Albert's Children

[emmeline]

^Maybe.
Who knows, perhaps a children of these two idiots actually could be intelligent after grandpa Rainier or tante Caroline?

[mrplowfan]

For sure, Jazmin appears intelligent. She's a high school graduate (unlike her future stepmother), graduated with all kinds of honors and awards and was a California scholar. Alexandre is still young but I read he attends a prestigious school in or around Monaco. There are some brains in the family, just not much between those two. I'm not sure they could get a whole brain between them.

[emmeline]

Other pics of Jazmin.

[refia]

Totally Tamara!


This Norwegian girl, I bet she looks like Grace.

[pippi]

Apr 24, 2011 19:18:49 GMT -5 emmeline said:

Other pics of Jazmin.

Her smile is so natural to compare with Charlenes

[emmeline]

Question:

(I didn't know where to post this)

Anybody remembers this article that said that Charlene was seen in Russia visiting a fertility center or something similar? I think it was super mega secret, but someone decided to write about it. It was in an italian magazine, i believe.
I think it can be true, due to reporters are not allowed to write half the things they know, only write what they are allowed.
So, if this is true, maybe Charlene is really infertile and Al's sperm is already frozen in some hospital center in Russia. They just need to do the trasaction and bang! Baby without sin conceived. The Magical Saviour of Monaco will be on Charlene during 9 months before being born.

[refia]

I don´t see her pregnant in the natural way.

[axelle]

Somehow I can, remember the hot tub pix in front of the guy and photographer? Gross.....

[margarita]

If someone provides some basic information about this secret visit in Russia I could search the Russian web for more info .
But I need something to start with

[margarita]

The wedding and talking about babies with CW backfires on Alberts reputation. (And Charlenes...)
Today this was printed in Austrian "Kurier":

"Prince Alberts children unwelcome"
Prince Alberts born out of wedlock children disinvited for fairytale wedding

short summary:
- everyone is talking about who will attend the wedding
- nobody asks: who will not attend:
- the two children Albert already has!
- they have a financially ensured future and good education
BUT: they must miss Albert as a person and father
- it must hurt the boy and the girl to hear their father tell the media that he wants to have children with CW
- CW confirmed that she loves children so much and they can't wait to have a baby
- Albert pays money but when Jazmin finished High School Albert did not attend the celebration "he was prevented for any reason".

kurier.at/freizeit/leute/3916837.php
Bei der Märchenhochzeit in Monaco sind die unehelichen Kinder des Bräutigams ausgeladen.
Prinz Alberts Kinder unerwünscht
Viel wird im Moment über die bevorstehende Hochzeit von Fürst Albert mit der südafrikanischen Ex-Schwimmerin Charlene Wittstock am 2. Juli in Monaco geschrieben. Was die Braut tragen wird, welche Gäste kommen - ein Thema jedoch scheint totgeschwiegen zu werden: die unehelichen Kinder des Fürsten, Jazmin Grace Rotolo und Alexandre Coste , die vermutlich nicht an der Märchenhochzeit in Monaco teilnehmen werden.

Obwohl Albert seine Kinder offiziell anerkannt hat, gelten sie doch nur als "Familie zweiter Klasse". Die 19-jährige Tochter stammt aus einer Beziehung mit der amerikanischen Kellnerin Tamara Roloto (49). Sein siebenjähriger Sohn ging aus einer Liaison mit der togolesischen Stewardess Nicole Coste hervor. 2005, nach dem Tod von Fürst Rainier bestätigte Alberts Anwalt im Abstand von wenigen Monaten beide Vaterschaften. Die Gerüchteküche wollte damals nicht verstummen.





Schmerzhaft müssen die Kinder, die per Gesetz keinen Anspruch auf den Thron von Monaco haben, im Moment mitverfolgen, wie ihr Vater offen über seinen Kinderwunsch spricht: "Wir möchten Kinder haben! Ich denke, wir haben uns für diese Entscheidung ausreichend Zeit gelassen." Seine südafrikanische Verlobte, Charlene Wittstock, bestätigte das in einem Interview: "Ich liebe Kinder, und wir haben vor, eine Familie zu gründen. Wir hoffen, dass wir bald ein Baby bekommen."

Die gute Nachricht: die beiden Kinder sind finanziell abgesichert. Jazmin wuchs in Palms Springs auf und studiert seit Kurzem an der amerikanischen Universität Fordham, Alexandre geht derzeit in Frankreich zur Schule. Ebenso haben sie - so steht es im Gesetz - Anspruch auf das Erbe des Fürsten, das auf eine Milliarde Dollar geschätzt wird. Dennoch: Geld kann einen Vater nicht ersetzen. Bei der Feier von Jazmins Highschool-Abschluss war Albert terminlich verhindert.

[refia]

He is the Prince of Monaco, but that´s not an excuse to miss important stations of their lives. I know their mothers are a pain in the ass for Albert, but that´s life.

[margarita]

Nicole Coste intensified her fight for Alex to get the throne.
I'll try to post an article from one German tabloid later.

It states that Albert met Nicole for quite a long time while being already with Charlene! Looks like he tried to build up a relationship with his son!
If so: big point for Albert.

And the article states that Charlene had a hard time with it.

So I wouldn't be surprised if children-loving-super-future-wannabe-mama Charlene did what she could for Albert seing his son more seldom if at all.

I know - sometimes the problem is the mother of the child.
And in Alberts case rather no woman could be sure if he sees only his child and has no ... with Nicole.

But in the end of the day it is Charlene (& team) & this union who splitted Albert and Alexandre. (The more if give-us-a-break CW gets pregnant because suddently she loves kids so much...)

With CW getting the title her role as bad step mother will be ensured in the public eye. Because without CW there was always hope for Albert to have a better relationship with his children.

Albert should marry Monaco, care for Alex and Jazmin (without a new wife that is jealeous) and call of this mess of a "fairy-tale-wedding". That's it.

[countess]

i heard (not really paying attention) an entertainment reporter make a comment about "another royal wedding" blah blah blah "it remains to be seen if his illegitimate children will be invited". i think that might be the big story in the US>>>>not the wedding but his children not being invited. ROFL

[mrszinck]

I Agree Countess.
And therefore they will not be present.

[sandsla]

Actually, I totally agree with the decision to not have them at the wedding, for the reason that Albert does not seem to have a very close relationship with them, especially publicly, which I can sympathize with him here a little considering how they were conceived, and why their mothers wanted them conceived. Albert was reckless there is no denying that, and he probably needs to try to have some kind of relationship with them, especially since the mothers have never been interested in moving on in there own lives and finding their kids a nice step father to help raise them, instead of trying to force a man who they knew never signed up for the job--the mothers knew the deal when they made every effort to bring these children into the world--they used them as pawns, so considering that, who can say is the better parent??? These kids were their meal ticket, and they used them as that.

If Albert had a real relationship with his kids, then of course I'm sure he would have them at his wedding, as you would expect anyone getting married if one had kids previously to marrying someone, legitimate or illegitimate. But my feeling is that a marriage is "suppose to be" about the two people getting married, and not about the kids, or someone just trying to promote themselves through their kids. I see no point in creating a bigger ruse and circus than this whole charade is already going to be.

I think even if Albert was getting married to someone more appropriate and for the right reasons, he should probably still exclude the kids from the event, because the press does not know them and they would make a circus of the event no matter who he was marrying (it's unfair to the bride) The mothers of these kids would just see it as another opportunity to insert themselves into Albert's life and in the press again, which looks like they might have already started trying to do that .

Maybe it's just me, but I just don't see why it is important that people think Albert should promote these kids or his relationship with them, whatever it is, publicly in the press.

Jazmin is probably old enough that if she was invited and there for the right reasons, she might try to be discreet and try not to be a spectacle or a topic of the event, but we all know what Nicole would do--it might be hard for Albert to invite one of the kids and not the other, and what are you going to do about the moms?

I just think it is more appropriate that they are not there for this considering Albert doesn't really share his life with them anyway, plus the whole thing is just a big ruse? so why should it be important that they attend, plus his kids are part of his private life, which is the "one thing" he has been smart enough to "keep private", but that is also precisely why the press would be all over it if these kids were very visible there--they would have a field day if Albert had them there in a very public way. Quite frankly if I was the bride, I wouldn't think that my own wedding would be the appropriate moment to introduce Albert's illegitimate children to the world, especially if he barely knows them. It's not about the kids, it's about the press, and how these kids mothers' have already try to use the press to exploit both Albert and their own kids.

I do agree considering Albert is their biological father he should at least try to foster some kind of relationship with them some day (if he hasn't already), but that might not be possible for him now, not until they are independent from their mothers anyway, which is a little sad, but then that is probably mostly both of the mothers' fault.

[sandsla]

Jun 24, 2011 9:08:42 GMT -5 margarita said:

Nicole Coste intensified her fight for Alex to get the throne.
I'll try to post an article from one German tabloid later.

It states that Albert met Nicole for quite a long time while being already with Charlene! Looks like he tried to build up a relationship with his son!
If so: big point for Albert.

And the article states that Charlene had a hard time with it.

So I wouldn't be surprised if children-loving-super-future-wannabe-mama Charlene did what she could for Albert seing his son more seldom if at all.

I know - sometimes the problem is the mother of the child.
And in Alberts case rather no woman could be sure if he sees only his child and has no ... with Nicole.

But in the end of the day it is Charlene (& team) & this union who splitted Albert and Alexandre. (The more if give-us-a-break CW gets pregnant because suddently she loves kids so much...)

With CW getting the title her role as bad step mother will be ensured in the public eye. Because without CW there was always hope for Albert to have a better relationship with his children.

Albert should marry Monaco, care for Alex and Jazmin (without a new wife that is jealeous) and call of this mess of a "fairy-tale-wedding". That's it.

Margarita, it is Nicole's own fault that made it impossible for Albert to have much of a relationship with Alex, or Eric as he was originally named . I don't want to repeat it all here again, but I guess I will ;D. When Albert would come to visit Alex (known as Eric at the time), she took that opportunity to set him up and to try to ambush him. I think her cousins that were involved with the plot were arrested and I think actually charged, they called in Nicole to talk, but they couldn't charge her with anything, because she lied about knowing where her cousins got the pictures Nicole no doubt had given the pictures to her cousins to shop around to tabloids--they were trying to get the paparazzi to lie in wait, when Albert came to visit Alex, he had let her take some pictures of himself with Alex when he came to see the baby, and then she tried shopping them around to ambush Albert. France is more protective of people like Albert, and the ambush thing is a problem anywhere. I think it was Paris Match that called the authorities on them. I only saw and read about this once or twice...about the whole set up and the cousins being arrested and the police wanting to talk with her? She used this as an excuse also why she had to do the big expose..weirdly it was Paris Match I think? I might have a few of my facts wrong, but that is how I remembered it? Nicole supposing repeatedly tried sending some pictures to Rainier on his deathbed too. She's a piece of work! Then of course she did that expose and outed Albert as soon as he took reign, in some ways these mothers are responsible for Charlene being there--Charlene was suppose to be a distraction from them, but you don't distract with something that is worse, than what your trying to distract from. It just made Albert appear immature and not very statesman like to promote his private life, never mind what they were trying to promote? Charlene and Nicole are both capable of knocking each other off or any other woman that gets in their way, that was the reason Nicole got pregnant! She was afraid Albert was about to marry Alecia--Charlene was not much of a fixture in Albert's life then, I don't think? From Nicole's own interview she was basically a once a month booty call (when they were seeing each other often), but then lshe's ike Charlene, she would not go away when Albert tried to end it, and I think at one time she had inserted herself into Albert's Paris Apt, no doubt with some sob story (she was still married)--maybe that was after she got pregnant I don't know? In Nicole's own words, Albert told her when she got pregnant that she shouldn't expect that he would be marring her, but she thought she might be able to force him to. I know personally that this woman is one disturbed lady, Albert needs to have her banned from Monaco--at least he is lucky that Tamara stayed far enough away to not bother him too much, but she also has been living off of him ever since and she knew him for about 5 minutes . Albert has a hard time embracing these kids because their mothers have always wanted to move in and put their kids on the throne! It is as much or more the mothers faults that Albert doesn't have a relationship with these kids, and they will grow up one day and understand that i think.

[suite583]

Has anybody pics from the two year old child of PA? Please, send them here!!!!

[margarita]

Sandsla - I understand and agree with what you said about the mothers.
(I know some cases of fathers who are desperate to have a good relation to their children and it is the mother that makes it impossible. It is soooo cruel and it is soooo unfair to blame always the father. Women often try to emotional blackmail men using children and I understand everyone who protects himself ... and the child from being used as an instrument.)

Alberts children will grow up (Jazmin already is old enough to build a relationship to her father without having her mother involved.)

But instead being ready to welcome them when time is ripe - there might be Charlene (and -sorry- God beware) children of Charlene which she wants to see on the throne and turn even more into a beast then now to reach that aim - it is about power and egoism of mothers - not about the kids or Monaco.
Charlene & team (Stahl?) will do everything to prevent an emotional relationship between Alex/ Jazmin and Albert.
They want the spotlight on CW's children.
Do you imagine how good it was for Alberts kids and Albert himself (and his reputation) to become a good father for them?
And do you read reports of Albert having become a real father for Alex/ Jazmin in the media one day? I can see that in future.
And I see CW furious. So in the end of the day it it Charlene who stands in the way. If Albert don't get her out of the way.

Albert should really not marry and prepare Carolines children.
Plus think about sterilization. I'm not kidding.
Have fun, don't marry, be you. People will love you then - or at least respect.

[axelle]

Jun 25, 2011 3:04:35 GMT -5 @suite583 said:

Has anybody pics from the two year old child of PA? Please, send them here!!!!

I can't wait to see more of this!!! In fact two posts on Eringer's formstring:

Police stopped CW at Nice airport, marriage terms now being 'renegotiated' following discovery of a pregnant arabic woman in Beausoleil

ANON: Charlene Whittstock has tried to leave Monaco (boarding a flight from Nice) 2 times: the second time being succefull + It has emerged that Albert has another son... True or not...Charlene Whittstock is currently NOT in MC.

A couple posters have eluded to a toddler son, and Charlene's supposed alleged discovery of this last week. No further info.

[cm7007]

Hey! I have a thought - albeit an idiotic one- Maybe Stahl had some of her eggs harvested and frozen years ago and her plan is to have them fertilized with PA's sperm and implanted in CW so HER child can inherit whatever she's after!!!