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Post by paca on Apr 30, 2013 17:45:52 GMT -5
Maxima is natural and wholesome. She is naturally charismatic. I also like that she is not pretending to age by hiding her wrinkles. I also liked how she always had an eye on everything and everyone around her, trying to make everyone comfortable, her husband, mother in law children and being dignified and regal at the same time. One journalist related a little story about bumping into them in MC just hours before the terrible wedding. They were both dressed to go for a swim, very relaxed and at ease, waving friendly towards the journalist whom they thought to be a fan. He said they were so comfortable and cool about everything, which surprised him as everyone else wasn't and it was just 3hrs before they had to go into that palace sauna... I don't think that Kate would gather so much attention if she would be married to any other Royal. She is pretty , but she is no beauty. She is also way too thin, her make up is rather provincial and to be honest, she dresses too old for her age. She dresses like a woman in her late 30s early 40s, not a woman in her early 30s. It all looks nice and appropriate, but mostly like sth her mom or Camilla could wear.
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Post by agentf on Apr 30, 2013 19:37:22 GMT -5
Kate didn't graduate from the cute stage. Her dresses are always too short, whatever she wears. Maxima is a woman many can relate to in a way, and also not, but in good measure. Speaking of wrinkles, I finally went for my acupuncture facelift. It's an ongoing process but with visible results after the first treatment. My frown line was almost gone in one swoop. My second treatment was a bit wasted; they put sad New Age music and I got all teary - LOL It stung! And I got all puffy from trying not to cry, I almost ejected those suckers! I must remember to remind them to change the tunes. ;D
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Post by paca on May 1, 2013 4:51:28 GMT -5
Maxima is a woman who had a live and a job before she met her prince. SHe never was the appendix of her husband. Sorry, but Kate would be nothing without Will. She doesn't stand for anything and is only armcandy. Kate waited forever with no perspective of her own. Maxima didn't wait. SHe worked. Maxima is a modern, independent woman who is a partner to her husband and forms a team with him. I am pretty sure that he spends as much time with the kids as she does. They share the load. Kate is not a modern woman. SHe is still the 50s version of what a woman ought to be like. So is Mary. I think Mette Marit is more modern as well. Kate, Mary and Letizia are the what princesses used to be expected to be like. Maxima is different. SHe can be an example to other modern women. And the couple she forms with her husband is a modern couple too. In all this Maxima also knows that she can not outshine her husband. She made it clear when asked about her father, that he had no place there and that it was her husbands big day. And that is how she behaved too. On the balcon she immediately stepped away from Beatrix and her son to give them the biggest room for her last big appearance, as if to make sure to not be in the picture. And it was Beatrix who got her back and pulled her in and her looks showed clearly that she appreciated MAximas understanding. It's these little bits that show that Maxima knows her place. SHe knows that she can outshine all off them any day, but she chose not to. SHe wore 3 different outfit, which with Diana would have put Charles way into the background. But Maxima knew exactly how to be there, shine and still make sure that it was her husbands day. And you could tell that he was glad to have her by his side.
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Post by MadameConcorde on May 1, 2013 8:31:34 GMT -5
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Post by agentf on May 1, 2013 9:11:50 GMT -5
Mme C, we can count on you for the reality check LOL
It's cheap that the Brits would bring it up now, especially since they can't compete in even bringing together such an illustrious assembly in what looks like a family affair.
If I recall, the group was begun by the Netherlands. What is has evolved into, ... But the British Crown has its own éminences grises and they're not Christian. They also use the media to influence, while they try to change a country's religion be sending in their daughters to marry Gentiles. That said, I'm not going to let this event be highjacked and I'm going to switch off politics just to continue to bask in the afterglow of the coronation. After all, if it was good enough for Prince Charles...
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Post by agentf on May 1, 2013 10:35:23 GMT -5
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Post by refia on May 1, 2013 17:10:05 GMT -5
I just thought about the whole stuff "much ado about nothing", so pointless.
WA is boring and smug, Maxima couldn´t hide her victory grin.
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Post by bobolin on May 1, 2013 19:29:23 GMT -5
I don't think it was a "victory grin", I think she was very nervous and tearful. She has known she started dating the guy, that if she married him, she would be a queen consort or princess consort. I like it. I feel bad for Albert, why did he go alone? Where was the wife?
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Post by paca on May 2, 2013 1:58:07 GMT -5
I think Maxima was fine. Very warm, very emotional at times. NOthing wrong with her. The only person with a victory grin has always been trashy. You can always tell by her look that she feels she showed people. And she does it in a very bitchy kind of way. I don't think that you can hold it against Maxima to smile and be happy for her husband and celebrate with her country. Had she not smiled and looked as sour as trashy always does, then you would have had reason for criticism. Theonly thing wrong with Maxima is her father, and there is nothing she can do about it. She is dealing with it appropriately. It is him who would have to come forward and explain himself. She is still his daughter and she is allowed to love him. Even if she doesn't agree with what he did.
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Post by mrszinck on May 2, 2013 9:13:58 GMT -5
I agree with you, paca and 90% of the Dutch love the DRF  and how much love Trashy? 2 friends? ;D |
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Post by MadameConcorde on May 4, 2013 2:52:46 GMT -5
I think Maxima was fine. Very warm, very emotional at times. She is an Argentinian, not Dutch! I remember the tango during the wedding ceremony in church. She was really emotional listening to that genius music! I found it on Youtube www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYU-n7Ket-cand that is not Dutch. It's Argentina, the only country with a Pope and a Queen. |
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Post by paca on May 4, 2013 7:59:27 GMT -5
So she was born Argentinian, but she no longer holds an Argentinian passport. And in the way she is by temperament, she seems to fit the Dutch just fine. SO she still likes tango and she visits there. I can not see anything wrong with that. I really don't see the problem you are having other then that you keep sounding rather racists on many occasions. Is there anyone who can measure up in your opinion? I suppose if she was from Corsica and had a bunch of bombthrowing relatives in her family tree you'd find that acceptable and laudable, although those people are just a bunch of criminals no better then Italian or Russian mafia. Everyone knows where Maxima and Franciscus are coming from and the history of their country. Maxima hasn't done anything wrong at all and I don't think there is anything wrong with her being a queen now. She has dealt openly with her fathers past and stated convincingly what she thinks of it. What do you want her to do? Kill her father? Herself? Divorce Willem, because she is Argentinian? All I can see in your comment is that you have some jealousy that by chance an Argentinian has been elected pope and another has become queen. So? since she married Willem it was clear that she would be queen and that in the same year an Argentian gets elected pope is coincidence. If it bothers you to have an Argentinian pope, then as a Catholic you are free to leave the church. And no one forces you to travel to Holland if you dislike them to have a queen who hails from Argentina. She is doing a good job and if she wasn't, the Dutch wouldn't like her as much as they do. The mere fact that they ike her better then any born Royal should tell you sth. And other then in England or in MC, when the Dutch royals do sth wrong, then parliament does discuss it and hold them accountable. Unlike other Royals, the Dutch Royals can not do as they please. Even a private matter like building a house can become a political matter. And they react to it and remedy their faults. I think that makes them among European Royalty the most likeable and least arrogant ones. Not like MC or Spain.
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Post by agentf on May 4, 2013 10:22:58 GMT -5
Pax, I think I come across as the xenophobic one  However, in truth, I apply the same critiques to myself. I get nombrilistic a LOT! And patriotic a lot. I think Mme C lives the reality as one if not the lone Frenchwoman here and therefore it's more raw. There's an outrage that's probably found in each culture, towards the others. Like I always say though, to air it out is better than to go on conniving against other people. “Sticks and stones may break your bones when there's anger to impart. Spiteful words can hurt your feelings but silence breaks your heart. Anger is as a stone cast into a wasp's nest.” |
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Post by MadameConcorde on May 5, 2013 4:50:07 GMT -5
So she was born Argentinian, but she no longer holds an Argentinian passport. And in the way she is by temperament, she seems to fit the Dutch just fine. SO she still likes tango and she visits there. I can not see anything wrong with that. I really don't see the problem you are having other then that you keep sounding rather racists on many occasions. Is there anyone who can measure up in your opinion? I suppose if she was from Corsica and had a bunch of bombthrowing relatives in her family tree you'd find that acceptable and laudable, although those people are just a bunch of criminals no better then Italian or Russian mafia. Everyone knows where Maxima and Franciscus are coming from and the history of their country. Maxima hasn't done anything wrong at all and I don't think there is anything wrong with her being a queen now. She has dealt openly with her fathers past and stated convincingly what she thinks of it. What do you want her to do? Kill her father? Herself? Divorce Willem, because she is Argentinian? All I can see in your comment is that you have some jealousy that by chance an Argentinian has been elected pope and another has become queen. So? since she married Willem it was clear that she would be queen and that in the same year an Argentian gets elected pope is coincidence. If it bothers you to have an Argentinian pope, then as a Catholic you are free to leave the church. And no one forces you to travel to Holland if you dislike them to have a queen who hails from Argentina. She is doing a good job and if she wasn't, the Dutch wouldn't like her as much as they do. The mere fact that they ike her better then any born Royal should tell you sth. And other then in England or in MC, when the Dutch royals do sth wrong, then parliament does discuss it and hold them accountable. Unlike other Royals, the Dutch Royals can not do as they please. Even a private matter like building a house can become a political matter. And they react to it and remedy their faults. I think that makes them among European Royalty the most likeable and least arrogant ones. Not like MC or Spain. You totally misinterpreted my post, 100%. I love Argentina. Such a fantastic country. Buenos Aires is definitely the Paris of South America. The Buenos Aires Opera House was built by Charles Garnier, the same architect who built the Opera de Paris and the Opera de Monte Carlo. I have made a number of visits there and I know I will go again. I feel at home in Argentina. I do just as fine in Spanish the same as English or French or Italian or a couple more. I had Astor Piazzolla as a neighbour in Paris. I knew him well until one day he went home never to return... only because he died. I listen to my favourite Buenos Aires and Rosario radio stations every day, all the time, thanks to the Internet. I happened to meet Jorge Bergoglio in person, then Archbishop of Buenos Aires, later to be made a Pope. He is a very fine man. I only wish we had more like him. I wish him a long life and good health. I also wish the same to his predecessor Pope Ratzinger. I am definitely not royalist/monarchist (there are so few in this world that are really deserving of their titles) but I am certainly NOT racist. I am not envious of any King or Queen, Prince or Princess. I would not want to be in their shoes for anything in the world. |
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Post by agentf on May 5, 2013 11:06:20 GMT -5
Well if anyone thought you were the second coming of Napoleon Bonaparte, there is somewhere a collective sigh of relief! ;D |
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Post by grimnir on May 13, 2013 5:22:54 GMT -5
So she was born Argentinian, but she no longer holds an Argentinian passport. She still does. The excuse is that Argentia doesn't allow its citizens to give up their passports. Apparently you simply can't walk into Mordor hand in your passport and nationality. Same with Turkey and several other countries. And on a competely different subject: orderofsplendor.blogspot.nl/2013/05/the-dutch-inauguration-orders-and-gents.html summary of the orders being worn on the event. Only the highest ones get a mention and Wax's elfstedenkruisje (skating medal) doesn't even get a mention. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2013 6:26:54 GMT -5
I would make a contrasted question that how it come CC was either on the coronation of PA in Monaco?
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Post by MadameConcorde on Jun 13, 2013 14:40:03 GMT -5
New Dutch King and Queen are talking airplanes! :-) Dream schemes for the Kingdom of the Netherlands. Concepts designed by Lila Design June 11, 2013 - During their official state visit to Germany, His Majesty King Willem-Alexander and Queen Máxima got a surprise by one of the industries they visited (see photo above). It was the hand over of an Airbus A380 scale model with the 'dream scheme'-concept of Lila Design. The scale model was arranged by Lupa Aircraft Models. We feel very, very honoured and proud that the King and Queen got this present and got acquainted with our design concept. Of course this A380 was a symbolic gift. The Fokker 70 or maybe better, for example an Airbus A319CJ, will fit better within Dutch royal and government flight operations. www.liladesign.com/news/news.htmlJudging by the look on the face of his wife... ''Oh please, honey, can we have one of those?'' :-) |
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Post by MadameConcorde on Aug 3, 2013 6:16:01 GMT -5
MAXIMA : "THE QUEEN" FROM ARGENTINA TO THE NETHERLANDS HOMMAGE www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0X3_g4Q5xgBorn Máxima Zorreguieta Cerruti in Buenos Aires, Argentina, on 17 May 1971, Princess Máxima is the daughter of Jorge Zorreguieta (born 1928) and his second wife, María del Carmen Cerruti Carricart (born 1944). She has two brothers, a sister and three half-sisters by her father's first wife, Marta López Gil. She studied at Northlands School in Argentina and worked as an investment banker before graduating with a degree in Economics from the Universidad Católica Argentina in 1995. She subsequently worked for large international finance companies in Argentina, New York and Brussels. Through her father, she is a descendant of King Afonso III of Portugal and his son King Denis of Portugal and many noble families of the Iberian Peninsula. She is also a descendant of Túpac Huallpa, a puppet Inca Emperor. On request of the Dutch Parliament, Michiel Baud, a Dutch professor in Latin American studies, carried out an inquiry into the involvement of Zorreguieta in the Dirty War. Although Zorreguieta claimed that, as a civilian, he was unaware of the Dirty War while he was a cabinet minister, Baud concluded that it would have been unlikely for a person in such a powerful position in the government to be unaware of it. However, Baud's research determined that Máxima's father had not been directly involved with the many deaths during that period. Even so, his possible presence at the royal wedding was debated for several months, and eventually, he did not attend the wedding. Approval for the marriage was granted by the Dutch parliament (as necessary by law for the Prince of Orange to remain heir to the throne), but Máxima's parents were not invited to attend the wedding.. (Wikipedia) P.S.: The appearence of the Real Family is in the Concertgebow of Amsterdam,few days ago,in the concert of the 125th anniversary of the Concertgebow. |
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However, in truth, I apply the same critiques to myself. I get nombrilistic a LOT! And patriotic a lot. I think Mme C lives the reality as one if not the lone Frenchwoman here and therefore it's more raw. There's an outrage that's probably found in each culture, towards the others. Like I always say though, to air it out is better than to go on conniving against other people.