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Post by margarita on Jul 13, 2011 10:37:06 GMT -5
btw ... talking about snowball rolling - here are the online edition articles on the different hotel an unhappy marriage story ONLY from the past HOUR and ONLY from ther German net: http://www. n-tv.de/ticker/Entertainment/Charlene-und-Albert-unter-Dauerbeobachtung-article3803901.html http://www. nordbayern.de/charlene-und-albert-unter-dauerbeobachtung-1.1362028 http://www. stern.de/lifestyle/leute/charlene-und-albert-unter-dauerbeobachtung-1705774.html http:// www.morgenpost.de/vermischtes/article1700449/Seltsame-Hochzeitsreise-von-Albert-und-Charlene.html http://www. stern.de/lifestyle/leute/flitterwochen-von-monacos-fuerstenpaar-im-bett-ohne-albert-1705659.html http://www. gala.de/stars/story/152533/Fuerstin-Charlene-So-kaempft-sie-um-ihr-Glueck.html
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Post by margarita on Jul 13, 2011 10:27:43 GMT -5
And it will only be stopped by a baby belly. When? I give them a year and they will proudly present a screaming gorbanzo bean. Maybe... But if things continue the way they do ... Albert has the choice: to step down OR to go for divorce in 2011. Charlene plays the victim role to the media in a way that makes Monaco and Albert appear like an evil medieval dictator and kidnapper. It's her nature - this won't change but get only worse now that the media turned against this faux tale and she doesn't get the "ooohhhh the new Grace fairy tale Charlene wonderful rosé and pink and sugar on top articles" she needs like oxygen for her ego...
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Post by margarita on Jul 13, 2011 10:10:09 GMT -5
And the snowball keeps rolling... www.welt.de/vermischtes/specials/hochzeit-monaco/article13484074/Charlene-und-Albert-schlafen-in-getrennten-Hotels.htmlthis article was put online today, 15.16. Nothing new but IMO the message is: we keep this story present - this won't cool down. welt.de had a similiar article (or even more articles on that) days ago but they put this one online today, just hours ago - although it gives no more actual information than the articles on welt.de from a few days ago... Media smelled the blood (in her show) now and are on to look behind the fassade. Fasten your seatbelts... The damage to the image is immense I think - even it's "only" one new story (different hotels) but it is repeated over and over again - the wedding is always asociated with these rumors and stories now. And again it was Albert who decided to sleep somewhere else and not played along...
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Post by margarita on Jul 13, 2011 9:45:59 GMT -5
Please look at this video of Charlene and ALbert at the St. Devote Church that a sugar loonie posted (on one of several smaller sugar boards where posters are uninformed and have only formed their judgments on Charlene's goodness and Albert & Charlene's love by looking at photos) as proof of Charlene's and Albert's love. Honestly, for a brief moment I actually felt sorry for Charlene as I watched this woman sobbed in what is not a pouting of happy emotions and love is the sugar loonies (more like crack addicts) believe! Charlene keeps looking desperately at Albert as she cries and at first I thought (as I did for the Swedish interview) that Chalrne so depsperately wanted love from Albert - hjust some loving tender gestures from him. But then I realized and belive with every fiber in my being that Chalrne was really more upset that Albert did not give her her PHOTOGRAPHIC IMAGES that she had waited and schemed for so long. As Royal Pauper had stated before, Chalrene wanted those loving gestures for her press and adoring fans. She wanted her wedding to go down ain history as the most loving beautiful majestic and class royal wedding ever. That's what she bragged about. Look at Charlene's face, she gets more and more frustrated with Albert because he wasn't giving her the photographic moments at the last stage of her made-for-tv wedding that sh waited 11 years for! aftr this event, the palace stopped the flow of photos and only released a handful of photos from the dinner gala. Albert was through with playing to Charlene's narcissism for those loving photos - that's why at Zuma's lunch - Charlene didn't give him his photographic moment. she must have had a talking to since she gave the kiss at 500-person reception the next night. MyAdia ! this explanation makes total sense: Albert's way to boycott this farce... Of course it would have been better if he just had turned around and said "no!" but then he would have been the bad bad guy forever no matter how icy CW was behind the scene and Charlene forever the poor innocent bride and victim. That way he hit her on her former strongest but at the same time weakest (because ONLY) point: photos, images!!! Genius. I can't decide whether this is passive-agressive or simply fed-up--and-unable-to-pretend-anymore or a clever tactic ... or a mixture? Maybe that's why the media can't decide whether she was crying because she was sad or upset or desperate or all together. But so far nobody went for "happiness and love" ... it where tears for a purpose. Maybe Albert had finally learned to read her eventually with a little help . He is not the quickest but once he got it I think he can be very strickt.
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Post by margarita on Jul 13, 2011 9:29:38 GMT -5
Hi everyone, I moved the original article about PA Wittstock confirming the separate hotel rooms and the following discussion to the following thread: Slept in Diff Hotels, Cut Honeymoon & Flew to MC!. I understand it really is almost impossible not to cross discuss topics in diferent threads, especially when it reinforces the point that you want to make, so I do not mind at all when that happens. Of course talk about the couple and the wedding can go in this Wedding in the Press and Media thread, but please post any NEW information such as links to article or photos about the honeymoon in the honeymoon thread. Thanks MyAdia - I was already confused where to post the new links about different hotels because many articles speaking about unhappy marriage refer to it (in the context of all the other rumors ... )
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Post by margarita on Jul 13, 2011 7:16:49 GMT -5
No one would pay any attention to these rumors if she had some type of job, own a business or had some type of accomplishment in her life cstone: I guess that's one of the main problems many of us here have with Charlene. And one of the main reasons for questioning her true motives to be around a Prince and marry him. In the RTL-clip from Explosiv is the comment: "She was an athlete who never made it to the very top. So maybe that's why she saw her big chance comming when she met Albert?" That would explain the comment of the media expert she consulted back in 2006 who said that it was evident she saw her future with Albert when she asked me how to deal with journalists. She wanted that tiara so badly and that title and the publicity the big world cup her father was so proud they won. And she got it! Finally a champ. What a shame the cup was already empty when she took it and the public it starting to reveal her as the gold digger she is.
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Post by margarita on Jul 13, 2011 6:58:13 GMT -5
Thanks mrszink for posting and translating this! I just scanned the German tabloids at the grocery store. They made a few titles, many of them speak about problems, even divorce! In the latest edition of GRAZIA www.grazia-magazin.de/news/grazia-magazin/GRAZIA-Magazin-28-2011I read the article Alber & Charlene: What is truly going on in Monaco? An insider tells us more. They repeat all the rumors we already know, but the interesting point is this: A "society Lady" (the anonymous insider) told GRAZIA that people in Monaco don't like Charlene and one of the reasons is, that she didn't learn French during all those years. She also said that the people in Monaco love Albert very much and that they are totally behind him, whatever happens. The author commented on these two statements: "This sounds almost like a threat." My thought: Am I going to far interpreting that the locals where happy if he got rid of her and would be ready to forgive much if he got back on track and rid of CW?
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Post by margarita on Jul 13, 2011 6:47:19 GMT -5
They do not sleep together.. do not take the same car… do not fly together. She marries with a contract to leave her child!! How can she still wants a child??? Think about this… Which woman would this do??? I hope that they divorce rapidly... Ohh yes!!! If things are like they appear to us: don't dare to "produce" a poor child - divorce subito!
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Post by margarita on Jul 13, 2011 0:26:04 GMT -5
Thank you taz for your time and effort!!! That was pretty much work and great job ! I love the sentence of Jo-Ann "Be careful, the camera is on, someone might translate." ... not "might" - but "will" . According to the reportage Charlene is a total control freak when it comes to her image in the media but nonetheless these scenes where filmed AND not cut and thrown away AND handed to a TV station AND shown in German TV AND we translate it now on an international message board ;D That's "translation culture" at its best ;D ;D ;D Nothings gonna stop us I found it interesting that they made a point on Alberts reportedly good relation to Alex. To say in the almost next sentence that Charlene has never seen him and is totally cool towards Albert and Alex. This was a quite clear sign of where the story is intended to go... And it's not in favour of the poor victim Charlene.
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Post by margarita on Jul 12, 2011 16:37:11 GMT -5
Thanks, khillaree !!! I will always think and smile when I see Sarko in the news now ;D Brilliant (Wish I could have seen Stahl's face ...)
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Post by margarita on Jul 12, 2011 16:12:02 GMT -5
It's in the PR Fails thread. The article is first mentioned in this post by Lady Michelle. Here's he comment: Christiane Stahl asked him to wait half an hour to go to the official photo with foreign guests, the French president blurts out: "We have broken boxes for two hours, with a hot as hell, that's enough! This kind of circus is not for me, not my stuff, I leave to silly women ...". Sarkozy au mariage de Charlène et Albert : "On s'est emmerdé pendant 2 heures!!" Décidément, Nicolas Sarkozy aime de moins en moins les invitations pour assister à des événements. Après avoir voulu rencontrer les Français de Côte d'Ivoire lors de l'investiture de Alassane Ouattara et avoir raté la photo officielle avec le nouveau président ivoirien, c'est du côté du mariage d'Albert et de Charlène que Nicolas Sarkozy n'a pas respecté le protocole. Explication de Nicolas Sarkozy : "Je suis capable d'apprécier l'humour corrézien, mais pas l'humour monégasque." Après avoir assisté à la messe d'union durant une heure et demi, la conseillère politique du prince Albert II de Monaco a demandé à Sarkozy d'attendre une demi-heure, le temps que le prince et sa nouvelle femme aillent à Sainte-Devote pour se recueillir et qu'ils reviennent pour la photo officielle. Mais le chef de l'Etat n'a pas accepté et il est reparti très rapidement après la cérémonie. "On s'est emmerdé pendant deux heures, sous une chaleur à crever, ça suffit! Ce genre de cirque, ce n'est pas mon truc, je laisse ça aux midinettes." pipolitiqueland.over-blog.com/article-sarkozy-au-mariage-de-charlene-et-albert-on-s-est-emmerde-pendant-2-heures-78735499.htmlThanks khillaree!!! Could you pleeeeaaaseee translate the main points??? Thanks a million (I don't trust google-translations ) Merci!
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Post by margarita on Jul 12, 2011 16:08:46 GMT -5
I saw now a report at German TV: "Charlene - calculating Ice-Queen or victim?" They tend to calculating Ice-Queen ;D There is this one interview with Jo-Ann Strauss. Charlene gave her instructions how to record the interview and Jo-Ann asked if Charlene is media experienced (because of the instructions, as if she is a pro) since she appeared the first time in public (eveything in Afrikaans). Charlene was pissed off and rolled her eyes and replied that the cameras are still on (means her diva affectations will be recorded) and this could be translated. Oh, oh.. I hope they release the video on their homepage rtl-now.rtl.de/exclusiv.phpI've uploaded the video of RTL Exclusiv at megaupload: High quality 73,54 MB - www.megaupload.com/?d=L1I9TMVHLow quality 27,53 MB - www.megaupload.com/?d=CIVBABZG Thanks for posting this TAZ!!! WOWWOWWOWWOW. - the image of the down-to earth, innocent girl from next door and the rich Monegasque Prince is breaking down more and more - all the rumors are named (new children of Albert, money for getting married ect.) - many people wondering: is Charlene a victim or a calculating icy beast? - then the clip starts, showing Charlene in S.A. almost without makeup, all smiles, huging people: Is this only fake? - Or is THIS the true nature of Princess Charlene - switch to the interview : these pictures where taken only some weeks before the wedding - nothing reminds of the shy and natural Charlene, we see a very determined woman giving advices to journalists how to film her best - the journalist says: when media noticed you for the first time you have learned how to play with the media, didn't you? - Charlene rolling eyes says: oh yes very much. [note of translator: this quotation is taken from the overvoice, not original Charlene] - the journalist says: watch out, the camara is on! Someone might translate what you say [note of translator: good point that's what we do right now ;D] I will translate the rest tomorrow, today just that much: - they say Charlene chooses the kind of Charity events that are best for her image - she is controling everything - every single picture of her that is released and not the relaxed natural shy woman - Alberts son Alex is very often in Monaco on the beach and the owner of Albert's favorite restaurant said that Albert has a very warm and good relation with his son and sees him often - Charlene is totally unaffected by this and Albert's relation to his children
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Post by margarita on Jul 12, 2011 12:10:06 GMT -5
it's not getting better - more and more media catch it up. Just found this (only from the past 7 hours): http://www. bz-berlin.de/leute/flitter-frust-bei-prinz-albert-und-charl-egrave-ne-article1225110.html http://www. myheimat.de/bad-reichenhall/gedanken/charlene-wittstock-und-fuerst-albert-nach-hochzeit-schon-trennung-d2008312.html http://www. sueddeutsche.de/leben/vip-klick-fuerst-albert-und-charlne-honeymoon-in-getrennten-hotels-1.1119073 ("Süddeutsche" is one of the serious daily newspapers in Germany) http://www. bunte.de/royals/monaco-hochzeit-charlene-albert/fuerstin-charlne-jetzt-spricht-ihr-vater-ueber-die-geruechte_aid_26138.html (even BUNTE reports on it, of course quoting Daddy Wittstock confirming the two different hotels but ... noooo there is no crisis .) (It belongs partly to the wedding in the media tread but then again here )
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Post by margarita on Jul 12, 2011 12:03:50 GMT -5
Emmeline - thank you ;D LOL clap clap clap !!
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Post by margarita on Jul 12, 2011 12:01:34 GMT -5
Thanks you girls But it's not much what I've done. I'm just too curious to figure out who is who around him and how are the advisors and friends related to each other. This is just a modest start: karma for everyone who continues and provides more info
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Post by margarita on Jul 12, 2011 9:15:45 GMT -5
Don't these two dimwits know how distasteful this sounds. Two dimwits have a child knowing that they plan to divorce and then the child will be raised in a broken home by a philandering father. Whether this is truly their mission or not, they need to get this report off the pages. This is greatly damaging Monaco. They need to call it quits, have no children and just go their separate ways. "They need to call it quits, have no children and just go their separate ways. " - Scout - I 300 % second that!!!
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Post by margarita on Jul 12, 2011 8:41:30 GMT -5
WOW good found! Thank you axelle OMG ... Daddy Wittstock is giving some trouble to the Palace PR ;D Let the show begin !
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Post by margarita on Jul 12, 2011 7:45:04 GMT -5
What is the position of Bruno Philliponaut (sp?) who travels with him often? Anyone know? axelle: good question and good point: let's not forget about the unofficial advisors! I could find out only about some of the officials and not everything we should/ could know . But let's puzzle ps: Last year I've bought the print edition of L'EXPRESS with the article www.lexpress.fr/actualite/societe/monaco-quand-la-dorure-s-effrite_904413.htmlI can't find it right now but maybe someone bought it too and knows French better than me : There was a scheme with the most important figures around Albert.
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Post by margarita on Jul 12, 2011 7:40:57 GMT -5
Charlene is only a symptom on the tactical level but SYMBOL of this brainblond strategy ... widely seen and noticed even by everyone who doesn't read glossy magazines with one clear message: THIS COUNTRY IS A TRASHY DECADENT SOAP OPERA. PEOPLE OF SUBSTANCE - STAY AWAY, THIS PLACE IS NOT FOR YOU. And this is spreading out in all spheres of Monaco . They dicided to build on quicksand and now they are getting the bill... Her brainblond strategy is her mental training from her Olympic years as she has described doing visualization techniques. LOL ;D But I had in mind another blond woman ... and her strategy ... however: who knows what kind of visualization she was doing ?
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Post by margarita on Jul 12, 2011 7:36:55 GMT -5
Joel Bouzou had more progress at Olympics than Fatal and Conlene An elite modern pentathlete, Bouzou competed in four Olympic Games, including winning a bronze medal at Los Angeles in 1984. He won the World Championship in 1987 and was later secretary general of the International Modern Pentathlon Union (UIPM). My source www.insidethegames.biz/blogs/12748-joel-bouzou-1) WOW! Chapeau... Looks like he is doing a really good job. Would be a great ambassador for Monaco in that field - if there wasn't Conlene who will always care for him standing in her shadow Sad 2) however I think an advisor to a head of State should have studied politics, economy or law and worked in that field. Albert knows the world of sports - he doesn't need an advisor for that. He needs someone who understands and explanes politics, economy, diplomacy ;-) Looks like Albert is chosing his advisors by trust - not by skills.
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