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Post by paca on Dec 26, 2014 11:59:41 GMT -5
he would have to be well beyond 70 to be able to do that. He needs the health for that and he certainly doesn't look in good shape. If anything he might establish a regent in a few years while he can still decide himself and even say for how long the regency is to last.
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Post by paca on Mar 7, 2015 12:36:44 GMT -5
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Post by hibou on Mar 7, 2015 16:48:57 GMT -5
She's taking after her Mother it would seem. She is a big girl and given who Daddy is, she could get free stuff and people to clean up her look. With the right people helping her she could look pretty stunning. Instead she's going the trashy route. Makes me sad. She does have a nice smile. JMO.
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Post by paca on Mar 8, 2015 8:49:33 GMT -5
I think she's taking after both her parents, one being trash the other liking, marrying and fathering it it appears. And to emphasize how much her dad and his lot like trash: his assistant married a stripper whom he met on one of Alberts parties in 2010, so way into his relationship with trashy. They call her burlesque dancer, but to me it is just stripper for the rich. There is a reason why they kept that marriage super quiet... until she blabbed to the press... wouldn't want it to be public knowledge what kind of parties ALbert was giving way into his ruling and engagement and what kind of advisors he is surrounding himself with... and somehow I don't think he has given up on that sort of entertainment. Andrew hasn't either despite fatherhood...
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Post by tops on Mar 9, 2015 5:23:28 GMT -5
I think she's taking after both her parents, one being trash the other liking, marrying and fathering it it appears. And to emphasize how much her dad and his lot like trash: his assistant married a stripper whom he met on one of Alberts parties in 2010, so way into his relationship with trashy. They call her burlesque dancer, but to me it is just stripper for the rich. There is a reason why they kept that marriage super quiet... until she blabbed to the press... wouldn't want it to be public knowledge what kind of parties ALbert was giving way into his ruling and engagement and what kind of advisors he is surrounding himself with... and somehow I don't think he has given up on that sort of entertainment. Andrew hasn't either despite fatherhood... may we know who is the assistant, since it was already "blabbed to the press?"
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Post by paca on Mar 16, 2015 6:58:34 GMT -5
well, who would have thought... Pauline met Jazmin in NY and posted a pic on her instagram. Incidentally it also works in favour of her uncle as it hints at there being behind the scenes more involvement with the older children of Albert. Hopefully Pauline has dropped a few style hints, cause that hairdo is awful. At least neither of them caked it on. Funny thing though they not only seem to share the same earlobes, they also seem to have the same front teeth. Grimaldi ears and Kelly teeth it seems hopefully it is a genuine pic, testament to a genuine relationship and not a PR thing. www.bunte.de/monaco/pauline-ducruet-maedels-ausflug-mit-alberts-unehelicher-tochter-118357.html
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Post by hibou on Mar 16, 2015 17:52:20 GMT -5
well, who would have thought... Pauline met Jazmin in NY and posted a pic on her instagram. Incidentally it also works in favour of her uncle as it hints at there being behind the scenes more involvement with the older children of Albert. Hopefully Pauline has dropped a few style hints, cause that hairdo is awful. At least neither of them caked it on. Funny thing though they not only seem to share the same earlobes, they also seem to have the same front teeth. Grimaldi ears and Kelly teeth it seems hopefully it is a genuine pic, testament to a genuine relationship and not a PR thing. www.bunte.de/monaco/pauline-ducruet-maedels-ausflug-mit-alberts-unehelicher-tochter-118357.htmlIt would be just like Stephanie to make sure that her kids at least meet their cousin. I think Stephanie would be the one to reach out to Jazmin and feel sorry for her. Stephanie has a big heart. JMO
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Post by paca on Mar 16, 2015 19:18:46 GMT -5
it also makes for good underhand PR, showing that officially they are not part of the family, but behind the scenes they are. At least to some. It also sheds good light on the Grimaldis and of course Albert as Pauline would not be doing this if Albert had a problem with it (and I really don't think He would have a problem with it at all). And we know that Steph does anything to support Albert. It does put pressure on trashy though as there is only one pic of her sour looking posing with a beaming Jazmin and Albert. And the timing is also interesting as it is still fairly close to the introduction of the twins and before another important twin date. So to have a Grimaldi, albeit lower on the food chain, pose just now with one of the out of wedlock kids, does smell a little of PR having their hand in it. There seems to be a sense of protecting ALbert against possible backlash due to the attention given to the twins and his presence in their lives and his long absence in the lives of his other kids. IMO it would be a very smart move PR wise on his part to make Jazmin the godmother of Gabriella. I think it would send a very strong message and I know quite q few people would be positively impressed. I remember that someone thought to have seen his son at his avenement and just the thought of his presence there had quite a number put it in their good books. I also think both kids should be present at the baptism, visible, though maybe not overdoing things. Maybe seating them with some cousins and other relations. Trashy and her lot will possibly not like it, as it would take attention away from her achievement, but it could nip quite a few nasty stories in the bud and protect all kids concerned from being dragged through the gossip mill. That will happen soon enough anyways.
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Post by blue j on Mar 16, 2015 23:15:47 GMT -5
I think that it's kids own doing. Jazmin is an adult woman so she can meet whomever she wants, Pauline as Steph's daughter probably also can meet whom she pleases ( not such a bad thing unless it's really a bad crowd). I read on other forum years ago that Jazmin was facebook friends with Steph's kids. So, Pauline and Jazmin could easily communicate via facebook that Pauline would be in NYC and then just have a brief fun meeting. For today's teens making friends is easy and they have dozens of them, virtual and 'real.' I just don't think the photo, although for sure spontaneous, implies more than very causal hanging out of youngsters who know each other little from Facebook of Skype. And no, I don't think Albert has any relationship with his two illegitimate kids, none with Jazmin and only forced one with Alexandre by emotionally blackmailing him Nicole. Wasn't it last time in April a year ago when Albert had a brief, by Nicole's account, visit with Alexandre?
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Post by paca on Mar 17, 2015 6:17:09 GMT -5
obviously they both can meet on their own, though I don't think that Pauline befriends just anyone online without being sure they are who they say they are. It has been said that Jazmin has been in MC frequently so they probably met there. And yes they are adults, but that does not exclude that PR has a hand in this. Steph does everything for Albert and Pauline is close to her mom as well as her uncle. She has been travelling these days, so could fit it in. Since Charlotte was in the US these days too, she might have met up with them too, seeing that they get on fine. Only she would never post a pic like that. There are people that post just about anything on social media. But mostly it is about how you want to be seen by others and what you want them to know other then what they already know. There is no need for Pauline to post pics of her immediate family. So posting a pic with Jazmin is IMO a very conscious decision. And we all know how Jazmin has been brought up to crave the Grimaldi seal of approval. If anyone asks her to meet up, she will say yes. I'm not saying that they can't have a bond or just a casual meet up which they both enjoy, but that does not exclude that PR did not recommend this to Steph, Albert and Pauline. They all know how this works. And especially Pauline is the most pro in this matter. She knows this pic doesn't do any harm, but goes a long way for PR.
And btw since Jazmin has been officially recognized, I do believe that she is being handled in some way. The consulate is in NY and the Kelly cousins are a stone throw away. I do believe that there is the occasional lunch and that they and the consulate are behind some of the invites she receives. They won't let her hang out there and be approached by the wrong people. I am fairly sure that what ever relationship there is, they don't want bad press on that front. We also haven't heard from Nicole since her going public. And we know she always does that when she wants sth. SHe was interestingly quiet while she was attending the same events as Albert and trashy. Obviously locals didn't think it was her place to be there, but she wanted it and she got it to keep her quiet and stop posing with Alex for the paps. More money was obviously in there too. Now she started a new life in London. Good for her, but she probably needed more money then what Albert is paying for ALex. So she went public badmouthing Albert while he was about to become a father again and thus torpedoing his PR. I am sure that she got the money. We also know that ALbert was for private visit in the UK so he could have easily stopped in briefly. And that is pretty much all he can do with both his older kids. Pop in on occsion. Keep in touch by phone and maybe have them around during holidays occasionally. I am fairly sure that Alex saw his dad more frequently when he still lived nearer. I know he had swimming lessons on Wednesdays for a while, before swapping for fencing. He was always in MC just with his bodyguard. Those were MC employees. The same that looked out for Stephs kids. Nicole was rarely around for the drop offs and pick ups, so Albert could have easily had quick visits and I believe that he did, when he was in MC. We heard that trashy had been unhappy about his kids visiting. We also know that Albert used to visit frequently when Alex was little and before he was official. I do remember seeing a pic with Albert having him on his arm in a leaflet at a bank talking about their charity involvement with Albert and his charity and thinking that there was a resemblance there. I think it was accidentally given to them, but didn't have high publication and went unnoticed. But it was very similar to one of the ones posted in Nicoles first PM story, when she went public to get what she wanted. It is what she does and what she knows to work every time. She is very shrewd that way. So all things considered it is nice that there is some contact, but it will never be normal and whenever sth gets public about this, then it is because someone involved has an agenda. That does not exclude that there is anything genuine going on, but we need to remember that there are no private postings with immediate family, so there seems to be the need to protect that part of her life. Even her own half brother, who is part of her life as Steph made sure of that, does not seem to get his relationship with them published, so taking that all in, I still think it is to send a message to the public. But it also points out that she does not feel the need to protect that relationship as she does with other family. And thus this shows clearly that Jazmin is on the same level as friends she is hanging out with and feels ok with posting their pics.
In any case I think it would be smart of ALbert to make Jazmin godparent to his other daughter. And I am sure that Jazmin would be delighted. It would work in a lot of ways for all involved. Trashy might have a problem with it, but if she would manage to keep it private and go along with it, she could actually get positive PR that way. But most of all I think that quite a few Monegasques would respect her for that and it could better her standing with them. If she wants to stick around she might want to consider it.
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Post by hibou on Mar 17, 2015 16:48:36 GMT -5
it also makes for good underhand PR, showing that officially they are not part of the family, but behind the scenes they are. At least to some. It also sheds good light on the Grimaldis and of course Albert as Pauline would not be doing this if Albert had a problem with it (and I really don't think He would have a problem with it at all). And we know that Steph does anything to support Albert. It does put pressure on trashy though as there is only one pic of her sour looking posing with a beaming Jazmin and Albert. And the timing is also interesting as it is still fairly close to the introduction of the twins and before another important twin date. So to have a Grimaldi, albeit lower on the food chain, pose just now with one of the out of wedlock kids, does smell a little of PR having their hand in it. There seems to be a sense of protecting ALbert against possible backlash due to the attention given to the twins and his presence in their lives and his long absence in the lives of his other kids. IMO it would be a very smart move PR wise on his part to make Jazmin the godmother of Gabriella. I think it would send a very strong message and I know quite q few people would be positively impressed. I remember that someone thought to have seen his son at his avenement and just the thought of his presence there had quite a number put it in their good books. I also think both kids should be present at the baptism, visible, though maybe not overdoing things. Maybe seating them with some cousins and other relations. Trashy and her lot will possibly not like it, as it would take attention away from her achievement, but it could nip quite a few nasty stories in the bud and protect all kids concerned from being dragged through the gossip mill. That will happen soon enough anyways. It would be very good PR if all this happened. I could see Jazmin there because she is now independent of Mommy(who would not need to be any where near Monaco), but for Alex you have an angry Mommy who still thinks her child is the rightful heir and would force her presence over the whole event. I just don't see Nicole allowing her son to be present without her to remind the world of her "position". JMO.
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Post by paca on Mar 18, 2015 15:24:54 GMT -5
well, I think that when it comes to her child I do believe that she can step back. Also he is old enough to be there on his own. he can be next to Jazmin and he can be briefed about what to do. There is absolutely no need for her to be there. Not anymore. Besides he has a minder so that should be sufficient. I also believe that being given the choice of their kids attending or not pending on the mothers presence, I think both would rather see their kids go then not. After all they would be meeting officials from MC and whatever is in their future, it would always be helpful to them to know MC officials from these type of occasions. I am pretty sure the Hanovers who aren't even blood relations (except to Alex) will be invited. They were at the wedding...
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Post by smt on Mar 18, 2015 16:58:36 GMT -5
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Post by hibou on Mar 18, 2015 17:14:02 GMT -5
"I absolutely did not have sex with that women...." Doesn't a vehement denial, especially coming from someone like a head of state directly, rather than a credible spokesperson (The BRF have been known to issue a statement from the palace rather than the Queen or Prince Charles actually saying it)mean there is at least some discord going on? Also the renovations appear to be mostly on the outside or are they building an addition to the palace? JMO.
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Post by hibou on Mar 18, 2015 17:15:52 GMT -5
well, I think that when it comes to her child I do believe that she can step back. Also he is old enough to be there on his own. he can be next to Jazmin and he can be briefed about what to do. There is absolutely no need for her to be there. Not anymore. Besides he has a minder so that should be sufficient. I also believe that being given the choice of their kids attending or not pending on the mothers presence, I think both would rather see their kids go then not. After all they would be meeting officials from MC and whatever is in their future, it would always be helpful to them to know MC officials from these type of occasions. I am pretty sure the Hanovers who aren't even blood relations (except to Alex) will be invited. They were at the wedding... paca I agree with you except that Nicole I think hasn't let go of Albert or the heir issue, although it's possible she would step back but I just don't see it happening. She seems to find ways of making Alex presence to the world known. JMO
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Post by paca on Mar 18, 2015 18:33:11 GMT -5
rofl they are renovating the private wing entirely, but hope to be back by easter? which easter? this year or which year? why the talk about wanting them to grow up with a garden when they don't really crawl yet? Methinks this lie story hasn't been thought through properly plus they haven#t kept track of those other renovation stories they had told the press on previous occasions. Also Rainier built an entire wing with his small kids around. How come Grace could do with the noise and 3 kids? And why did they wait with the renovations this long? they dated officially for years, they were engaged for a year with the obvious intend to procreate, then they were without offspring for a number of years and a wife not working at all during those years, so why wasn't this all done before so there would be a home ready for kids to come ... and he seriously asks why he needs to justify his marriage? well, actually he doesn't. He could simply just get on with things and ignore it, especially if there wasn't any truth to it. BUt apparently they always feel the need to respond and spin all rumours out there. If they had a real relationship they felt secure in, they wouldn't need to, nor feel the need. So they keep putting out all sorts of different stroies and not even keeping track of what they said to whom and when they said it. In this day and age it is pretty difficult for people to get through life without their lies being revealed at some point. So why bother? Such a waste of energy and such bodgy PR.
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Post by paca on Mar 18, 2015 18:44:54 GMT -5
well, I think that when it comes to her child I do believe that she can step back. Also he is old enough to be there on his own. he can be next to Jazmin and he can be briefed about what to do. There is absolutely no need for her to be there. Not anymore. Besides he has a minder so that should be sufficient. I also believe that being given the choice of their kids attending or not pending on the mothers presence, I think both would rather see their kids go then not. After all they would be meeting officials from MC and whatever is in their future, it would always be helpful to them to know MC officials from these type of occasions. I am pretty sure the Hanovers who aren't even blood relations (except to Alex) will be invited. They were at the wedding... paca I agree with you except that Nicole I think hasn't let go of Albert or the heir issue, although it's possible she would step back but I just don't see it happening. She seems to find ways of making Alex presence to the world known. JMO they found ways to keep her quiet before, if they want him to be there and she wants him to be there, then they will find a way. I think it is more likely that she will parade around MC before the baptism if he is not invited. Just as she did before the wedding. Also expect her to contact the media for interviews pre and post baptism. Having him officially attend will keep things way more quiet plus give it a positive spin, whereas if he isn't invited not only will there be the seperation rumours to respond to, but also the horrible stepmom and neglective father stories that will paint a pretty bad picture of them with people in MC. I remember that some people complained that Albert only took on financial responsibility, but not actually being a father to his son. Especially younger women and mothers criticised him for that, but also some elderly women. There are of course those who don't think he has a place there and especially because he is partly African, but most people just see a child in need of a father and they are not happy about this situation. Especially with regards to the children and also some people close to him see it that way.
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Post by paca on Mar 18, 2015 19:00:57 GMT -5
"I absolutely did not have sex with that women...." Doesn't a vehement denial, especially coming from someone like a head of state directly, rather than a credible spokesperson (The BRF have been known to issue a statement from the palace rather than the Queen or Prince Charles actually saying it)mean there is at least some discord going on? Also the renovations appear to be mostly on the outside or are they building an addition to the palace? JMO. the film the showed is of the actual renovation in the courtyard. But that is an entirely different part of the palace so they wouldn't be bothered much, especially since it is mostly painting walls. Unless they have supersonic ears, those miracle babies won't notice the paint job. Also Albert makes it sound as if it is a huge job, they are still clearing things out (so basically it hasn't started), but in his next paragraph he says they'll be back in the palace by easter... There is no mention of La Turbie though in the people bit and they don't bother to ask. And once again, why rent someone elses place when your sister has a childfriendly villa in walking distance of the palace, if it is really only temporary. Not like Steph is using that place. and yes I also think that this constant direct responding makes things worse. Just like their pre and post wedding marathon or their weird multiple honeymoons... and then he goes off on a private trip to pose with a stripper.... Just the thing a wife and young mom wants to see, fake or real marriage. If they learned to behave and act more normal then maybe they would get away with this scam. But they just seem incapable of learning. I feel really sorry for people in MC to be ruled by people so dumb and such an inability to learn from mistakes. Had his ancestors been this dumb, they wouldn't have lasted a decade, let alone centuries....
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Post by paca on Mar 27, 2015 6:54:11 GMT -5
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Post by tops on Mar 27, 2015 10:42:23 GMT -5
Well, they will both be on the PETA s#!t list now. (While momma/auntie Stephanie is saving the elephants.... hum...)There are plenty of vintage furs out there instead of promoting the new ones. Guess they had a sponsor or a tie-in with a furrier.
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