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Post by hibou on Aug 13, 2015 17:56:37 GMT -5
Well, Albert likes to say she was the one that got away because she couldn't take the media circus, but she went into PR as a business career. So obviously that's not true. My guess is that Albert treated her like he does all his girlfriends and his wife with total disrespect. She decided to flee because it was a smart thing to do. I think Albert realized years later she was the one that got away because he married another swimmer. JMO. I just looked up her profile on LinkedIn. She works for Pandora. Here's the first line of her profile. She's the anti-Trampy! I am an advertising strategy professional with experience architecting, building and managing the pricing/yield revenue strategy and supporting business operations for a ~$100M advertising business to measurable result. I do believe she is the one that got away, and it was all Albert's fault because he couldn't keep his hands out of the cookie jar. I also think once she found out what the truth was, she left and didn't look back. There was no getting her back like the others. She put one foot in front of the other and just kept going. She certainly had a better life without him it would seem. JMO |
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Post by hibou on Aug 13, 2015 18:00:34 GMT -5
 Found this old pic. Albert wasn't that ugly, he really let himself go. This girl was a poll vaulter if I remember correctly. I think she was trying to work the Grace thing a little too much if I remember, but she too had had enough of his antics and walked away. I think any girl with any sense of self respect would have done the same and did. Only Charlene wanted the tiara more and was willing to do anything to get it. That should have been a red flag to Albert, but apparently not. JMO. |
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Post by axelle on Aug 14, 2015 10:59:17 GMT -5
I think he was looking to make a deal with someone - and he found a buyer with CW!
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Post by refia on Aug 14, 2015 11:37:06 GMT -5
This girl was a poll vaulter if I remember correctly. I think she was trying to work the Grace thing a little too much if I remember, but she too had had enough of his antics and walked away. I think any girl with any sense of self respect would have done the same and did. Only Charlene wanted the tiara more and was willing to do anything to get it. That should have been a red flag to Albert, but apparently not. JMO. While she dated Albert she kind of tried to go for the Grace look, indeed, but it could also be that Albert looked for women who resemble his mum. No wonder Charlene went onto so many surgeries.. Alicia 2013  Even more gorgeous than back then |
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Post by tops on Aug 15, 2015 13:16:20 GMT -5
I think he was looking to make a deal with someone - and he found a buyer with CW! i will say it again, i believe that Daddy W. shoved him against the palace wall and said "Sh*t of get off the pot!" I doubt if any of the other dads did that. It was force that made Al do it. |
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Post by axelle on Aug 16, 2015 16:09:20 GMT -5
Alicia looks fantastic!
Tops I don't agree with you - because remember when PA called the dad to tell him they were engaged and it was the beginning of some sport event and he was anxious to get off the phone to watch it?
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Post by tops on Aug 16, 2015 19:19:58 GMT -5
Alicia looks fantastic! Tops I don't agree with you - because remember when PA called the dad to tell him they were engaged and it was the beginning of some sport event and he was anxious to get off the phone to watch it? yeah, because the father already knew it was going to happen and wasn't surprised. sorry. |
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Post by axelle on Aug 17, 2015 16:17:26 GMT -5
PA needed a legitimate heir and he got one.
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Post by taz on Aug 19, 2015 5:44:17 GMT -5
i will say it again, i believe that Daddy W. shoved him against the palace wall and said "Sh*t of get off the pot!" I doubt if any of the other dads did that. It was force that made Al do it. CC's parents haven't even been in Monaco before the wedding.  And CC was too afraid to leave the country because she knew that she would have been replaced in no time! I believe she said in an interview that she was generally very close to her family but hadn't seen them for a while. I remember that we in the forum made fun of it and wondered what kind of closeness it was to not see your family for years and not even introduce your boyfriend. The PR-lunch in Benoni recently only confirmed that PA has never been there before. IMO PA never met CC's family apart from Gareth before the wedding. I'm sure he did some kind of research on them to make sure they had no criminal record etc. but apart from that he didn't/doesn't give a sh*t about them. How often does he meet his in-laws anyway once or twice a year?! They don't even spend Christmas or other holidays together... (Compare that with other royal couples!) So it's completely irrelevant what kind of people they are IMO. Let's assume Daddy W did something like that this could have happened afterwards: 1. He gets arrested right away. I mean he's in the palace there are carabinieri, bodyguards, employees etc. ... 2. PA says ok at first to get rid of him and then arrests him and throws him out of the country and his daughter with him. What should Daddy do?! Kill PA?! IMO after Rainier's death PA was finally free. I think Rainier would have never allowed his son to get married to someone like CC. He wanted somebody like Grace for him e.g. a celebrity, an actress, a model etc. Somebody photogenic who would bring attention to Monaco and would recreate the fairytale that was lost with Grace's death. But with all the girls throwing themselves at him all the time (this isn't an excuse of course) PA turned into a playboy and party prince. I don't think he's a monster or so I'm sure he has also fallen in love from time to time. But IMO he couldn't stay faithful. So he needed somebody to accept all his antics and simply marry him for money and status and look the other way no matter what he did. When he became sovereign it was decided that he needed a wife and heirs so the search began for a person like that. We heard of the famous list with names on it of American socialites etc. and IMO CC was way down on that list. IMO in 2005 they spent the whole year looking for a wife for PA but everybody they asked said "no" so they ended up with CC. They want us to believe that CC and PA had no contact between 2001 and 2005 but that most probably isn't true. In 2002 CC was again at the Mare Nostrum event in Monaco. Although she said in her first interview that she lost PA's phone number after their first date in 2001 she claimed in another interview that she contacted PA after Rainier's death to offer her condolences to him. In another interview CC claimed that she would be on a yacht at the Olympics in Athens in 2004 so probably with PA. Then in December 2005 PA asked CC out (she said this herself in her Vogue interview "Fit For a Princess: Charlene Wittstock") and they met in Cape Town at Texan billionaire Preston Haskell's famous New Year's party. This is the number one New Year's party in SA people nearly kill themselves to get an invitation. (Apparently PA is there quite often - IMO even every year - and was also there in 2009, I assume without CC: www.timeslive.co.za/entertainment/2011/01/01/the-party-to-end-all-parties ) Without PA CC would have never got there. According to Jo-Ann Strauss CC didn't even have a proper dress to wear to the party and Jo-Ann lent her one. (Since then Jo-Ann claims that they are friends. I mean CC is friends with everybody she meets once e.g. Maxima) So IMO CC has been his booty call for years PA had a lot of these around the world (e.g. Stevie Parker). But they don't want people to know as it would destroy the fairytale. IMO PA not willing to give up his playboy lifestyle he didn't find anybody else but CC to marry. I mean why should a rich woman and/or one with a career marry a man that doesn't love her and will constantly cheat on her? But a woman like CC who has nothing to fall back on will do this. So IMO CC was lucky that PA ended up with her. I mean he was the one who invited her for the party in 2005 because he simply needed somebody to accompany him. If PA hadn't wanted to meet CC she would have never seen him again. (Like Stevie Parker who PA dumped just like that she never heard of him again.) IMO PA had booty calls all over the planet in every major city. (Today maybe not so much anymore but I'm sure he still has some.) Every time he was in town he called, they had sex and he left. This went on until he had enough and found somebody else then he simply didn't call anymore and that was it. And CC was one of them. IMO maybe all or most of them hoped that PA would marry them as he used to say to them that he kept his real girlfriend a secret to protect her. I think it was Stevie Parker who said this and she added that PA never said "I love you" because he wanted to keep this for somebody special. How horrible, isn't it?! A man tells you this and you still continue to have sex with him... IMO these women incl. CC are all opportunists without an ounce of self-respect. |
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Post by taz on Aug 19, 2015 6:23:20 GMT -5
BTW Daddy W knew of the proposal because CC told him. I mean PA sent his aide to CC first to ask if she would marry him. Only after that he proposed in the palace gardens to her or something like that. I believe he didn't even have a ring for her... Does anybody remember the whole story... Paca... anyone?! (I believe they never told the press properly how it was... funny with people who blab to the press constantly and want us to believe that they are so in love.) They said that it was a tradition but IMO that's BS. All other royals skipped it, simply proposed more or less romantically and surprised their girlfriends. I mean PA sh*t on protocol and brought CC to Monaco and lived with her for years before marrying her and with the proposal he suddenly became traditional... Sure... *rolleyes*
Any other dad would have said "no" when PA called and asked for his daughter's hand on the phone! I mean is this the way it's done?! Especially when PA was in the country not long ago...
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Post by smt on Aug 19, 2015 8:00:21 GMT -5
BTW Daddy W knew of the proposal because CC told him. I mean PA sent his aide to CC first to ask if she would marry him. Only after that he proposed in the palace gardens to her or something like that. I believe he didn't even have a ring for her... Does anybody remember the whole story... Paca... anyone?! (I believe they never told the press properly how it was... funny with people who blab to the press constantly and want us to believe that they are so in love.) They said that it was a tradition but IMO that's BS. All other royals skipped it, simply proposed more or less romantically and surprised their girlfriends. I mean PA sh*t on protocol and brought CC to Monaco and lived with her for years before marrying her and with the proposal he suddenly became traditional... Sure... *rolleyes* Any other dad would have said "no" when PA called and asked for his daughter's hand on the phone! I mean is this the way it's done?! Especially when PA was in the country not long ago... If remember correctly Fat Al sent his aide to propose to Trampy. This was immediately after they returned from CP Victoria's wedding in Sweden where, apparently, he was inspired to get married. I also remember something that the original gigantic diamond the aide gave her from Repossi was soon replaced by a similar designed ring although with a smaller stone. BTW, we have hardly seen either ring on Trampy since that photoshopped engagement picture. I also remember a story that Fat Al called Daddy Shitstock who was more interested in a World Cup match that he was watching on the television. |
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Post by axelle on Aug 19, 2015 14:13:50 GMT -5
Yes I was remembering the World Cup phone call too....the whole thing clearly is a setup.
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Post by taz on Aug 22, 2015 4:06:26 GMT -5
Yes, but what I wanted to know is how PA proposed to CC (if at all)...
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Post by Lady Michelle Elizabeth on Oct 7, 2015 10:45:03 GMT -5
Will she meet Her Serene Trashyness? :-)  |
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Post by Lady Michelle Elizabeth on Oct 7, 2015 11:56:06 GMT -5
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Post by hibou on Oct 7, 2015 21:15:04 GMT -5
Will she meet Her Serene Trashyness? :-) Gee do these women all use the same plastic surgeon? She and Charlene could be twins. So now the big question -- what is she doing in Monaco? Hoping to get Albert on the second time around? Interesting JMO |
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Post by tops on Oct 8, 2015 3:47:23 GMT -5
Will she meet Her Serene Trashyness? :-) Gee do these women all use the same plastic surgeon? She and Charlene could be twins. So now the big question -- what is she doing in Monaco? Hoping to get Albert on the second time around? Interesting JMO They do look similar. Did she travel with anyone else? i see she just gave her "day bag" a product endorsement via social media. |
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Post by tops on Oct 8, 2015 3:51:06 GMT -5
She was certainly with a qualified person to show her around!! |
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Post by smt on Oct 8, 2015 7:30:18 GMT -5
Will she meet Her Serene Trashyness? :-) Gee do these women all use the same plastic surgeon? She and Charlene could be twins. So now the big question -- what is she doing in Monaco? Hoping to get Albert on the second time around? Interesting JMO Totally agree! This is quite interesting. Hmm ... |
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Post by axelle on Oct 8, 2015 15:04:04 GMT -5
Wasn't this lady the one with the Ladies Lunch group that first asked CW to get involved with them? Now we never see CW involved with them...
Interesting indeed!!
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And CC was too afraid to leave the country because she knew that she would have been replaced in no time! I believe she said in an interview that she was generally very close to her family but hadn't seen them for a while. I remember that we in the forum made fun of it and wondered what kind of closeness it was to not see your family for years and not even introduce your boyfriend. The PR-lunch in Benoni recently only confirmed that PA has never been there before. IMO PA never met CC's family apart from Gareth before the wedding. I'm sure he did some kind of research on them to make sure they had no criminal record etc. but apart from that he didn't/doesn't give a sh*t about them. How often does he meet his in-laws anyway once or twice a year?! They don't even spend Christmas or other holidays together... (Compare that with other royal couples!) So it's completely irrelevant what kind of people they are IMO.