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Post by agentf on Sept 11, 2021 5:24:05 GMT -5
Oh the counter-propaganda 🙄 It's like Albert in People magazine. Still they're jockeying for nice guy position. Going back to CC not wanting to be Grace (20 operations later to try to look Hitchcockian), a man who deifies his mother usually has a loaded conscience and mother provides cover. Case in point: my rotten brother who wedged himself (everywhere) but between me and my mom and who screamed murder to everyone when she and I disagreed. She took that as love. Meanwhile the last time I saw my mom, a day after she'd been up and walking to me down a hospital corridor, he told me over her head that he was having her declared invalid. His rottenness surfaced. I could feel her heart sink to her heels. I could go on about his fake devotion. So if this SA spat is about her not wanting to be Grace, it certainly took a lot of time and many hospital trips to figure that out. They need therapy.
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Post by paca on Sept 11, 2021 5:44:28 GMT -5
Yeah, chantell is doing push back PR. And she herself doesn't like to be called dumb and uneducated. But the Wittstocks are, otherwise they would have listed their education somewhere. They are not qualified for any of the jobs or positions they are holding and Charlene is the epitome of this. No education, no clue about what her role is and couldn't be bothered to learn the language or culture of the country her son is supposed to rule one day. If he ends up as ignorant as her, then MC will really have a problem.
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Post by paca on Sept 11, 2021 6:18:45 GMT -5
Oh the counter-propaganda 🙄 It's like Albert in People magazine. Still they're jockeying for nice guy position. Going back to CC not wanting to be Grace (20 operations later to try to look Hitchcockian), a man who deifies his mother usually has a loaded conscience and mother provides cover. Case in point: my rotten brother who wedged himself (everywhere) but between me and my mom and who screamed murder to everyone when she and I disagreed. She took that as love. Meanwhile the last time I saw my mom, a day after she'd been up and walking to me down a hospital corridor, he told me over her head that he was having her declared invalid. His rottenness surfaced. I could feel her heart sink to her heels. I could go on about his fake devotion. So if this SA spat is about her not wanting to be Grace, it certainly took a lot of time and many hospital trips to figure that out. They need therapy. LOL yes they do and he decided that Grace was the selling point for MC, which it wasn't. If Charlene wanted to be her own person, than why all those surgeries. All that pain. She seems to have come addicted to pain. That giant tatoo? If she wanted to be perceived as her own person, she wouldn't have married a guy who only proposed after she had breast implants, several sets of veneers (remember those chicklets in her first round?), a nose job, fillers, lipcorrection, a facelift (thx to her haircut the scars were visible) and plenty of botox. If you have to become Frankensteins bride to get a marriage proposal, you are anything but your own person. You are his creation. If she was her own person, she would get reverse surgery, get her face back as much as possible and get a dentist that gives her teeth she can actually speak with. Not that she has much to say. That drivel in her video is nothing. No one knows why she wants suddenly those rhinos protected. It is not sth new, so she could have done that 10 years ago. Why now? What was the point that initiated her wanting to campaign? there is nothing there, she can't find words for it. She is that empty and void of anything. And that is because she never bothered to learn. It is her main achilles heal and it will get worse once her children will ask, why they should learn and go to school, when their mother didn't find it necessary. Ever. I know that when you are constantly among people who are better educated, they regret not having that education. And often they are trying to make up for it, if given the chance. But not so Charlene. She was given French classes, but didn't turn up. She could have had private tuiton on all things MC and thensome, but she didn't. As a woman of her time she concentrated on what was visible. And easier. Painful, yes, but she knew that from her sport. A short cut yes, but as someone used to doping even pre puberty (hence her male looks before surgery and her problems to conceive), she knew that from her sport too. And we know that swimming is with cycling one of the worst doping sports. She is lazy. And that is the real reason, why she is so unfit. If she really saw herself as a protector of her children, she wouldn't constantly go on vacation and leave her kids with the nannies. I think that if she really was a hands on mom, she would have more respect from her people. Because they would see her, being there for her kids. But they don't. She is not doing her job, nor is she looking after her children. She is splashing Alberts money and cruising with oligarchs. And she is fleecing money to her family so they don't have to work. She is buying their "love". And she wouldn't do it, if there was genuine love there. Yes, to the occasional invite, but not being the unique source of income for the entire family. And her family is the only one doing it. All other family members have always had their own income.
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Post by axelle on Sept 11, 2021 8:15:06 GMT -5
Great points! CW managed to do whatever she needed to do to get him to marry her. That's it she has never really achieved much. Her family is a bunch of clingers and that is about it as they have shown over the decade. The funny thing is you can keep up the charade until there is a crisis. Then it busts it wide open. PA and Chantall both are scrambling to work on damage control. And it is not convincing.
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Post by paca on Sept 11, 2021 8:30:47 GMT -5
so this is the official palace line... for now. www.monacomatin.mc/people/le-prince-albert-ii-de-monaco-donne-des-nouvelles-de-la-princesse-charlene-713288 They are downplaying her health issues, especially that breakdown. Interestingly,first CHantell hyped it up and blew matters out of proportion, now she is backpeddling too (which IMO means that she was told off by palace PR). She still continues her own bit, by desperately trying to make Charlene look better than she is. She also seems to have realized that it is not in the trashstocks interest to make Albert look bad. Maybe they have been promissed sth or are hoping for sth, when their gravy train leaves their quarters. Anyways IMO the palace wants to avoid for Albert to look bad, contemplating divorce, while his wife is ill. For now I think he just wants her back in MC. It is easier for him to negotiate there and he has more control over her. He wouldn't have flown for a photo op to SA, if a divorce was imminent. I am not expecting it before 2022 or even 2023. I do think though that she will be given a last chance to pull herself together and do the job properly. I think Albert realized, that with his job and the frequent travelling, the kids will suffer. They are too small to be sent to boarding school (rainier and antoinette were sent away after their parents divorced and Rainier suffered). So my guess is that she will be sticking around for another 5 years or so. Unless they decide to divorce in the near future and she gets set up nearby for easy access. IMO for her that would be the best solution as she would no longer have to do what she so obviously hates to do and she is still young enough to reconstruct her live. In 10 years the kids will not need her that much any more. And now they are in school all day, except Wednesdays. So basically she just needs to supervise their spare time activities. I don't think that she will be supervising their homework... I guess they will get someone in for that. But it is only a few more years she can hide behind the kids. So she would be well advised to envision what her life should be like 20 years from now.
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Post by paca on Sept 11, 2021 8:55:28 GMT -5
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Post by paca on Sept 11, 2021 9:08:50 GMT -5
A report from her foundation in 2020 and we have a number of how much money the foundation spent on projects. What is left out is how much it spent on staff, specifically on the Wittstocks and how much Chantells company was given. www.hellomonaco.com/news/latest-news/princess-charlene-foundation-shares-its-2020-annual-report/There are no numbers in the report about the funds received either. IMO that is a highly unprofessional report for an NGO. They have to publish their spending on staff etc as well. I am sure that their income was 10 times as much as they spent on their actual cause. this report stinks IMO
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Post by agentf on Sept 11, 2021 9:58:16 GMT -5
Great sleuthing 👌🏼 Isn't it why foundations register in Monaco though? For not having to be overly compliant? A report from her foundation in 2020 and we have a number of how much money the foundation spent on projects. What is left out is how much it spent on staff, specifically on the Wittstocks and how much Chantells company was given. www.hellomonaco.com/news/latest-news/princess-charlene-foundation-shares-its-2020-annual-report/There are no numbers in the report about the funds received either. IMO that is a highly unprofessional report for an NGO. They have to publish their spending on staff etc as well. I am sure that their income was 10 times as much as they spent on their actual cause. this report stinks IMO
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Post by paca on Sept 11, 2021 10:21:12 GMT -5
they do have to file reports and they are being checked. The problem lies with the ones linked to the Grimaldis. There is a real conflict of interest there. Thats why I keep saying they are all dodgy. What Charles aide is being accused of his common practice in MC. If you want citizenship, you are discretly pointed to one of their charities to speed up the process and possibly overlook certain things. Like Phil green actually living and working in London and only his wife staying in MC. She is btw on the board of Charlenes foundation. The worst crook on the board of her foundation. A woman that robbed pensioners of their livelihoods so she can have a yacht in MC? Really. Her presence on the board alone spells misconduct and greed. And I bet she pointed the trashstocks to how to fleece the foundation of funds. She is from SA and she is just as uneducated as them. And btw so is her daughter despite all that money they stole.
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Post by axelle on Sept 11, 2021 11:41:42 GMT -5
I agree this is seriously dodgy!!! Of course they left out the staff and admin costs. Might make some people mad. Here's the report - they have done a lot of good things but I don't see a cost breakdown sheet anywhere: www.fondationprincessecharlene.mc/docs_site/fpcm-rapportactivites-2020-web.pdfI mean if you sum up all the things we've gone over here - the foundation, the brother's failed businesses, what positive has come out of this other than the children? Looking at the long haul. And those comments that CW didn't want to be like Grace or Kate Middleton are really stupid. CW has actually met Kate Middleton and that was a really dim not very well thought out thing to say.
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Post by paca on Sept 11, 2021 12:17:49 GMT -5
Kate is a well educated woman with a number of genuine interests. I am sure it won't be difficult for her to excel in small talk. She also has impacable manners. As do her kids. You would never see Kate allowing her children to act out like Gabriella. And still they are behaving like normal children even in the public eye and we could witness Kates parenting when Charlotte or George were testing their parents. Kate is the exact opposite of Charlene. And of course she would feel intimidated by kate. They have the same job (though Kates is way bigger and even more public) and we have onewho is always pristine, capable and smiling. Also actively listening to the people she meets. Plus she is a mother of 3, manages to be hands on and with only one very capable nanny. So in direct comparisson she is even more of a failure. It is baffling that Chantell would even draw that comparisson. I get the Grace thing and find that disturbing, especially since we are talking about woman from different eras and different values. But Kate and Charlene are from the same age group. I think the only thing I can say in Charlenes defence is that she grew up during apartheid. That explains her lack of empathy for refugees and her use of Blackfacing, but it also explains that she and the trashstocks think that the mere fact that they are white makes them superior beings and entitled. BTW I noticed that her brothers resemble more and more her boorish father. I remember that commentators were making fun of him walking her down the that carpet. I also found a pic of her great parenting, with Jaques about to stick his finger up his nose. It was shot in plain view of the audience her brother was there as was Mike Powers. It was at a charity event in Cagnes sur mer. (you need to scroll and see Charlen with her son and brother) www.hellomonaco.com/news/latest-news/the-monaco-sculptures-project-pushes-bidders-to-break-artcurials-sales-records-and-other-monaco-news/and here is the article withmore pics. She pays no attentin to her child, no eye contact or interaction other then being decorative. Personally I don't see a point of him being there. www.hellomonaco.com/news/latest-news/monacos-princess-charlene-and-prince-jacques-trot-over-to-the-hippodrome-at-cagnes-sur-mer-for-charity/
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Post by paca on Sept 11, 2021 12:20:34 GMT -5
I agree this is seriously dodgy!!! Of course they left out the staff and admin costs. Might make some people mad. Here's the report - they have done a lot of good things but I don't see a cost breakdown sheet anywhere: www.fondationprincessecharlene.mc/docs_site/fpcm-rapportactivites-2020-web.pdfI mean if you sum up all the things we've gone over here - the foundation, the brother's failed businesses, what positive has come out of this other than the children? Looking at the long haul. And those comments that CW didn't want to be like Grace or Kate Middleton are really stupid. CW has actually met Kate Middleton and that was a really dim not very well thought out thing to say. I saw that report, but didn't bother posting. It is not a proper report its fawning over own achievements. It is a marketing brochure with bad pictures of those involved.
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Post by margarita on Sept 12, 2021 7:01:29 GMT -5
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Post by axelle on Sept 12, 2021 10:28:24 GMT -5
Dumb gets dumber!! No words!!
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Post by agentf on Sept 12, 2021 14:04:11 GMT -5
Dare we ask? 😄 Dumb gets dumber!! No words!!
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Post by paca on Sept 14, 2021 3:23:30 GMT -5
no news, just an update on her rhinos. She has a donation goal of $500000 till March; so far, with all the publicity, she has collected..... $1890. That is how much of an asset she is and how much she draws people in for her causes. Maybe that is the reason why they don't publish numbers and she wants those other NGOs. Maybe those numbers would show, that without forcing people to pay (as in cash for citizenship) there wouldn't be any income. How much money did their Corsica stint make? and how much came from Albert and people he made pay? Anyways, people do not donate to her and in local media, the don't bother to comment. Very telling.
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Post by axelle on Sept 14, 2021 6:59:14 GMT -5
no news, just an update on her rhinos. She has a donation goal of $500000 till March; so far, with all the publicity, she has collected..... $1890. That is how much of an asset she is and how much she draws people in for her causes. Maybe that is the reason why they don't publish numbers and she wants those other NGOs. Maybe those numbers would show, that without forcing people to pay (as in cash for citizenship) there wouldn't be any income. How much money did their Corsica stint make? and how much came from Albert and people he made pay? Anyways, people do not donate to her and in local media, the don't bother to comment. Very telling. Rude awakening!
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Post by paca on Sept 14, 2021 7:15:37 GMT -5
Actually I think it was the same amount when I first looked at the site. So all that publicity, blackfacing etc., has given them not a single dime. Not even on the pitty train. Especially when you have half a million as a goal and after campagning for several months, you are still no further. Doesn't she have any friends or acquaintances willing to donate? This looks like a sum you would put in yourself to get things started. Usually when media reports about bloggers with a funding page, you tend to see more cash coming in. But here it is nothing. Not even Brigitte Bardot praises her cause, which in itself is surprising. It just goes to show that she has no clue about how to get things done. She thinks setting up a website, putting some crazy pics on it and rambling videos would do the trick. She needs to get others publicly to support her cause, have friends post their support etc. But I haven't seen her trending on social media. Or elsewhere.
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Post by agentf on Sept 14, 2021 15:42:11 GMT -5
I loved it when I saw that Jean-Paul Belmondo had been a donor to Brigitte Bardot's foundation and even adopted a pet from her. And yes, you'd imagine a first donation by her. I find that merchandising goes a long way, especially those cute string bracelets. I got one with a donation to a koala cause and I loved it. T-shirts, with hopefully a motto you can live it, is another way (though it didn't work for 40x40...) I still think, given her past associations, that her involvement errs more on the side of a fox in the hen house. I'd go with Uma. Actually I think it was the same amount when I first looked at the site. So all that publicity, blackfacing etc., has given them not a single dime. Not even on the pitty train. Especially when you have half a million as a goal and after campagning for several months, you are still no further. Doesn't she have any friends or acquaintances willing to donate? This looks like a sum you would put in yourself to get things started. Usually when media reports about bloggers with a funding page, you tend to see more cash coming in. But here it is nothing. Not even Brigitte Bardot praises her cause, which in itself is surprising. It just goes to show that she has no clue about how to get things done. She thinks setting up a website, putting some crazy pics on it and rambling videos would do the trick. She needs to get others publicly to support her cause, have friends post their support etc. But I haven't seen her trending on social media. Or elsewhere.
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Post by paca on Sept 14, 2021 16:07:33 GMT -5
Well, Albert has a t shirt. As an aside George Clooney wore his casamigos shirt everywhere all the time, and they sold the company for a billion. Then again he was credible as a boozer. But yeah, I didn't see merchandise, didn't look either though. You need to order those things and with their luck they'd get stuck in a container on Suez.... But what you do as a celebrity campaigner is that you do get other celebrities on board. Bardot had support from all major French stars of her generation and also young ones, who just started out in their career. Delon is another big name and known friend. Sadly I can't share their racist political views, which IMO hurt her foundation. You can't ask people to care for pets more then for drowning kids in the med, just down the road from her. Her lack of empathy for human hurts her cause IMO. As much as I care for my pets, but I always drew the line between my kids and my pets and the amount of money to be spent on them. Well almost always, but it wasn't my pet, but my kids pet. So difficult decision.
Anyways, they are not doing it properly and aren't willing to work hard. They think a website and slapping the name on it is enough. Well it isn't as the donations show.
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