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Post by agentf on Nov 25, 2021 7:06:06 GMT -5
So much is incongruous sometimes. Whether it's giving a top law and order post to a non-democracy or finding out married women in Quebec were considered until the 60s almost like their husband's property in terms of rights, there's so much catching up to do everywhere.
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Post by agentf on Nov 25, 2021 7:15:21 GMT -5
What's with the royal fixation with benches, one could almost say. This one is very pretty, but do they have no notion of other barefoot people among the less fortunate who sleep on benches say in Central Park? Were I superstitious, as a royal, I'd distance myself lest there be some curse about losing everything. I shudder when I see just the Harkles because I think someone among their PR has a sarcastic almost evil eye. Everyone is always drawn to sitting to a beautiful view outside but the symbolism I find, is dangerous. Call me medieval.
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Post by paca on Nov 25, 2021 7:32:13 GMT -5
So much is incongruous sometimes. Whether it's giving a top law and order post to a non-democracy or finding out married women in Quebec were considered until the 60s almost like their husband's property in terms of rights, there's so much catching up to do everywhere. true. In Germany I have just read the headline that the ministry of family etc needs to go to a man, if we want gender equality... It has been during most of our post war years and it didn't do much for women. Merkel used to hold that job, which my mother found outragous, given that she had no children. Interesting side note: in Germany we tend call women who never had a child Mutti or mother of the nation. Mostly the title is bestowed on childless actresses playing mothers. But also Merkel has been called Mutti a lot. Interestingly von der Leyen who has 7 children, never. Then again she spent very little time with them, having them raised for a pittance by nannies and then hired consultancy firms for millions and millions, doing hatchet jobs, just so her children would get jobs with them. Matters for women in Germany weren't any better. Until the 70 women could not open their own bank account without the consent of their husbands. Interestingly, when I wanted to open an account at a bank in MC, I think it was 2005, I needed the signature of my ex to open it. Not helpful when you are planning to get away from a violent husband or boyfriend. Btw there is an article about women and violence in MC matin today.
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Post by paca on Nov 25, 2021 7:33:37 GMT -5
What's with the royal fixation with benches, one could almost say. This one is very pretty, but do they have no notion of other barefoot people among the less fortunate who sleep on benches say in Central Park? Were I superstitious, as a royal, I'd distance myself lest there be some curse about losing everything. I shudder when I see just the Harkles because I think someone among their PR has a sarcastic almost evil eye. Everyone is always drawn to sitting to a beautiful view outside but the symbolism I find, is dangerous. Call me medieval. this bench is btw located near the prison...
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Post by agentf on Nov 25, 2021 7:44:26 GMT -5
All the more reason!! My God the presence of mind sometimes... MIA. What's with the royal fixation with benches, one could almost say. This one is very pretty, but do they have no notion of other barefoot people among the less fortunate who sleep on benches say in Central Park? Were I superstitious, as a royal, I'd distance myself lest there be some curse about losing everything. I shudder when I see just the Harkles because I think someone among their PR has a sarcastic almost evil eye. Everyone is always drawn to sitting to a beautiful view outside but the symbolism I find, is dangerous. Call me medieval. this bench is btw located near the prison...
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Post by paca on Nov 25, 2021 8:30:31 GMT -5
here is the article about violence against women in MC. Now interesting that NONE of the Grimaldis think that is a cause they should get behind. Wonder why. Wasn't Caro a victim of violence by her first husband? and her third is also known for violence. And I think Alberts latest interview with Bern could be seen as psychological violence by some, though I would simply call it disloyal and betrayal. But certainly not one of Alberts finest moments. I wonder how he will defend that when his children are old enough to challenge him. And when it comes to womens right, MC has to hang itäs head in shame. Gabriella is one testamony to that, Caro another. It is shamefull that MC only starts inthe 20s of the 21st century to slowly make some space for women, whilst still cashing in on one particular woman. The woman that shortly before her death publicly stated that she did often ask herself if she had made the right choice becoming princess of MC. And she named all her what ifs. I haven't seen the entire interview, so I don't know if she gave an answer. But coming from a woman whose entire generation lived in the shadows of their husbands, but who showed through her life before marriage, that she was very capable of being successfull in her own right (even though she came from a wealthy family, she financed her education herself and even paid her husband a tremendous dowry). And instead of being allowed to be active, she was reduced to cutting ribbons and pressing flowers. www.monacomatin.mc/vie-associative/violences-faites-aux-femmes-la-principaute-de-monaco-nest-pas-epargnee-729159
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Post by paca on Nov 25, 2021 8:57:13 GMT -5
also an interesting note with regards to nationality. Until now you could apply after 10 years of marriage. From now on you will have to wait 20 years. But when you are rich, you can still buy it. You don't even have to wait that long or actually live there. And obviously it is mainly rich white and old males who can do that. How about a law that there can be only as many men naturalized as women and that their number is limited, no money is allowed to flow, but instead the contribution to the community counts. Because lets face it, women are the ones who mostly volunteer and give fre labour without many services would not function. Yes, there are also men volunteering, but far less. So how about tying what you bring into the community to nationality and make it matter. IMO that is a way better option then tying nationality to marriage. www.monacomatin.mc/faits-de-societe/a-monaco-le-delai-pour-obtenir-la-nationalite-par-mariage-etendu-a-20-ans-729396
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Post by agentf on Nov 25, 2021 16:52:10 GMT -5
I personally wish women had the same solidarity that men have among them, so that if you attacked one woman, the response would be monolithic. There would be less of a struggle educating men on a case by case basis by the victims themselves who have a double burden of suffering and fighting stigma. Instead, if the reprobation were clear, immediate and unified, it would deter violence imo. here is the article about violence against women in MC. Now interesting that NONE of the Grimaldis think that is a cause they should get behind. Wonder why. Wasn't Caro a victim of violence by her first husband? and her third is also known for violence. And I think Alberts latest interview with Bern could be seen as psychological violence by some, though I would simply call it disloyal and betrayal. But certainly not one of Alberts finest moments. I wonder how he will defend that when his children are old enough to challenge him. And when it comes to womens right, MC has to hang itäs head in shame. Gabriella is one testamony to that, Caro another. It is shamefull that MC only starts inthe 20s of the 21st century to slowly make some space for women, whilst still cashing in on one particular woman. The woman that shortly before her death publicly stated that she did often ask herself if she had made the right choice becoming princess of MC. And she named all her what ifs. I haven't seen the entire interview, so I don't know if she gave an answer. But coming from a woman whose entire generation lived in the shadows of their husbands, but who showed through her life before marriage, that she was very capable of being successfull in her own right (even though she came from a wealthy family, she financed her education herself and even paid her husband a tremendous dowry). And instead of being allowed to be active, she was reduced to cutting ribbons and pressing flowers. www.monacomatin.mc/vie-associative/violences-faites-aux-femmes-la-principaute-de-monaco-nest-pas-epargnee-729159
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Post by paca on Nov 25, 2021 17:43:58 GMT -5
men who are violent towards women should be immerdiate social paryahs. There is no excuse for it at all. Penalties should be severe. The same goes for violence of any kind against children. I remember one incident in Monaco, when we were at the circus at the port event. There were also classmates of my kids and their parents. one of them and siblings lost track of their father and he of them. As I knew the kids and they me, I asked them to stay by my side and I would approach the police. (the father btw lost track of the kids, because he was chatting up a woman that was not his wife) Anyways, while I was passing the kids to the police and relating what I knew, the father noticed us and immediately started to shout at the children and basically making it out to be their fault (which it wasn't and he knew it and it was his bad conscience talking, paired with trying to play up for the police; needless to add that he was wanting in size). Anyways, the policeman cut him off immediately, telling him that this was no way to talk to his children and it was his duty to look after them and not the reverse. The father was so stunned, for a brief moment he resembled a goldfish. He then tried to explain himself,but was dismissed. He was made to calm down and eventually sent of with the kids. The police was very nice to the kids and stern with the father,but always calm and serene. I really admired the way they handled the father at the time. Being told off by the police really took the wind out of him and he didn't expect it. And it helped. I never saw him be like that to the kids again. Obviously I could only judge his public behaviour, so who knows what went on there. But he remained a filou otherwise. Just to his kids he was better.
having said that, I am sure it would help, if other men stepped up, when they witness maltreatment of women in words or action.
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Post by paca on Nov 26, 2021 11:27:36 GMT -5
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Post by paca on Nov 26, 2021 15:13:18 GMT -5
btw. just read an article today about a husband killing his wife in her sleep in germany. They were married for about 60 years. And he smothered her with a pillow, because he thought she was having it off with a neighbor 30 years younger and he couldn't cope with his prostate surgery. No proof that she did cheat (as if that mattered, she did not deserve to die, if she had affairs with 10 different men; that is what divorce is for). He got off with 3 years. I don't care that he will probably die in prison, but he should have gotten life sentence like every other murderer. And of course the judge was a man. As I believe everyone else. What verdict would he have gotten if he was 30 years younger? Or if she would have been a young woman? Makes me angry at all men for allowing this.
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Post by agentf on Nov 26, 2021 16:59:36 GMT -5
Let's not psyche the universe too much with talk of violence in volatile times, but let's do talk of ways women can move beyond - the live ones, ofc. Here's an anecdote to break from that: I arrived at my parents Florida condo between school terms last time, only for my dad to take me aside on our bike ride to inform me he was divorcing my mom without a heads-up and giving her nothing. I nearly fell off my bike. What would prompt my dad like that? It was unheard of in their 30-some year marriage (at the time)(spoiler alert: they never divorced). I asked him to tell me calmly what was wrong. I obviously had arrived at the right time, compelled as I had felt despite not being overly tempted by a segregated community of white over 55s... He told me she was having an affair with a resident. I tried not to scoff. He was serious and upset, after all. I was sworn to secrecy. 🙄 So I would let him vent, observed the dynamic between my mom and this man at the pool - who was quite dashing and my mom who was perfectly fluent in English, I could see where my less proficient but equally handsome father felt insecure. And I was glad in a way. But it took a month until I could tell my father that if he didn't trust my mom by then, it was he who was in the wrong. End of story. Never heard a whisper about divorce after that. Mission accomplished. He had only needed someone "on his side". Moral of the story: talk to someone. The man who smothered his wife after 60 years of marriage was literally a demented old man in his 80s. Of course she didn't cheat - who could move that fast at 80? His sentence should have been to be incarcerated at a mental hospital. btw. just read an article today about a husband killing his wife in her sleep in germany. They were married for about 60 years. And he smothered her with a pillow, because he thought she was having it off with a neighbor 30 years younger and he couldn't cope with his prostate surgery. No proof that she did cheat (as if that mattered, she did not deserve to die, if she had affairs with 10 different men; that is what divorce is for). He got off with 3 years. I don't care that he will probably die in prison, but he should have gotten life sentence like every other murderer. And of course the judge was a man. As I believe everyone else. What verdict would he have gotten if he was 30 years younger? Or if she would have been a young woman? Makes me angry at all men for allowing this.
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Post by donna on Nov 27, 2021 13:05:29 GMT -5
What's with the royal fixation with benches, one could almost say. This one is very pretty, but do they have no notion of other barefoot people among the less fortunate who sleep on benches say in Central Park? Were I superstitious, as a royal, I'd distance myself lest there be some curse about losing everything. I shudder when I see just the Harkles because I think someone among their PR has a sarcastic almost evil eye. Everyone is always drawn to sitting to a beautiful view outside but the symbolism I find, is dangerous. Call me medieval. I think it is fabulous. I would definitely sit on it and try on the footprints Benches are a stable in every park. I like them, especially beautiful design like this one
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Post by donna on Nov 27, 2021 13:09:58 GMT -5
What a beautiful way to raise awareness
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Post by agentf on Nov 27, 2021 18:21:23 GMT -5
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Post by axelle on Nov 27, 2021 18:33:19 GMT -5
This is messy - Andrew had his hands in all kinds of pies.
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Post by agentf on Nov 27, 2021 19:09:11 GMT -5
He's no mastermind though. You have people that have made it a sport of trophy hunting royals to try to prove their own superiority. Look at the conveners, the Maxwells, the Epsteins. Andrew certainly didn't invent the wheel. The problem is there are more white-collar crooks than smart uncorrupted cops with laws to help them catch these guys. I'm having to try to rope a few unfinished cases into one in the hope I have one good judge who will finally relieve me of this burden. 🙏🏼 And even that's not a given. This is messy - Andrew had his hands in all kinds of pies.
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Post by paca on Nov 27, 2021 19:51:01 GMT -5
lol, you know me so well. So much for Albert cleaning up MCs image. Btw the ex pat brits in MC are so full of themselves. Most of them barely speak french even after 20 plus years and are crooks. Or former hookers. Oh, btw while I was pregnant and lived in MC, someone tried to get into our building (small 3 story one across the road from Millefiori) with a knife. Luckily police arrested him before he got in. Living a decade in Beausoleil, no one ever tried that and our building door was never closed. My ex is British and I consider him a crook too. Tax evader and avoids to pay the full amount of social security in MC. Hopefully the IRs will get to him and his fellow crooks.
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Post by paca on Nov 27, 2021 19:51:45 GMT -5
This is messy - Andrew had his hands in all kinds of pies. yeah, and it shows.
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Post by paca on Nov 27, 2021 19:59:35 GMT -5
He's no mastermind though. You have people that have made it a sport of trophy hunting royals to try to prove their own superiority. Look at the conveners, the Maxwells, the Epsteins. Andrew certainly didn't invent the wheel. The problem is there are more white-collar crooks than smart uncorrupted cops with laws to help them catch these guys. I'm having to try to rope a few unfinished cases into one in the hope I have one good judge who will finally relieve me of this burden. 🙏🏼 And even that's not a given. This is messy - Andrew had his hands in all kinds of pies. don't forget the greens. First they bought his title, now his wife is running CWs foundation. Obviously they had to pay a few millions pre corona because he was most of the week in London, which means he can't have been in MC, so would have had to pay taxes in the UK. My friends father was actually refused the tax free paper, because his wife was living in Germany. He was actually spending the required time in MC. (he was German, so a stickler for rules). So his wife had to relocate too. She wasn't happy about it since they had a big house in Bavaria and only a small flat in MC. She wasn't bound to stick around as much, as she was not paying taxes as a housewife. I guess no one told them about the possibility of donations. Then again they were rich, but not super rich.
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