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Post by mrplowfan on May 14, 2011 18:10:01 GMT -5
No not in the real world. First of all this not the Var, we are Alpes maritimes. If he would do anything like that, Nicole would be going straight to the human rights court. They already have a problem with human rights seeing how they handled the Monica fristedt case(read the bimcam site) : all you need in Monaco is a crumpled piece of paper and calling it a search warrant to open you the doors to an apartment, taking whatever pleases you and then you get away with it. In any other European state a lot of heads would roll. Not in Monaco. Same goes for the Hobbs Melville case, which was a complete farce. then look at how they covered their butts in the Saffra case....these are just a few prominent cases. A minor one was were an old woman was woken, because they were tearing down her house...with her still inside. So they would want to avoid extra media attention. Remember that they only settled the organist affair due to international pressure. Albert only acts on pressure not on morals. He got away with Tamara, because she let him. I don't consider any of the babymamas particularly smart or educated. yes they had lawyers working for them, but a lawyer is only as good as the info he receives from you and knows what you want to achieve. I see that with my ex who lives with his lawyer in lala land because he doesn't know which papers I have and what the legal consequences are. Also the lawyers arguing depends on what you want to achieve: have money and a privileged lifestyle or someone involved in raising your child. Tamara seems to have wanted the good life, her daughter a father. Seems that the mother already didn't act in the interest of her child. poor kid. Nicole wants recognition, not necessarily the money 5not that she minds it). But she doesn't want recognition for her son but for herself. Another mother who puts herself in front of her child. A mother with primarily her child's interest at heart would have fought a different fight. Albert made out of court arrangements with both mothers. If they aren't happy with it, they can take him to court. these women forget why Albert doesn't want to go to court. Jazmin is now at the age that she can fight her own battles and she should. she has now the chance to fight for her interests and distance herself from her mother. She has to know what she wants, what her rights are and then go for it. then again legal battles take a lot of energy and she might just move on and make the best of her life. With her dad it would most likely turn a mess, so better stay clear from him. Don't countries kick people out all the time? Why would keeping Nicole out of Monaco violate her human rights? She's not gotten Monaco citizenship, she's from Togo. I'm not aware that Monaco recognizes the world court although they use it. Nicole could sue but Albert could claim Sovereign immunity. I also heard their absence was mentioned. It had to be on the View because I watch ABC in the mornings. I didn't hear all of it, I was in the other room. I think that their people must follow some of the boards because the sugars don't allow anyone to mention it.
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Post by paca on May 14, 2011 19:05:36 GMT -5
No not in the real world. First of all this not the Var, we are Alpes maritimes. If he would do anything like that, Nicole would be going straight to the human rights court. They already have a problem with human rights seeing how they handled the Monica fristedt case(read the bimcam site) : all you need in Monaco is a crumpled piece of paper and calling it a search warrant to open you the doors to an apartment, taking whatever pleases you and then you get away with it. In any other European state a lot of heads would roll. Not in Monaco. Same goes for the Hobbs Melville case, which was a complete farce. then look at how they covered their butts in the Saffra case....these are just a few prominent cases. A minor one was were an old woman was woken, because they were tearing down her house...with her still inside. So they would want to avoid extra media attention. Remember that they only settled the organist affair due to international pressure. Albert only acts on pressure not on morals. He got away with Tamara, because she let him. I don't consider any of the babymamas particularly smart or educated. yes they had lawyers working for them, but a lawyer is only as good as the info he receives from you and knows what you want to achieve. I see that with my ex who lives with his lawyer in lala land because he doesn't know which papers I have and what the legal consequences are. Also the lawyers arguing depends on what you want to achieve: have money and a privileged lifestyle or someone involved in raising your child. Tamara seems to have wanted the good life, her daughter a father. Seems that the mother already didn't act in the interest of her child. poor kid. Nicole wants recognition, not necessarily the money 5not that she minds it). But she doesn't want recognition for her son but for herself. Another mother who puts herself in front of her child. A mother with primarily her child's interest at heart would have fought a different fight. Albert made out of court arrangements with both mothers. If they aren't happy with it, they can take him to court. these women forget why Albert doesn't want to go to court. Jazmin is now at the age that she can fight her own battles and she should. she has now the chance to fight for her interests and distance herself from her mother. She has to know what she wants, what her rights are and then go for it. then again legal battles take a lot of energy and she might just move on and make the best of her life. With her dad it would most likely turn a mess, so better stay clear from him. Don't countries kick people out all the time? Why would keeping Nicole out of Monaco violate her human rights? She's not gotten Monaco citizenship, she's from Togo. I'm not aware that Monaco recognizes the world court although they use it. Nicole could sue but Albert could claim Sovereign immunity. I also heard their absence was mentioned. It had to be on the View because I watch ABC in the mornings. I didn't hear all of it, I was in the other room. I think that their people must follow some of the boards because the sugars don't allow anyone to mention it. you were saying that he should use his power to remove her from the area and mentioned the Var, which is French territory. I corrected you stating that this is ALpes Maritimes. In any case, Nicole has valid papers to stay in France. Unless she commits a major crime, and even then, there is no reason to have her removed from this area. As Monaco is part of the Schengen space she does not need permission to enter Monaco. She would have to infringe the law even in Monaco to not be allowed to enter the country. Of course they can make sth up, but she could still complain to the court of human rights if she wants to. It certainly would draw media attention to Monaco and probably more then that wedding circus. it would draw attention to other cases where Monaco justice acted negligent or even infringed the law.
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Post by grimnir on May 15, 2011 9:22:33 GMT -5
No not in the real world. First of all this not the Var, we are Alpes maritimes. If he would do anything like that, Nicole would be going straight to the human rights court. They already have a problem with human rights seeing how they handled the Monica fristedt case(read the bimcam site) : all you need in Monaco is a crumpled piece of paper and calling it a search warrant to open you the doors to an apartment, taking whatever pleases you and then you get away with it. In any other European state a lot of heads would roll. Not in Monaco. She would have to sue Albert and not the state. And we have seen what happens: Albert claims immunity. Forget sueing Albert, it's not going to happen in his lifetime anymore. Not by his children, not by his babymamas, not by anyone. Diplomatic immunity and absolute power, you don't stand a chance. "WHERE were the children" "Children not invited" "evil step-mother forbids the grooms children" OH it could be good, REEALLLLLLLLLLLLLl good. come on ENQUIRer or STAR, we want coverage of those poor, unloved and sad children <<<< HEADLINE If any magazine or paper was inclined to write this stuff, they already had. They can make a mountain out of a molehill and so far the Grimaldis and It have had an extremely easy ride. No negative press worth a mention, the Times article didn't make any waves and is already old news. I'm almost inclined to start my own conspiracy theory...
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Post by taz on May 16, 2011 3:25:54 GMT -5
Bild: Prince Albert and his Charlene - Does a happy couple look like this? They say that they are still sending out invitations and that the British royal family won't send anybody to the wedding because they are angry that PA and C were late for the Queen's reception. Bild is the worst kind of tabloid so when they write something positive I hardly believe them because usually they know nothing and it's the same when they write something negative. We'll see if someone from the BRF will attend. But nevertheless it's "good" that the press is turning negative...
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Post by margarita on May 16, 2011 4:03:43 GMT -5
Thanks TAZ! Wow! BILD is read even in the first class coaches by people in expensive business clothes ... who pretend never to read BILD And BILD is bought by millions of classical BUNTE readers. So THIS turn is a SERIOUS problem for the Palace flunkies. For many tabloids it's a bit like a lead-medium. That means there will be more negative press. PLUS: Only last week I found four tabloids in Germany turning against CW and this wedding. I will post them later today when I found out how to insert pics in posts ... I'm too silly to insert pics in posts!
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Post by MyAdia on May 16, 2011 6:27:28 GMT -5
Bild: Prince Albert and his Charlene - Does a happy couple look like this? They say that they are still sending out invitations and that the British royal family won't send anybody to the wedding because they are angry that PA and C were late for the Queen's reception. Bild is the worst kind of tabloid so when they write something positive I hardly believe them because usually they know nothing and it's the same when they write something negative. We'll see if someone from the BRF will attend. But nevertheless it's "good" that the press is turning negative... Thanks Taz! I am glad that Bild is reporting the story, although Bild just repeated everything in the Sunday Time article about everything being a fiasco. I am sure that the Brits are sending a rep to the wedding. They are probably turning against Conlene because she stopped talking to them. Charlene is a con artist people - con artists use people and then dumped them when they are no longer needed. Conlene was chummy with ALL the European press when she wanted them to promote her as the best choice for the next princess of Monaco. She was coy with Albert as if she didn't like the press, but we know that was a LIE. Here's Conlene posing at the Mandela fundraiser in Monaco with Bild's Chief reporter Malte Bliss who used to work for Bunte. I don't know which one Malte is with now since you can find this photo with captions that says he's a bunte reporter and one that says he's a Bild reporter - but he's a reporter posing with the con artist.
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Post by margarita on May 16, 2011 11:21:31 GMT -5
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Post by margarita on May 16, 2011 11:23:04 GMT -5
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Post by margarita on May 16, 2011 11:30:53 GMT -5
sorry - have no time to translate the posted articles - maybe someone else could please ?
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Post by MyAdia on May 16, 2011 11:41:30 GMT -5
Thanks Margarita, these two articles are repeating the issues rose in the Sunday Times articles, so some in the media are not afraid to address these issues. I am sure Stahl already called their regular sycophantic press (mainly Point de Vue and then Paris Match, Gala, and perhaps Bunte) to run cover stores by giving them some "exclusive" details about the wedding. So, at least expect a cover this week from Point de Vue with both Charlene and Albert on it. Perhaps they will use one of Charlene's hanging on tightly photos for the its cover since Charlene was so nice to set it up for them.
But, Monaco can forget about buying the euphoria that was surrounding William and Kate's wedding. Albert, your money really cannot buy everything.
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Post by countess on May 16, 2011 13:36:55 GMT -5
The image of the Principality is hit, a wedding would be to appeal to Viagra's for Monaco 's image
sometimes i LOVE google translate ROFL
keep that bad press coming, i'm finding it all quiet amusing ;D
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Post by margarita on May 17, 2011 4:46:24 GMT -5
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Post by margarita on May 17, 2011 4:54:23 GMT -5
Heve to correct myself: Schweizer Illustrierte had some "no fairy tale" articles long before Sunday Times: www.schweizer-illustrierte.ch/stars/fuerst-albert-von-monaco-in-st-moritz-dicke-luft-am-hof-wegen-schweiz-tripClick on the gallery to see the pics. In short: Albert went to Oberengardin alone while CW stayed in Monaco. Was that the reason for the icy way they looked at each other? Albert had a very good time in the snow and you can see how happy he was when you click at the gallery pics. Only one day later he was back in Monaco again watching a game in the stadion. His fiance was sitting next to him but did not seem to be amused. Only four month before they are supposed to get married!
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Post by margarita on May 17, 2011 5:26:37 GMT -5
Thanks MyaDia for the upload instruction! I'll try my very best First test: [/img] Attachments:
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Post by margarita on May 17, 2011 5:34:20 GMT -5
ok - I'm a technical anti-talent . Nonetheless: here is part I. of the article. Hope you don't mind the quality of the images Translation/ summary follows. Attachments:
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Post by margarita on May 17, 2011 6:02:58 GMT -5
And here part II. of the Heim & Welt article. Summary: Is the burden already too heavy for her?In July the whole world will focus on the tiny Principality - and the civic bride. Charlene Wittstock looks depressedHer eyes look to a place far away. Again and again her fingers touch her perfectly styled hair. At official events the fiancée of Prince Albert looks always perfectly styled. But how does she feel inside? Every step of her will judgedDuring the past month CW looked less and less like a happy bride-to-be looking fwd to get wed. Right the opposite. Most of all this was recognizable at the wedding of William and Catherine: She tried to stay in the background. Was she only trying to be decent? Or is there another reason? Maybe Charlene Wittstock understood in London how high the expectations will be 1. and 2. July in Monaco? Every single detail and movement of her is going to be noticed and judged. (... outfit/ voice/ make-up/ hands...) From the very first day she will have to do a perfect job 24h/ day Maybe one of the reasons for Charlene Wittstocks depressed mood is the fact that she has to come up to the expectations of her new role from the very first day. While Catherine and William can live two years in Anglesey and Catherine can start to warm up with official events step by step Charlene doesn't have this advantage. From the first day one official event will follow the next without time to rest. (...) Let's hope Charlene Wittstock has learned enough during the past years and Albert will help her. Since many years she already accompanies the Prince at official events. But is this enough to be prepared for the role? Attachments:
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Post by margarita on May 17, 2011 6:19:49 GMT -5
And here comes part I. of the Heim & Welt article (edition 9. Mai): Another woman steels her the thunder! Attachments:
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Post by margarita on May 17, 2011 6:31:55 GMT -5
summary: Another woman steels her the thunder!Charlene Wittstock rather wasn't prepared for this - and it happened while she was looking fwd for her own big day When Catherine Middleton entered Westminster Abbey the whole world was watching and holding the breath. Her wedding gown was definitly in Grace-Kelly-style!(details about the dress...) How will Charlene Wittstock react now?During all the past years she had choosen dresses very similar like Grace Kelly - that's why the whole world expected Charlene Wittstock to wear a Grace-Kelly-style dress at her wedding. And probably she planned to do this favour to the monegasque people. But Catherine unintentionally stole that thunder from Charlene. Let's see how she will tackle this challenge. Surely she will be a beautiful bride. Attachments:
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Post by margarita on May 17, 2011 6:37:53 GMT -5
HOCHZEITS PANNE - WEDDING FAILURE (from Echo der Frau, 11.05.2011) summary: Let's wait and see whether the wedding of Prince Albert and Charlene Wittstock will be a fairy tale wedding or wedding failure. Even before the event a many things fail: The date had to be changed, the location of the dinner had to be changed, the Casino employers striked and could strike again, the wedding invitations are not all send out yet... Attachments:
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Post by margarita on May 17, 2011 6:45:02 GMT -5
NEUE POST 11.05.2011: Albert & Charlene LOVE DRAME WILL THE WEDDING TAKE PLACE? Attachments:
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