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Post by taz on May 29, 2011 12:17:02 GMT -5
Margarita posted one part of this article in another thread. Here's the translation of both parts. bilder.bild.de/fotos-skaliert/charlene-biss-21339993-mfbh-18131346/2,w=189.bild.jpg Last meeting on Friday in Monaco, Charlene Wittstock and Malte Biss from BILD on Sunday. Who are you, Charlene? Part 1The future princess of Monaco Who are you, Charlene?Our reporter met Charlene Wittstock when she was still a girl who had a ponytail and was wearing a Polo shirt. Now she will become Princess of Monaco and he knows how much this has changed her. In November 2006 I had of course no idea if this girl would ever become Princess of Monaco. I didn't care at this stage anyway. Well, I knew the name and the face - after all the first pictures were printed months before: During the Winter Olympics in Turin, Albert, probably an eternal bachelor, has been at the rink watching Bobsledding next to him a blond thing, now this isn't meant disrespectfully, sometimes you talk like this in an editorial office. The prince had a red cap on his head, he wore round glasses, he looked like an Olympic-tourist. The girl next to him, the blond ponytail-girl in the fur coat, could have been an Olympic-tourist or an Olympic-hostess as a personal assistant. Albert puts his left hand in her right hand, he presses his lips on the back of her hand. For me, this didn't look like glamor or tenderness. More like a joke and silliness. Back then I was a society-reporter for "Bunte", we had no inkling, and surely no certainty, no special tingle. It was just a Job. Okay, the ponytail-girl's name is Charlene Wittstock, back then 28 years old, lives in South Africa, has German ancestors - this sounded exciting after all, she was supposed to be a swimmer, even a professional swimmer. The new one of the Prince of Monaco. There were already so many "new ones", but people had so often thought that one of them would finally become the next Grace Kelly. But after a short while they were only his "ex". Or a shrug, or both: the ex-girlfriend of Prince Albert, double shrug, next photo. The Olympic pair disappeared from the public eye after the meeting in Turin, she returned to the South African pools, he returned to Monaco's Princely Palace and to the red carpets. Nevertheless, something seemed different this time. Somehow people didn't get this "come-take-my-little-hand"-photo out of their minds, and it was also conspicuous that the widely engaged heir wasn't seen with somebody else, worth talking about, for weeks and months. End of November 2006, I flew to South Africa. To Durban to Charlene Wittstock. No fixed scheduled story, just a kind of insistence, asking. Possible that this is a zero-story, doesn't matter, the flights are not so expensive and for a couple of days the winter in South Africa isn't a bad exchange for Munich's muddy winter. Our contact was Charlene's swimming coach Branny Ivkovic, her "Best Buddy", a real buddy type. Branny coached Charlene, he is still at her side, but back then she still hoped to qualify for the Beijing Olympic games in 2008. Branny wanted to arrange a meeting for me, it was supposed to take place the next day in Richard Bays, an industrial city two hours away from Durban. Charlene was giving swimming lessons there and there she wanted to talk to me. About swimming lessons, not about love rumors. I had good or bad luck, whichever you want: on my first evening in Durban I was sitting in a pub, ordered a beer, suddenly Charlene came in, unmistakably the Ponytail-girl. Sat down two tables away from me and, I think, ordered white wine with a lot of ice. Should I introduce myself and talk to her? I decided against it, I didn't want to jeopardize the scheduled meeting, I just watched her a little. A second beer, then the bill, back to the hotel. The next day the meeting at the pool, Branny kept his word. He introduced us, Charlene was wearing Bermuda shorts and a turquoise polo shirt. She looked at me briefly, "You were already in the pub yesterday, I saw you!" Not a good start and the conversation didn't turn out well. She seemed almost repellent all the time, spoke only about her swimming lessons: "Even today in South Africa more children die by drowning in the sea than in road accidents." Surely true. And Albert? Charlene closed down: "My private life is like a shoe box that I keep to myself. It belongs only to me, for others, it remains closed." I belong to the others, as we parted, she didn't even say "Goodbye!".
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Post by taz on May 29, 2011 12:17:31 GMT -5
Part 2Scroll down and click on "Click here for the second part ..."
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Post by paca on May 29, 2011 13:00:27 GMT -5
she ordered white wine with heaps of ice...culture incarnate...and she was impolite at their first meeting; personal experience has taught me to go by first impression as it is often the most honest. seems that after that she adjusted herself; Interesting that she wants him to look for proof of love in the pics. we have all not seen it, and apparently neither did he without prompting. She really is working the press and knows how to do it and more so which ones. Funny thing about that is that she goes after those who had problems with the Grimaldi and Caro in particular before. So it is all very calculated on her part.
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Post by MyAdia on May 30, 2011 10:07:40 GMT -5
Paca, everything Charlene did was calculated from the very beginning. She is a straight up con artist! She worked the press perfectly and worked the Village Idiot of Monaco even better. She wanted and needed the press to promote her as the next Princess of Monaco. Charlene even gave an interview while at Turin - this piece of trash knew exactly what she was doing. She bragged about it in her Tatler interview - where she is know was her destiny and as her friends stated on her Facebook poage - she played her cards right. More like she played the biggest sucker in Monaco right - Prince Albert II of Monaco.
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Post by donna on Jun 1, 2011 4:22:23 GMT -5
At that time she didn't want to talk about Fatal, because he wasn't a sure catch. He was still (and still is) ****ing other women.
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Post by paca on Jun 1, 2011 4:41:49 GMT -5
She did not only seem repellent at the time, she still is. From all I hear after the wedding things will very soon head towards a divorce. I think that just like Albert felt to have to marry her to save his position, he might have to divorce her for the very same reasons.
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Post by hibou on Jun 1, 2011 7:32:53 GMT -5
She did not only seem repellent at the time, she still is. From all I hear after the wedding things will very soon head towards a divorce. I think that just like Albert felt to have to marry her to save his position, he might have to divorce her for the very same reasons. annulment with a huge "donation" to the Vatican? On the other hand, wouldn't this be the perfect excuse for Albert never to have to marry again because the Vatican won't give him a divorce? From ole Albie's perspective this might be a perfect arrangement. Separated so he can do as he pleases, and she gets to continue to collect income from it. the perfect living hell -- her press vs his press with leaks in tell all fashion. Stay tuned... JMO
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Post by axelle on Jun 1, 2011 8:45:55 GMT -5
Entertaining for us!
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Post by duchess1 on Jun 1, 2011 9:06:33 GMT -5
I can't believe he is going through with this marriage. He will forever be ridiculed. She has zero personality, and he can't put two words together. Both look clumsy together and there is no connection as a real couple. I feel for the people of monaco. It's going to get ugly before it gets better. IMO
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Post by paca on Jun 1, 2011 9:18:01 GMT -5
She did not only seem repellent at the time, she still is. From all I hear after the wedding things will very soon head towards a divorce. I think that just like Albert felt to have to marry her to save his position, he might have to divorce her for the very same reasons. annulment with a huge "donation" to the Vatican? On the other hand, wouldn't this be the perfect excuse for Albert never to have to marry again because the Vatican won't give him a divorce? From ole Albie's perspective this might be a perfect arrangement. Separated so he can do as he pleases, and she gets to continue to collect income from it. the perfect living hell -- her press vs his press with leaks in tell all fashion. Stay tuned... JMO He can still divorce normally and remarry. And as per constitution any heir from that union would be eligible to the throne as well. My guess would be that they divorce within the first few years of their marriage and I have doubts that there will be offspring. At least not naturally conceived. And if they do IVF I would not be surprised if CW is NOT the biological mother. They will use Alberts DNA for legal reasons; then again if they do not use CWs DNA and they test the child, it would not be eligible to the throne It would be a very tricky thing for the legal business.
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Post by suite583 on Jun 1, 2011 10:32:16 GMT -5
Paca, everything Charlene did was calculated from the very beginning. She is a straight up con artist! She worked the press perfectly and worked the Village Idiot of Monaco even better. She wanted and needed the press to promote her as the next Princess of Monaco. Charlene even gave an interview while at Turin - this piece of trash knew exactly what she was doing. She bragged about it in her Tatler interview - where she is know was her destiny and as her friends stated on her Facebook poage - she played her cards right. More like she played the biggest sucker in Monaco right - Prince Albert II of Monaco. Since Turin she might have calculated each of her steps and does not done any other things. May be sitting at the office desk of Fatal during every working day of his.
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Post by emmeline on Jun 1, 2011 13:40:28 GMT -5
I totally agree about IVF and using other woman for conceiving the kid. But i still have my doubts. But again, Albert is so dumb....he will probably see that Charlene isn't popular has he believed, so he will want her to get pregnant, to add some popularity. And here we have the problem: Charlene can't conceive (as we've been told) so she will have to go under ferlity treatments and so...and we have to see if she is going to carry the baby or they will use other woman to do that, and Trashy will have to have a pillow under her clothes to pretend a baby belly...
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Post by cm7007 on Jun 1, 2011 22:28:41 GMT -5
I totally agree about IVF and using other woman for conceiving the kid. But i still have my doubts. But again, Albert is so dumb....he will probably see that Charlene isn't popular has he believed, so he will want her to get pregnant, to add some popularity. And here we have the problem: Charlene can't conceive (as we've been told) so she will have to go under ferlity treatments and so...and we have to see if she is going to carry the baby or they will use other woman to do that, and Trashy will have to have a pillow under her clothes to pretend a baby belly... A pillow!!! ;D That falls out as she is making one of her "entrances". Wouldn't that be rich! ;D
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Post by cm7007 on Jun 1, 2011 22:42:10 GMT -5
She really didn't have a lot of competition. Truly - once women got to know PA and found out what he was really like, and what would be required of them - they bailed. And, quite a lot knew before they even needed to go on one "date" with him - so he didn't have shot at them. Others happily chose careers The only ones who "hung around" were girls like CW. So, big deal - she out smarted a bunch of morons! All he has is money. I guess for some - that's enough - but I truly believe there are more women out there with values, that want to at least "like" the guy they marry more than marry him "just" for his money.
Someone on Eringer said something about DSK, as well as PA11 having been "anally raped" while students at Elysee Albert 1. Paca... do you know or have you heard anything about this? Anyone else in Monaco hear anything? Could this be true? If so - that would explain a whole lot about PA! (and if it's true - I hope the perpetrator is dead and gone and there aren't any others! I'd destroy anyone who did something like that to a son of mine!)
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Post by paca on Jun 2, 2011 6:43:59 GMT -5
No I haven't heard anything about that. I think that the attitude of men in Monaco in general towards women is rather backwards. There is little respect for them. But I have to say considering the kind of women Monaco attracts and that decent women allow to be in Monaco is surely not helping an adolescent to grow into a decent man. There are plenty of DSKs and Alberts in Monaco and not all have been raised here. You can find them in other places too, but no where are men with power and money better protected against the law then in Monaco or other dictatorial states...so obviously that's where they like to play. Why do you think that ALbert took trashy to Egypt? Why do you think almost all French politicians like to spend their winters in warmer Arabic countries? Look at the realities in these countries with regards to sexual behaviour of the upper class and you have your answer. Have to say though that the Kennedys, clintons etc are in no way better when it comes to women. Men with money and power think that they can do what they like and get away with it. And in most cases they do. Has always been that way and it will continue until women realize that they are still a far cry from being considered equal by men and treated accordingly. So in that respect I think Albert is well served with his bimbo and I hope she will strip him of everything he values. The only thing that bothers me is that there are others who are dragged into this, who are decent and honest people. Its for those I care. Albert deserves trashy and everything that will come his way from her and her tribe of leeches.
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Post by hibou on Jun 2, 2011 13:09:19 GMT -5
No I haven't heard anything about that. I think that the attitude of men in Monaco in general towards women is rather backwards. There is little respect for them. But I have to say considering the kind of women Monaco attracts and that decent women allow to be in Monaco is surely not helping an adolescent to grow into a decent man. There are plenty of DSKs and Alberts in Monaco and not all have been raised here. You can find them in other places too, but no where are men with power and money better protected against the law then in Monaco or other dictatorial states...so obviously that's where they like to play. Why do you think that ALbert took trashy to Egypt? Why do you think almost all French politicians like to spend their winters in warmer Arabic countries? Look at the realities in these countries with regards to sexual behaviour of the upper class and you have your answer. Have to say though that the Kennedys, clintons etc are in no way better when it comes to women. Men with money and power think that they can do what they like and get away with it. And in most cases they do. Has always been that way and it will continue until women realize that they are still a far cry from being considered equal by men and treated accordingly. So in that respect I think Albert is well served with his bimbo and I hope she will strip him of everything he values. The only thing that bothers me is that there are others who are dragged into this, who are decent and honest people. Its for those I care. Albert deserves trashy and everything that will come his way from her and her tribe of leeches. I agree paca but in the process it's going to get ugly. Ask for DSK and the accusation of rape, sounds like a defense strategy. I bet the accused is deceased and therefore will not be able to defend his reputation. Pretty disgraceful to use it as an excuse. JMO
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Post by sandsla on Jun 3, 2011 0:38:04 GMT -5
I can't believe he is going through with this marriage. He will forever be ridiculed. She has zero personality, and he can't put two words together. Both look clumsy together and there is no connection as a real couple. I feel for the people of monaco. It's going to get ugly before it gets better. IMO The fall out after he made the decision to actually marry her and make her the princess of Monaco, neither will either of those titles ever mean anything again, and the only women that will ever be interested in him after this, are the same kind of opportunistic skanks, but then I guess that is what Albert likes?
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Post by duchess1 on Jun 3, 2011 2:29:03 GMT -5
I can't believe he is going through with this marriage. He will forever be ridiculed. She has zero personality, and he can't put two words together. Both look clumsy together and there is no connection as a real couple. I feel for the people of monaco. It's going to get ugly before it gets better. IMO The fall out after he made the decision to actually marry her and make her the princess of Monaco, neither will either of those titles ever mean anything again, and the only women that will ever be interested in him after this, are the same kind of opportunistic skanks, but then I guess that is what Albert likes? I agree sandsla, deep down I don't think Monaco will recover from all this tripe. It will just become another long episode of some reality tv show. Also, the media will have a field day once the ring is on her finger. That's when reality sets in for her, and the doors close . she becomes public property and the floodgates will open big time . IMO
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Post by taz on Jun 26, 2011 7:27:55 GMT -5
Bild: How nervous are you, Charlene Wittstock?Sorry, I don't have the time now to translate the whole article maybe later... C talked to Bild a couple of days ago. She claims not to be nervous at all but ready. The Bild reporter doesn't believe her and finds it odd that she doesn't talk about a wedding but an event. The wedding dinner: Fish from Monaco's coast, vegetables from Roc Agel and a pastry made of chard, spinach, leek, marjoram, chervil and ricotta. Dessert: ice cream (decorated with cane sugar --> I have this piece of information from a different article) made of the milk of nine cows which are kept in Roc Agel. I think they try to appear eco friendly by using regional and organic products. But what about the flowers from Ecuador etc.?! Within the next couple of days they'll also publish the wedding bands, dress and cake and then there are absolutely no surprises left. But we don't want to give away too much...
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Post by suite583 on Jun 26, 2011 8:00:32 GMT -5
Bild: How nervous are you, Charlene Wittstock?taz, that was very funny. They are calling it party marathon. Danach startet auch offiziell der Party-Marathon in Monaco: 48 Stunden Ausnahmezustand auf zwei Quadratkilometern Fürstentum.
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