06 GMT -5
Demagogues. That's what Americans generally are. (deleted - the rest was too deep for this forum) Back to senseless fun!
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Post by hibou on Aug 15, 2012 21:09:54 GMT -5
Demagogues. That's what Americans generally are. (deleted - the rest was too deep for this forum) Back to senseless fun! Try Eringer's blog for the rest. Yes royals are in general senseless fun. Similar to eating junk food. Some of us have a lot going on in our lives so senseless fun is a nice break from hard realities of life. Albert and Charlene are easy targets.
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Post by agentf on Aug 16, 2012 16:18:28 GMT -5
I need direction like a sun dial - Zen Loulouism.
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Post by hibou on Aug 16, 2012 16:28:37 GMT -5
I need direction like a sun dial - Zen Loulouism. LOL
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Post by paca on Aug 29, 2012 18:03:23 GMT -5
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