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Post by hibou on Mar 24, 2013 13:10:54 GMT -5
People interpret this now as a sign that Andrea doesn´t wants to be a Prince and Albert will have his own child (or can have children), so no regal name needed. Was Grace a typical name for a Princess? No. Charlene, hell no! LOl all true, but I wonder if Sacha will be his "nick name" as paca suggests the more formal Alexandre. I also wonder how many HSH of Monaco were actually born in Monaco? I bet not many. I think the child being born in London as opposed to Paris must have more meaning for Tatiana than for the Grimaldi clan. I don't think it's a big deal unless they had been married. Plus how awkward would it have been for Albert the soverign to have an heir born when he hasn't produced one himself. I think Caroline knows what she's doing and Tatiana is no dummy. Although the nay-sayers said she got pregnant to keep Andre and that they had broken up. JMO
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2013 13:17:06 GMT -5
The palais has nothing at their website. Form beginning the info has been given to the media since the engagement and pregnancy.
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Post by paca on Mar 24, 2013 14:01:55 GMT -5
People interpret this now as a sign that Andrea doesn´t wants to be a Prince and Albert will have his own child (or can have children), so no regal name needed. Was Grace a typical name for a Princess? No. Charlene, hell no! LOl all true, but I wonder if Sacha will be his "nick name" as paca suggests the more formal Alexandre. I also wonder how many HSH of Monaco were actually born in Monaco? I bet not many. I think the child being born in London as opposed to Paris must have more meaning for Tatiana than for the Grimaldi clan. I don't think it's a big deal unless they had been married. Plus how awkward would it have been for Albert the soverign to have an heir born when he hasn't produced one himself. I think Caroline knows what she's doing and Tatiana is no dummy. Although the nay-sayers said she got pregnant to keep Andre and that they had broken up. JMO My son had his nickname before we got out of hospital. And the French tend to go a lot for nicknames. But we will see. To be heir to MC, the child can be born anywhere. It's the bloodlink which is important. A lot of Grimaldi heirs were born in Paris and Rainiers grandfather was bron in Germany. So nothing wrong there. As to Tatiana getting pregnant to keep Andrea, well, if the were broken up, they looked happier broken up then Albert and trashy being together. I think there was at some point a break, maybe even more then once, but don't forget how long they have been together. They were very young and I find that rather normal. But she didn't get pregnant via invitro. ANdrea had his share in it, so I don't see a problem there. Also she has always said how she sees her future and I suspect that she discussed it with ANdrea. Besides they will have a nanny and other staff, so it's not like they can't go on living as they did. To them a child will not mean as significant a change as it does for many other women. Also to continue her work and life as she is used to it, will be easier for her then for regular women. And that means that Andreas life won't change that much either. It will be interesting to see what he will be like as a father, especially since he didn't have a role model there.
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Post by maxima25 on Mar 24, 2013 14:38:08 GMT -5
I would name my dog Sacha, sorry. For me it´s clear Andrea does not have the least intention to become a prince. He never had. Maybe they should try with Pierre, who is more involved in the principality matters.
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Post by paca on Mar 24, 2013 16:48:41 GMT -5
well, let's just let them get married first and the kid grow up. WHo knows how he will turn out and if he will have any interest in MC. By then things might be entirely different as well. I think for now most important is how things turn out with Albert. As long as he is alive, the child can grow up in peace and quiet. No need to destroy another live with false expectations. Look what happened to de Massy.
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Post by hibou on Mar 24, 2013 17:14:31 GMT -5
well, let's just let them get married first and the kid grow up. WHo knows how he will turn out and if he will have any interest in MC. By then things might be entirely different as well. I think for now most important is how things turn out with Albert. As long as he is alive, the child can grow up in peace and quiet. No need to destroy another live with false expectations. Look what happened to de Massy. True, but you should see the sugars convinced because the child wasn't born in Monaco that it's proof Andrea doesn't want the throne. I don't think it matters because Caroline has 3 other kids should she become Sovereign. I also think you hit on something important. May be by design they are leaving the option open so that Andrea's child isn't under the media glare and can be a child and not have to worry about all the adult stuff going on around him.
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Post by paca on Mar 24, 2013 17:29:01 GMT -5
Caro was very protective with her kids and I believ that Andrea and Tatiana will do the same. They will show for certain occasions, but other then that they will try to fly under the radar. Which is not a bad thing. And we know from Albert and DSK what a childhood in MC does to a boy. I am glad to have mine out of there. MC is not a good place for children to grow up. Especially not when there are plenty of people to suck up to you.
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Post by paca on Mar 24, 2013 19:39:07 GMT -5
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Post by MadameConcorde on Mar 25, 2013 6:48:30 GMT -5
I wonder if Sacha will be his "nick name" Stephan Bern seems to have unveiled the child's name on his twitter account. I don't see why Sacha should just be a nickname. It is a common name in France - although it is not from French origin but think of all the Kevins and other foreign names given to French children. It has become very fashionable, including impossible or even ridiculous names. Quote: Au Bal de la Rose du Rocher, à Monaco, la princesse Caroline confie ce soir que son premier petit-fils, né jeudi 21 mars, se prénomme Sacha — stéphane Bern (@bernstephane) March 23, 2013 www.public.fr/News/Caroline-de-Monaco-grand-mere-decouvrez-le-prenom-de-son-petit-fils-387388I am more concerned about bank runs and an upcoming Euro-zone breakup and Euro crash than about these facetious mega-rich royals. They will always be safe with their assets protected while we the People could be losing all our savings from one day to the next at the bankster's whims.
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Post by refia on Mar 25, 2013 10:29:02 GMT -5
That´s true though, but what can one do? A major system change is needed, but people fear to do anything, because they have to look to survive. Did you read this one? Heseltine questions 'national will to improve economy'www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21920466 Lack of national will... ___ Caroline and Pierre arriving on Friday at the Nice airport imgur.com/a/xjYOt#0
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Post by paca on Mar 25, 2013 10:46:42 GMT -5
well, Cyprus just failed with their wash your money here system, but they had their own banks. MC doesn't really have big banks that are solely tied to MC. It would take banks worldwide to collapse to have a major impact on MC. Their problem will be all luxury directed business. Their realestate will drop significantly as it already has been. Hotels will nedd to dump prices, which they have been doing for years now. So that'll get even worse. Not sure how F1 will be doing this year. It has been bringing in the kind of money it used to. So all major projects that have been designed to attract the rich will be falling flat on their faces. I have been saying for years that they need to raise the standard of living for locals and make it attractive for people in the region. They need a strong basis they can fall back on when times are rough. NOw the rich are no longer coming (as can be seen at the roseball) and by the time they could afford it again, MC will be dead and no one will care anymore. They totally mismanaged the place and where guided by short term strategy, hoping that others will managethings for them as it has been done in the past. They never had a plan B, C or D. And that's what will be breaking their necks.
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Post by paca on Mar 25, 2013 10:52:58 GMT -5
Nice to see that Caro get's to use the new jet too....though a regular flight would have cost less....
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Post by agentf on Mar 25, 2013 18:58:59 GMT -5
Isn't Sasha a nickname for Alexandre? I certainly hope so
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Post by paca on Mar 25, 2013 20:16:27 GMT -5
yup, but these days people tend to give what used to be nicknames as proper names. So just wait until he is officially registered.
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Post by emmeline on Mar 26, 2013 11:14:58 GMT -5
There are pics of Andrea and Tatiana in Brunopress, leaving the Maternity Hospital in London. Unfortunately, i can't enlarge the pics, or have access to them.
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Post by refia on Mar 26, 2013 11:22:20 GMT -5
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Post by paca on Mar 26, 2013 11:30:17 GMT -5
hmmm, the only one smiling is Caro. The rest look tired and annoyed. Seems that Caro is intend of being a very involved granny. Wonder where they intend to live now.
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Post by refia on Mar 26, 2013 11:38:34 GMT -5
I think I wouldn´t be different, pushing several pounds out of you ;D Andrea looks like always tbh.
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Post by paca on Mar 26, 2013 11:55:47 GMT -5
so what did ANdrea push out of himself then? Caro really has a glow, which makes her look younger. I like that she is there to help them get started and get to know the new member of the family. Wonder when Albert will visit, seeing that he is for now an heir. I also remember that he travelled to Austria to see Alex together with Rainier. So IMO he should make an effort there too. Not expecting to see trashy, but he should go, if only to keep rumours at bay.
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Post by refia on Mar 26, 2013 12:42:24 GMT -5
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