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Post by agentf on Jun 25, 2021 22:44:05 GMT -5
It sounds plastic surgery-related. I've watched Botched, the show with the pair of surgeons from Beverly Hills that fix people up brilliantly, and they have had cases where too many surgeries or a person's skin could lead to skin outright dying off in some cases. An infection is definitely not unheard of.
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Post by paca on Jun 26, 2021 3:53:11 GMT -5
yeah, if you do too much surgery, eventually you will end up like wildenstein or have your nose fall off like Michael Jackson. The problem is that once they start they get addicted. Look at Katie Price who constantly gets things done. The Kardashians will be a horrorshow once they age, given how young they started... Can't wait to see her botched face. I wonder what she will do, if it can't be properly fixed? Hide forever? Doesn't seem that Albert is that much of a support, given she is alone in SA.
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Post by agentf on Jun 26, 2021 6:56:19 GMT -5
Worse, necrosis. The skin dies and turns black. In the case of collapse, someone like Dr Nasser/ef? - who has worked on the Kardashians I believe, has to harvest cartilage from ribs or skin grafts for dead patches, and it all turns Frankensteinish somewhat but he has pulled off great feats. He and his friend on the show. I hope she has good surgeons. I don't wish disfigurement on anyone. Infections are a high incidence, add to that Covid? ENT implies sinuses. Black fungus is something awful that's reared up as well. I would think home in Monaco would be very safe. And Mediterranean salty air too. Mind you, you can't fly with an ear or gum infection, your head feels like it will split. I flew with Meunière syndrome. Oh the hell. Anecdotal: I had a drunk passenger next to me who kept talking. I told her I would throw up on her if she weren't quiet. My head was splitting. Fortunately, it was an hour flight. She went silent. yeah, if you do too much surgery, eventually you will end up like wildenstein or have your nose fall off like Michael Jackson. The problem is that once they start they get addicted. Look at Katie Price who constantly gets things done. The Kardashians will be a horrorshow once they age, given how young they started... Can't wait to see her botched face. I wonder what she will do, if it can't be properly fixed? Hide forever? Doesn't seem that Albert is that much of a support, given she is alone in SA.
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Post by paca on Jun 26, 2021 8:26:01 GMT -5
Yikes that sounds horrible. What bothers me is that she never seemed to be happy with her face or boobs.I think she has a smaller bust since she used to. In recent pics she looked despite her size a lot less massive. Even her shoulders. She seems to have lost a lot of weight too. If she had just her nose and teeth fixed, she might have been happier with her face. Or maybe just left it as it was. Still I think if she was really ill and had to receive treatment on her own, that would be worse. Anyways, these 2 really need to sort themselves out, especially for the kids sake.
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Post by axelle on Jun 26, 2021 9:54:40 GMT -5
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Post by agentf on Jun 26, 2021 11:20:29 GMT -5
Remember, they caught Covid from Albert so her immune system is not great. She could have caught anything after that. If her body mass dropped, it can be that her appetite is affected by nausea, common to ear problems that cause vertigo. She has to build up immunity, but axelle's link mentions complications from a previous surgery. (Otherwise, Fox or People are hardly reliable media...) Who knows. Yikes that sounds horrible. What bothers me is that she never seemed to be happy with her face or boobs.I think she has a smaller bust since she used to. In recent pics she looked despite her size a lot less massive. Even her shoulders. She seems to have lost a lot of weight too. If she had just her nose and teeth fixed, she might have been happier with her face. Or maybe just left it as it was. Still I think if she was really ill and had to receive treatment on her own, that would be worse. Anyways, these 2 really need to sort themselves out, especially for the kids sake.
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Post by paca on Jun 26, 2021 12:00:02 GMT -5
I read about the previous surgery gone wrong elsewhere too, so that might go back to an official statement. We have seen before that she had her face redone before big events in mc. Maybe that was her real reason behind her SA visit. Maybe whatever she wanted done went wrong and now they are trying to fix it. What bothers me is the indefinetely. And several procedures. Where is she staying? In hospital, hotel, family or does she have her own place? And if you can't travel by plane. she has spent a lot of time on yachts, can't any of her oligarch friends pick her up by boat? She'd be back home in no time...
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Post by axelle on Jun 26, 2021 13:26:05 GMT -5
Paca - good point sail home! I think this is a bit suspect and could be something else, too but it is true any issue near or related to her inner ear she should not be flying or swimming. On the other hand, if you are having anything serious done I would want to go to my home doctors. This part seems weird unless there is something else behind it. We don't know where she had the plastic surgery do we or was it LA? Seems she has had so much done could be many places too.
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Post by paca on Jun 26, 2021 14:23:46 GMT -5
I think she had all her major medicals done in SA. IVF and surgeries. I think in her mind she is home. Plus the doctors speak her language. Also in MC everything would be leaked eventually. Still I would want my kids near and if possible my husband. Given that hers is a frequent flyer, I'd expect him to fly as often as possible. The kids are on holiday now, so no reason to not spend the next 2 month with her in SA. My kids used to fly on their own at that age. They have staff and a private plane... so no reason for the kids to be away from her. And Albert could fly in for the anniversary weekend too. If you want to, with their money, they could make it happen. If you have the means to do sth and don't, then you are lacking the will and then you have to ask why is that so.
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Post by agentf on Jun 27, 2021 4:23:02 GMT -5
You're right. She never quite moved to Monaco that way. I think the fact the kids are with Albert reminds me a bit of when Grace wanted to separate but had to come back because the kids belonged to Monaco monarchy. If it wasn't just a rumour. So that would indicate something afoot. Plus, as you and Axelle mention, if there's a will there's definitely a way. CC did say she found parenting hard. Maybe an underlying premature mid-life crisis? Or if some form of cancer is involved, peri-menopause maybe, which makes moods and kids a dangerous mix. That video could be a tally of what she considers her wifely duties over the last ten years, if negotiations of any kind are underway. It's a 2 in 1 burn. It's all strange anyway. I think she had all her major medicals done in SA. IVF and surgeries. I think in her mind she is home. Plus the doctors speak her language. Also in MC everything would be leaked eventually. Still I would want my kids near and if possible my husband. Given that hers is a frequent flyer, I'd expect him to fly as often as possible. The kids are on holiday now, so no reason to not spend the next 2 month with her in SA. My kids used to fly on their own at that age. They have staff and a private plane... so no reason for the kids to be away from her. And Albert could fly in for the anniversary weekend too. If you want to, with their money, they could make it happen. If you have the means to do sth and don't, then you are lacking the will and then you have to ask why is that so.
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Post by paca on Jun 27, 2021 15:23:20 GMT -5
Lol hasn't she been living in crisis since they started dating? It is not as if it wasn't there for her to see. I still think that the contract story that was around briefly after his ascension is true and she was the only willing candidate. He might actually like her to a degree, but I think he has always made it clear that he only wanted an heir. Personally I don't see why he couldn't have done it like his great grandfather, but then again people in Monaco at the time had just come out of the 50s... Also I don't get why he would think that it would be better for MC to be ruled by a child rather than handing things to Caros kids. Had MC managed to move into modern times, it would have gone via Caro to them anyways. So had he not married, as seems to be more his lifestyle, he might have corrected a historic wrong. I would have respected him more for it. Preparing Andrea with Caro might have actually resulted in a decent, more modern ruling. Jaques is likely to become somebodys puppet. Just like his incompetent father.
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Post by agentf on Jun 29, 2021 5:15:34 GMT -5
Let's not labour under the assumption anyone in Albert's position would just say: "Hey, here's what's mine. Enjoy". Also, he probably doesn't see himself leaving his post for the next decade or two. Of course, the Casiraghi men should be groomed by him for any eventuality. As for Caro, the Brits only just barely have arrived to recognizing women in the chain of succession. Where else? Sweden? It's still not universal. Placing Monaco at the forefront of that would imply a progressive streak. Where Jacques is concerned, it's his mother's lack of any structure that will be the challenge when leading one day, where he can be easily manipulated. Lol hasn't she been living in crisis since they started dating? It is not as if it wasn't there for her to see. I still think that the contract story that was around briefly after his ascension is true and she was the only willing candidate. He might actually like her to a degree, but I think he has always made it clear that he only wanted an heir. Personally I don't see why he couldn't have done it like his great grandfather, but then again people in Monaco at the time had just come out of the 50s... Also I don't get why he would think that it would be better for MC to be ruled by a child rather than handing things to Caros kids. Had MC managed to move into modern times, it would have gone via Caro to them anyways. So had he not married, as seems to be more his lifestyle, he might have corrected a historic wrong. I would have respected him more for it. Preparing Andrea with Caro might have actually resulted in a decent, more modern ruling. Jaques is likely to become somebodys puppet. Just like his incompetent father.
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Post by paca on Jun 30, 2021 9:45:49 GMT -5
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Post by axelle on Jun 30, 2021 18:30:54 GMT -5
I agree!
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Post by paca on Jul 1, 2021 10:50:47 GMT -5
I read somewhere that she wants Albert to buy a farm in SA and that she always does this sort of thing, when she wants sth from him. possible, but very immature. Blackmail is not a healthy basis for a relationship and sets a bad example for the children. Besides she could have put it in her contract from the get go. Maxima has property in Argentina since the beginning to allow for discrete visits with family and friends. Not sure about Mary, but I bet they have a place in Australia too. Anyways, if she is househunting, they should get it over with. both of them.
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Post by paca on Jul 1, 2021 10:57:48 GMT -5
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Post by agentf on Jul 2, 2021 4:50:18 GMT -5
Right there thanking someone has an air of finiteness. It doesn't help dispel the grumblings. Being sick and hospitalized, I would have let my doctors speak for me. Save myself the trouble. I would have sent my husband something on the anniversary, that he would have posted to Instagram maybe. And I, whatever he would have sent me. Just a thought.
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Post by paca on Jul 2, 2021 7:28:58 GMT -5
She posted about a rhino and her baby on the anniversary. No mention of Albert. Or Monaco. She has a duty there too.
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Post by agentf on Jul 2, 2021 13:36:39 GMT -5
Has she EVER thought of Monaco...? There are 365 days in a year to remember the plight of rhinos, and especially at the death of the last white male one, but sure enough - it has to be the anniversary. A more contrarian figure I've never observed. Actually I stopped, to be factually correct. She posted about a rhino and her baby on the anniversary. No mention of Albert. Or Monaco. She has a duty there too.
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Post by axelle on Jul 3, 2021 8:45:42 GMT -5
Really seems like it is fizzling out. Interested to see what happens next.
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