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Post by suite583 on Jul 31, 2011 8:38:00 GMT -5
The paternity tests and the catfight. What is the common between them? They did pay off so highly so palace will do the way of less resistance by Fatal.
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Post by MyAdia on Jul 31, 2011 12:04:54 GMT -5
I posted in this post the Paris Match article about Albert addressing the rumors while Charlene remains silent. The article also addresses an issue that Lacoste raised in that TV program about Alexandre and being an heir. The reporter makes it clear that Monesgasques do not want to even think about Alexdandre being Albert's heir. Nicole and her flunkies read here and they are the ones posting all over the Internet (especially Eringer blog) about Monesgasques wanting Albert to make Alexadre his heir. But seriously, that is such a bunch of bull and absolutely ridiculous! These people preferred that Albert married the trashy dumb-as-arock bimbo that he doesn't even love than Alexandre (or Jazmin) being his heir. After the program, Albert even had to calm their fears by saying that was not a possibility. Why did Lacoste even bring this idea up? Was it to make the people love and support Charlene and this marriage? Or is this just another example of Lacoste's incompetency? Such a beautiful summer visitors would have fallen asleep in the sun, the Principality wakes up with the leather significantly. Monegasques are looking for any gesture, any evidence that would refute - or confirm - the sounds. When the lawyer Thierry Lacoste slip in the program "C in the air" on France 5, Alexander, son Albert had with the former flight attendant Nicole Coste in 2003 and recognized in 2005, could one day be legitimized and therefore access to the order of succession, the Rock does not believe his ears. The Constitution was amended in 2002 by Rainier, precisely to prevent this kind of situation. Article 10 provides for what can only claim the throne "direct and legitimate offspring of the reigning prince." In other words, children born in wedlock. If there are not "succession operates for the benefit of brothers and sisters of the prince," says the article. Alexander to claim the throne, it would still change the Constitution."Why mention this possibility when the prince is to marry for, as we all hope, legitimate children, which will automatically be rulers?" Asks a Monegasque, completely disoriented. Once again, Albert had to clarify things: "There is no question of legitimacy of children born out of wedlock," he said.
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Post by countess on Jul 31, 2011 12:25:53 GMT -5
Why did Lacoste even bring this idea up? Was it to make the people love and support Charlene and this marriage? Or is this just another example of Lacoste's incompetency?
wow thanks for clearing up some questions for me, i just need to remember it's orwell's 1984 in moronaco. nothing is as it seems, and it's all smoke and mirrors.
i gotta vote for incompetency, all the monkey flunkies are just idiots but FatAl is most stupid. smart stupid people hire people smarter than themselves, but not FATaL, put all of them in the room with nondynamic duo and you still get a below 50 IQ
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Post by paca on Jul 31, 2011 14:58:39 GMT -5
sand in the eyes. Just like jumping on the suggestion of democracy. Have you noticed that ALbert is only giving interviews to the national press when the international press is actually jumping on the no love story? Of course you can argue it is because he can influence local press. But apart from no tourists coming to MC Alberts problems are at home and not abroad. And when you have problems at home you speak to local press first which is read by those people whom you are hoping to influence in your favour, not to international press who might only give you 2 lines in the miscellaneous section. you want to be heard or read in this case. Alberts problem is though that everyone knows that there is no independent local press so this is not working in his favour, but in contrast doing the opposite. People do not trust the local press. What they are doing by putting out info like legitimizing the kids or jumping on the democracy is only to the purpose of distracting people and getting them off focusing on what is really important: Alberts competence as their leader or better the lack there off. Also by getting people to discuss different topics they are stopping them from uniting their forces. This is typical political behaviour and people tend to forget that Albert after all is a politician and not just a stock character on the tabloids. Not many other princes have to be politically active. Albert does, even though he is bad at it. Albert needs to send some flowers to Prousts grave for ridding him of Valery. Because with Valery in the COnseil National, Albert would be gone tomorrow. Not that Valery is particularly cunning in ways of politics. Otherwise he would have realized that he was much more powerful in the COnseil National then he is now. At least he got the people on his side, now he is working against them. He has discredited himself and that's what Proust wanted.
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Post by hibou on Jul 31, 2011 15:15:47 GMT -5
Points well take paca. The truth is that Albert needs to step down. He has made a mess out of everything. At this point, I think a democracy would be the best for Monaco. It won't stop the corruption but at least people will be in somewhat more control than they are now, and if they don't like the people in control, they can vote them out of office. I think Albert is now waging a loosing battle unless he fires his lawyer and PR person and actually hires competent people. If he had let the no love story and third kid story die down, people would have moved on from it. Instead his incompetent lawyer is urging him to speak up about it. He should have gone on his honeymoon and come back and moved onto other things. This is just stupid and as far as the politics of it, it's outdated methodology. It worked for Rainier because there was no internet and news on line. Speaking to the people in the Monaco Hebdo won't accomplish a thing. JMO.
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Post by paca on Jul 31, 2011 16:25:17 GMT -5
the stories in the international press would have died down, not the criticism about the leadership. Keeping the press and people occupied with his private life stops them from looking at the real problems. I think that at present Albert is so desperate that he actually has to keep this bad press going to buy time to find a solution or get trashy pregnant. That's probably their major plan: getting her pregnant to keep people on the private life and off his professional incompetence. that way he doesn't have to actually do anything and can hope that the problems will go away by themselves. they won't and then trashy has to pop out another kid. Or they will find sth else to keep the media busy. MC is at the point that they have to get rid of all Grimaldis and become a democracy. MC has to become a good place for the citizens to live. The rest will eventually come by itself. AT least as a democracy they would have the country they want and won't be treated like ignorant children with a learning disability. There are lots of people smarter then Albert in MC who are successful business people. I am sure that they would be able to contribute their knowledge in a democracy much better then they can now. MC needs to strive for excellence and not remaining in mediocrity aiming for worse.
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Post by hibou on Jul 31, 2011 17:30:32 GMT -5
the stories in the international press would have died down, not the criticism about the leadership. Keeping the press and people occupied with his private life stops them from looking at the real problems. I think that at present Albert is so desperate that he actually has to keep this bad press going to buy time to find a solution or get trashy pregnant. That's probably their major plan: getting her pregnant to keep people on the private life and off his professional incompetence. that way he doesn't have to actually do anything and can hope that the problems will go away by themselves. they won't and then trashy has to pop out another kid. Or they will find sth else to keep the media busy. MC is at the point that they have to get rid of all Grimaldis and become a democracy. MC has to become a good place for the citizens to live. The rest will eventually come by itself. AT least as a democracy they would have the country they want and won't be treated like ignorant children with a learning disability. There are lots of people smarter then Albert in MC who are successful business people. I am sure that they would be able to contribute their knowledge in a democracy much better then they can now. MC needs to strive for excellence and not remaining in mediocrity aiming for worse. Is there any real chance of getting a democracy and having Albert step down as ruler?
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Post by paca on Jul 31, 2011 18:06:32 GMT -5
I don't see why not. If the people want that, I don't see how he can remain in power against the peoples wishes. If the crowncouncil, which is supposed to act in the interest of the prince but as well in the interest of the people declares him unfit to rule, they can force him to step down. Of course it would be then for Caro, her kids and Steph and her kids to not make claims either. But I don't think that there is a real interest. They might opt for a constitutional monarchy, but since Albert did not represent them well and Caro did a good job, they might prefer her. If they do change the constitution, they could get rid of the male dominance rule as well. Thus Caro would be legitimate and of all of them she is the most respected. Her kids might not be apt to rule, but to represent they would do. But most important would be for MC to strip the Grimaldis off their political power. Of course the palace etc, everything that Rainier tied to the title, would then belong to the state and could only be used by whoever holds the title. I don't think that Caro would have a problem with that, but Albert would as he would suddenly stop being considered a billionaire, but just have a few hundred million. and without the title the media would stop reporting on him. Guess how long trashy would stick around. Especially when suddenly they would have to spend their own money
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Post by axelle on Aug 14, 2011 17:21:24 GMT -5
We never heard anything about the paternity tests did we?
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Post by paca on Aug 14, 2011 17:41:06 GMT -5
and we won't. Not this time. trashy can't have that. too humiliating for her. But you can tell the result by her spending spree...the more she spends and the less Albert stops her, the more kids and mistresses are out there.
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Post by cm7007 on Aug 14, 2011 17:58:15 GMT -5
and we won't. Not this time. trashy can't have that. too humiliating for her. But you can tell the result by her spending spree...the more she spends and the less Albert stops her, the more kids and mistresses are out there. So true. But somehow I don't think the press is going to allow this to fade away. It's too juicy and will sell way too many papers. Sooner or later - and I think sooner-someone will find out the truth and it will be revealed to all.
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Post by paca on Aug 14, 2011 18:13:10 GMT -5
depends on whether or not they will be offering more to the moms to talk then PA and trashy for them to not talk. He surely won't be spending time with the kids. He doesn't with those who are official, so he will even less with those who are not. Considering Alberts age and seeing that trashy is not the youngest either, I wonder how things would turn for his healthy unofficial kids, if he was ever having a special needs child as a first born from this marriage....
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Post by blue j on Aug 14, 2011 19:26:49 GMT -5
I really hope that those two would not breed.
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Post by axelle on Aug 14, 2011 20:33:33 GMT -5
and we won't. Not this time. trashy can't have that. too humiliating for her. But you can tell the result by her spending spree...the more she spends and the less Albert stops her, the more kids and mistresses are out there. I think you are right!
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Post by monaco on Aug 29, 2011 7:11:02 GMT -5
About as terrible as it can get, I hope we can find out what happened. Really disturbing! This is a reference to the mother : your March 13th 'METTE HERMANSEN' blog entry is the most enlightening and revealing so far (considering the 2003 tragedy with her 19 year old daughter) was MH introduced to Albert in 1984? ask Endre Røsjø (1944) of Banque Franck, Galland & Sie S.A Genève Noted. And earlier www.eringer33.com/2011/03/meet-mette-hermansen.htmlWhat? Her daughter died? How? Where is this blog entry?
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Post by hibou on Aug 29, 2011 7:49:21 GMT -5
About as terrible as it can get, I hope we can find out what happened. Really disturbing! This is a reference to the mother : your March 13th 'METTE HERMANSEN' blog entry is the most enlightening and revealing so far (considering the 2003 tragedy with her 19 year old daughter) was MH introduced to Albert in 1984? ask Endre Røsjø (1944) of Banque Franck, Galland & Sie S.A Genève Noted. And earlier www.eringer33.com/2011/03/meet-mette-hermansen.htmlWhat? Her daughter died? How? Where is this blog entry? It was the daughter in Norway not Jazmin. It was a post on Eringer's formspring a while back. Eringer confirmed her death but declined to give the details. It's all any one knows. We don't even know her name.
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Post by monaco on Sept 6, 2011 5:58:51 GMT -5
The girl in Norway is alive. She is still active on Facebook so I guess she is still alive. I can't find the prev. mentioned blog??
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Post by hibou on Sept 6, 2011 7:36:34 GMT -5
The girl in Norway is alive. She is still active on Facebook so I guess she is still alive. I can't find the prev. mentioned blog?? Eringer said she was dead, but he did not specifically say Norway (at least I don't think he did). May be she wanted people to believe she was dead so that she would be left alone? If you have proof, may be you can send Eringer an e-mail and correct the situation?
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Post by hibou on Mar 9, 2012 9:07:38 GMT -5
It's being reported that Jazmin was seen at a Betsey Johnson fashion show. Anybody heard this info?
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Post by mrplowfan on Mar 9, 2012 21:53:19 GMT -5
This popped up in Google but I didn't find a forum it was in. Perhaps paca can read it? twitter.com/#!/alystagency/status/177801512876122112/photo/1
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