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Post by paca on Sept 8, 2021 6:50:46 GMT -5
not really news. Anyone could have been posting it on her behalf. We ve seen the pic. The trashstocks are just hoping to get more money due to media coverage for their next vacation. I wouldn't give them a dime for their fake foundation. Without any published numbers about the spending of their foundation and documentation of how Chantell is fleecing the foundation via her company and possibly trumped up invoices. I wonder why the media doesn't get into the dodgy businesses of that family. There is the real story and the real scandal. And THAT would really end the marriage if it were to be made public. So far the Monegasques know about Gareth failed business attempts, but if they were to lay open their income and it would be public knowledge that they funneled funds from the foundation into their own pocket, no way could Albert stay married to her or have her family anywhere near. They loathe her as is, but what these people are doing puts MC in a very bad light and might destroy all charity in MC. Especially if they get off scott free. And that the work her company does is a scam, is easy to see through. Because if competitors could have provided cheaper service, than they need to answer why her company was hired. Also there needs to be proof that events actually took place, which they probably didn't. Obviously Charlene can claim that she trusted them and had no knowledge, but it will be lame as any reasonable person knows, that with their income and education, they can't have that lifestyle. Even if Charlene does foot some of their bills. And btw if she does, they need to tell the taxman about it. Because large gifts have to be declared and if they don't do that, they can be prosecuted. So in any case, if the media is looking for scandal that is where I would start. Just going through their social media paints a picture that says a lot about who these people are. The media like to pit the Grimaldi sisters against each other, but although they are different and their is an age gap and intellectual gap, they do have more in common than meets the eye and the current mess is nothing to do with them. I think they both are very comfortable with their lives and their respective families and their charity work.
As I said, if looking for scandal, I would do a deep dive on the Wittstocks, look at their income, friends, business ventures and especially at the SA branch of the foundation. The main foundation is run by the palace. So, difficult to get data, but also difficult for the Wittstocks to do things. Especially finances are controlled by palace staff, so probaby not their go to. Besides Gareth gets a free appartment in MC and he had first dibs at a primespot for his restaurant as well as the link to the Pastors as co investors. More than most people get in MC. Not sure what they are living off now. Maybe unemployment benefits?
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Post by agentf on Sept 8, 2021 7:01:19 GMT -5
Another round of will she-won't she...🙄 My foundation would be a Canadian branch of Friends, the animal rescue ranch. I would work with wonderful people like Compassion Without Borders, to name one, as a no-kill facility. These people do miracles on meager donations and are true angels.
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Post by margarita on Sept 9, 2021 7:17:12 GMT -5
Paca wrote: "As I said, if looking for scandal, I would do a deep dive on the Wittstocks, look at their income, friends, business ventures and especially at the SA branch of the foundation."
Guess you have the right instinct. And you know what: I had this feeling from the very start - there is something about her family and their S.A. connections. Call me a conspirancist but there is something about Charlenes S.A. ties that really concerns me. Why did she stay in the country during all the riots in summer? She should have left on a rubber boat for security reasons. But the opposite was the case. And where is she living? In which region?? What does that imply?
Who of her S.A. friends extended his/ her business to MC in the past years? Opened a company in MC; moved his/ her company to MC? Got a bank account ect.? If there are some criminal connections and it becomes public then the 2011-new-flagship-Charlene ruins Monaco's image completely.
The Palace should urgently do some investigation in that field and if/ when they find out something then cut it off asap - before it becomes public.
On the whole world spouses of officials in important positions and/ or with access to highly confidential informations are vetted by the intelligence service of that country. Including their financial situation and including their friends and families and their past! (Not secretly but with the knowledge of that person. That means real striptease and living in a aquarium!) To make sure that no person with a foreign / criminal agenda get's close to key persons and will abuse his/ her position and/ or the official.
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Post by paca on Sept 9, 2021 7:57:08 GMT -5
She was staying in Kwazulu natal in a lodge. It has been posted previously. I think that she might have moved location though. Probably some rental villa. IMO the latest post from Chantell are made there. As to vetting. Well, we know from Eringer and previous incidents that MC is no good in vetting. And IMO Albert didn't have a lot of choice with regards to a wife. Had he married a strong woman with an education, he would have looked bad and his ego has problems with it. Only someone like Charlene was acceptable to him. Willing to take all his crap and not outshining him at the job. A real partner would not have worked for him. Also not someone who would have stood up to him. Albert is running MC by the past. The only intellectual in the family (was btw a bad prince) and his dead mother. He is flogging dead horses instead of preparing MC for the future and building his own legacy.
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Post by paca on Sept 9, 2021 11:34:42 GMT -5
Here is a bit that describes the process of implants and how long it will take, depending on conditions. Minimum is half a year, but it can take up to a year. I think Charlene has one of those difficult conditions with her sinuslift, which is done to rebuilt the bone structures. Without this procedure, she couldn't have an implant. So basically she was in the early stages of getting an implant. Given her difficulties, she still has a long way to go. They can not procede without everything healed. Apparently that can take a rather long time. I should think though that during that time she can travel. But given that nothing has been revealed about her latest operations, we can't say how long it takes. But honestly, I think she would have been way better off getting back to MC and beeing near a doctor, rather than being in the bush. Her friends and family could have all come to MC for support and her kids would have been there. Plus on good days she could have done some work. Anyways as of now I think she will need another year until she can actually finish that implant treatment. meinzahn.at/implantate-kann-das-nicht-alles-ein-bisschen-schneller-gehen/
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Post by agentf on Sept 9, 2021 14:35:06 GMT -5
Well I took down my flying knickers 😄 I have been slighted and I'm busy emotionally torturing myself elsewhere, sorry. The fortune teller I saw as my birthday gift to myself is full of good things to come. (And sees a huge settlement for being professionally wronged, as a fall guy does what fall guys do. In fact, the first word of her reading was "money".) When we switched to home life, she was quite descriptive and the picture she conjured is quite nice. Mum's the word 🤫 She was staying in Kwazulu natal in a lodge. It has been posted previously. I think that she might have moved location though. Probably some rental villa. IMO the latest post from Chantell are made there. As to vetting. Well, we know from Eringer and previous incidents that MC is no good in vetting. And IMO Albert didn't have a lot of choice with regards to a wife. Had he married a strong woman with an education, he would have looked bad and his ego has problems with it. Only someone like Charlene was acceptable to him. Willing to take all his crap and not outshining him at the job. A real partner would not have worked for him. Also not someone who would have stood up to him. Albert is running MC by the past. The only intellectual in the family (was btw a bad prince) and his dead mother. He is flogging dead horses instead of preparing MC for the future and building his own legacy.
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Post by agentf on Sept 9, 2021 14:36:25 GMT -5
Can't her infection be a result of Covid, which she got from Albert no? Here is a bit that describes the process of implants and how long it will take, depending on conditions. Minimum is half a year, but it can take up to a year. I think Charlene has one of those difficult conditions with her sinuslift, which is done to rebuilt the bone structures. Without this procedure, she couldn't have an implant. So basically she was in the early stages of getting an implant. Given her difficulties, she still has a long way to go. They can not procede without everything healed. Apparently that can take a rather long time. I should think though that during that time she can travel. But given that nothing has been revealed about her latest operations, we can't say how long it takes. But honestly, I think she would have been way better off getting back to MC and beeing near a doctor, rather than being in the bush. Her friends and family could have all come to MC for support and her kids would have been there. Plus on good days she could have done some work. Anyways as of now I think she will need another year until she can actually finish that implant treatment. meinzahn.at/implantate-kann-das-nicht-alles-ein-bisschen-schneller-gehen/
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Post by margarita on Sept 9, 2021 16:07:18 GMT -5
Agentf - ("Can't her infection be a result of Covid, which she got from Albert no?"). We know about Covid far too little so it is not excluded but I don't think so. But knowing that she is about to get an implant and had a sinus lift - why did she fly??? www.swiss-biohealth.com/behandlungen/knochenaufbau-sinuslift/They clearly say that 3 weeks after a sinus lift it is possible to fly - but didn't she fly earlier? I can't remember where I read it but it seems to me she didn't wait so long. If flying is avoidable after medical procedures - why do it? She was not so close to that Zulu king. Wasn't she? Plus: there are special ear plugs for such cases: www.sanohra.com/en/products/sanohra-fly/They really help a lot. I've tried.
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Post by paca on Sept 9, 2021 16:14:58 GMT -5
Can't her infection be a result of Covid, which she got from Albert no? Here is a bit that describes the process of implants and how long it will take, depending on conditions. Minimum is half a year, but it can take up to a year. I think Charlene has one of those difficult conditions with her sinuslift, which is done to rebuilt the bone structures. Without this procedure, she couldn't have an implant. So basically she was in the early stages of getting an implant. Given her difficulties, she still has a long way to go. They can not procede without everything healed. Apparently that can take a rather long time. I should think though that during that time she can travel. But given that nothing has been revealed about her latest operations, we can't say how long it takes. But honestly, I think she would have been way better off getting back to MC and beeing near a doctor, rather than being in the bush. Her friends and family could have all come to MC for support and her kids would have been there. Plus on good days she could have done some work. Anyways as of now I think she will need another year until she can actually finish that implant treatment. meinzahn.at/implantate-kann-das-nicht-alles-ein-bisschen-schneller-gehen/It wasn't reported that she had it so I would say no. If she had a common cold, that could easily have done the damage, especially if you are prone to that type of condition, which swimmers are. And if she was in the healing process it is very easy to get infections. Maybe she should have waited until after the flu season. Anyways, she had so many surgeries and with her swimming and the nose and ear problems related to that, she is probably used to pain and didn't go see her doctor when she should have. Also I remember that in her past she did cancel a state visit due to an Angina, so she seems prone to that kind of thing.
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Post by paca on Sept 9, 2021 16:25:26 GMT -5
Agentf - ("Can't her infection be a result of Covid, which she got from Albert no?"). We know about Covid far too little so it is not excluded but I don't think so. But knowing that she is about to get an implant and had a sinus lift - why did she fly??? www.swiss-biohealth.com/behandlungen/knochenaufbau-sinuslift/They clearly say that 3 weeks after a sinus lift it is possible to fly - but didn't she fly earlier? I can't remember where I read it but it seems to me she didn't wait so long. If flying is avoidable after medical procedures - why do it? She was not so close to that Zulu king. Wasn't she? Plus: there are special ear plugs for such cases: www.sanohra.com/en/products/sanohra-fly/They really help a lot. I've tried. I don't think she was prohibited from flying due to the sinus lift, she simply had the infection which prevents her from flying. Whether she caught that in SA or came to SA with it, I don't recall. But in any case she would have needed a few months to heal before getting the implant. My guess is they are still trying to fix her first problem. Under different circumstances she could get her crown by now. By the looks of thing she will have to wait until next summer. Or she might not get one at all and a bridge instead. With someone who had so much difficulties, most doctors would be careful to go ahead. Btw. Monaco could really do with a proper tooth clinic. They would have the clients with the pockets for it. I would recommend them to get in touch with the largest one in Berlin, but I am sure that there are others that could build one up in MC as well.
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Post by agentf on Sept 9, 2021 17:26:49 GMT -5
Medical tourism is a huge thing, and Monaco could attract both the talent and the clientèle. I've already ID'd my future surgeon who I listened speak about results as close to nature. He's in Paris and Dubai. Everything compostable, for me. Mostly fat transfer and repairing childhood damages to my nose but no reduction. It's very hard finding someone who will optimize you rather than mass produce one type of look. Having said that, it's ok for others. Tori Spelling just got her botched nose corrected among other things and she looks better than she ever did. Bravo to her. But excessive stuff will Michael Jackson you 😳 Here's my future surgeon: www.instagram.com/tv/CNwxIDqj7Ti/?utm_medium=copy_link
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Post by paca on Sept 9, 2021 17:54:57 GMT -5
Well, medical tourism already exists, though usually because people want to get it cheaper rather than better. So they go to Turkey, Hungary or Poland. Or they go to dentists that have the crown made in China. Me, I think that health is a longterm investment. You don't want to go cheap, you want to go best. You want to feel safe and you want to trust. To me, when I chose a dentist, it is important that he wants to preserve as long and as much as possible your natural teeth. And when he does invasive work, he uses the best methods. And if he gets the crowns done in house and everyone is quickly available to do corrections, then even better. Implants can last a lifetime, so get them done properly. If you go cheap, the damage can be lifelong as well. Trust doesn't happen overnight. Also I value that my doctor explains everything to me, answers all my questions and worries and offers different options. So I can be happy with the results and feel safe during the procedure. I am sure that those doctors in Poland etc. speak excellent English, but I don't think that I would be worsed enough to get all the problems that can occur.
Anyways in MC a specialist clinic with doctors from varies countries and languages could be very profitable. And the gouvernment could engage in funding research for new techniques. They could also link charities and provide dental care for less advantaged or children that suffered facial and dental damages due to wars. The heart and lung clinic does those operations, so you could do that kind of thing for teeth and facial injuries as well. Also they do have medical conventions there, so to venture into that kind of thing would be another thing that MC could build a future on. They could also take a look at geriatric medicine. It would also make MC more attractive to residents to actually live there. Chuck out the likes of Philip Green. MC doesn't need them. Clear out all that tax evading clientele and make MC into a place of science, health, get rid of that traffic and do all those things I have mentioned before. They would have plenty of income and the image would change too.
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Post by margarita on Sept 10, 2021 7:57:31 GMT -5
www.google.com/amp/s/www.gala.de/amp/royals/monaco/fuerstin-charl%25C3%25A8ne--freundin-verraet--so-tickt-sie-wirklich-22505774.html1) Different lifes start with different PR-teams. A "female friend" of Charlene tells the press that she seems fragile but is so much stronger... 2) "Charlene does not want to be Grace but also not Kate. That's why she does not always meet the expectations of others towards a person in her position. She just follows her passions. Like eaching children to swim and saving rhinos." ... they mix strong with egoistic. And yes she is living her passions regardless on her children, Albert and his family, the monegasques and MC. That is immature - not passionate.
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Post by margarita on Sept 10, 2021 8:13:01 GMT -5
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Post by margarita on Sept 10, 2021 8:41:53 GMT -5
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Post by paca on Sept 10, 2021 11:24:34 GMT -5
oh, I so hate when DM beefs up a 3 sentence item, by rehashing and copypasting old articles and then the German media reprints the same stuff. Everyone knows who those unnamed friends are. It is Chantell doing her sister a disfavour and trying to save the family income. With such a parasitic family, she doesnt need enemies. Someone needs to shut that woman up. Throwing tantrums like her daughter is not being a rebel, but being immature. She doesn't do the job differently, she doesn't do the job. Consistently not appearing to appointments is not only unprofessional it is shows lack of respect and discipline. Without the doping she wouldn't have gotten that far. My guess is she wasn't discipled enough as an athlete either. And her surgeries are her current doping. Without having had an accident to be needing an implant that early in life, speaks btw of poor dental hygene. I wonder if she is still smoking, because that surely is detrimental as well. In any case her doping didn't work to get the medal and now she is starting to pay the price for all her attempts to look better than her natural self. She will have to live with that mucked up face for the next few decades and my guess is that given that she is having health issues because of it so early in life, things will only gget worse. Cinderellas stepsister had it easy in comparisson...
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Post by paca on Sept 10, 2021 12:16:59 GMT -5
well, looks to me as if her dentist f***ed up. I googled the complication that can occur. If he hurt a specific membrane the material to reconstruct the bone will get into unwanted places and cause infections. To remove those bits is difficult,but is necessary. So basically the surgeons are now trying to undo the damage that was most likely done by her dentist in MC. So until that procedure is finished and healed, she can't get her implant. I wonder if that sinuslift has to be repeated once she has healed up. She could opt for mini implants though. Not as good, but she wouln't have to do another bone graft. I would also look for a new dentist. www.dentnet.de/ratgeber/der-sinuslift-knochenaufbau
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Post by paca on Sept 10, 2021 14:18:26 GMT -5
Her lot seems to be runningquite the Pr campaign with people maazine.... Here is the article with Albert that keeps being quoted people.com/royals/prince-albert-appalled-at-princess-charlene-rumors/here is Chantelle speaking under the guise of a friend, also addressing their parenting ( we were I believe the only ones criticising their parenting, so it is amusing that she feels the need to address that; also funny how she uses words that are beyond her understanding; she reminds me of those Shakespearean characters who are pretending to be smart by using words that they think sound smart, but use them wrongly. So those in the lower ranks admire them, those in power and upper class positions are bewildered and look down on them. The audience sees them as ridiculous and sometimes tragic figures. Hmmmmm, looks to me that the trashlenes have a sorespot. You know Chantell what helps? actually putting the work in and getting the education. Then you don't have to worry about people calling you dumb) people.com/royals/princess-charlene-tough-cookie-not-a-shrinking-violet-says-friend/And another bit from Chantelle. Yeah, she has been such a hands on mom with 2 nannies always taking care of them while she was hanging out on some oligarchs yacht or villa in Turkey etc. Using the kids as an excuse for not doing her job, is pathetic. The kids secured her a lifelong income and allowed your lot to fleece her foundation off funds and use them for vacation in Bodrum and Courchevel, Dubai and other places. The heirs were part of the deal and without heirs she would have received her marching orders years ago. And btw she does not have to leave her kids. Other Grimaldis have been divorced and kept in the lives of their kids. Not just Caros and Stephs babyfathers, already Rainier and Antoinettes father. She just couldn't move them to SA. people.com/royals/princess-charlene-protector-of-monaco-heirs/Rofl here they are actually claiming that they have been together for 20 years. NO they have not. I think Tasha and Nicole are not the only ones to vouch to that. And yes of course she doesn't want anyone to think that she is not only a failure as a mom, but also the proverbial stepmom. Sorry, but we know that if she had done what they claim, both kids would have been invited to plenty of events. Like the wedding for one thing. Beatrice had no problems with her stepson being there. Front and center. We know that none of Alberts children were there. Albert himself said that she wasn't exceptant. So no she did not pull the family together ( I don't even think there are pics of her and the kids together), if anyone it was Stephanie and her kids. And interestingly it is mentioned that she has issues and has not been accessible the past few months. That IMO is pretty damning to state that. Looks to me that someone is building up to sth, in case it does come to a break up. people.com/royals/princess-charlene-has-tried-to-pull-prince-albert-whole-family-together/
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Post by agentf on Sept 10, 2021 15:04:14 GMT -5
She doesn't begin to assume position let alone be able to assert it 🙄. That's what people have a hard time with, and she behaves as if she's passed the job description already when clearly she never grasped it or mastered it like Kate - who btw is a future Queen, not a SAS, or like Grace who's still the standard for Monaco. Follow her passion(s?) is woke-speak for taking up space without accounting for it or producing anything towards the well-being of anyone but herself. She's in her 40s and still talking of being her own person, and there still is no real definition of who that is. Don't drag Kate or Grace into this. It's preposterous. And presumptuous. www.google.com/amp/s/www.gala.de/amp/royals/monaco/fuerstin-charl%25C3%25A8ne--freundin-verraet--so-tickt-sie-wirklich-22505774.html1) Different lifes start with different PR-teams. A "female friend" of Charlene tells the press that she seems fragile but is so much stronger... 2) " Charlene does not want to be Grace but also not Kate. That's why she does not always meet the expectations of others towards a person in her position. She just follows her passions. Like eaching children to swim and saving rhinos." ... they mix strong with egoistic. And yes she is living her passions regardless on her children, Albert and his family, the monegasques and MC. That is immature - not passionate.
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Post by margarita on Sept 11, 2021 1:48:59 GMT -5
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