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Post by hibou on Nov 23, 2014 14:57:42 GMT -5
Oh dear, and I had hopes she would not end up like this, but I guess it was inevitable that she would fall for the fame and glory. Her outfit, or costume(?), reminds me of one of Charlene's a few years ago. Very ill advised and it is obvious that the Grimaldi clan is not helping her at all. It might have been to their advantage for Caroline to try and advise this girl at the very least so she isn't an embarrassment to them or herself. It makes me sad. Could we sign her up for one of those make over programs? JMO.
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Post by smt on Nov 23, 2014 17:36:00 GMT -5
Oh dear, and I had hopes she would not end up like this, but I guess it was inevitable that she would fall for the fame and glory. Her outfit, or costume(?), reminds me of one of Charlene's a few years ago. Very ill advised and it is obvious that the Grimaldi clan is not helping her at all. It might have been to their advantage for Caroline to try and advise this girl at the very least so she isn't an embarrassment to them or herself. It makes me sad. Could we sign her up for one of those make over programs? JMO. Scary!
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Post by tops on Nov 23, 2014 18:33:46 GMT -5
Oh dear, and I had hopes she would not end up like this, but I guess it was inevitable that she would fall for the fame and glory. Her outfit, or costume(?), reminds me of one of Charlene's a few years ago. Very ill advised and it is obvious that the Grimaldi clan is not helping her at all. It might have been to their advantage for Caroline to try and advise this girl at the very least so she isn't an embarrassment to them or herself. It makes me sad. Could we sign her up for one of those make over programs? JMO. Scary! that top is hideous. WHO is advising this naive young lady? everything's so over done. so I tried to read the translation. did i jump the gun? Was this outfit for Halloween? if so, then maybe she can get away with wearing this ONCE but if NOT for Halloween, "Houston, we have a problem!" she needs to practice on a sultry connection with the camera and not a toothy smile all the time.
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Post by paca on Nov 23, 2014 19:32:10 GMT -5
my guess is on her alcoholic mom. and no this wasn't for Halloween, just looked like it. Some charity thingy. Bunte is pretty nasty about it too, but I guess that is because they are rooting for trashy...
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Post by mrszinck on Nov 24, 2014 9:16:11 GMT -5
I do give her another chance... what she must be going through is terrible. She has the money and a drunken mother but no father present and he gives interviews about the twins to come (no kind word for her).
I'm more worried about her mental state. And I hope there is someone who loves her...
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Post by refia on Nov 24, 2014 11:53:40 GMT -5
She is still young and experiments. At least her smile is genuine. I do give her another chance... what she must be going through is terrible. She has the money and a drunken mother but no father present and he gives interviews about the twins to come (no kind word for her). I'm more worried about her mental state. And I hope there is someone who loves her... Me too. He is an awful father. If Haakon can accept a stepson, why couldn't Albert have a more relaxed relationship with Jazmin and Alex?
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Post by agentf on Nov 24, 2014 14:48:45 GMT -5
Oh God, you guys! I was expecting a cross between a stoned Janis Joplin and whacky Courtney Love judging by the reaction. Everybody and their aunt is wearing faux leather tight pants. The hair reminds me of the Irish singer Imelda May, and the top is not the worst. The lipstick is a bit Goth. Let's just be thankful she's not showing tattoos!! She's smiling very sweetly, the eyes are clear and overall she looks the picture of health.
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Post by paca on Nov 24, 2014 20:03:15 GMT -5
yeah, I guess Steph has done worse with her topless pics drugtaking friends, criminal fiancees etc. Given the circumstances she is probably not doing too bad. But then again she is no longer a teenager and I would wish her to show better judgement. But then again these days women over thirty are still referred to as girls these days, so I suppose what used to be teenage behaviour is now ok until your forties and then you are allowed to continue because your excuse will be that you are in the public eye and afraid to age. So basically these days it is ok to never take responsibility and act responsibly, because there is always an excuse at hand to give you a free pass on practically everything. It's always the circumstances or someone elses fault. God forbid that anyone should ever say: sorry poor judgement, should have looked in the mirror before leaving house.... or whatever else one does wrong. Why does no one ever just step up anymore? Just because Kim K goes out looking like a pink sausage bursting out of her peel, doesn't mean that everyone has to imitate her in bad taste so they get talked about. that makes her money being trash. but from what I hear she is not happy and tries desperately to change perception, continuing to fail. But since it pays, she isn't too bothered until her daughter will ask her why all the other moms don't run around with their breasts hanging out and looking like a weird thing about to pop. so why want to imitate someone, who is not as happy about her image as she wants people to believe, when you can be an original? Especially when you are said to actually have a brain to use. But maybe reports have been flawed on that front too. After all her dad is said to have had good grades and we all know how dumb he is....
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Post by agentf on Nov 26, 2014 7:12:29 GMT -5
Do you realize how this kind of reasoning will frighten any young people away from our formerly edgy forum? There's the Royal Forum for all that matrician stuff. You are not what you wear. Although I'm in agreement over KK but think she has a deep identity crisis from a vampirical mother. KK can never survive outside that nucleus no matter how hard she tries or how hard Kanye West offers an alternative. The problem is Kris Jenner. And that pink latex outfit was ridiculous. She made me think of the pink gunk that goes into McDonalds meat. yeah, I guess Steph has done worse with her topless pics drugtaking friends, criminal fiancees etc. Given the circumstances she is probably not doing too bad. But then again she is no longer a teenager and I would wish her to show better judgement. But then again these days women over thirty are still referred to as girls these days, so I suppose what used to be teenage behaviour is now ok until your forties and then you are allowed to continue because your excuse will be that you are in the public eye and afraid to age. So basically these days it is ok to never take responsibility and act responsibly, because there is always an excuse at hand to give you a free pass on practically everything. It's always the circumstances or someone elses fault. God forbid that anyone should ever say: sorry poor judgement, should have looked in the mirror before leaving house.... or whatever else one does wrong. Why does no one ever just step up anymore? Just because Kim K goes out looking like a pink sausage bursting out of her peel, doesn't mean that everyone has to imitate her in bad taste so they get talked about. that makes her money being trash. but from what I hear she is not happy and tries desperately to change perception, continuing to fail. But since it pays, she isn't too bothered until her daughter will ask her why all the other moms don't run around with their breasts hanging out and looking like a weird thing about to pop. so why want to imitate someone, who is not as happy about her image as she wants people to believe, when you can be an original? Especially when you are said to actually have a brain to use. But maybe reports have been flawed on that front too. After all her dad is said to have had good grades and we all know how dumb he is....
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Post by lilae on Dec 14, 2014 16:05:25 GMT -5
Well okay.. And laughing at people who said that she looked like her father, she is all Tamara. I hope a bit she will work for the government and be an ambassador to France or Monaco, I would love to see Charlenes face XD Poor girl, she's awful.
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Post by paca on Dec 14, 2014 17:14:28 GMT -5
ah well, what do you expect when you are slapped with her kind of parents. At least she will never have to worry about having to earn money, so even if she is unemployabl, she still won't have to worry. and with the education she is given, she can build a good life as long as she just gives up on wanting to be tied to MC. she could actually be happy.
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Post by hibou on Dec 14, 2014 19:42:26 GMT -5
ah well, what do you expect when you are slapped with her kind of parents. At least she will never have to worry about having to earn money, so even if she is unemployabl, she still won't have to worry. and with the education she is given, she can build a good life as long as she just gives up on wanting to be tied to MC. she could actually be happy. True paca but in order to do that she needs a good shrink. Both parents are dysfunctional. From what we read years ago, Tamara has alcohol problems (that's a whole nighmare for a kid all by itself). T.hen there are all those years of whispers about who her father is only to find out it's true. Then there is probably a healthy trust fund to live on or at least help with the rent. I think the grab for attention is more do to neglect. I really had hopes she would have turned out to be different. Had she gone into business or worked for one of Albert's charities, or done something humanitarian (what happened to her high school foundation she started?) how she dressed wouldn't become a focal point. JMO.
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Post by paca on Dec 14, 2014 20:30:07 GMT -5
IMO she needs to put some distance between herself and her parents. Emancipate from her mom and find meaningful work of her own. Helps the self esteem and feeling of self worth which has been undermined by both her parents. To her mom she had worth only as a way of getting to Albert and he has anihilated her for the largest part of her life. She needs to find out who she is without them and what she can achieve by herself in order to be proud of herself. Basically what all kids need to do eventually, but she needs that even more. She needs to know that she has value as a human being not as a means to get sth or some object you can claim or deny possession of. The way she is conducting her life right now it seems that her next disappointment will be her own relationship with men because of this. She has a target on herself for golddiggers and she is not in the state where she can see right through them because she is young and due to her past vulnerable. She is an easy target for men with an agenda. Caro fell for JUnot and we know what kind of woman she is and was even when young. Just think what someone like him will be able to do with her. She seems almost destined to follow in Stephs footsteps in that respect and she has no Rainier to come to the rescue and sort things out for her. And even Steph albeit she was vulnerable, she is still pretty strong, knowing who she is. I'm not sure if Jazmin has that strength. With her moms past of addiction there is a chance that she may see that as helpful too. Only she will have the means to more than alcohol, which is bad enough. But growing up with an alcoholic gives you a good chance at becoming one too. Same as for smokers. Just look at Caros kids. All smokers. Alex is just a matter of time. Grace and Rainier: only one out of 3 kids is a nonsmoker. Steph I have seen Louis smoke, not sure about Pauline, but wouldn't be surprised seeing that she followed her mom with the tats as well. The de massys all smoke, trashy is smoking so my guess is that given all those smokers Sacha, Raphael and the twins will grow up smoking too. Not sure if Tamara smoked, but I think in US culture, especially California smoking is not as big a thing as alcohol. And since we all tend to follow up on things we are accustomed to, her thing might just be alcohol.
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Post by mrszinck on Dec 24, 2014 10:17:50 GMT -5
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Post by paca on Dec 24, 2014 11:03:16 GMT -5
he looks all grown up and thus far I would say he is in the looks department the best looking one of ALberts offspring.
so where is he flying to? Nice to get to meet his new siblings and stepmom or some warm place? 'and I don't just mean the sun...)
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Post by refia on Dec 24, 2014 18:30:06 GMT -5
Aww, he really looks like a Grimaldi,a very handsome boy. I wish him the best
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Post by paca on Dec 24, 2014 19:05:32 GMT -5
he might turn out to be the most normal of them all. I have met him as a small kid on many occasions and you could tell that there is sth going on between those ears although I think that he was a bit spoilt and wild at the time. By what I have gathered Nicole seems to really make sure he gets a good education. Obviously he is fluent in French, but since they are in London these days, his English will be excellent as well. Nicole is maybe a little crazy and hasn't quite gotten past Albert yet, but she is not dumb, she has built a life for herself and all her children (admittedly on Alberts money, but I think better her and all her kids then those horrid trashstocks). He might just end up being the most handsome and smartest of all his kids and turn out to be the in your face kid. The one he could have enjoyed, had he made decent choices in life. I seriously hope Caro will have a word with ALbert about what he is doing to his kids right now. But then again she is too conservative to really stick up to him. She'll probably just leave once Alex is grown up. I don't see her hanging around MC like ELizabeth Ann. She will move to Paris and enjoy her grandkids. No idea where Pierre will settle after his marriage, but probably not MC.
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Post by hibou on Dec 25, 2014 17:53:35 GMT -5
He's turning into a handsome young man, and I do see the Grimaldi DNA. We knew Nicole would find an opportunity to remind everyone. JMO.
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Post by paca on Dec 26, 2014 6:34:29 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that we will be seeing a lot more of him until there is the photo op with all of Alberts children... I don't see Nicole giving up that easily. And they better get used to it.
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Post by agentf on Dec 26, 2014 9:09:46 GMT -5
Maybe the best show of love Albert will have ultimately made to his son Alexandre is to let him have a life away from the throne. Meanwhile Jacques as heir to his mother's ambitions will be the recipient of the scorn and backstabbing intrigues but then again his mother will have predisposed him to it, simply by allowing herself to endure that for not belonging there in the first place, rather than having chosen a dignified life for herself. Sometimes it's weird how things turn out. Plus, Albert I predict will hand over the reigns while still alive so he may end his life surrounded by the children out of the spotlight. In that respect, he will outdo Rainier by having a real personal life albeit flawed.
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