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Post by countess on Jul 18, 2011 14:32:31 GMT -5
Stephanie is forced by Albert to say publicly that she likes Charlene? Is that possible?
YES rainier did NOT leave stephanie taken care of, he didn't trust her with money, but trusted FatAl to "take care of her". she has to play along or he can cut her off with nothing.
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Post by mrszinck on Jul 18, 2011 15:06:21 GMT -5
emmeline, that is what I am talking about the Stéphanie ’interview‘. Have you seen how she keeps her hands and arms around her body. With her face down? Never looking right in to the camera. My first thought was that she needed drugs… Now I don’t think so… Same with her tears at the civil wedding (I saw live TF1). She looks first to Caro... And then she begins to cry... This is not because her brother marries. BS! And I don’t care what the PR makes from it... I know what I saw! (No harm intended, emmeline!)
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Post by emmeline on Jul 18, 2011 17:27:05 GMT -5
No harm taken mrszink Well, i'm begining to think that Stephanie is trapped in her bother's domaines. It is possible for her, that she has to suck up and be an asskisser to Charlene in order that she and her kids can live well. She is the most emotional of the family. And those tears at the civil wedding...i need to watch the video again. But yeah, i think it wasn't happiness. Same in the religious wedding. I think i wouldn't be surprised if in the Grimaldi nobody really likes her, but they have to make an effort for FatAl. God, this man is incredible! I would die to see that catfight video. I mean, it would take a lot to break Caroline in public, she is like a master in how to behave in public or in front of cameras. Finally, people is seeing that Charlene is no victim at all and i'm lovin' it!!
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Post by smt on Jul 18, 2011 17:53:03 GMT -5
I believe only half of it. If this guy really did have video of the so-called cat fight -- it would have appeared somewhere within the past few weeks. However, I can absolutely see Trampolina and Caroline having a very, very heated argument about just about anything. I don't think it was over Grace's engagement ring -- why did The Cad just give her the ring for their engagement rather than wait until a few days before the wedding. That part of the story doesn't make sense. I think that Grace's jewelry was left to her daughters, wasn't it? Anyway ... this thing was going to blow up at some point. I just don't think any of us imagined that it would blow while Trampolina was walking down the aisle.
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Post by grandduchess on Jul 18, 2011 18:27:50 GMT -5
I believe it. As a matter of fact, I was waiting for something like this to come up since the engagement was announced. Emm, you totally make a good argument about Stephanie. But not to worry.... Trashlene is so bullish and mannish that Grace's jewelry won't fit her because she was so dainty...
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Post by cm7007 on Jul 18, 2011 20:07:52 GMT -5
This is more of CW's BS. I've seen her, personally, staring at some of Caroline's jewelry - especially her rings - with such envy it sent a chill down my spine, I caught her eying some of my stuff as well and it was quite off putting. There is a difference in looking at something and admiring it, and looking at something and coveting it. Creepy!
Secondly, I doubt the "engagement ring" CW wanted was the original one Rainier designed for Grace - the ruby and diamond one. That one was considered too "sweet" and tiny for a Hollywood Movie Star of Grace's stature. I'm sure she wanted and wants the 15 carat emerald cut diamond that MGM brought for Grace and that she wore in High Society. I pray she never gets it. JUST BECAUSE ...!
Everyone forgets that Grace was "owned" by MGM. MGM paid for the wedding and all the PR. MGM was owned and operated by "the boys". Everybody know that! It was a Mafia business deal. Plain and simple. MGM wanted control of the Monaco Casinos. They got it. Her father didn't put up 2 million for a dowry (her father was Irish Mafia- everybody knows that. Her father and Frank Sinatra's manager was BEST friends) - She, Frank Sinatra and MGM put up the money - because it was a good business deal for them. Love, real love, NEVER was part of the equation either. It seemed like a pretty good deal for her at the time. The Catholic Church was behind it because they got revenue from Monaco and this "fairytale script" brought in money. Grace really believed once she produced an "heir" she would be able to return to movies. She got screwed! Big time. She tried to get out of the deal after the fact but she was told in no uncertain terms the contract was iron clad. Everything about Monaco is a fraud - including Princess Grace. However, Grace made the best of what she had gotten herself into and set out to win the hearts and minds of the people of Monaco - the only REAL thing about the place. She succeeded . Had she lived she would not have become the ICON she's become. Her early death just fed int the "fairytale".
This is some of the stuff the 3 Grimaldi's so desperately try to hide. Monaco has always been a Mafia State. EVERYBODY KNOWS! Let it go. No one cares!
I think Caroline should be happy if there is a tape of her fighting with that beast over her mother's jewelry. It will show just how awful and mercenary CW is. Saint or no Saint, Grace was her mother and Caroline has every right to NOT want to give this creature anything of her mother's if she doesn't want to. Caroline doesn't have anything to be embarrassed or ashamed about! I hope there is a tape and I hope it comes out. Albert is a bigger fool than even I thought!
Yes - I've heard people in the inner circle refer to CW as "Princess Barbie" so let's not even discuss if that's true.
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Post by axelle on Jul 18, 2011 20:16:27 GMT -5
Applause! Sounds about right to me!
Thanks for sharing the local take on Conlene - she is so envious as she never had a job to go out and buy her own jewels!
PA is a bigger fool than I ever thought too - real pity!
I'm rooting Caroline here - there are some things that need to stay in blood family. Not bought family!
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Post by donna on Jul 19, 2011 3:50:52 GMT -5
My disappointment lies with the tape owner. Why is he so keen on making money on it. Why doesn't he just give it to the media and let it spread worldwide. I agree with CM, it won't hurt Caroline to show that she disapproves of the wedding scham. It will damage the beast's reputation more. Albert is just a stupid retard who has nothing to loose.
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Post by sandsla on Jul 19, 2011 4:24:45 GMT -5
I definitely believe it and especially a fight over jewelry. Albert is truly the Village Idiot of Monaco and has no idea just how much Charlene conned him and what true bitch that she really is. The idea that he sent an entourage to go and get her at the airport is proof that the Village Idiot has no idea just how much Charlene wanted this job - the title, flunkies, fame, money and lifestyle. Also, something happened with Charlene not wearing her new tiara on the religious wedding day. She had that tiara specially made to wear with her wedding gown. Caroline probably handed over Princess Charlotte hair clips to Charlene as some compromise. Albert deserves every single bit of ridicule that he is getting in the press, especially with everyone reporting that poor Charlene was forced to marry him. He was a sucker then and still is one! [/b] Yes he does! And he had the benefit of everyone telling, showing him, and pointing to it for six years.....just exactly how this was going to get played out and how Charlene was going to play the victim and how it would be Albert that would end up looking and being the louse! I have been a broken record repeating this for so many years! I so believe this story! I read Charlene's posts at TRF and she talks about this way back....I think before Albert had even proposed to her--she made it very evident that she had gone through pictures of Grace wearing her jewels, when she actually had the nerve to ask if anyone knew where they were, and who had them? It made me so sick, because I always knew all along what she was after, but it was just so disgusting to actually read all her posts about her greedy self serving despicable intentions! I knew exactly what her response was doing to be before someone replied that Caroline was the one that possesses Grace's jewels--Charlene responds in her posts that she thinks Albert's wife should have them! This girl is so repulsive!!!!! Her fake fraud title and position and she thinks she should have Grace's jewels instead of her own daughters! I really hope someone has a video that shows what Albert's new wife and the new Princess of Monaco is all about! I really do hope that video exist and someone gets it out there! I guess it depends on how much they are welling to pay this guy off...I imagine that is what he is looking for, but it doesn't make a difference, because it is is only a matter of time that other videos and articles about Charlene will come out! Charlene is already getting so much worse as we predicted! Albert is going to go broke wiping up Charlene's trail of trouble. It really would not surprise me, that after William gave Diana's ring to kate, that no doubt (as tacky as these two have been) that Charlene would have tried to pry Grace's ring away for herself and try to tell Albert that he should do the same for her! And since these two do not seem to have an original thought in their head and all they have done so far is to try to copy everyone else! I really would not put it past Albert to let Charlene try to persuade him to give her Grace's ring! I am so glad that Rainier was smart enough to give Grace's jewels to Caroline....considering what a mark Albert is for these women. I think Ranier probably had the foresight to know how things might go with Albert, who so far has listened to no one else, but the the most ignorant and despicable people that anyone could imagine, and of course the worst being his new wife! I cannot tell you how true I think this story is--Charlene always confirms for me everything she has telegraphed in her posts! I will bet you anything that is why she didn't wear her ring! She wanted Graces and she thought she could talk Albert into getting it for her--she thought she could get Albert to demand Caroline give Albert the ring for his fake repulsive bride! That is why she didn't wear her own ring--she didn't want to be photographed with a different engagement ring on....she was trying to hold out for Grace's! [/u] If I was Caroline, I wouldn't have shown up for the fraud of a wedding with the despicable girl, especially after something like that! Albert needs Caroline so much more than Caroline needs Albert--I think she is only around there now because she is trying to figure out how to save Monaco from the direction and fate that Albert is bringing to it! This is her history and family name too--her parents legacy that she alone has pretty much done the heavy lifting and been the keeper of for so many years, while Albert seems to only be concerned about his own social life of creepy woman--that is the face he seems to want to show the public. I really do feel for Caroline, but I still think she should have gave Albert an ultimatum a long time ago of exactly what he could expect from her, if he ever married this girl! Caroline is now the only one that anyone respects there, "especially now" that Albert has actually married this girl. Everyone these days has a camera on them, and Charlene doesn't lack friends for no reason--she is offensive and deceitful and she is going to have a lot of people trying to take her down, due to nothing but her own unattractive character! And Albert is going to spend the rest of his fortune on this repulsive girl, after having to mop up after her forever! Everyone knows what this marriage is about and Charlene's father looks like he has no problem lying about so much already , so I really don't know why this man thinks anyone is going to take his word for anything or why he thinks the palace needs him as a public spokes person! His daughter does enough damageon her own! Seriously what did Charlene and Albert really think they were going to do, physically wrestle the ring away from Caroline-- why should there have been a fight between CHARLENE (not Albert) and Caroline? That is telling! Charlene would have looked like a jerk just accepting it, but the idea that she would personally get in a fight over Caroline's own mothers engagement ring because she wanted it for herself, is just so disturbing! I cannot believe Albert would actually think of giving Charlene Grace's engagement ring--yet I really can believe it! If it happened.... and it is too hard not to believe it, after reading all of those posts of Charlene's --please go read them at TRF! Charlene has always given a really good insight into what she is all about and just how her creepy mind works-- she has always exposed the fact that she does not possess a conscience or any kind of soul! If Albert could not recognize this from the beginning and through out the six years...the entire time that he has KEPT her, then he really does deserve her and all the years of trouble she is going to bring him! I am guessing Albert did not appreciate her sad princess ploy for the public and press , especially after she clawed, deceived and manipulated her way to the title of Princess of Monaco, when she knows it has always been nothing but a business deal for her that she was only more than happy to agree to, and that she was also paid very very well for (for what I don't know?), but it is Albert's own fault, after she spent six years showing Albert and the public exactly who and what she was! Charlene is going to be about as popular as Casey Anthony in no time, probably not as well known, but just as unpopular--seriously they really are both the same kind of narcissistic lying psychopaths. Anyway this story just makes me even more ill than when I originally read Charlene's posts about Grace's jewelry--that girl cannot think about anyone or anything else in the world but herself! I really hope the press gives her all the notoriety that she has craved all these years!
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Post by mrszinck on Jul 19, 2011 4:40:07 GMT -5
You make a good point. I think also that she does not wear her ring to get that of Grace. Ugh sick.
That is blackmail.
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Post by sandsla on Jul 19, 2011 4:41:57 GMT -5
Applause! Sounds about right to me! Thanks for sharing the local take on Conlene - she is so envious as she never had a job to go out and buy her own jewels! PA is a bigger fool than I ever thought too - real pity! I'm rooting Caroline here - there are some things that need to stay in blood family. Not bought family! Oh you think that is news! Charlene actually thinks Albert should buy himself a crown! She is envious of other royals who have crowns, and that she won't get to wear a "CROWN" ;D She thinks that since Albert is rich enough that he could buy one--so why doesn't he? ;D Seriously! She is serious--go read the person who "started" that thread on TRF if you want a real glimpse into someone's six year old mentality?
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Post by sandsla on Jul 19, 2011 6:12:53 GMT -5
This is more of CW's BS. I've seen her, personally, staring at some of Caroline's jewelry - especially her rings - with such envy it sent a chill down my spine, I caught her eying some of my stuff as well and it was quite off putting. There is a difference in looking at something and admiring it, and looking at something and coveting it. Creepy!
Secondly, I doubt the "engagement ring" CW wanted was the original one Rainier designed for Grace - the ruby and diamond one. That one was considered too "sweet" and tiny for a Hollywood Movie Star of Grace's stature. I'm sure she wanted and wants the 15 carat emerald cut diamond that MGM brought for Grace and that she wore in High Society. I pray she never gets it. JUST BECAUSE ...! Everyone forgets that Grace was "owned" by MGM. MGM paid for the wedding and all the PR. MGM was owned and operated by "the boys". Everybody know that! It was a Mafia business deal. Plain and simple. MGM wanted control of the Monaco Casinos. They got it. Her father didn't put up 2 million for a dowry (her father was Irish Mafia- everybody knows that. Her father and Frank Sinatra's manager was BEST friends) - She, Frank Sinatra and MGM put up the money - because it was a good business deal for them. Love, real love, NEVER was part of the equation either. It seemed like a pretty good deal for her at the time. The Catholic Church was behind it because they got revenue from Monaco and this "fairytale script" brought in money. Grace really believed once she produced an "heir" she would be able to return to movies. She got screwed! Big time. She tried to get out of the deal after the fact but she was told in no uncertain terms the contract was iron clad. Everything about Monaco is a fraud - including Princess Grace. However, Grace made the best of what she had gotten herself into and set out to win the hearts and minds of the people of Monaco - the only REAL thing about the place. She succeeded . Had she lived she would not have become the ICON she's become. Her early death just fed int the "fairytale". This is some of the stuff the 3 Grimaldi's so desperately try to hide. Monaco has always been a Mafia State. EVERYBODY KNOWS! Let it go. No one cares! (I am completely asleep writing this! I just can't read through it now, so I hope it makes just a little sense at least) I think Caroline should be happy if there is a tape of her fighting with that beast over her mother's jewelry. I t will show just how awful and mercenary CW is. Saint or no Saint, Grace was her mother and Caroline has every right to NOT want to give this creature anything of her mother's if she doesn't want to. Caroline doesn't have anything to be embarrassed or ashamed about! I hope there is a tape and I hope it comes out. Albert is a bigger fool than even I thought!Yes - I've heard people in the inner circle refer to CW as "Princess Barbie" so let's not even discuss if that's true. Grace liked men well enough that while she may have not known Rainier all that well, that by the time that they had married they had spent more time together than some people realized--Rainier use to come out to California and spend time with her when she was still shooting films-they just had the insight to show some class about it, as most people did back then. I think Grace married for the same reasons that a lot of women did in the 50's, it was what was expected of them. I think she may have thought her life would be happier than it was at times and she may have had hopes of doing more movies, but in the end it was her own decision not to do movies because it was not a popular idea with the Monagasque people, not that Rainier did not want her to Marni, in fact Hitchcock kind of blamed himself for ending Grace's career, as much as Grace wanted to play the part, even Hitchcock saw that it was ill advised to have a reigning princess to play a part where she loses her mind! ;D I really don't think Grace ever had a plan to be a divorced Catholic princess bride! The average (non catholic) person did not divorce that often in the 50s. If she ever wanted to seriously leave and didn't, it was because she didn't want to leave her kids and she would have known what she was signing on to before she got married. Rainier and Grace corresponded for awhile before Rainier actually proposed to her. I also think Grace seeing her younger sister get married and start a family, she was looking to do that for herself when Rainier entered into the picture--it kind of fit into her life, and women didn't wait that long to get married in those days, Grace at 26 sounds young now, a woman couldn't afford to wait too much longer than that. Also, Grace was pretty smart with negotiating her contract, and she negotiated a better deal than a lot of other actresses did--MGM made some concessions for her...she got to live in New York for one thing. Grace agreed to the filming of her wedding only very reluctantly to satisfy her contract, because she still owed MGM a few more movies, since she was loaned out to Paramount to work with Hitchcock. I don't doubt that Monaco has it's share of mafia form other countries, Casino' are always a good place to launder money and then with there banking deal--I'm sure that it is very attractive for anyone looking to hide or protect their assets, I don't know much about Grace's family ties to the mafia, but the entertainment industry has always been a Jewish industry. Also Grace in her later years came and served on a committee in Hollywood, that I think a lot of people are not aware of. She didn't act, but she did stay involved. I think Grace was always going to be an Icon, less because of her being a princess, and much more because of her being a movie star, so I think I have to disagree a little that her tragic death made her an Icon. Grace was very well liked and admired by a lot of different type of people...she had a lot of friends in many walks of life, and she could have really leveraged the media in her favor, for many reasons if she wanted to. I think it must have been a little hard for her to cut her career short right when she was just getting on the top of her career. I think she mentioned that both herself and Rainier probably had mistaken each other for being different people, saying Rainier might have mistook her for actually being the character in To Catch a Thief. But I think they loved each other as much as anyone did in those days....and they probably also married each also other for the same reasons as most couple probably did back in the 50's when they got married--It wasn't that unusual, most women were still expected to be the good little wife--I think it was timing as much as anything, which I think was common then. CM, I hadn't read this posts before I wrote the one above, but I could not agree more about your assessment of Charlene and the cold calculating unapologetic personality of hers--Charlene is not exactly a sympathetic character when most people meet her. The reason i do not view her as someone street smart is that she is too ignorant to know better to try to hide the true unattractive parts of her character, as you describe above. I have watched her through her posts do a study on the Grimaldi jewels or anything materialistic or otherwise that she feels she needs to show her importance in the world--it isn't even because she has any kind of taste level of appreciation of art or craftsmanship regarding anyone's jewels, but she is such a jealous envious person, and that is the only value that she really sees or cares about--I imagine she was trying to size you up by your jewelery. Charlene has a desperate need to feel like the most important person in the room always!
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Post by hibou on Jul 19, 2011 9:13:41 GMT -5
So I have to ask what happened to the two tiaras she bragged about? I thought surely she would have worn one to her wedding, but I guess wearing Princess Charlotte's hairclips was a better deal. I hope she gave them back.
I have to say I'm like Donna, why didn't the guy release the film of them fighting. Usually they sell those things quickly for lots of money. The fact that he hasn't must mean he's scared of something.
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Post by axelle on Jul 19, 2011 9:28:22 GMT -5
Probably he is afraid of being sued by the palace team that does this kind of thing.
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Post by royalpauper on Jul 19, 2011 11:30:38 GMT -5
So I have to ask what happened to the two tiaras she bragged about? I thought surely she would have worn one to her wedding, but I guess wearing Princess Charlotte's hairclips was a better deal. I hope she gave them back. I have to say I'm like Donna, why didn't the guy release the film of them fighting. Usually they sell those things quickly for lots of money. The fact that he hasn't must mean he's scared of something. Because he knows that it is in the Palace's/Albert's best interest that no one sees the video, which means that the Palace should be the one to offer the highest bid. He probably doesn't care who gets it...it is a business deal for him and a great opportunity to make a big buck. So he will sell it to the highest bider and my guess is that that will be the Palace. At this point, after everything that had happened and it's been written about the wedding and this doomed marriage the Palace/Albert can not afforded to have a video like that "out there". That is also a reason why I believe we will never hear about those two paternity tests...the "mothers" will be paid off for their silence. I agree with Sandsla, by the time Albert pays everyone to cover up WC's and his own antics, lies and stupidity he will be broke. I suspect that he already wasted over 100 million Euros on CW and the wedding. Once you add divorce expenses, settlement, alimony and child support (if there will be children)...it can easily add to another 50 mil. What a waste of money.....and he is not even having a good time. What a dummy!
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Post by mrszinck on Jul 19, 2011 11:33:17 GMT -5
.....and he is not even having a good time. What a dummy!
LOL
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Post by suite583 on Jul 19, 2011 16:09:20 GMT -5
.....and he is not even having a good time. What a dummy! LOL We are clever for we are laughing at them and having good time......and they are rubbing their heads......
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Post by margarita on Jul 19, 2011 16:11:30 GMT -5
.....and he is not even having a good time. What a dummy! LOL ;D ;D ;D
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Post by cm7007 on Jul 19, 2011 16:40:45 GMT -5
It's true Grace "wanted" her marriage, and wanted it to work - but she was manipulated by the Studio Chiefs and their wives who desperately wanted her out of their hair. She was threat to them and the Studio Bosses knew Grace only had one or two more films in her anyway They could make much more money "passing her off to Monaco". You're right, Grace wanted what every other women in the 50's wanted - a marriage and children. The "boys" didn't think they were doing anything terrible to her. After all - she was just a woman and was getting what every woman wants. How bad could it be! And like many, many actors, Grace was insecure and lived in a fantasy world - which is why it was so easy to manipulate her. (I'm not guessing at this. I have inside insight.) Yes, she never planned or even thought about divorce. She wanted to be a 'good Catholic wife and mother". But she also truly believed she would be able to maneuver herself around her "Monaco contract" the way she was able to maneuver her way around the Studio Bosses (or so she thought - no one ever did anything THEY didn't want.) She really believed she would be "allowed" to go back to films - and on her terms. But don't think for one second that Rainier didn't manipulate the Monaco People into demanding Grace stay put! HE didn't even allow any of her films to be shown in Monaco because HE didn't want anyone seeing HIS PRINCESS kissing anyone else. He blamed his people for not wanted her to do more films - but HE RULED his people - He did what HE WANTED. (He had big problems! Well - he was short!)
There were hideous, horrible fights going on in that Palace - the children overheard it all. One of they reasons they seem so hell bent on "tearing down the fairytale image of their parents' consciously or unconsciously.
None of this demeans anything Grace did or accomplished in her life as an actress, person or as Princess. She was in many, many ways an exceptional woman.
Yes, for the most part Hollywood was controlled by the Jewish Mob - but a gangster, is a gangster, is a gangster - they all play at the same ball game and deals are made.
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Post by axelle on Jul 19, 2011 20:40:45 GMT -5
I just can't wait to see this video! I hope it gets out!
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