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Post by agentf on Mar 26, 2021 13:19:02 GMT -5
Maybe lucky but still near the clutches of the political jambettist. I hope Harry's father is the one who brokered that job when said jambettist was in London so that some guardrails might exist but good luck with that. Someone commented that donation$ land you that executive job title and a cover to move money. I'm neither versed or overly interested. Seeing their approval rating shift to the US, this may very well be the growing pains of some misguided charm offensive/wider operation and/or placing MM in US politics could potentially be useful later to his dad. Who knows. I feel for William and Catherine. guess h is lucky he is not an arab prince as will would either have to have him killed or thrown in prison. Somewhat Shakespearean over there, though I doubt H ever read one of them, so he is living in ignorant bliss. btw Albert has commented and disapproved. IMO the ruler of dubai deserves as much benefit of the doubt as the saudi crown prince over his murders. Besides he doesn't care or he would just let his daughters go and have them earn their own money. That would probably be a greater punishment for them, then being locked up in a golden cage. When they have to clean other peoples floors, they will crawl back. If not, good for them. ANd come to that the way some of these arab princesses have treated thir staff or hotel staff in Europe, does no make me empathise that much. I do think though that when they want to buy weapons from us, we need to be considering their politics with regards to women, human rights and fighting war in Jemen. Though probably in a different order. Btw, since MM never bothered discussing h's nazi outfit, maybe she didn't see it as racist and can't be bothered with antisemitism. I never heard her speak out about that and there was plenty of talk about it during her time in the UK with Labour etc. I'd love to see her quizzed about Harrys nazi outfit and his family links to Nazis. Obviously she has an opinion on everything, let's hear her on this one.
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Post by paca on Mar 26, 2021 16:24:43 GMT -5
I don't see how any of this could benefit Charles. He only has limited power. If anything the PM would be involved, but I doubt it. If mm wants to get into politics, they have to give up their titles, otherwise taking office might be against the constitution. With her moaning that much about Archie not being titled, I don't see her doing that. She craves that. She even falsely claimed that she has been a princess. She never has been. She went straight to duchess. Should they give up the dukedom, she would become princess Henry, not Princess Meghan. Unlike Kate, she will never be a princess. So at least she wants to be mother to a prince. If she enters US politics, they have to give that up. For all of them. Plus h might have to become a US citizen. Not seeing it right now.
meanwhile Charles has hired a new PR guy.
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Post by agentf on Mar 27, 2021 9:52:21 GMT -5
I think Cy Vance & Laetitia James have some idea of what I mean, when Charles inherits certain baggage. Whatever it is, I think Harry was in better charge of his destiny before. He shouldn't have rushed. Whatever criticism of him never offset the love the British had for him. If anything, it made him more relatable to them. Americans won't relate to him the same way, I don't think. He might want to mend bridges with William and present a united front. Just a hunch. I don't see how any of this could benefit Charles. He only has limited power. If anything the PM would be involved, but I doubt it. If mm wants to get into politics, they have to give up their titles, otherwise taking office might be against the constitution. With her moaning that much about Archie not being titled, I don't see her doing that. She craves that. She even falsely claimed that she has been a princess. She never has been. She went straight to duchess. Should they give up the dukedom, she would become princess Henry, not Princess Meghan. Unlike Kate, she will never be a princess. So at least she wants to be mother to a prince. If she enters US politics, they have to give that up. For all of them. Plus h might have to become a US citizen. Not seeing it right now. meanwhile Charles has hired a new PR guy.
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Post by paca on Mar 27, 2021 10:40:26 GMT -5
well, apparently they will unvail dianas statue in July. So who else will be there and will anyone even pay attention to the statue?
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Post by paca on Mar 27, 2021 20:20:12 GMT -5
apparently the guy running their production company owns the rights to a movie which claims that Diana was killed by the brf.... now that sets off some questions. Was he hired to stop him from making the movie or are they surrounding themselves with creeps? I would be questioning, why someone like that would want to work for me or why I would want someone like him to work for me. Might as well hire the guy that broke into their property over xmas twice as a gardener. Or better as security. At least he knows where people like him get in....
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Post by paca on Mar 28, 2021 10:40:42 GMT -5
hm, they fell out with more friends from the UK and charities prefer not to announve their donations.... some spring cleaning. Especially the pettiness of it all.
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Post by agentf on Mar 28, 2021 18:53:37 GMT -5
Iām not seeing where that info is published, but it certainly wouldn't be healthy all around. It's emotionally tormenting and to undergo that under the scope of someone you don't know, who could be pushing your buttons and testing your reactions, there's an element of programming there, that I personally would be uncomfortable with. A friend doesn't have his hands in your bowels. A friend takes his cue from you. apparently the guy running their production company owns the rights to a movie which claims that Diana was killed by the brf.... now that sets off some questions. Was he hired to stop him from making the movie or are they surrounding themselves with creeps? I would be questioning, why someone like that would want to work for me or why I would want someone like him to work for me. Might as well hire the guy that broke into their property over xmas twice as a gardener. Or better as security. At least he knows where people like him get in....
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Post by paca on Mar 29, 2021 8:36:57 GMT -5
check the dailymail for those reports. Seeing that they so far lost their court case, they will dig up as much as they can about everyone they are surrounding themselves with. They poked the bear, now they got to live with it. Anyway I think the movie will eventually get made ad he paid a lot of money for the rights and with h and m employing him, it will look as though they are approving it, even if they are not. It will look as if qe2 ordered Diana to be killed and h finally wants the truth to come out... Enough Americans and conspiracy believers out there to buy a made up story as the truth. So much about h not doing anything to hurt his granny....
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Post by agentf on Mar 29, 2021 18:21:04 GMT -5
I don't think Harry is playing the long game or slow burn. If he were to greenlight such a project, it would be equally devastating to him. check the dailymail for those reports. Seeing that they so far lost their court case, they will dig up as much as they can about everyone they are surrounding themselves with. They poked the bear, now they got to live with it. Anyway I think the movie will eventually get made ad he paid a lot of money for the rights and with h and m employing him, it will look as though they are approving it, even if they are not. It will look as if qe2 ordered Diana to be killed and h finally wants the truth to come out... Enough Americans and conspiracy believers out there to buy a made up story as the truth. So much about h not doing anything to hurt his granny....
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Post by paca on Mar 29, 2021 19:22:35 GMT -5
of course he is not intentionally,but he does through the choices he makes and foremost his stupidity. There is another article about him trying to keep up with her and creating his own identity. Sorry, but at his age he should have well established his identity. I hate how these days we are infantilizing adults, calling women girls and men boys. Above 20 you seize to be a child. Until the mid twenties these days people can still be given a little leeway, though dressing up as a Nazi is a no no at any age. But from then on you should know yourself and own your decisions, even the bad ones. H has never addressed his racism and his nazi dress in his own words, but he accuses his entire family and their staff of racism towards his wife. He has tiptoed around admitting that he has acted racist in the past. He wants others to change, but refuses to own his own mistakes properly. On top of that he surrounds himself with people that exploited his mother, who benefitted financially from their death and who paid plenty of money to have the right to make a movie about the death of his mother and slandering his entire family as complicits in her murder. It has been well established that it was an accident and his mother could be alive had she worn a seatbelt and made sure the staff was up to their task (I believe that both brothers followed the inquest). There was one survivor who will have to live with the fact that he did not succeed to make her put on the seatbelt as it was his job and who did not ensure that the driver was sober. So why would you employ someone like that? Ignorance? In any case H is surrounded/surrounds himself with people of questionable character and motives. And the system, that he finds so dreadful, has up to now protected him from these kind of people. At least to a degree. Anyways I still don't get why people that get access are not better vetted. We saw that with Albert, with Andrew and with H. Given their abilities to get information, I just don't get why they don't protect themselves better.
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Post by agentf on Mar 30, 2021 6:47:52 GMT -5
I cannot disagree with you there. Maybe his temper made him a mark for those people. Each royal generation has its predators. Can we stop though calling him H? It's confusing. Meanwhile these hangers-on try to appeal to the degree of cool the royal tries to convey so as to not keep all people at bay. I would hope Harry's friends would look over new people. But they'd be so much efficient if a woman came between them... of course he is not intentionally,but he does through the choices he makes and foremost his stupidity. There is another article about him trying to keep up with her and creating his own identity. Sorry, but at his age he should have well established his identity. I hate how these days we are infantilizing adults, calling women girls and men boys. Above 20 you seize to be a child. Until the mid twenties these days people can still be given a little leeway, though dressing up as a Nazi is a no no at any age. But from then on you should know yourself and own your decisions, even the bad ones. H has never addressed his racism and his nazi dress in his own words, but he accuses his entire family and their staff of racism towards his wife. He has tiptoed around admitting that he has acted racist in the past. He wants others to change, but refuses to own his own mistakes properly. On top of that he surrounds himself with people that exploited his mother, who benefitted financially from their death and who paid plenty of money to have the right to make a movie about the death of his mother and slandering his entire family as complicits in her murder. It has been well established that it was an accident and his mother could be alive had she worn a seatbelt and made sure the staff was up to their task (I believe that both brothers followed the inquest). There was one survivor who will have to live with the fact that he did not succeed to make her put on the seatbelt as it was his job and who did not ensure that the driver was sober. So why would you employ someone like that? Ignorance? In any case H is surrounded/surrounds himself with people of questionable character and motives. And the system, that he finds so dreadful, has up to now protected him from these kind of people. At least to a degree. Anyways I still don't get why people that get access are not better vetted. We saw that with Albert, with Andrew and with H. Given their abilities to get information, I just don't get why they don't protect themselves better.
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Post by paca on Mar 30, 2021 9:49:31 GMT -5
his friends live an ocean away. not much they can do and many have been ditched already at the wedding for people like Oprah and George and Amal, who didn't even know them. I don't think that harry has been a good friend. Yes friendships can fizzle out and yes some may have been more suitable for a single Harry, though many are married with kids now, so they are changing too. But you don't invite them to your wedding and then dump them or celebrities. It surely wasn't about money or space. That is a gesture to show someone their place. If mm was of that opinion, then Harry should have stood up for them. You don't do that to lifelong friends. Either invite them or don't, but this sort of thing is bad character. Had I been one of those friends, I wouldn't have attended at all and I would have made my reasons clear on my rsvp, if I had even bothered to answer. Of course mm probably accused them of racism for not being their friends, but he has to realize that not everyone who dislikes his wife is a racist. people have the right to criticize her with out being called racist for doing so. Only if you allow people from minorities to be criticised for their actions and characters just like everyone else, you are treating them as equals. Hiding behind race or religion to protect you from criticism is similar to claiming that prostitutes can't be raped and women who contradict a man deserve to be beaten to bits.
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Post by agentf on Mar 30, 2021 17:25:52 GMT -5
It was really tacky to invite his friends to the church ceremony but not to the evening festivities. On the basis alone that Harry's been to most of their weddings as a full guest. It's beyond gauche. That was the harbinger of things to come, such as the clandestine departure; or the lack of civility towards fraternizing Archie with his family; the broken promises about their deal with QE2; the neverending parting shots and innuendos; the putdowns about the taxfunded wedding or reneging on the taxfunded cottage... You'd think Harry had been raised by savages with that kind of disconnect from basic decency. Why wait until you're 40 (and you've milked it) to decide that family and friends' love and caring are simply too oppressive for you!?! That you need to follow a rude and ungrateful navel-gazer? Is it because he feels that's what he truly was all along? Because until now, British people loved him in spite of what he may have felt. Why question that, when he needs their support more than ever going forward. I don't know. But it's a private matter and he needs to keep it more private. his friends live an ocean away. not much they can do and many have been ditched already at the wedding for people like Oprah and George and Amal, who didn't even know them. I don't think that harry has been a good friend. Yes friendships can fizzle out and yes some may have been more suitable for a single Harry, though many are married with kids now, so they are changing too. But you don't invite them to your wedding and then dump them or celebrities. It surely wasn't about money or space. That is a gesture to show someone their place. If mm was of that opinion, then Harry should have stood up for them. You don't do that to lifelong friends. Either invite them or don't, but this sort of thing is bad character. Had I been one of those friends, I wouldn't have attended at all and I would have made my reasons clear on my rsvp, if I had even bothered to answer. Of course mm probably accused them of racism for not being their friends, but he has to realize that not everyone who dislikes his wife is a racist. people have the right to criticize her with out being called racist for doing so. Only if you allow people from minorities to be criticised for their actions and characters just like everyone else, you are treating them as equals. Hiding behind race or religion to protect you from criticism is similar to claiming that prostitutes can't be raped and women who contradict a man deserve to be beaten to bits.
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Post by paca on Mar 30, 2021 19:00:09 GMT -5
Maybe that's why the British press and people are so harsh on him. They have been forever forgiving his bad behaviour. Always with the 12 year old kid walking behind his mothers casket in mind. And yes he can be charming if he wants to. But that is the point. As an adult and a royal it is not about when you want to. It's about when you're called upon to represent the queen. I think his family has been like that too. Maybe this backlash is about disappointment, not for how he is behaving now, but for realizing that he has always been that way. He probably wouldn't have written a single ty letter in his life, if his parents hadn't made him. Others made him act decent in spite of himself. He complains about having had to walk behind his mums casket, but what would have been the alternative? It was part of the grieving process and had Charles decided not have his sons do it, they would be wining about that. Surely the BRF don't seem to be versed in communicating, so talking with the children about what was being planned and how they wanted to participate might have been a better way to proceed, but honestly I think they would have regretted not doing it more than doing it. IMO Charles handled Diana's passing suprisingly decent given how she slandered him and people around him. People keep forgetting, that Diana had a rather nasty side to her. While I studied in London, people were pretty fed up with her and her antics. She was nowhere near the peoples princess. People were going: get divorced already. Stop this. Get over that he desn't love you. Happens to everyone. What we read in papers today is fiction. I think the reason why will is so into mental health, also for children, is that he was older and he saw that his mother had issues and she never got herself the treatment she needed, nor did the children she damaged on the way. She didn't care how her children would feel about how she portrayed Charles in public. I am certain in private they heard even worse. She seems to have had mood swings and was probably rather difficult to live with. What is out in the open is usually a light version of what really goes on. I have said it before and I am convinced, that had Diana lived, she would have damaged her kids way more than her death did. They probably wouldn't be on speaking terms with her, as Diana was with her own mother Frances for a good part of her life. I think, if Harry acknowledged more who his mother really was as a person, he would find it easier to heal. Also I believe that a lot of anger he has for his mother, is now directed in all sorts of directions. Maybe he should visit her grave and have a shout out with her over all the things he is angry about with her. I think giving your anger a direction and putting it where it belongs, is a much better way forward. Harryis too old to continue to be an angry young man, angry at everyone because the one person he really is angry with is no longer there. And admitting that he is angry with her does not deminish his love for her.
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Post by paca on Mar 31, 2021 8:39:51 GMT -5
so finally the abc is setting the record straight about that wedding claim. He had a pastoral meeting with them in their backyard. He even says that it would have been a criminal offence had he signed the marriage papers knowing that they were already married 3 days before. So all people involved havenow admitted that meghan lied. She wanted to give oprah an exclusive and she lied. Nothing she says from now on can be taken at face value anymore. She keeps complaining about clickbait. Her lies to Oprah are exactly the same thing. So is Harry now resigning fromhis new job or does he officially point fingers at mm and himself now in his new position that is making him millions... hope the trolls will flood his employers with request for answers. See how long they think his face is a good look on their web page.
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Post by paca on Mar 31, 2021 9:25:48 GMT -5
Is it just me or has the queen lost a significant amount of weight? Her coat seems to be unusually ill fitting. At her age that kind of weightloss is not a good sign. It might explain the puppies too. I thought that she was resolved not to get new ones at her age. I suppose someone got worried about her and persuaded her anyways. I also suppose that same person will be looking after them, should she die before them. worrying about Philip and the hassle about Harry seem to be taking a toll. Harry better take a good look at granny, then pick up the phone and apollogize. Publicly too.
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Post by agentf on Mar 31, 2021 12:28:17 GMT -5
I think I and surely many would feel better if he just apologized to his grandmother. My God. The toll on anyone! Is it just me or has the queen lost a significant amount of weight? Her coat seems to be unusually ill fitting. At her age that kind of weightloss is not a good sign. It might explain the puppies too. I thought that she was resolved not to get new ones at her age. I suppose someone got worried about her and persuaded her anyways. I also suppose that same person will be looking after them, should she die before them. worrying about Philip and the hassle about Harry seem to be taking a toll. Harry better take a good look at granny, then pick up the phone and apollogize. Publicly too.
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Post by paca on Mar 31, 2021 13:42:38 GMT -5
yes and quick. She puts on a smile and does her duty, but she looks frail. Obviously for her age she is still in good shape, but you can tell that it has been taken its toll on her. Hopefully philip is on the mend. God forbid if anything would happen to him now. I don't think that she would take it well at all. Hopefully those puppies will cheer her up.
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Post by paca on Mar 31, 2021 16:36:28 GMT -5
Lady c has named Anne as the one mm targeted on Oprah. I can see Anne voicing concerns about mm. She is smart and like her father she talks straight. Someone like her sees right through someone like mm. What I don't see with Anne is racism. I think she is rather laid back. As long as you are working hard and show respect, mm could be a flying elephant with pink and green stripes. Anne is possibly the smartest of QE2 kids. She has plenty of experience with people and she can spot their motives. Someone working as much as she is for her family, she would obviously be protective of the institution as well as the family. I also think that she is well aware how dumb and foolish Harry is and how poor his judgement is. MM turned that into racism as she does with any criticism of her.
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Post by agentf on Apr 1, 2021 13:25:27 GMT -5
Never count my bestie down. šš» yes and quick. She puts on a smile and does her duty, but she looks frail. Obviously for her age she is still in good shape, but you can tell that it has been taken its toll on her. Hopefully philip is on the mend. God forbid if anything would happen to him now. I don't think that she would take it well at all. Hopefully those puppies will cheer her up.
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