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Post by paca on May 16, 2012 16:15:40 GMT -5
Besides, do you really believe a 53 year old monarch with no illegitimate heir His illegitimate heir is named Eric Coste if I am right. He lives with his mother not too far away from Monaco - unless they moved. He has no legitimate heir - from his marriage to Charlene Wittstock. If there is no child born from the marriage then his only choice will be to change the constitution and legitim-ize his illegitimate son. The boy is getting older Maybe he is already training him in the shadow... who knows? Everything is possible.  I don't think so. Last news of them was that they were moved to Switzerland. No way trashy would allow Nicole and her son to live in or near MC after she got the ring.
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Post by cm7007 on May 16, 2012 19:25:54 GMT -5
Besides, do you really believe a 53 year old monarch with no illegitimate heir His illegitimate heir is named Eric Coste if I am right. He lives with his mother not too far away from Monaco - unless they moved. He has no legitimate heir - from his marriage to Charlene Wittstock. If there is no child born from the marriage then his only choice will be to change the constitution and legitim-ize his illegitimate son. The boy is getting older Maybe he is already training him in the shadow... who knows? Everything is possible.  It's possible, but highly unlikely - really highly unlikely! It's certainly NOT his ONLY choice to change the constitution to allow any of his illegitimate children to take over. But we will see what happens.
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Post by paca on May 16, 2012 19:45:07 GMT -5
He needs a majorityin the parliament to get theconstitution changed. Rainier changed specifically this part of the constitution and had an easy majority. I don't see them changing it back to please Assbert. They understood the reasoning behind Rainiers change. They will not see Assberts. If he was a great leader and had achieved great things for MC, they might consider it. If there were no other heirs in sight, they would give it a thought, but given the circumstances, he would probably get no one to vote for him. So it is not what Assbert wants, it is what he can get. And if trshy doesn't pop out an heir and a few spares any time soon, then he has no choice of getting rid of her and quickly get another pot to plant his seed or pass on the reigns to Caro and ultimately her offspring. There they would have to resolve the question though if the Casiraghis are considered legit or not. And with Alex they would have the problem that she has a protestant father and has to my knowledge been baptised in Austria, possibly protestant. So she may have to convert, if she is considered heir. But that should not be a problem as she is educated in a catholic school and raised by a catholic mom, so her knowlege about protestant church rituals will most likely be limited. And EW never struck me as an avid churchgoer, so she want get much instructions from his side in the matter.
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Post by vamilkshake on May 16, 2012 21:50:19 GMT -5
it must absolutely kill Charlene how the media adores Kate, how adoring and attentive Prince William is to her, and how genuine they seem as a royal couple. Kate is a superstar who earned it.
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Post by paca on May 17, 2012 2:51:45 GMT -5
not sure if she earned it,but she knows how to play her deck of card right. And although I do believe that the Middletons are social climbers(especially mom), they do seem to be at least smart enough to not step on peoples toes too much. Also they did work hard to come into some fortune themselves and do not slurp off their new relations. They are no intellectuals and they do care a tad too much for the for appearances (where to go, which school to attend, who to befriend etc) for my liking, but they do not over do it. Plus they don't keep running to the press at all times. Kate is no superstar. She isn't even a beauty. She is average, but so is William. So in that respect they are well suited. People always seem to think that Royals are somewhat special. They are indeed not. Most of them are pretty mediocre. They are only special due to their social rank, not by virtues, achievements or intelligence. In Britain they are only representative and not ruling and that is a good thing. QEII does what she does well: standing on balconies, waving, shaking hands, saying a few words here and there. that's why she is considered a good queen. If she had to rule, she'd be a disaster. Same goes for the rest of the family. They only have to appear, read lines that others wrote for them and keep themseves publicly out of trouble, which not all of them have managed. And whenever they are criticised it is mostly for their personal failures. But as long as whatever they do wrong doesn't get public, people don't care much. MC is totally different, as the family actually rules and decides over the lives of people. Plus MC is smaller and every mistep is watched and reported to the entire population in no time.
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Post by MyAdia on May 17, 2012 4:15:15 GMT -5
it must absolutely kill Charlene how the media adores Kate, how adoring and attentive Prince William is to her, and how genuine they seem as a royal couple. Kate is a superstar who earned it. It does kills her and that is why you will find tens of thousands of posts on royal message boards written by Charlene "Charlene's doppelganger" hating on Kate. Her latest rants are how much of a harder worker Charlene is compared to Kate because Chalrene has "traveled" all over the world in less than a year of marriage. Yes, Charlene really is just that stupid to think that showing up for red carpet events edifying herself and not doing a damn thing in and for the country that gave her the title she so adores makes her a better and harder working princess than Kate. Kate has taken as patronage of organizations that reflects her interests, passions and skills but also that edify her country. Her first charity is a patron of the Foundation of Prince William and Prince Harry. But she is also a patron of Action on Addiction, East Anglia's Children's Hospices, The Art Room and the National Portrait Gallery, London. Kate has an college degree in art history (with honors) so her involvement in the arts is a benefit to her and the organisations. In addition to these royal patronage, Kate a former Brownie is also an volunteer in the Scout Association - she privately volunteers with groups based in North Wales and has been formally named an "Occasional Helper" in the Beaver and Cub Scouts. For all her patronages, Kate makes both publicly and private visits. more importantly, these organizations have benefited immensely with Kate's patronage. Charlene on the other hand gallivants the world looking for opportunities to edify her most important person - CHARLENE. This is a woman who announces she will form the Princess Charlene Foundation - even before she became Princes Charlene. Who does that? No one but a sociopath narcissist. Monaco literally has dozens of charitable organisations supporting children needs, but theses organisations do not edify Charlene's most important person - Charlene. Who announces the creation of a foundation but not one single substantive information about the foundation? No one - but a sociopath narcissist like Charlene. Charlene announced the official creation of her foundation 5 months ago but hasn't released not one information about the substantive matters of the foundation because the only thing that matters to this woman is the name - the Princess CHARLENE foundation. Let's not forget, this is a woman who didn't life a single finger to actually wok in Monaco and when she did take on an honorary position as president of the Ladies lunch - she stopped going to their events once she got her tiara. the charity served her purpose - to finally report that she was actually doing some work in Monaco (for Charlene showing up to a lunch twice a year was work). So, to bring my point back to this topic, only a complete buffoon (and/or a person who has deep disdain for his people and his country) would impose such a useless person as Charlene on his people and Charlene will do anything to keep living off the fat hog - Albert. So, I expect a fake pregnancy and even a more fake dramatic miscarriage.
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Post by grimnir on May 18, 2012 9:29:10 GMT -5
I couldn't find anything on Eringer about Charlene being pregnant, but suffice it to say if it were True and Real they would have gotten a magazine cover to announce it. That would be real news and they would get (for once) a bit of positive press. Looking coldly at the whole story, the German mags at least have been saying she's pregnant for some time now. Not necessary THE front page stories, but at least small front page stories. it must absolutely kill Charlene how the media adores Kate, how adoring and attentive Prince William is to her, and how genuine they seem as a royal couple. Kate is a superstar who earned it. The first bit maybe, but IMO Kate and William look about as much in love as Albert and Barbie. K&W just look more normal or natural which makes their relationship less odd and less grating on the eye. C&A just look like a freak show and a grim fairytale, possibly even like a grim nightmare. I can see a fake miscarriage happening, if only to gain more sympathy, support and tabloid front pages. I can also see it as an excuse to never get pregnant due to that same miscarriage.
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Post by bobolin on May 18, 2012 19:42:52 GMT -5
I had my twins when I was 36. They are extremely intelligent, IQ over 130!! (test was done) , they are beautiful, play every single sport you can imagine, play a couple of musical instruments (piano and flute, violin is next) etc., etc. etc. Said this, I must say my husband is a little younger than me. So, it's not just the woman's age, but the man's that it's important for the health (mental and physical) of the babies. I do believe Albert waited waaaay too much. If he feels like me, he feels he is a teenager and has all the time in the World!!! But, reality is, I am old, so is he (11 years older than me though) .
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Post by bobolin on May 18, 2012 19:47:02 GMT -5
Andrea, IMO is more intelligent than he shows. He does have a degree or two. He has been working with Albert and he has been working with Caroline. I think that if it comes to take Al's place, he will do a good job. He is a bit arrogant, but who isn't in the Royal World? I think Albert does not care anymore about having a baby with Charlene and they will just fulfill the contract they signed. Stay together for some time, then they will get a divorce and that's all. I read this somewhere. I think Hello Magazine.
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Post by MadameConcorde on May 19, 2012 2:29:55 GMT -5
What work? They need not to work. They may do something here and there but it's nothing that I would call work.
The Casiraghi boys are getting very bad press locally. They are party boys without any good reputation. They are not well talked about.
I wonder how would they would end up if they were not born in that Grimaldi family. They would probably be on the street, homeless bums.
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Post by paca on May 19, 2012 3:10:58 GMT -5
Andrea has shown up on events, that does not require intelligence or work. It just requires a a functioning body. That's what trashy thought her job would like: going places and get your pic taken. And that is how Assbert does it too. Only that is not his jobdescription as per constitution. Assbert has a degree too. It's the wonders of money and I don't even know if any of them actually finished with a university degree. They did all start studying, but then they swapped town or activities. Charlotte started a prep class, but then didn't make it into the school as far as I remember. She then did some riding, stopped to work for a paper for a few months, then started to ride again, stopped and did some fashion mag thing (no idea what became of it), now she is back riding. It is all pretty irratic. Same as were she was actually living. Andrea as well. He swapped schools and towns frequently. No idea if anything ever came out of it. He started a lot of things, but no idea if he ever really finished anything. I think Pierre was the only one remaining in one place, but I assume that is due to his gf being there too. If he finished his studies with a degree, I don't know. The school he attended was private though and we all know that money buys a lot of things, including an education. Normally you can access the final thesis you need to finish a university degree. You can even varify if they are correct according to academic standards. It does happen with public persons. Just look at the yahoo boss who got sacked. A German minister had to resign and another one is still waiting...
In wikipedia it says that Andrea received his bac at the international school in Paris. That's a private school too. If it's anything like the one in MC, then consider it a banana degree. French bac is centralized and your exams are evaluated anonymously. This school does not offer the French bac, only the international one. It's the kind of school rich people send their kids who don't make it in a regular school. It's a backdoor entrance because it allows you to attend university. poor people in the US get their kids into college via a football stipendium, rich people send their kids to international schools, usually claiming it is to learn another language. They pay expensive fees for the degree. And they all get one eventually. IN MC when asked about Andreas education, you usually get rolling eyes from people who know about it. He is considered a lightweight. And that is when they have sth nice to say.
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Post by paca on May 19, 2012 3:15:45 GMT -5
What work? They need not to work. They may do something here and there but it's nothing that I would call work. The Casiraghi boys are getting very bad press locally. They are party boys without any good reputation. They are not well talked about. I wonder how would they would end up if they were not born in that Grimaldi family. They would probably be on the street, homeless bums. I didn't hear anything nice about them locally either. Only that Caro that they caused Caro some headaches and that she tried to get them somehow through school. Especially Andrea.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2012 5:24:01 GMT -5
What is trashy wasting for time in Monaco...... 
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Post by MadameConcorde on May 19, 2012 11:25:45 GMT -5
What is trashy wasting for time in Monaco......  I don't see her leaving any time soon. I guess she must be convenient for him. He keeps her up at Roc Agel, a nice upkeep with all the imaginable facilities, she has a driver with a 24/24 bodyguard (they must be scared that she escapes again) a beautiful pool, an amazing view, a personal chef, maid, secretary on call... everything. She has a time table of official/other events/travels she must participate to with hubby. Whenever she is needed... ring ring... chauffeur pick-up and there she goes. The rest of the time... to each his/her own. I guess this is what she thinks is an ideal lifestyle. 
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Post by paca on May 19, 2012 11:40:00 GMT -5
When you don't have a brain, it probably is. Plus you forgot to mention that she has heaps of people around her sucking up to her, telling her how great and beautiful and talented and whatever she wants to hear, is. That is what really keeps her there. That and the likes of Bunte.
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Post by grimnir on May 20, 2012 9:19:42 GMT -5
I wondered about that: why does she live at Roc Agel if she has just spend millions on redecorating the palace? Or why does she redecorates the palace (or pays someone to do it for her) in African style and then goes off to live somewhere else? Seems pretty pointless. Wouldn't she have been better off redecorating Roc Agel or the Russian Dacha? Or the spare room kept for her in her parent's place in La Turbie? Oh sorry, I forgot. Logic doesn't come into it. Silly me. Has the baby been born yet? 
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Post by mrszinck on May 20, 2012 9:50:47 GMT -5
LOL!
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Post by paca on May 20, 2012 9:51:02 GMT -5
She did redecorate Roc Agel. Remember she had Bunte report where she bought her lamps? I don't think the palace has been redone yet. Besides it would only concern the private quarters and who would get to see that? It's not like Mary and Fredrick. They got to redo the entire place. They won't let her do that in MC.
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Post by royalpauper on May 20, 2012 10:15:30 GMT -5
I hope so not! If they are smart they would not let her to redecorate even the private quarters...especially since she doesn't live there.  I am surprised they let her redecorate Roc Agel, but then again it was in need of up dating and she was really not the one redecorating it. The Palace had to approve the interior designer...and his work.
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Post by MyAdia on May 20, 2012 11:14:27 GMT -5
She did redecorate Roc Agel. Remember she had Bunte report where she bought her lamps? I don't think the palace has been redone yet. Besides it would only concern the private quarters and who would get to see that? It's not like Mary and Fredrick. They got to redo the entire place. They won't let her do that in MC. Also, Albert's attorney, Lacoste, mentioned Charlene redecorating Roc Agel in an interview he did to try to soften the blow after Charlene's "piss on Monaco since she now got the ring" Tatler interview. Also, Charlene herself referred to Roc Agel as "our country home" in interviews even before she was engaged. Charlene's boldness and crassness is not as amazing to me as the fact that her actions were always and only done with Albert's acceptance - which truly makes him he biggst jackass in Monaco.
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