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Post by agentf on Aug 19, 2019 21:52:27 GMT -5
Pity to start on the topic of Epstein but I'm sorry I even brought it up. Sorry, bestie. Let me say that a guy who tries to normalize his relationship to a Koo Stark is not a serial user of a pimp and more of a romantic but rather, he's exactly the trophy these con guys go for, for insurance. In the twisted minds of some boastful people such as I've had to listen to at times, who envy or hate bluebloods out of self-loathing or self-consciousness and will try anything to topple one, it's a boon to attract one into their orbit. They will hover where they know they'll rub elbows with them in their down time, catch them with their guard down and work them. Whether a person like Andrew would just want to be one of the guys, or have illusions like any regular guy - the conman is not resting or letting his own guard down. He's calculating. With the BRF, I think you can go back to George V, I think, for being compromised by the company one kept. It doesn't make Andrew a savvy degenerate like Epstein. It makes for a guy who thought his friends liked him and that women were sincere or spontaneous, when they were actually groomed or paid. It's misery on another level.
Oh, and btw, cracked neck bones from a noose doesn't mean Epstein had no help. I would ask those whose fathers stayed in jails and who keep pardoning criminals, and who consider the DoJ and its head as their pet, to submit to a polygraph...
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Post by tops on Aug 26, 2019 5:13:16 GMT -5
Pity to start on the topic of Epstein but I'm sorry I even brought it up. Sorry, bestie. Let me say that a guy who tries to normalize his relationship to a Koo Stark is not a serial user of a pimp and more of a romantic but rather, he's exactly the trophy these con guys go for, for insurance. In the twisted minds of some boastful people such as I've had to listen to at times, who envy or hate bluebloods out of self-loathing or self-consciousness and will try anything to topple one, it's a boon to attract one into their orbit. They will hover where they know they'll rub elbows with them in their down time, catch them with their guard down and work them. Whether a person like Andrew would just want to be one of the guys, or have illusions like any regular guy - the conman is not resting or letting his own guard down. He's calculating. With the BRF, I think you can go back to George V, I think, for being compromised by the company one kept. It doesn't make Andrew a savvy degenerate like Epstein. It makes for a guy who thought his friends liked him and that women were sincere or spontaneous, when they were actually groomed or paid. It's misery on another level. Oh, and btw, cracked neck bones from a noose doesn't mean Epstein had no help. I would ask those whose fathers stayed in jails and who keep pardoning criminals, and who consider the DoJ and its head as their pet, to submit to a polygraph... Let's drag in Bill Clinton for a polygraph who has more to lose than anyone. Oh, the Epstein's attorneys who know a lot, too. And how about Madame Ghislaine Maxwell who was his best friend and "acquisition" partner (who shopped the social scenes of USA and UK for clients). |
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Post by agentf on Aug 26, 2019 8:14:40 GMT -5
I'll get to that in a second, tops but let me say that Prince Andrew did well to address this promptly and head on. It's not a good situation but if more men at that level were this candid, we might be able to eradicate some of the exploitation. Think of strong hints like Stanley Kubrik's Eyes Wide Shut, or the Liam Neeson movie Taken about la Traite des Blanches, among some examples in popular culture (mind you Kubrik's esthetics don't reflect how actually unattractive the women in that club are...) and let's not forget that Hollywood is often used for that circle to brag and be glamourized. But I digress. Idleness on the part of some royals is breeding ground for people like Epstein to find a niche. Men sewing oats and entitling themselves is nothing new, and men won't snitch on men especially if it curbs the practice, unfortunately. Its only when they become fathers of daughters and paranoid their daughters will be exploited, do they grow a moral compass. Then guilty as they are, they feel they have to dive even lower, thinking they have to stay ahead and scare the next man/exploiter. Its a vicious cycle. Let me uncross my eyes now and answer tops. I mentioned the Maxwell woman. I don't get your tone of defensive outrage if I didn't actually just touch on a nerve. We also saw that Epstein introduced Melania to Trump, someone slipped. So let's not pretend to balk, please. To me, this sex trade is ancient and the faces renew themselves. It makes me wonder why people wsnted to take on the Ottomans if it was only to take over their lucrative trade. 🙄 {As per people in the know, I suggest the partners who became Epstein's will's beneficiaries, offshore. Considering, on the other hand, the kink sex club in Toronto I was told about by my dogwalker, you might find members of the second or third generation of a group going back to 19th century Russia, of which Sy Jacobson of course. I've again btw contacted FBI in light of the inertia of Canadian authorities.} |
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Post by mrszinck on Aug 28, 2019 7:41:22 GMT -5
To me, this sex trade is ancient and the faces renew themselves. LOL |
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Post by agentf on Aug 29, 2019 12:57:16 GMT -5
What a visual, sorry. New faces on old bodies 🙃 I'm most funny when I don't try... To me, this sex trade is ancient and the faces renew themselves. LOL |
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Post by agentf on Nov 18, 2019 9:05:21 GMT -5
Do we even go there today? I didn't listen, but I gather royals cannot all ad lib with dexterity. I think that kind of general indolence - if that's the proper word, that mental belly softness? is precisely why the more predatory parasitical can latch on with minimal effort - it's exactly so "convenient" and easy. I'm bypassing the girl's parents' role at letting it get to thrice the times she would have been forced by an Epstein, but those operators have ways of lulling everyone into false senses. If Andrew offered himself as a distraction for the media's attention, there he succeeded. "Honourable" however was not a word to bring up in the context of Epstein. May his clumsiness be testament to his haplessness in competing with the agendas of types like Epstein who lived to pick off the lesser links in otherwise monoliths.
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Post by agentf on Nov 24, 2019 10:28:01 GMT -5
On the topic of unavoidable controversy, it seems investigators have not looked enough into how Epstein found himself the one to financially rescue Andrew's ex-wife several years back. In that world, the one suddenly conveniently there to help - especially someone who's not an innocent man to begin with - usually is in on the circumstances that caused the golden person to fall into trouble. It's usually a concerted effort to create a perfect storm. A real storm is never that "perfect". If there was not already some form of debt, i.e. holding compromising information, this bailout created and sealed one. Let's face it, Andrew has no "game". Maybe he's been babied too much, such that he was unprepared for life on the outside world, where predators no doubt awaited. Predators isolate their prey, whether by polemics and propaganda, then send in a disguised lifeline and draw a beleaguered victim into their web. If I were my bestie, I would get mad and proactive. Where was Andrew most vulnerable? Was it the school friendship to the Maxwell woman, whose dad was a media therefore polemicist mogul? Then I'd send the hounds after her, and drag her in to be met by investigators. How did Andrew's wife get into financial difficulty to begin with, and was seduced by her financial advisor? There ARE white collar criminals out there, and money buys cooperation down the food chain - like with Sy Jacobson and the Rizzutos for example. Every city has these mobsters for hire who'll turn out dirty tricks to derail lives. They are counting on shame to delay being exposed, but I think it's time Andrew and his wife brainstormed about when it was that they were stupid or too trusting, and comb over anything that could be helpful to investigators. www.thesun.co.uk/news/10395886/epstein-madam-ghislaine-maxwell-milked-billionaire-dad-and-threw-lavish-parties-with-beautiful-women/In my limited sleuth opinion, Epstein and Robert Maxwell (even Sy Jacobson) were in the same multi-generational network of fraudsters and blackmailers originating from East Europe. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell |
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Post by agentf on Nov 26, 2019 16:36:55 GMT -5
Andrew may want to have a look at the following, as might Fergie as well who found herself in Riyadh on the day of the ill-fated interview... setup much? These guys love cutting it very close.  It's from my earlier link, that I hadn't fully read. airmail.news/issues/2019-9-14/my-tea-with-jeffrey-epstein |
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Post by agentf on Jul 4, 2020 6:23:20 GMT -5
C'est du beau monde 🙄, as my mom would say...  If I were my bestie, I would order a new pair of chairs and burn those, for whoever else's dirty bum my stupid son invited to park in my place. |
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Post by agentf on Sept 9, 2021 5:19:43 GMT -5
This is no time for boomerang resolve after the damage has been done. The Epstein acquaintanceship, the interview, even the very fact Ghislaine Maxwell wants to testify on his behalf, the dodging - smh. I think he needed a good slap at some point growing up, excuse me bestie. Polls show that Brits have the lowest opinion of him. What's left to do is hand over the bigger fish, to plea bargain what's left of his reputation. The issue of other Epstein associations should be raised. Where are the cases against the Bill Gates, Alan Dershowitz, or the Victoria Secret guy (Lex Wexner?) ? The singular focus on Andrew, a PR person would seize upon and raise. Were there no other men victims were forced to sleep with? It's almost a coordinated attack along with Markle (who unlike Giuffre is either completely brainwashed or a willing participant in this takedown), and a good investigation would look at the network of men making these women available, which may actually be underway. In any event, it's too late for Andrew. He should stay in that cabin. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9972997/Prince-Andrew-lunch-summit-Queen-woodland-cabin-Balmoral.html |
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Post by agentf on Sept 11, 2021 18:42:08 GMT -5
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Post by agentf on Sept 12, 2021 9:36:28 GMT -5
PS: when a party requires of another a non-prosecution agreement, it's an admission there exists prosecutable offenses...
Hope you all enjoyed your hunting party 😎 and the 🚌 😉
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Post by agentf on Sept 13, 2021 15:26:14 GMT -5
Ok, so now the argument is jurisdiction. 2 of the 3 witnessed and corroborated episodes were in the US (Manhattan & US Virgin Islands). The victim was a US citizen, recruited and groomed in the US and the London event was still orchestrated as part of a US-based scheme. Epstein was American. The same jurisdiction as with Ghislaine Maxwell applies, whether criminal or civil (because the case is derived from a criminal act).
What was the second point? Serving of the papers? The Metro Police guard specifically said he was not "primed" to receive documents, therefore if he accepted them the next day... he was "primed" to do so. That's rational.
Added to that the several attempts and the flight to Scotland to host a body-burying party where no doubt the Trump-appointed Supreme Court was discussed considering his guests, and it looks consistent with his regular lack of cooperation, as per with the FBI.
This reminds me I've denounced Trump to the ICC via the OTP where anyone with information can do the same.
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Post by agentf on Oct 11, 2021 8:14:25 GMT -5
So Scotland Yard is not taking up an investigation, and to a degree that's fine for now considering it would put undue strain on QE2 and the work that the non-degenerate royals are trying to do over the noise of the American revolt by the Sussexes. Waiting for the US outcome would be one strategy. What I don't get is why the same treatment of UK authorities towards Ghislaine Maxwell? That smells.
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Post by agentf on Jan 13, 2022 9:11:33 GMT -5
Things would have been so different had he owned up, fallen on his sword with contrition and not fuelled this with vicious, condescending and mysoginistic attacks against his accuser. I marvel at the paradox with people that get tagged with holding the blame for princes as these go about their lives sucking the very life out of the blameholders...🙄 Princes in today's world are rarely elegant anymore. pagesix.com/2022/01/12/could-prince-andrew-lose-his-hrh-and-military-titles/ |
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Post by agentf on Jan 13, 2022 13:58:31 GMT -5
I'm sure it's with a heavy heart that HM has had to try to teach a grown man a lesson. Why couldn't he have reciprocated that devotion?? Cooperating and denouncing Epstein, Maxwell etc would have been a good first step for him - they were never his friends. HM deserves better in her later years. I personally would have banished him to Antarctica. No offense to Antarctica.
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Post by agentf on Jan 19, 2022 6:21:39 GMT -5
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Post by agentf on Jan 29, 2022 15:14:42 GMT -5
Prince Andrew is continuing with the same bad judgement that landed him in doo doo; he's trying to get another repeat sex offender - Kevin Spacey - to testify on his behalf. Spacey is another Lolita Express denizen and debased the British throne. Not only that, but Andrew thinks a jury trial will work in his favour though the strategy is again to attack women. No misogyny there 🙄. You have to wonder if he lost more than the use of his sweat glands in the Falklands. It's 5 to midnight in the garden of good and evil, sadly a former favourite movie featuring Spacey. Now the gay lover business rings too true.
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Post by agentf on Feb 2, 2022 8:39:14 GMT -5
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Post by agentf on Feb 15, 2022 11:29:11 GMT -5
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