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Post by grimnir on Mar 30, 2012 11:42:27 GMT -5
If I was Beausoleil, I'd start bombing those towers... Who would want a huge tower in his front yard, blocking out view, sun and light? When he started Albert wondered how many people the country could hold. It seems he has decided: lots more than there are now.
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Post by ladybug on Mar 30, 2012 12:37:19 GMT -5
The new towers (at least the one I saw) stand out rather hideously! I've been away from Monaco for a while. When I went back not that long ago they were pretty far along on one that looked like Swiss cheese! I was driving so I didn't look at it too long.. Maybe it won't look as bad that, but in my opinion they really ruin the place.....
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Post by grimnir on Mar 30, 2012 14:33:58 GMT -5
Did I read it rightly in the official paper? Was there an appeal for candidates for a study or proposal for a new land extension in Fontvieille?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2012 1:43:19 GMT -5
The new towers (at least the one I saw) stand out rather hideously! I've been away from Monaco for a while. When I went back not that long ago they were pretty far along on one that looked like Swiss cheese! I was driving so I didn't look at it too long.. Maybe it won't look as bad that, but in my opinion they really ruin the place..... Ladybug, what do you think would be better solution?
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Post by ladybug on Mar 31, 2012 8:22:33 GMT -5
Lavetta, I really don't have an answer for that. I don't even know which tower I saw. It had Pastor signs on it, though! I don't mind progress. Growth and change is necessary for any city/state. In relation to buildings, sometimes aesthetically it works, and sometimes it does not. There are many talented architects and planners who can successfully marry new structures and modern design in a complementary way with the existing landscape. Only going by the one I saw, that was not the case. Perhaps it was too vertically oriented, thus protruding and making quite an eyesore. It reduces the charm of that part of Monaco, and that was sad to see. Hope that explains more for you.. I wish I had time to provide examples of well executed city planning! Anyway, Monaco has so much infrastructure work to do now, which I think takes precedence... Some of the areas around the Oceanographic Museum (like the parking des pecheurs and the little shops along the way to the elevators) are in need of updating and maintenance. That's integral to their image, and it's not a good one. Well, the Oceanographic museum has updated a bit, maybe in the lead up to the wedding and in anticipation of the tourism flow... Well, we were pretty much alone on the rock a few times.. Where was everyone? I did see a few other people in the Museum.. But not many near the palace.. I remember in years past there was more life to the place. Wow, did I ramble! I suppose that I am disappointed overall in Monaco's direction.. It could retain something of charm, but it feels that the changes are wiping it away..
Sorry, I've just reread this... I apologize if it is a bit scattered, I don't have much time or energy to edit it and clarify things.. Hope you can get the idea that I was trying to put across, Lavetta :-)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2012 13:46:32 GMT -5
Thanks.Ladybug, I caught your point and agree Monaco having very little attraction.
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Post by paca on Apr 3, 2012 8:30:24 GMT -5
It seems that this year MC has made an effort to get some excellent orchestras to perform in MC. They should do that more often. They do have the printemps des arts with different themes each year, which is at times quite interesting. If they manage to get more big names orchestra and soloist wise together during a certain period, they might actually have sth that would make MC attractive. If they would manage to get some exciting exhibits to MC as well, they could attract a cultivated and well to do public, and a public that might usually not be attracted to MC. www.monacomatin.mc/arts/logistique-symphonique-au-printemps-des-arts.834449.html
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Post by MyAdia on Apr 3, 2012 8:51:49 GMT -5
It seems that this year MC has made an effort to get some excellent orchestras to perform in MC. They should do that more often. They do have the printemps des arts with different themes each year, which is at times quite interesting. If they manage to get more big names orchestra and soloist wise together during a certain period, they might actually have sth that would make MC attractive. If they would manage to get some exciting exhibits to MC as well, they could attract a cultivated and well to do public, and a public that might usually not be attracted to MC. www.monacomatin.mc/arts/logistique-symphonique-au-printemps-des-arts.834449.htmlThat's great. Perhaps, Caroline and Albert should attend all of these events to show that the family is beyond cultivating the arts in Monaco. But, I hope that they do not ruin the attractiveness by having Charlene show up in some vulgar dress just to do her showing off photo opp.
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Post by paca on Apr 3, 2012 9:08:53 GMT -5
Caro showed on a few occasions the last few years, Albert rarely. Then again their presence would not be really required. The program needs to be good. The kind of public drawn would come for the cultural program, not to gawk at Grimaldis.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2012 7:13:53 GMT -5
I found something funny.
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Post by paca on Apr 6, 2012 12:11:44 GMT -5
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Post by grimnir on Apr 6, 2012 14:38:23 GMT -5
Just so you know: By official ministerial decree, the Monegasque population for 2011 has been increased to 36.371 people. These are not only the Monegasques, but also the ones that have a residental permit. A raise it seems, just how many people can the place hold? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My apologies for the crappy and possibly wrong translation of the info below, but it was kind of hard to translate as things like S.A.M. are typical for the country they belong to and don't necessarily have a literal translation into another language. Google didn't translate it at all, so I did the best I could. Another interesting thingy. Someone (female, since they say fondatrice instead of fondeur) has founded a corporation called MARQUES DE L’ETAT DE MONACO (trademarks of the state of Monaco) or M.E.M. I am not entirely through with reading the status, (go and do it yourself, please, thank you: cloud.gouv.mc/Dataweb/jourmon.nsf/9bf97b0da6308cfdc12568c40037f873/e222ba952cdf8c62c12579d80029550e!OpenDocument) but the rest seems fairly basic. a) the founderess remains anonymous. To me anyway; b) goals of the corporation/company: Brief other legal stuff cloud.gouv.mc/Dataweb/jourmon.nsf/9bf97b0da6308cfdc12568c40037f873/33468fda5cc68f77c12579d800295573!OpenDocument I seem to have missed the original decree from February. Will go and find that one later. Is this odd or what?
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Post by paca on Apr 6, 2012 18:23:10 GMT -5
LOL The state of Monaco is a brand now for the next 99 years, no longer a country. That is beyond ridiculous. I hope the Monegasque are aware now that they are part of a brand now. And they can buy shares too. They probably think it is smart, similar to what Rainier did to get rid of Onassis. Too bad for them that the brand MC has no value. Interesting part is that the society has a liquidation clause. What happens if they go bankrupt, someone buys the right to the name. Can MC no longer be called MC? That'll be fun
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Post by grimnir on Apr 7, 2012 8:26:58 GMT -5
I wonder who the founder is. While yesterday's paper spoke about a fondatrice, the first one from February mentions a fondateur. (Maybe he got a sex change? Oh, I know, it must be cw. ) The weird thing is, I would expect this "owner" of the brand to be either Albert, the state or the gouvernment. And with le prince, l'état and le gouvernement, neither of them is female. This looks to me like a third person, which is odd. Brands of the state of Monaco. Should be owned by the same state maybe? Just an idea. And if this mysterious anonymous hermaphrodite owns the brand, how can Albert call himself prince of Monaco, not having the rights to the name? How can you say you come from Monaco? Better still how can you be a S.A.M. (société anonyme Monégasque)? BTW, it doesn't say anywhere that the MEM actually owns the brand, but with those last two purposes I can see it being a grey area at best. So, from now it's Monaco TM*BTW, does anybody know how and where you could find the name of this founder? Can you even find it? *This Trademark is owned by M.E.M. (marques de l’etat de monaco) and may not be printed, spoken, written, copied, included in any collection or database, be it digital or in any other shapeor form, or be used at all without prior written consent of the owner.
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Post by refia on Apr 7, 2012 9:04:13 GMT -5
Oh, Lord! Many thanks for the infos, I wouldn´t have known that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2012 10:42:08 GMT -5
What about his inherited title, Prince of Monaco or trashys Princess of Monaco?
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Post by paca on Apr 7, 2012 14:29:14 GMT -5
I wonder who the founder is. While yesterday's paper spoke about a fondatrice, the first one from February mentions a fondateur. (Maybe he got a sex change? Oh, I know, it must be cw. ) The weird thing is, I would expect this "owner" of the brand to be either Albert, the state or the gouvernment. And with le prince, l'état and le gouvernement, neither of them is female. This looks to me like a third person, which is odd. Brands of the state of Monaco. Should be owned by the same state maybe? Just an idea. And if this mysterious anonymous hermaphrodite owns the brand, how can Albert call himself prince of Monaco, not having the rights to the name? How can you say you come from Monaco? Better still how can you be a S.A.M. (société anonyme Monégasque)? BTW, it doesn't say anywhere that the MEM actually owns the brand, but with those last two purposes I can see it being a grey area at best. So, from now it's Monaco TM*BTW, does anybody know how and where you could find the name of this founder? Can you even find it? *This Trademark is owned by M.E.M. (marques de l’etat de monaco) and may not be printed, spoken, written, copied, included in any collection or database, be it digital or in any other shapeor form, or be used at all without prior written consent of the owner.It could be a bank or a corporation. It does have the government mentioned in it, but really it is very odd.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2012 10:01:13 GMT -5
I crossed over this.
[a href=" "] [/a] The most expensive Avenue in the world Tuesday, March 13, 2012 Avenue Princesse Grace is the most expensive street in the world to buy property, where 91.740Euro($120,000) will purchase just one square metre of prime real estate, according to a survey by Wealth Bulletin. Prime residential property on the top 10 most expensive streets in the world saw their overall value fall by 12% in the last year, the survey found, with European streets faring better than their US and emerging markets counterparts. That compares with price falls of between 20% to 30% in mainstream property prices in London and New York over the same period. Avenue Princesse Grace might have been the most expensive street on the list, but prices for prime property there have fallen from a staggeringly high 145.000Euro ($190,000) per sq/m a year ago.
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Post by paca on Apr 13, 2012 10:44:25 GMT -5
and what ugly buildings you get to live in for all that money. Judging by the outside of the majority of the buildings located on av Princess Grace You could hardly tell the difference between social housing blocks. If it wasn't to avoid tax or launder money, people would not be living there. For that kind of money you could buy a real nice place in a nice area.
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Post by paca on Apr 18, 2012 6:34:53 GMT -5
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